Topic: I’m not sure if I agree with the idea of IQ
Mr. Bloody Lemonade !0JqexkOGBc started this discussion 3 weeks ago #137,903
There’s this idea that if you have an above average IQ that means you’re smart. I’ve been thinking about it, the average person isn’t really smart. I’m not convinced that being above average in terms of intelligence means a whole lot anymore. I’ve never met anyone I felt like was a genius that’s incomprehensibly intelligent and I’m starting to doubt if they exist.
Mr. Bloody Lemonade !0JqexkOGBc (OP) double-posted this 3 weeks ago, 1 minute later[^] [v] #1,459,483
Or not that I disagree with the idea of IQ, it’s more than I disagree with the idea of the idea of IQ. The idea that you can measure intelligence as one number is one thing, but the idea that based on that one number, that means some people are super smart, those are two different ideas, one is an idea and another is an idea about an idea. The idea about the idea is less formal it’s more of a cultural idea that there’s such a thing as a genius who’s smarter than everybody else by nature. What if that isn’t actually real?
Anonymous B joined in and replied with this 3 weeks ago, 17 seconds later, 2 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #1,459,484
IQ tests are biased towards white Europeans.
Mr. Bloody Lemonade !0JqexkOGBc (OP) replied with this 3 weeks ago, 2 minutes later, 4 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #1,459,485
@previous (B)
Yeah. I mean it makes sense, white Europeans came up with IQ tests, it kinda makes sense the people who came up with a test would score higher on it by default. It would be pretty weird if that wasn’t the case. If a teacher for example came up with a test their students performed better on than they did, you’d kinda wonder about that teacher.
Yeah. I mean it makes sense, white Europeans came up with IQ tests, it kinda makes sense the people who came up with a test would score higher on it by default. It would be pretty weird if that wasn’t the case. If a teacher for example came up with a test their students performed better on than they did, you’d kinda wonder about that teacher.
Mr. Bloody Lemonade !0JqexkOGBc (OP) double-posted this 3 weeks ago, 2 minutes later, 6 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #1,459,487
I also don’t think you can reduce intelligence down to one number, because everybody knows some people are good at liberal arts and bad at math or vice versa. If you just imagine that as a vector with two dimensions <liberal arts, math> then <1, 0> and <0, 1> both have the same magnitude but they don’t point in the same direction so they’re not the same. It’s kinda dumb to even think you could turn intelligence into one number without losing information. I guess that’s not the part I was thinking about though. I’m not sure if geniuses actually exist.
Mr. Bloody Lemonade !0JqexkOGBc (OP) triple-posted this 3 weeks ago, 3 minutes later, 9 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #1,459,488
Because I guess, for example, people who discovered things are considered geniuses. But, the act of looking and the luck of finding something seems unrelated. If two scientists study two different subjects and one of the two happens to discover something through their research, that doesn’t inherently make them smarter, it just means by chance they looked in the right place at the right time.
Anonymous C joined in and replied with this 3 weeks ago, 11 minutes later, 20 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #1,459,489
I won’t say who because I don’t want anybody to try and figure out where I was. But I went to some talk by someone who invented something that was important in the development of the internet, and when people asked him questions about other stuff, he seemed incredibly average in terms of his knowledge about everything else. Idk. I was just thinking about that. Inventing something that billions of people have used doesn’t make you a genius and you can invent something billions of people use without giving off genius vibes.
Anonymous D joined in and replied with this 3 weeks ago, 15 minutes later, 36 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #1,459,490
He’s also a millionaire, but like, if I saw him on the street and talked to him I’d never guess he invented what he invented. He’s just like a regular average dude.
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Anonymous E joined in and replied with this 3 weeks ago, 1 minute later, 37 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #1,459,491
But he was just so casually like "oh back when I was trying to sell this to Steve Jobs…"
boof joined in and replied with this 3 weeks ago, 19 minutes later, 57 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #1,459,495
The original development of IQ was for the purpose of prediction of future school marks. It was found to be second best for that purpose, the first being past school marks. Perhaps it is more useful to have separate tests for different very specific mental capacities.
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Anonymous I joined in and replied with this 2 weeks ago, 14 hours later, 19 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,459,645
@OPenis
people do have a tendency to not like things they are bad at; like i suck balls at rhythm games and so na.turally i dont like rhythm games. Its the same as you- you have a low IQ score so naturally your notgoing to like IQ.
But i dont really hate rythmn games i just accept that they exist, and ultimately your just gonna have to accept that IQ is the best thing we have at measuring intelligence and that it does do a fairly good job of doing so despite its problems.
people do have a tendency to not like things they are bad at; like i suck balls at rhythm games and so na.turally i dont like rhythm games. Its the same as you- you have a low IQ score so naturally your notgoing to like IQ.
But i dont really hate rythmn games i just accept that they exist, and ultimately your just gonna have to accept that IQ is the best thing we have at measuring intelligence and that it does do a fairly good job of doing so despite its problems.
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Mr. Bloody Lemonade !0JqexkOGBc triple-posted this 2 weeks ago, 1 minute later, 23 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,459,685
@1,459,683 (Mr. Bloody Lemonade !0JqexkOGBc)
I did it in a weird way but every possible value of x and y for a 2d vector with those functions as values that isn’t undefined should be a circle.
I did it in a weird way but every possible value of x and y for a 2d vector with those functions as values that isn’t undefined should be a circle.
Mr. Bloody Lemonade !0JqexkOGBc quadruple-posted this 2 weeks ago, 1 minute later, 23 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,459,686
Maybe…
Unless it’s this now that I think about it because x and y aren’t independent from each other.
<x, (+/-)sqrt(1-x^2)>
Now that I think about it, this one makes more sense, because the other one just assumes you can pair x and y values however you want but you can’t.
Unless it’s this now that I think about it because x and y aren’t independent from each other.
<x, (+/-)sqrt(1-x^2)>
Now that I think about it, this one makes more sense, because the other one just assumes you can pair x and y values however you want but you can’t.
Mr. Bloody Lemonade !0JqexkOGBc quintuple-posted this 2 weeks ago, 37 seconds later, 23 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,459,687
…yeah it’s definitely the second way not the first.
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*sips*