Topic: Mind the gap!
Anonymous A started this discussion 2 years ago #115,861
Here's a fun game we can play. Let's find the last point in time in which Kook made a transphobic comment and our first evidence of her being married to a trans woman. So far the gap is a mere 2.7 years! I bet we can get it down much lower because I only spent a few minutes searching for these.
Another fun one would be the gap between Kook discovering Brie's newfound wealth and their marriage. This one may be a little harder to see evidence of in public MC posts, but anecdotes are welcome as well.
Here's what I've got for the transphobic - marriage gap:
8 august 2019
> A wife will be married to her husband for ten years, he will come out as being trans and the wife will be like I'm a lesbian! Bitch no you're not
https://minichan.net/topic/89958#reply_1025803
8 august 2019 (same thread as above)
> >lol so why not just stay male to begin with?
> Because they get off by dressing as a woman and having other woman acknowledge them as such
30 april 2022
> It was crazy! I watched it with my wife and friend when I was in the hospital
https://minichan.net/topic/103602#reply_1169281
Another fun one would be the gap between Kook discovering Brie's newfound wealth and their marriage. This one may be a little harder to see evidence of in public MC posts, but anecdotes are welcome as well.
Here's what I've got for the transphobic - marriage gap:
8 august 2019
> A wife will be married to her husband for ten years, he will come out as being trans and the wife will be like I'm a lesbian! Bitch no you're not
https://minichan.net/topic/89958#reply_1025803
8 august 2019 (same thread as above)
> >lol so why not just stay male to begin with?
> Because they get off by dressing as a woman and having other woman acknowledge them as such
30 april 2022
> It was crazy! I watched it with my wife and friend when I was in the hospital
https://minichan.net/topic/103602#reply_1169281
Anonymous B joined in and replied with this 2 years ago, 2 minutes later[^] [v] #1,280,027
Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 2 years ago, 10 minutes later, 12 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #1,280,028
I hadn't actually read the first thread in full when I posted the OP. Now that I have, let me say that there's some pretty wild quotes by Kook in there. Fun read.
Anonymous B replied with this 2 years ago, 8 minutes later, 21 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #1,280,029
Kook !!rcSrAtaAC joined in and replied with this 2 years ago, 3 minutes later, 25 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #1,280,030
I cannot change my past. All I can do now is be a kind person who shows her wife daily all the love and respect that she deserves
We are compatible, we enjoy being around each other, our family approves of the relationship, and we plan on continuing this union in perpetuity
No amount of bitterness or stalkerish behavior can split us. We are both painfully aware of our pasts and discuss them regularly and we are stronger for it. Your meddling will change nothing
We are compatible, we enjoy being around each other, our family approves of the relationship, and we plan on continuing this union in perpetuity
No amount of bitterness or stalkerish behavior can split us. We are both painfully aware of our pasts and discuss them regularly and we are stronger for it. Your meddling will change nothing
(Edited 2 minutes later.)
Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 2 years ago, 2 minutes later, 27 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #1,280,031
@1,280,029 (B)
"It must be a living nightmare" [1]
-Kook referring to women that are married to MTF trans women
8 august, 2019
"It must be a living nightmare" [1]
-Kook referring to women that are married to MTF trans women
8 august, 2019
Anonymous B replied with this 2 years ago, 41 seconds later, 28 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #1,280,032
Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 2 years ago, 2 minutes later, 30 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #1,280,033
@1,280,030 (Kook !!rcSrAtaAC)
I hope you are showing her the respect she deserves, and I hope her to you.
Having said that, can you help us close in the gap here? You're the perfect person to help with this.
Also what of the second gap I mentioned in the op? Approximately or precisely how large was that one?
I hope you are showing her the respect she deserves, and I hope her to you.
Having said that, can you help us close in the gap here? You're the perfect person to help with this.
Also what of the second gap I mentioned in the op? Approximately or precisely how large was that one?
(Edited 1 minute later.)
Kook !!rcSrAtaAC replied with this 2 years ago, 1 minute later, 32 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #1,280,034
@previous (A)
You don't hope that and it's obvious
Your isolation isn't my fault nor is your poverty.
There is absolutely nothing you can say that will negatively change my life or marriage
You don't hope that and it's obvious
Your isolation isn't my fault nor is your poverty.
There is absolutely nothing you can say that will negatively change my life or marriage
Anonymous D joined in and replied with this 2 years ago, 1 minute later, 33 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #1,280,035
@1,280,031 (A)
In the context of a thread about women who married men who hid they were AGP from their wives for decades who then suddenly "come out as trans" in a mid-life crisis. Do you think that wouldn't be a challenging time for those women?
In the context of a thread about women who married men who hid they were AGP from their wives for decades who then suddenly "come out as trans" in a mid-life crisis. Do you think that wouldn't be a challenging time for those women?
Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 2 years ago, 2 minutes later, 36 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #1,280,036
@1,280,034 (Kook !!rcSrAtaAC)
You're making a whole lot of assumptions here and none of them are correct.
Please share with us your story about these gaps and when and how they were closed. It's touching and inspiring how quickly you've made such drastic changes in world view. I don't think I've seen anything like it before. It happened all so quickly and that gives me hope many others here and elsewhere can change for the better and to love all humans no matter who they are.
You're making a whole lot of assumptions here and none of them are correct.
Please share with us your story about these gaps and when and how they were closed. It's touching and inspiring how quickly you've made such drastic changes in world view. I don't think I've seen anything like it before. It happened all so quickly and that gives me hope many others here and elsewhere can change for the better and to love all humans no matter who they are.
Anonymous A (OP) double-posted this 2 years ago, 1 minute later, 37 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #1,280,038
@1,280,035 (D)
What would be challenging about it? A woman loves another woman. What's the problem with that?
What would be challenging about it? A woman loves another woman. What's the problem with that?
Kook !!rcSrAtaAC replied with this 2 years ago, 38 seconds later, 38 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #1,280,040
Anonymous D replied with this 2 years ago, 24 seconds later, 38 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #1,280,041
Anonymous E joined in and replied with this 2 years ago, 1 minute later, 40 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #1,280,042
Kook isn't responsible for her own actions 2 years prior to her marriage.
You, @OP, are responsible for the actions of other white men, even those that lived generations before you.
You, @OP, are responsible for the actions of other white men, even those that lived generations before you.
Anonymous B replied with this 2 years ago, 1 minute later, 41 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #1,280,043
Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 2 years ago, 29 seconds later, 41 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #1,280,044
@1,280,040 (Kook !!rcSrAtaAC)
Once again, you're making a lot of assumptions here and none of them are correct.
Let's hear how these gaps were closed. This is your chance to help and touch many lives. I dare say it's your chance to create a legacy.
@1,280,041 (D)
No. Does everything that surprises you in life come from that bot?
Once again, you're making a lot of assumptions here and none of them are correct.
Let's hear how these gaps were closed. This is your chance to help and touch many lives. I dare say it's your chance to create a legacy.
@1,280,041 (D)
No. Does everything that surprises you in life come from that bot?
Kook !!rcSrAtaAC replied with this 2 years ago, 43 seconds later, 42 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #1,280,045
Kook !!rcSrAtaAC double-posted this 2 years ago, 1 minute later, 44 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #1,280,047
@1,280,044 (A)
No I'm not and no I won't
My full posting history is freely available for you to scavenge. Go for it
No I'm not and no I won't
My full posting history is freely available for you to scavenge. Go for it
Anonymous E replied with this 2 years ago, 11 seconds later, 44 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #1,280,048
@1,280,045 (Kook !!rcSrAtaAC)
Didn't claim to be a victim.
What made you veer from transphobe to married to a transwoman so fast? I'm sure Brie being a millionaire had nothing to do with it.
Didn't claim to be a victim.
What made you veer from transphobe to married to a transwoman so fast? I'm sure Brie being a millionaire had nothing to do with it.
(Edited 39 seconds later.)
Kook !!rcSrAtaAC replied with this 2 years ago, 40 seconds later, 45 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #1,280,049
Anonymous D replied with this 2 years ago, 20 seconds later, 45 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #1,280,050
Anonymous E replied with this 2 years ago, 9 seconds later, 45 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #1,280,051
Kook !!rcSrAtaAC replied with this 2 years ago, 1 minute later, 46 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #1,280,052
Anonymous D replied with this 2 years ago, 22 seconds later, 46 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #1,280,053
Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 2 years ago, 4 minutes later, 50 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #1,280,054
@1,280,047 (Kook !!rcSrAtaAC)
> My full posting history is freely available for you to scavenge. Go for it
Sure, maybe I or someone else here will.
What I'm most interested in hearing from you is HOW this transformation happened. For me, it is a mere curiosity, but for others it could be literally life changing. Every trans person deserves love and respect and unfortunately we live in a time where this is often not what they receive. You, being someone from "the other side", could speak to these people that hold hateful views and help them through to the side of empathy, understanding, and acceptance.
> My full posting history is freely available for you to scavenge. Go for it
Sure, maybe I or someone else here will.
What I'm most interested in hearing from you is HOW this transformation happened. For me, it is a mere curiosity, but for others it could be literally life changing. Every trans person deserves love and respect and unfortunately we live in a time where this is often not what they receive. You, being someone from "the other side", could speak to these people that hold hateful views and help them through to the side of empathy, understanding, and acceptance.
Anonymous E replied with this 2 years ago, 5 minutes later, 56 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #1,280,057
@1,280,052 (Kook !!rcSrAtaAC)
> Anonymous E (you) joined in and replied with this
joined in
My first post, and you've decided I'm always playing the victim, so please share how you came to that conclusion.
You are making a 180 in your beliefs just to cash in, and the playing the victim like you are now because you're called out on it.
> Anonymous E (you) joined in and replied with this
joined in
My first post, and you've decided I'm always playing the victim, so please share how you came to that conclusion.
You are making a 180 in your beliefs just to cash in, and the playing the victim like you are now because you're called out on it.
Anonymous E double-posted this 2 years ago, 1 minute later, 57 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #1,280,059
@1,280,054 (A)
Maybe more trans folx should be early investors in lucrative schemes.
If they can't do that, they don't deserve kook's respect apparently.
Maybe more trans folx should be early investors in lucrative schemes.
If they can't do that, they don't deserve kook's respect apparently.
Kook !!rcSrAtaAC replied with this 2 years ago, 2 minutes later, 59 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #1,280,060
Kook !!rcSrAtaAC double-posted this 2 years ago, 1 minute later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #1,280,061
@1,280,054 (A)
Use your free time as you choose
You aren't kind to my wife and you'll get no info about any of this from me
You dont deserve it
Use your free time as you choose
You aren't kind to my wife and you'll get no info about any of this from me
You dont deserve it
Anonymous D replied with this 2 years ago, 1 minute later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #1,280,062
@1,280,054 (A)
Why do you need to hear anything new from her? You've already come to your conclusions from reading some ancient forum posts.
Why do you need to hear anything new from her? You've already come to your conclusions from reading some ancient forum posts.
(Edited 1 minute later.)
Anonymous E replied with this 2 years ago, 4 minutes later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #1,280,063
@previous (D)
> Why do you need to hear anything new from her?
It's rhetorical.
The only answer is "cash changes minds", asking the question just proves kook can't even think up a second alternative explanation.
> Why do you need to hear anything new from her?
It's rhetorical.
The only answer is "cash changes minds", asking the question just proves kook can't even think up a second alternative explanation.
tteh !MemesToDNA joined in and replied with this 2 years ago, 11 seconds later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #1,280,064
Should we not afford people the opportunity to grow and change their opinions?
Anonymous E replied with this 2 years ago, 53 seconds later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #1,280,065
@previous (tteh !MemesToDNA)
Sure we can.
That doesn't mean we can't acknowledge the obvious, which is that humaniy's most popular motivator was involved in a rapid change of opinion.
Sure we can.
That doesn't mean we can't acknowledge the obvious, which is that humaniy's most popular motivator was involved in a rapid change of opinion.
(Edited 23 seconds later.)
Kook !!rcSrAtaAC replied with this 2 years ago, 1 minute later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #1,280,066
@previous (E)
Are you changing and growing when you whine about being oppressed for being a white man?
Are you changing and growing when you whine about being oppressed for being a white man?
Anonymous E replied with this 2 years ago, 1 minute later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #1,280,067
@previous (Kook !!rcSrAtaAC)
I value consistency. Why should I change that?
Change should be meaningful. Removing bad habits and principles, and adopting better ones.
Double standards aren't something that should be accepted.
I value consistency. Why should I change that?
Change should be meaningful. Removing bad habits and principles, and adopting better ones.
Double standards aren't something that should be accepted.
Kook !!rcSrAtaAC replied with this 2 years ago, 58 seconds later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #1,280,068
Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 2 years ago, 2 minutes later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #1,280,069
@1,280,061 (Kook !!rcSrAtaAC)
> Use your free time as you choose
Will do. Thanks for your permission!
> You aren't kind to my wife and you'll get no info about any of this from me
Where? When? Does Brie even post here anymore? I have no idea when I've last interacted with her. Could've been over 10 years ago for all I know, I can't remember any specific examples off the top of my head. It's weird that you seem to, since you've already made many other incorrect assumptions about me, but ok.
Regardless of who I am or am not, this really has nothing to do with me and has everything to do with you. This is your opportunity to help others and I don't know of anyone else - I'm not sure if there even is anyone else - as qualified as you to do it in the way that I know you could.
> Use your free time as you choose
Will do. Thanks for your permission!
> You aren't kind to my wife and you'll get no info about any of this from me
Where? When? Does Brie even post here anymore? I have no idea when I've last interacted with her. Could've been over 10 years ago for all I know, I can't remember any specific examples off the top of my head. It's weird that you seem to, since you've already made many other incorrect assumptions about me, but ok.
Regardless of who I am or am not, this really has nothing to do with me and has everything to do with you. This is your opportunity to help others and I don't know of anyone else - I'm not sure if there even is anyone else - as qualified as you to do it in the way that I know you could.
Anonymous E replied with this 2 years ago, 4 seconds later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #1,280,070
Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 2 years ago, 2 minutes later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #1,280,071
@1,280,064 (tteh !MemesToDNA)
Clearly we should. We should also encourage those that have to help those that should. I don't know why that's such a contentious issue for kook.
Clearly we should. We should also encourage those that have to help those that should. I don't know why that's such a contentious issue for kook.
Anonymous B replied with this 2 years ago, 23 seconds later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #1,280,072
Kook !!rcSrAtaAC replied with this 2 years ago, 27 seconds later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #1,280,073
@1,280,069 (A)
You don't have to directly interact with her. Lobbing insults is enough
And yes, it has nothing to do with you. You can't change that
You don't have to directly interact with her. Lobbing insults is enough
And yes, it has nothing to do with you. You can't change that
(Edited 35 seconds later.)
Kook !!rcSrAtaAC double-posted this 2 years ago, 24 seconds later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #1,280,074
Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 2 years ago, 50 seconds later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #1,280,076
@1,280,062 (D)
What conclusions? That she's changed? Seems obvious that she has, hasn't it?
You were the one trying to "contextualize" what Kook was saying in that thread. Do you believe everything she said there can be so contextualized or do you find any of it objectionable? What? And why?
What conclusions? That she's changed? Seems obvious that she has, hasn't it?
You were the one trying to "contextualize" what Kook was saying in that thread. Do you believe everything she said there can be so contextualized or do you find any of it objectionable? What? And why?
(Edited 22 seconds later.)
Anonymous A (OP) double-posted this 2 years ago, 1 minute later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #1,280,077
@1,280,073 (Kook !!rcSrAtaAC)
> And yes, it has nothing to do with you. You can't change that
I'm glad. So how about getting on with the actual important part where you can help others?
> And yes, it has nothing to do with you. You can't change that
I'm glad. So how about getting on with the actual important part where you can help others?
Kook !!rcSrAtaAC replied with this 2 years ago, 3 minutes later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #1,280,079
@previous (A)
Help yourself
Get therapy, stop harassing people, stop insulting my wife while claiming to care about her. It's weird. It makes you look like a creepy weirdo
Help yourself
Get therapy, stop harassing people, stop insulting my wife while claiming to care about her. It's weird. It makes you look like a creepy weirdo
Anonymous D replied with this 2 years ago, 48 seconds later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #1,280,080
@1,280,076 (A)
It all does have a context, yes. Tearing it from the context and mischaracterizing it makes you a bad faith actor.
It all does have a context, yes. Tearing it from the context and mischaracterizing it makes you a bad faith actor.
Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 2 years ago, 1 minute later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #1,280,081
@1,280,079 (Kook !!rcSrAtaAC)
Let's try this again. We've already agreed this has nothing to do with me. So how about getting on with the actual important part where you help others that still hold the beliefs that you were fortunately able to abandon in just two and a half years.
Let's try this again. We've already agreed this has nothing to do with me. So how about getting on with the actual important part where you help others that still hold the beliefs that you were fortunately able to abandon in just two and a half years.
Kook !!rcSrAtaAC replied with this 2 years ago, 1 minute later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #1,280,082
@previous (A)
I don't need to give any info to someone who insults me and my wife
I dont care if you change and I don't believe you can change. I don't think it's my job to help you change
I don't need to give any info to someone who insults me and my wife
I dont care if you change and I don't believe you can change. I don't think it's my job to help you change
Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 2 years ago, 5 seconds later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #1,280,083
@1,280,080 (D)
So, do many trans women
> get off by dressing as a woman and having other woman acknowledge them as such
https://minichan.net/topic/89958#reply_1025804
?
Please help me understand how this can be contextualized.
So, do many trans women
> get off by dressing as a woman and having other woman acknowledge them as such
https://minichan.net/topic/89958#reply_1025804
?
Please help me understand how this can be contextualized.
Anonymous G joined in and replied with this 2 years ago, 46 seconds later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #1,280,084
OP is a sad sack of shit and most likely a NIGGER
Anonymous D replied with this 2 years ago, 1 minute later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #1,280,085
@1,280,083 (A)
Doesn't sound like she's describing most trans people. You retard.
Doesn't sound like she's describing most trans people. You retard.
(Edited 1 minute later.)
Kook !!rcSrAtaAC replied with this 2 years ago, 59 seconds later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #1,280,086
Kook !!rcSrAtaAC double-posted this 2 years ago, 2 minutes later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #1,280,089
Also I talk to a few specific individuals from this forum about this, offsite
If you were worth my time or effort, we'd be doing the same
If you were worth my time or effort, we'd be doing the same
(Edited 15 seconds later.)
Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 2 years ago, 4 seconds later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #1,280,090
@1,280,082 (Kook !!rcSrAtaAC)
No idea why you keep trying to argue about what I do and don't believe... to me.
But, yes, I agree, helping other trans women is not your "job". Yes, trying to help people who hold the views you expressed just a few short years ago come to the realizations you've apparently come to is also not your job, but I don't think it's asking so much from you to do so. You spend countless hours here with people that hold views that are indistinguishable from what yours were. I can't for the life of me understand why you'd reject the opportunity to try to make the world a better place with little to no effort on your end.
No idea why you keep trying to argue about what I do and don't believe... to me.
But, yes, I agree, helping other trans women is not your "job". Yes, trying to help people who hold the views you expressed just a few short years ago come to the realizations you've apparently come to is also not your job, but I don't think it's asking so much from you to do so. You spend countless hours here with people that hold views that are indistinguishable from what yours were. I can't for the life of me understand why you'd reject the opportunity to try to make the world a better place with little to no effort on your end.
Kook !!rcSrAtaAC replied with this 2 years ago, 1 minute later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #1,280,091
@previous (A)
I'm not arguing. I know you're doing it
It makes me not want to tell you shit, and I wont
I'm not arguing. I know you're doing it
It makes me not want to tell you shit, and I wont
Anonymous E replied with this 2 years ago, 1 minute later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #1,280,093
@previous (Kook !!rcSrAtaAC)
If you're a bigot your whole life, except in the one scenario where you can profit, you're a bigot.
If you're a bigot your whole life, except in the one scenario where you can profit, you're a bigot.
(Edited 3 minutes later.)
Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 2 years ago, 19 seconds later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #1,280,094
@1,280,089 (Kook !!rcSrAtaAC)
If someone that said the things you were saying in the thread I linked were posting today, would they be worth your time? Why or why not?
Because there are several people like that posting today. Or they are all not worth your time? What is your time worth anyway?
If someone that said the things you were saying in the thread I linked were posting today, would they be worth your time? Why or why not?
Because there are several people like that posting today. Or they are all not worth your time? What is your time worth anyway?
Kook !!rcSrAtaAC replied with this 2 years ago, 55 seconds later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #1,280,096
Kook !!rcSrAtaAC double-posted this 2 years ago, 1 minute later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #1,280,097
@1,280,094 (A)
They might be if they were honest about it
I talk to multiple worthwhile people offsite who have changed for the better with time
They might be if they were honest about it
I talk to multiple worthwhile people offsite who have changed for the better with time
(Edited 7 seconds later.)
Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 2 years ago, 2 minutes later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #1,280,100
@previous (Kook !!rcSrAtaAC)
> They might be if they were honest about it
Were you?
> I talk to multiple worthwhile people offsite who have changed for the better with time
Thank you for that. But what of the many that still continue posting the exact views that you've since rejected?
> They might be if they were honest about it
Were you?
> I talk to multiple worthwhile people offsite who have changed for the better with time
Thank you for that. But what of the many that still continue posting the exact views that you've since rejected?
Anonymous D replied with this 2 years ago, 39 seconds later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #1,280,101
@1,280,093 (E)
It's almost like you're missing information because some of the people here have lives and relationships outside of the forum. Besides, the real action is in the DMs, sir.
It's almost like you're missing information because some of the people here have lives and relationships outside of the forum. Besides, the real action is in the DMs, sir.
(Edited 51 seconds later.)
Kook !!rcSrAtaAC replied with this 2 years ago, 20 seconds later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #1,280,102
Anonymous E replied with this 2 years ago, 45 seconds later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #1,280,103
Anonymous E double-posted this 2 years ago, 55 seconds later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #1,280,104
@1,280,102 (Kook !!rcSrAtaAC)
$5,000 could save an incel. You could save 20 incels if you convinced her to sell one of those cards.
$5,000 could save an incel. You could save 20 incels if you convinced her to sell one of those cards.
Anonymous D replied with this 2 years ago, 2 minutes later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #1,280,105
@1,280,103 (E)
I don't care about your DMs. The point is, you don't know what you don't know. You've got unknown unknowns all over the place.
I don't care about your DMs. The point is, you don't know what you don't know. You've got unknown unknowns all over the place.
Kook !!rcSrAtaAC replied with this 2 years ago, 15 seconds later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #1,280,106
Anonymous E replied with this 2 years ago, 1 minute later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #1,280,107
@1,280,105 (D)
There's level to this you aren't even aware of.
Posters that came and left when you weren't even here.
I partied with eco, and sucked sim's toes. Please don't play games with me.
There's level to this you aren't even aware of.
Posters that came and left when you weren't even here.
I partied with eco, and sucked sim's toes. Please don't play games with me.
Anonymous D replied with this 2 years ago, 4 minutes later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #1,280,108
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Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 2 years ago, 3 minutes later, 2 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,280,112
@1,280,101 (D)
You may've noticed some people ITT have asserted that Kook changed her views due to money. Since, you've expressed some knowledge and alternative ideas about how to interpret her views, perhaps you know of any easy way to refute those assertions?
One way I can think of is if there were any public statements (any at all) by Kook recanting her views or even expressing some semblance of neutrality towards trans women BEFORE either her marriage or discovery of Brie's wealth. If something like that were to be found, we could empathetically slam the door shut on these allegations. At the same time it'd give a lot more hope of helping others in coming around to having less bigoted views towards trans women.
You may've noticed some people ITT have asserted that Kook changed her views due to money. Since, you've expressed some knowledge and alternative ideas about how to interpret her views, perhaps you know of any easy way to refute those assertions?
One way I can think of is if there were any public statements (any at all) by Kook recanting her views or even expressing some semblance of neutrality towards trans women BEFORE either her marriage or discovery of Brie's wealth. If something like that were to be found, we could empathetically slam the door shut on these allegations. At the same time it'd give a lot more hope of helping others in coming around to having less bigoted views towards trans women.
Anonymous B replied with this 2 years ago, 2 minutes later, 2 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,280,113
Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 2 years ago, 3 minutes later, 2 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,280,114
@1,280,102 (Kook !!rcSrAtaAC)
What signs of honesty did you express back then that you do not see in the people here today?
If I understand this right, you are claiming that everyone here that expresses transphobic views is hopeless and beyond change? How long after changing your views did it take for you to form that conclusion?
Of the people that you are in contact with that are candidates for being convinced of a more enlightened point of view (not necessarily from here, but from any online or offline community) what types of arguments have you use to convince them? What types of arguments were what convinced you?
What signs of honesty did you express back then that you do not see in the people here today?
If I understand this right, you are claiming that everyone here that expresses transphobic views is hopeless and beyond change? How long after changing your views did it take for you to form that conclusion?
Of the people that you are in contact with that are candidates for being convinced of a more enlightened point of view (not necessarily from here, but from any online or offline community) what types of arguments have you use to convince them? What types of arguments were what convinced you?
Anonymous D replied with this 2 years ago, 1 minute later, 2 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,280,116
Anonymous E replied with this 2 years ago, 9 seconds later, 2 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,280,117
@1,280,112 (A)
If the price of bitcoin ever crashes kook is going to start talking about irreconcilable differences.
If the price of bitcoin ever crashes kook is going to start talking about irreconcilable differences.
Anonymous D replied with this 2 years ago, 5 minutes later, 2 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,280,118
Kook !!rcSrAtaAC replied with this 2 years ago, 16 seconds later, 2 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,280,119
Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 2 years ago, 2 minutes later, 2 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,280,120
@1,280,116 (D)
Strange comment to make.
Are there no instances of Kook publicly expressing normal, non-hateful views towards trans women before her discovery of Brie's wealth?
Why do you care about this anyway? Seems you don't care about helping convince others to have a more empathetic and loving view of trans women. So I don't get why you're in this thread at all.
Strange comment to make.
Are there no instances of Kook publicly expressing normal, non-hateful views towards trans women before her discovery of Brie's wealth?
Why do you care about this anyway? Seems you don't care about helping convince others to have a more empathetic and loving view of trans women. So I don't get why you're in this thread at all.
Anonymous A (OP) double-posted this 2 years ago, 26 seconds later, 2 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,280,123
Kook !!rcSrAtaAC replied with this 2 years ago, 20 seconds later, 2 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,280,124
@1,280,114 (A)
I had one on one conversations with people who weren't anonymous and weren't lying about insulting people. You're untrustworthy and not worth it for me
I had one on one conversations with people who weren't anonymous and weren't lying about insulting people. You're untrustworthy and not worth it for me
Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 2 years ago, 4 minutes later, 2 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,280,141
@previous (Kook !!rcSrAtaAC)
Again with the strange attempt to argue what my beliefs are or are not... to me.
So is Meta trustworthy and worth it to you?
What types of arguments have you used to convince people? What types of arguments convinced you?
Again with the strange attempt to argue what my beliefs are or are not... to me.
So is Meta trustworthy and worth it to you?
What types of arguments have you used to convince people? What types of arguments convinced you?
Anonymous D replied with this 2 years ago, 6 minutes later, 2 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,280,166
Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 2 years ago, 7 minutes later, 2 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,280,194
Anonymous E replied with this 2 years ago, 10 minutes later, 2 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,280,229
Anonymous H joined in and replied with this 2 years ago, 5 hours later, 8 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,280,265
Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 2 years ago, 15 hours later, 23 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,280,397
UPDATE: The gap between Kook's last transphobic comment and her knowledge of Brie's wealth? That comes out to be just under a year -- 340 days! Of course, it's possible this gap is smaller still. I've just casually searched, so perhaps more treasures await.
In July 2020, Matt asks Brie: "Now that you are wealthy, May I email you with a proposal?", to which Kook responds "leave Brie alone" [1].
16 days later, Kook says she's "crushing on Brie" [2].
Imagine: less than one year before, Kook was saying: [3]
> So many [MTF trans women] have stolen their sisters panties and masturbates while wearing them, and they talk like it was okay because it was "gender affirming"
along with several other completely wild claims and hateful beliefs.
But you know what's really wild? In the first thread I've linked in this post, Brie states that her "high self from 2010 set [herself] up for a windfall where [she] found a leftover stack of bitcæ almost a decade later" [1a]. So, "almost a decade later" from 2010. When would that be? 2019? 2018?
The gaps we are speaking of here, folks, is already down not to 1 or 2 years, but a matter of days.
I would say this is a cause for celebration! 🎉🥳 A nearly 40 year old woman from the deep South went from saying hateful transphobic comments online for years to a champion of trans rights in mere days! This makes me hopeful that literally anyone can be convinced to support trans women.
In July 2020, Matt asks Brie: "Now that you are wealthy, May I email you with a proposal?", to which Kook responds "leave Brie alone" [1].
16 days later, Kook says she's "crushing on Brie" [2].
Imagine: less than one year before, Kook was saying: [3]
> So many [MTF trans women] have stolen their sisters panties and masturbates while wearing them, and they talk like it was okay because it was "gender affirming"
along with several other completely wild claims and hateful beliefs.
But you know what's really wild? In the first thread I've linked in this post, Brie states that her "high self from 2010 set [herself] up for a windfall where [she] found a leftover stack of bitcæ almost a decade later" [1a]. So, "almost a decade later" from 2010. When would that be? 2019? 2018?
The gaps we are speaking of here, folks, is already down not to 1 or 2 years, but a matter of days.
I would say this is a cause for celebration! 🎉🥳 A nearly 40 year old woman from the deep South went from saying hateful transphobic comments online for years to a champion of trans rights in mere days! This makes me hopeful that literally anyone can be convinced to support trans women.
Anonymous D replied with this 2 years ago, 17 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #1,280,399
Kook !!rcSrAtaAC replied with this 2 years ago, 3 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #1,280,400
Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 2 years ago, 6 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #1,280,401
@1,280,399 (D)
I've never had a problem with trans women. But if I did and later came to realize that I do not have a problem with them and it took me years, not days, then, yes, I would be very jealous of Kook's breathtaking transformation.
I've never had a problem with trans women. But if I did and later came to realize that I do not have a problem with them and it took me years, not days, then, yes, I would be very jealous of Kook's breathtaking transformation.
Kook !!rcSrAtaAC replied with this 2 years ago, 1 minute later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #1,280,402
Anonymous D replied with this 2 years ago, 31 seconds later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #1,280,403
@1,280,401 (A)
Your entire argument hinges upon an entire demographic never having masturbated while wearing their sisters panties. You're making the claim that has never happened. The burden of proof is on you.
Your entire argument hinges upon an entire demographic never having masturbated while wearing their sisters panties. You're making the claim that has never happened. The burden of proof is on you.
(Edited 2 minutes later.)
Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 2 years ago, 1 minute later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #1,280,404
@1,280,402 (Kook !!rcSrAtaAC)
So, despite possibly setting a world record on the fastest 180 degree turn around humankind has ever seen in regards to trans rights, you have nothing at all to say about it and would rather know more about me? I have to say, that's a very very strange response.
So, despite possibly setting a world record on the fastest 180 degree turn around humankind has ever seen in regards to trans rights, you have nothing at all to say about it and would rather know more about me? I have to say, that's a very very strange response.
Anonymous A (OP) double-posted this 2 years ago, 2 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #1,280,405
@1,280,403 (D)
So there's nothing at all about Kook's comment that you find objectionable? Not only did you find nothing worth critiquing in that comment, you felt that it deserved defending? Why? What's your angle here?
So there's nothing at all about Kook's comment that you find objectionable? Not only did you find nothing worth critiquing in that comment, you felt that it deserved defending? Why? What's your angle here?
Kook !!rcSrAtaAC replied with this 2 years ago, 28 seconds later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #1,280,406
Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 2 years ago, 2 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #1,280,408
@previous (Kook !!rcSrAtaAC)
Nothing at all to say about how you had a complete breakthrough in your view of human sexuality, specifically with respect to trans women, in 340 days? Not as a teen, but as a woman in... what were you? Your late 30s?
Nothing at all to say about how you had a complete breakthrough in your view of human sexuality, specifically with respect to trans women, in 340 days? Not as a teen, but as a woman in... what were you? Your late 30s?
Anonymous D replied with this 2 years ago, 27 seconds later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #1,280,409
Kook !!rcSrAtaAC replied with this 2 years ago, 1 minute later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #1,280,410
Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 2 years ago, 35 seconds later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #1,280,411
@1,280,409 (D)
Why did you feel compelled to defend Kook's transphobic comments, not once, but two? Three times now?
Why did you feel compelled to defend Kook's transphobic comments, not once, but two? Three times now?
Anonymous D replied with this 2 years ago, 23 seconds later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #1,280,412
100Get
Kook !!rcSrAtaAC replied with this 2 years ago, 15 seconds later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #1,280,413
@1,280,408 (A)
Have you ever said sonething hateful about my wife here? It's an easy no if it's true
Have you ever said sonething hateful about my wife here? It's an easy no if it's true
Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 2 years ago, 1 minute later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #1,280,414
@1,280,410 (Kook !!rcSrAtaAC)
Why is it that you have nothing at all to say about this completely fantastic transformation? Why do you instead want to change the topic of discussion immediately?
Why is it that you have nothing at all to say about this completely fantastic transformation? Why do you instead want to change the topic of discussion immediately?
Anonymous D replied with this 2 years ago, 8 seconds later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #1,280,415
Kook !!rcSrAtaAC replied with this 2 years ago, 48 seconds later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #1,280,416
Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 2 years ago, 39 seconds later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #1,280,417
@1,280,415 (D)
Who are "real trans people"? Does someone need your blessing to be a "real trans" person?
Who are "real trans people"? Does someone need your blessing to be a "real trans" person?
Kook !!rcSrAtaAC replied with this 2 years ago, 42 seconds later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #1,280,418
Let's do this
Have a mod confirm you've made no transphobic comments and also confirm that you've never insulted my wife, and I'll answer some questions
Have a mod confirm you've made no transphobic comments and also confirm that you've never insulted my wife, and I'll answer some questions
Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 2 years ago, 20 seconds later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #1,280,419
@1,280,416 (Kook !!rcSrAtaAC)
Why do you want to instantly change the topic of conversation every time new details are added to the conversation?
Why do you want to instantly change the topic of conversation every time new details are added to the conversation?
Anonymous A (OP) double-posted this 2 years ago, 1 minute later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #1,280,420
@1,280,418 (Kook !!rcSrAtaAC)
You are really starting to sound desperate here. Why? This thread should be a happy occasion. Let's celebrate 🎉🥳 your quick change in worldview and welcome others to do so as well! 🥳
You are really starting to sound desperate here. Why? This thread should be a happy occasion. Let's celebrate 🎉🥳 your quick change in worldview and welcome others to do so as well! 🥳
Anonymous D replied with this 2 years ago, 18 seconds later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #1,280,421
Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 2 years ago, 2 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #1,280,423
@previous (D)
Hey, did you forget that you already made that comment? And I already responded? You're starting to sound pretty confused and are now going in circles. Take a rest and come back?
Hey, did you forget that you already made that comment? And I already responded? You're starting to sound pretty confused and are now going in circles. Take a rest and come back?
Kook !!rcSrAtaAC replied with this 2 years ago, 4 seconds later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #1,280,424
Kook !!rcSrAtaAC double-posted this 2 years ago, 58 seconds later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #1,280,426
Anonymous D replied with this 2 years ago, 1 minute later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #1,280,427
@1,280,423 (A)
You seem to be having a months-long mental health crisis that causes you lash out at strangers and reflexively disagree with everyone on every issue for no reason. Do you need someone to talk to?
You seem to be having a months-long mental health crisis that causes you lash out at strangers and reflexively disagree with everyone on every issue for no reason. Do you need someone to talk to?
Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 2 years ago, 2 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #1,280,428
@1,280,424 (Kook !!rcSrAtaAC)
Why are you being so argumentative? You are acting defensive, like it's a bad thing that you took 340 days to rid yourself of bigoted views. I wish it had taken you less than a single day! No, a single second!
You should feel good about yourself. You need not defend anything. Please take this to heart and share your story with the world, so others can learn and grow as well. You should be proud of who you are and what you've become.
Why are you being so argumentative? You are acting defensive, like it's a bad thing that you took 340 days to rid yourself of bigoted views. I wish it had taken you less than a single day! No, a single second!
You should feel good about yourself. You need not defend anything. Please take this to heart and share your story with the world, so others can learn and grow as well. You should be proud of who you are and what you've become.
Anonymous A (OP) double-posted this 2 years ago, 33 seconds later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #1,280,429
Anonymous D replied with this 2 years ago, 1 minute later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #1,280,430
@1,280,428 (A)
@previous (A)
You seem to be having a months-long mental health crisis that causes you lash out at strangers and reflexively disagree with everyone on every issue for no reason. Do you need someone to talk to?
@previous (A)
You seem to be having a months-long mental health crisis that causes you lash out at strangers and reflexively disagree with everyone on every issue for no reason. Do you need someone to talk to?
Kook !!rcSrAtaAC replied with this 2 years ago, 1 minute later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #1,280,432
Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 2 years ago, 4 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #1,280,433
@previous (Kook !!rcSrAtaAC)
Don't let others dictate your behavior. You are your own agent and shouldn't let anyone or anything stop you from helping others.
Don't let others dictate your behavior. You are your own agent and shouldn't let anyone or anything stop you from helping others.
Anonymous D replied with this 2 years ago, 3 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #1,280,435
@previous (A)
You seem to be having a months-long mental health crisis that causes you lash out at strangers and reflexively disagree with everyone on every issue for no reason. Do you need someone to talk to?
You seem to be having a months-long mental health crisis that causes you lash out at strangers and reflexively disagree with everyone on every issue for no reason. Do you need someone to talk to?
Kook !!rcSrAtaAC replied with this 2 years ago, 2 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #1,280,436
@1,280,433 (A)
I'm dictating my own behavior and I don't wish to educate liars
Broke, bitter, lonely, hopeless
I'm dictating my own behavior and I don't wish to educate liars
Broke, bitter, lonely, hopeless
Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 2 years ago, 5 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #1,280,438
@previous (Kook !!rcSrAtaAC)
You have repeatedly and inexplicably tried to make this about me, but when I pressed, you said "it has nothing to do with you".
Yes, we agree. This has nothing to do with me. This is about helping others. Don't let anyone get in the way of that and don't feel like you need to come up with reasons, hidden motives, or other conspiracies that make you feel defensive and disinclined to help others.
You have repeatedly and inexplicably tried to make this about me, but when I pressed, you said "it has nothing to do with you".
Yes, we agree. This has nothing to do with me. This is about helping others. Don't let anyone get in the way of that and don't feel like you need to come up with reasons, hidden motives, or other conspiracies that make you feel defensive and disinclined to help others.
Kook !!rcSrAtaAC replied with this 2 years ago, 10 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #1,280,440
Anonymous D replied with this 2 years ago, 7 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #1,280,442
@1,280,438 (A)
You claim to care about brie in all this, but you sure have a strange way of showing it. If you aren't full of shit, then cease and desist from libeling her wife immediately
You claim to care about brie in all this, but you sure have a strange way of showing it. If you aren't full of shit, then cease and desist from libeling her wife immediately
Anonymous B replied with this 2 years ago, 50 seconds later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #1,280,443
Mind the gape!
(goatse)
(goatse)
Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 2 years ago, 26 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #1,280,453
@1,280,442 (D)
> but you sure have a strange way of showing it.
I don't think there's anything strange about it at all. I said what I've noticed and I've said what I think. Should someone that truly cares have done less? Just kept their mouth shut? Why? Because Kook is getting upset? Why is she getting upset? In all her attempts to turn this into a conversation about me, she's revealing more and more about herself. Sounds like it ought to be some type of Chinese proverb. The fact of the matter is, it doesn't matter who I am. Everything I've said can be easily verified -- I gave links to each and every quote. Everyone is welcomed and invited to think this through themselves.
> If you aren't full of shit, then cease and desist from libeling her wife immediately
If you can show me anything you believe to be libel, then please point to it. Changing her world view from spewing borderline hate-speech all over the board to being an aggressive defender of trans women - in a matter of days. Why shouldn't we celebrate?
If this makes anyone uncomfortable or feel defensive, then perhaps it's worth asking: why? Why should this make Kook feel alarmed? It doesn't make sense to me. There must be more to the story.
> but you sure have a strange way of showing it.
I don't think there's anything strange about it at all. I said what I've noticed and I've said what I think. Should someone that truly cares have done less? Just kept their mouth shut? Why? Because Kook is getting upset? Why is she getting upset? In all her attempts to turn this into a conversation about me, she's revealing more and more about herself. Sounds like it ought to be some type of Chinese proverb. The fact of the matter is, it doesn't matter who I am. Everything I've said can be easily verified -- I gave links to each and every quote. Everyone is welcomed and invited to think this through themselves.
> If you aren't full of shit, then cease and desist from libeling her wife immediately
If you can show me anything you believe to be libel, then please point to it. Changing her world view from spewing borderline hate-speech all over the board to being an aggressive defender of trans women - in a matter of days. Why shouldn't we celebrate?
If this makes anyone uncomfortable or feel defensive, then perhaps it's worth asking: why? Why should this make Kook feel alarmed? It doesn't make sense to me. There must be more to the story.
Anonymous D replied with this 2 years ago, 2 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #1,280,455
@previous (A)
Maybe you should look into any recent changes to libel law before you land yourself in any further trouble
Maybe you should look into any recent changes to libel law before you land yourself in any further trouble
Kook !!rcSrAtaAC replied with this 2 years ago, 3 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #1,280,457
Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 2 years ago, 4 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #1,280,458
Anonymous A (OP) double-posted this 2 years ago, 13 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #1,280,459
@1,280,457 (Kook !!rcSrAtaAC)
> Bitter, broke, lonely, hopeless
Anonymous D ought to warn you about these ominous-sounding "recent changes to libel law"!
> Bitter, broke, lonely, hopeless
Anonymous D ought to warn you about these ominous-sounding "recent changes to libel law"!