Now before anyone gets carried away and blames Russia, think about this...
Even though Russia fired that missile and even though they targeted a civilian market and didn't have to it is still Bidens fault and the fault of nato. Those poor innocent Russian missile operators were left with no choise
Erik !saAqdaazn2 (OP) replied with this 1 year ago, 4 minutes later, 6 minutes after the original post[^][v]#1,254,338
@previous (Father Merrin !u5oFWxmY7U)
Do you think that if the west stopped supplying money and weapons then Russia would stop defending themselves against Ukraine?
Father Merrin !u5oFWxmY7U replied with this 1 year ago, 38 seconds later, 7 minutes after the original post[^][v]#1,254,339
I will say though that doing this at the exact moment America's Secretary of State is meeting with Zelenskiy in Kiev is peak Putin. It was obvious there'd be at attack of some kind but we expected early morning at a port or something. Busy market place at 3pm is Putin's dry humour at its most whimsical.
> Do you think that if the west stopped supplying money and weapons then Russia would stop defending themselves against Ukraine?
No! If Russia stops fighting, the war ends. If Ukraine stops fighting, Ukraine ends. That's why it's vital the West continues to send money and weapons for as long as it takes.
Incidentally this is true. If you hadn't sabotaged the Ankara agreement in 2022 based on the nonsense that you'd collapse the Russian economy within 2 months, those people would still be alive. As it is you strung the Ukrainians along and now you've left them in this giant mess, having to beg you for a handful of decrepit F-16s sometime next year.
Anonymous C joined in and replied with this 1 year ago, 5 minutes later, 18 minutes after the original post[^][v]#1,254,342
> Dave looked at the news and sadly shook his head. A Russian missile had just collided with a Ukrainian market, killing innocent civilians. Faced with such senseless loss of life, Dave could only ask one question: "How can the west do this?".
Father Merrin !u5oFWxmY7U replied with this 1 year ago, 5 minutes later, 23 minutes after the original post[^][v]#1,254,344
Legit lol'd. Same old script. "We stand with Ukraine!" Yeah, how's that working out for them? "Hey grieving parents, great news: America stands with you while you bury your child!"
Oh well, just another bunch of dead Ukrainians. Bored of it by now. This news will have been forgotten by tomorrow.
Yes, people who have been calling for peace negotiations to begin for the last 18 months are the cunts here. People stringing Ukraine along to continue fighting a war it is literally impossible for them to win are the good guys.
Father Merrin !u5oFWxmY7U replied with this 1 year ago, 38 minutes later, 1 hour after the original post[^][v]#1,254,354
@previous (Erik !saAqdaazn2)
Flowers will not help Ukraine defeat Russia. Only drip-feeding them just about enough decommissioned tanks and F-16s to keep the war going for years will do that.
Father Merrin !u5oFWxmY7U replied with this 1 year ago, 6 minutes later, 2 hours after the original post[^][v]#1,254,358
Blinken's meeting with Zelenskiy is the usual insult to the intelligence (thankfully the Slava Ukraini crowd have no intelligence so don't realise they're being strung along).
Blinken: "I'm here to hear directly from Ukraine what they need. They are, after all, the ones fighting this war and they know best what they need"
Ukraine: "For the thousandth fucking time we need long-range missiles like ATACMS and Taurus missiles, and we needed a fleet of F16s a fucking YEAR ago"
Blinken: "Nah, you don't need that stuff. Maybe in a year or 2 you will but not now. Instead have a bunch of mine-clearing equipment and some more shells. That ought to tide you over until next spring. Slava Ukraini. We stand with you for as long as it takes".
Thread title needs changing by the way. Death toll is now 17.
What about? Ukraine really does harbor Nazis, like, actual Nazis. They never got cleaned up after WW2 like Germany did. And when Russian went in for a special military operation to clean shit up, Ukraine was all "hey we like having Nazis, could you not?" and started a war.
Edit: Oh, is Merrin pro Ukraine? It's hard to tell
Father Merrin !u5oFWxmY7U replied with this 1 year ago, 20 minutes later, 4 hours after the original post[^][v]#1,254,368
Less than 6 hours after 17 Ukrainians were killed and CNN have already shunted the story way down their front page in favour of more important matters.
Said it before and I'll say it again: it's just another pile of dead Ukrainians. Nobody gives a shit because dying is what Ukrainians now do.
Even for you that's a preposterously weak response. Ukraine are supposedly YOUR "friends and allies". YOU are the people pretending to give a fuck about their suffering. And it's taken less than 6 hours for the story of 17 dead civilians to drop beneath stories about Trump, ISIS and an escaped terrorist in London. Imagine if some mass shooter had killed 17 Americans. It'd be all over the news for days. But another pile of dead Ukrainians? Meh, who gives a shit. The biggest cheerleaders of this war (CNN) decide it's high time to check in on Trump for a while.
Father Merrin !u5oFWxmY7U double-posted this 1 year ago, 6 minutes later, 6 hours after the original post[^][v]#1,254,376
@1,254,374 (Erik !saAqdaazn2)
By the way remember when you said you wanted the UK government to take 10% of everyone's monthly salary and send it to Ukraine? Until they do that, here's a link where you can donate yourself, without waiting for the government to do it for you:
Erik !saAqdaazn2 (OP) replied with this 1 year ago, 7 seconds later, 6 hours after the original post[^][v]#1,254,377
@1,254,375 (Father Merrin !u5oFWxmY7U)
I've decided not to interact with you anymore. It's a shame because we had some good banter but your aloofness around Russian responsibility of this war makes me think too poorly of you.
Father Merrin !u5oFWxmY7U double-posted this 1 year ago, 17 minutes later, 6 hours after the original post[^][v]#1,254,383
Oh dear, and now the BBC have got bored of the story. They almost lasted half a day. Hard to maintain interest when piles of dead Ukrainians are regular occurrences.
Father Merrin !u5oFWxmY7U replied with this 1 year ago, 10 minutes later, 7 hours after the original post[^][v]#1,254,385
@previous (I)
In a "free" democracy, you get the media you deserve. If your media "suck" it's because so do you. CNN and the BBC have seen that people aren't clicking on the story and so have shifted it way down their websites. And people aren't clicking because piles of dead Ukrainians has become normalised. It's no longer shocking or nauseating, as it was in March 2022. And it should be shocking and nauseating, because then maybe some of these war fetishists masquerading as Ukraine sympathisers would start calling for peace negotiations to begin immediately, given that Ukraine physically and literally cannot win this war.
Anonymous F replied with this 1 year ago, 3 minutes later, 8 hours after the original post[^][v]#1,254,404
@1,254,385 (Father Merrin !u5oFWxmY7U)
Remember when it started and every major social media site was running the same psyop where for an entire month and a half any sort of gore posting was allowed, as long as you captioned it as being dead Ukrainians...
He said he's donated 2000 pounds in the last year. He claims to want the government to take 10% of his salary for Ukraine. I seriously doubt his annual salary is 20,000 pounds. Living in central London it will be closer to 3 or 4 times that amount.
Anonymous C replied with this 1 year ago, 1 minute later, 8 hours after the original post[^][v]#1,254,411
@1,254,383 (Father Merrin !u5oFWxmY7U) > #ToTheLastUkrainian
I know you think this is very witty, but when you're also completely ignoring to that it's Russia that's killing them you come off as a bit insane.
Anonymous L joined in and replied with this 1 year ago, 1 minute later, 8 hours after the original post[^][v]#1,254,413
@previous (C)
Maybe they should stop firing at the legitimate security forces of the Donbas, then.
Kyiv is recognized as a Ukranian city by all 6 members of the security council, so they should move there. At the moment, they are in a russian oblast illegally.
> > #ToTheLastUkrainian > I know you think this is very witty
You know it's a direct quote of Lindsey Graham right? And no, I don't think it's witty, I think it's pure insanity, but as long as those who call for immediate peace talks are told "No!! Ukraine must militarily defeat Russia on the battlefield!!" (which they know will never happen), it won't stop.
Anonymous L replied with this 1 year ago, 1 minute later, 8 hours after the original post[^][v]#1,254,415
@previous (Father Merrin !u5oFWxmY7U)
Lindsay Graham wants the men prevented from leaving, then killed off. He wants the women to take refuge in Charleston and D.C.
Anonymous L replied with this 1 year ago, 39 seconds later, 8 hours after the original post[^][v]#1,254,420
@1,254,374 (Erik !saAqdaazn2)
I don't know if anyone in Russian media cares, or if RT has a story to talk about it, because that is all blocked in my country. There might be a way around those blocks, but I wouldn't risk that.
If Russian media is comically lying all the time, why can't citizens be trusted to watch it critically? If I put on France24 no one thinks I'm going to enslave children in a uraniam mine, and when I tune into DW no one calls me a nazi.
You put RT on a screen here and someone will report you, and the law is unambiguous.