Topic: Kiwifruit Seed Oil Prevents Obesity by Regulating Inflammation, Thermogenesis, and Gut Microbiota in
Sheila LaBoof started this discussion 5 years ago #99,969
in High-Fat Diet-Induced Obese C57BL/6 Mice
Yes, I saw some quack doctor with a book to sell badmouth seed oils like an idiot so I looked up what we know about seed oils in the diet. There are lots of examples where seed oils are not fucking demons trying to kill you. That doctor was a quack bitch with a book to sell with the latest in gimmicky focus on something we eat that is killing us. A few years ago, another quack was badmouthing gluten. So now we have people talking about gluten who don't know what the fuck their talking about but they heard about gluten so they talk shit about gluten. Now this bitch is trying to do the same to seed oils? Fuck off.
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/30597221/
Yes, I saw some quack doctor with a book to sell badmouth seed oils like an idiot so I looked up what we know about seed oils in the diet. There are lots of examples where seed oils are not fucking demons trying to kill you. That doctor was a quack bitch with a book to sell with the latest in gimmicky focus on something we eat that is killing us. A few years ago, another quack was badmouthing gluten. So now we have people talking about gluten who don't know what the fuck their talking about but they heard about gluten so they talk shit about gluten. Now this bitch is trying to do the same to seed oils? Fuck off.
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/30597221/
Apocalypse Indy™ !bYobIzYIFE joined in and replied with this 5 years ago, 15 minutes later[^] [v] #1,127,781
The newest knowledge is that fat does not make us fat: carbs do.
Sheila LaBoof (OP) replied with this 5 years ago, 5 minutes later, 21 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #1,127,782
yeah that's another thing I have a beef with
It doesn't matter what you eat so much as it matters how much you eat. If you eat too much compared to your metabolism's energy needs, you store fat in your body, regardless of what proportions of what you ate. Humans are extremely adaptable and can do well on all sorts of foodstuffs whether it's high or low fat, or protien, or carbos, or whatever, just so long as you aren't eating too much of anything that the body can build fat molecules out of.
It doesn't matter what you eat so much as it matters how much you eat. If you eat too much compared to your metabolism's energy needs, you store fat in your body, regardless of what proportions of what you ate. Humans are extremely adaptable and can do well on all sorts of foodstuffs whether it's high or low fat, or protien, or carbos, or whatever, just so long as you aren't eating too much of anything that the body can build fat molecules out of.
Apocalypse Indy™ !bYobIzYIFE replied with this 5 years ago, 3 minutes later, 25 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #1,127,784
@previous (Sheila LaBoof)
True, but carbohydrates are the real culprits in obesity and many diseases. Humans did not evolve to eat processed grains and refined sugars.
True, but carbohydrates are the real culprits in obesity and many diseases. Humans did not evolve to eat processed grains and refined sugars.
Sheila LaBoof (OP) replied with this 5 years ago, 24 minutes later, 49 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #1,127,790
Sure, but a lot of that kind of thing is overstated especially if it helps some asshole sell some diet books. I myself have what feels like a natural aversion to surgery food and hate all the overly sweet tasting shit factories make, but some sugar isn't a big problem for the body to process. People have innovated with their food for thousands of years, finding new shit to eat in nature, breeding things to give more mass, and so on. I can't fret about one specific innovation such as refining, other than the reasonable advice to not just eat refined shit, and don't eat too much overall.
Apocalypse Indy™ !bYobIzYIFE replied with this 5 years ago, 6 minutes later, 55 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #1,127,791
@previous (Sheila LaBoof)
Actually, the latest medical knowledge is that glucose, whether in sugar or carbs, is difficult for the body to handle in large amounts. That is what causes Type 2 Diabetes. The ideal meal should be about 70% vegetables, 25% protein, and 5% carbs. I do not mean to come across as argumentative. It is just that I am dealing with this myself, so I did my research.
Actually, the latest medical knowledge is that glucose, whether in sugar or carbs, is difficult for the body to handle in large amounts. That is what causes Type 2 Diabetes. The ideal meal should be about 70% vegetables, 25% protein, and 5% carbs. I do not mean to come across as argumentative. It is just that I am dealing with this myself, so I did my research.
Sheila LaBoof (OP) replied with this 5 years ago, 7 minutes later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #1,127,793
Yeah, I don't disagree that too much sugar fucks people out. I just don't think it matters so much about proportions one way or another as much as people think, other than generally don't eat too much of everything, and don't eat too much of one thing over the course of a year or more (people in various parts of the world will change what they eat according to what the land and sea make available in the seasons).
16bitch !/nxYguuEzA joined in and replied with this 5 years ago, 1 day later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #1,128,064
@OP, this is absolutely revolutionary data. I can't believe I haven't heard of this sooner!
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Anonymous D joined in and replied with this 5 years ago, 14 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #1,128,074
@1,127,782 (Sheila LaBoof)
I disagree immensely. A calorie is not just a calorie, far from it, it's far more complex than just a mathematical problem, it's a health problem. You can eat the same amount of calories yet if you get all of them from sugar, you are most likely way more fat than the guy who gets it from other sources.
I disagree immensely. A calorie is not just a calorie, far from it, it's far more complex than just a mathematical problem, it's a health problem. You can eat the same amount of calories yet if you get all of them from sugar, you are most likely way more fat than the guy who gets it from other sources.
Anonymous B replied with this 5 years ago, 14 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #1,128,077
Sheila LaBoof (OP) replied with this 5 years ago, 26 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #1,128,080
@1,128,074 (D)
> I disagree immensely. A calorie is not just a calorie, far from it, it's far more complex than just a mathematical problem, it's a health problem. You can eat the same amount of calories yet if you get all of them from sugar, you are most likely way more fat than the guy who gets it from other sources.
yeah that's what I said for fuck sake, don't overdo any one thing, additionally don't overdo everything regardless of proportions, otherwise don't sweat proportions so much -- natural state of people is to live off the local land and sea, with a changing diet throughout the seasons
> I disagree immensely. A calorie is not just a calorie, far from it, it's far more complex than just a mathematical problem, it's a health problem. You can eat the same amount of calories yet if you get all of them from sugar, you are most likely way more fat than the guy who gets it from other sources.
yeah that's what I said for fuck sake, don't overdo any one thing, additionally don't overdo everything regardless of proportions, otherwise don't sweat proportions so much -- natural state of people is to live off the local land and sea, with a changing diet throughout the seasons
Anonymous D replied with this 5 years ago, 16 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #1,128,082
@previous (Sheila LaBoof)
Oh my bad. The thing is though that from what I gather, there's even sugar in your sugar these days, it's everywhere and often sold as something healthy. A lot of people are eating way too much sugar and they don't even know it.
Oh my bad. The thing is though that from what I gather, there's even sugar in your sugar these days, it's everywhere and often sold as something healthy. A lot of people are eating way too much sugar and they don't even know it.
Green !StaYqkzUPc joined in and replied with this 5 years ago, 1 hour later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #1,128,102
@1,127,781 (Apocalypse Indy™ !bYobIzYIFE)
Wrong. Fat makes you fat. I'm losing weight and I eat mainly carbs.
Wrong. Fat makes you fat. I'm losing weight and I eat mainly carbs.
Anonymous D replied with this 5 years ago, 20 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #1,128,107
@previous (Green !StaYqkzUPc)
Wrong. The whole world has been eating more sugar with each year and obesity has been increasing with each year.
Wrong. The whole world has been eating more sugar with each year and obesity has been increasing with each year.
Green !StaYqkzUPc replied with this 5 years ago, 4 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #1,128,108
Anonymous F joined in and replied with this 5 years ago, 1 hour later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #1,128,117
Upgrade to the carnivore diet. Thanks
Sheila LaBoof (OP) replied with this 5 years ago, 6 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #1,128,120
Joe Rogan tried the meat diet for a month and there was a period where he blew shit out his ass for a couple of weeks and then he felt great
you see, the body is highly adaptable
but still it's retarded to just eat one thing for longer than a season
you see, the body is highly adaptable
but still it's retarded to just eat one thing for longer than a season
Blom joined in and replied with this 5 years ago, 1 hour later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #1,128,134
Sheila LaBoof (OP) replied with this 5 years ago, 5 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #1,128,135
how peculiar, youtube just recommended I watch "All the food is poison"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Re6pZri8Gw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Re6pZri8Gw
dw joined in and replied with this 5 years ago, 4 hours later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #1,128,220
I like kiwis
Anonymous D replied with this 5 years ago, 26 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #1,128,223
@1,128,135 (Sheila LaBoof)
Sponsored by coca cila probably, wants you to remember a calorie is just a calorie and there's no reason to check for sugar
Sponsored by coca cila probably, wants you to remember a calorie is just a calorie and there's no reason to check for sugar