Topic: It took 11 days for another 1 mil cases
ftd !Cs02iDB7RA started this discussion 5 years ago #99,526
2nd of April - 1 million cases
15th of April - 2 million cases (13 days)
27th of April - 3 million cases (12 days)
8th of May - 4 million cases (11 days)
I wonder will it start to level out and slow down now, or is going to be 10/11 days to hit another million.
15th of April - 2 million cases (13 days)
27th of April - 3 million cases (12 days)
8th of May - 4 million cases (11 days)
I wonder will it start to level out and slow down now, or is going to be 10/11 days to hit another million.
Anonymous B joined in and replied with this 5 years ago, 3 hours later[^] [v] #1,123,077
The Coronavirus is a hoax. There are no cases and no deaths happened because of this made up virus.
tteh !MemesToDNA joined in and replied with this 5 years ago, 14 hours later, 18 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,123,350
I think it'll slow or stay around the same - about 11 days until 5 million, or fewer.
Sheila LaBoof joined in and replied with this 5 years ago, 8 minutes later, 18 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,123,355
It's a hoax but it is also made on the order of Soros in Wuhan. Both are true and a terrible sacandal!
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Meta !Sober//iZs joined in and replied with this 5 years ago, 1 hour later, 20 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,123,405
I've been looking at the graphs of new cases per day on worldometer and it seems we peaked about April 4th and since then been bouncing around in the 75k-100k new cases per day range which would put us at 10 to 13 days for the next million. But it definitely looks to have stabilized in the range we are now and it's a linear growth, not exponential.
https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/worldwide-graphs/#daily-cases
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Teadrinkerdangerous !Cs02iDB7RA (OP) replied with this 5 years ago, 1 week later, 1 week after the original post[^] [v] #1,126,590
20th of May - 5 million
Erik !AltRitexT6 joined in and replied with this 5 years ago, 20 minutes later, 1 week after the original post[^] [v] #1,126,591
@previous (Teadrinkerdangerous !Cs02iDB7RA)
Are you drinking Barry's tea? I always drank that when I was in Ireland.
Are you drinking Barry's tea? I always drank that when I was in Ireland.
Teadrinkerdangerous !Cs02iDB7RA (OP) replied with this 5 years ago, 29 minutes later, 1 week after the original post[^] [v] #1,126,592
Lyons :')
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Teadrinkerdangerous !Cs02iDB7RA (OP) double-posted this 5 years ago, 34 seconds later, 1 week after the original post[^] [v] #1,126,594
Anonymous I joined in and replied with this 5 years ago, 11 minutes later, 1 week after the original post[^] [v] #1,126,595
Oh my God! Only 99.85% of us are going to survive this global pandemic where the average age of death is higher than the average age of life expectancy. Everyone should cower inside for months while becoming unemployed!
Sheila LaBoof replied with this 5 years ago, 8 hours later, 1 week after the original post[^] [v] #1,126,692
Anonymous J joined in and replied with this 5 years ago, 2 minutes later, 1 week after the original post[^] [v] #1,126,693
@1,126,595 (I)
Oh my gosh now I can't buy my giant dildo ohhh no! We should just let people die because i want to buy my dildos so much bawwwwwwww
Oh my gosh now I can't buy my giant dildo ohhh no! We should just let people die because i want to buy my dildos so much bawwwwwwww
Anonymous K joined in and replied with this 5 years ago, 32 minutes later, 1 week after the original post[^] [v] #1,126,694
You're saying 1.05 million gonna die?
Anonymous L joined in and replied with this 5 years ago, 40 minutes later, 1 week after the original post[^] [v] #1,126,700
The number of cases doesn't tell the whole story. You have got to figure in how many tests were run in them time frames. The last couple of weeks there have been triple if not more tests to get it to reach them numbers. The tests are free, the antibody tests costs to see if you had the virus but there are people paying to see and the ones coming back positive are added on to the total number of cases. Just because it is staying level right now doesn't mean it isn't going down.
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@1,126,709 (M)
The more tests we run, the more positive cases we find. Also, it seems as though many people are infected, with no symptoms. So the mortality rate is likely better than we previously thought
The more tests we run, the more positive cases we find. Also, it seems as though many people are infected, with no symptoms. So the mortality rate is likely better than we previously thought
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Sheila LaBoof replied with this 5 years ago, 1 hour later, 1 week after the original post[^] [v] #1,126,765
@1,126,751 (Kook !!rcSrAtaAC)
there is speculation that flus generally also may be like that. That's why they decided that deaths per million of entire population tells us more than deaths per million known cases, too. The scary side is that the fucking virus spreads like a motherfucker, and in a sneaky way so that you don't know it until you got nursing homes where half of them drop dead and so do a couple of workers who might have been spreading it because they work at more than one home.
there is speculation that flus generally also may be like that. That's why they decided that deaths per million of entire population tells us more than deaths per million known cases, too. The scary side is that the fucking virus spreads like a motherfucker, and in a sneaky way so that you don't know it until you got nursing homes where half of them drop dead and so do a couple of workers who might have been spreading it because they work at more than one home.
Kook !!rcSrAtaAC replied with this 5 years ago, 31 minutes later, 1 week after the original post[^] [v] #1,126,776
@previous (Sheila LaBoof)
We almost had that happen at work. A coworker knew that her husband had Corona and hid it!
We almost had that happen at work. A coworker knew that her husband had Corona and hid it!
Anonymous I replied with this 5 years ago, 2 hours later, 1 week after the original post[^] [v] #1,126,790
@1,126,765 (Sheila LaBoof)
In New York it was mandatory for elderly people with the wuflu to recover back in their nursing homes and not in the hospital until they tested clear. Guess why NYC has the highest death rate among nursing home residents.
In New York it was mandatory for elderly people with the wuflu to recover back in their nursing homes and not in the hospital until they tested clear. Guess why NYC has the highest death rate among nursing home residents.
Sheila LaBoof replied with this 5 years ago, 14 minutes later, 1 week after the original post[^] [v] #1,126,799
cuz the virus got loose?
Anonymous Q joined in and replied with this 5 years ago, 29 minutes later, 1 week after the original post[^] [v] #1,126,808
@1,126,790 (I)
Let me guess. Is it because the evil liberals planned it that way?
I bet those EEEVIIILLL liberals were just cackling and rubbing their hands together once they found an excuse for the world-wide news media (who controls what everyone thinks) that they control to blame... nursing homes. Right now! Nursing homes!
Up until now, nursing homes haven't been blamed. But now THEY ARE ATTACKING OUR ELDERLY!@@
It's probably one of their evil plots that they haven't executed until... NOW! They are probably doing this now to do... stuff. Or Something. Whatever. Liberals. Whoooo! Eviiiilll Librals. Yep. Hillary. Emails. Stuff. Keep think evil thoughts now...
Let me guess. Is it because the evil liberals planned it that way?
I bet those EEEVIIILLL liberals were just cackling and rubbing their hands together once they found an excuse for the world-wide news media (who controls what everyone thinks) that they control to blame... nursing homes. Right now! Nursing homes!
Up until now, nursing homes haven't been blamed. But now THEY ARE ATTACKING OUR ELDERLY!@@
It's probably one of their evil plots that they haven't executed until... NOW! They are probably doing this now to do... stuff. Or Something. Whatever. Liberals. Whoooo! Eviiiilll Librals. Yep. Hillary. Emails. Stuff. Keep think evil thoughts now...
Anonymous I replied with this 5 years ago, 10 hours later, 1 week after the original post[^] [v] #1,126,904
Kook !!rcSrAtaAC replied with this 5 years ago, 2 hours later, 1 week after the original post[^] [v] #1,126,924
Ftd !Cs02iDB7RA (OP) replied with this 5 years ago, 1 week later, 3 weeks after the original post[^] [v] #1,130,047
29th of May - 6 million
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Meta !Sober//iZs replied with this 5 years ago, 8 minutes later, 3 weeks after the original post[^] [v] #1,130,055
Kook !!rcSrAtaAC replied with this 5 years ago, 1 hour later, 3 weeks after the original post[^] [v] #1,130,071
Ftd !Cs02iDB7RA (OP) replied with this 5 years ago, 1 week later, 4 weeks after the original post[^] [v] #1,132,038
7 million bb~
Fake anon !ZkUt8arUCU replied with this 5 years ago, 59 minutes later, 4 weeks after the original post[^] [v] #1,132,043
Don't worry, the USA is still number 1! in total cases and total deaths, but Brazil is doing a heckuva job catching up. Keep an eye on Russia and India as well.
Anonymous M replied with this 5 years ago, 2 hours later, 4 weeks after the original post[^] [v] #1,132,054
Sheila LaBoof replied with this 5 years ago, 33 minutes later, 4 weeks after the original post[^] [v] #1,132,057
heckuva job, Brownie
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Fake anon !ZkUt8arUCU replied with this 5 years ago, 1 hour later, 1 month after the original post[^] [v] #1,132,285
@1,132,054 (M)
Well, people stopped making 12 different topics a day about the same subject of course.
Well, people stopped making 12 different topics a day about the same subject of course.
Fake anon !ZkUt8arUCU double-posted this 5 years ago, 15 seconds later, 1 month after the original post[^] [v] #1,132,286
Anonymous S replied with this 5 years ago, 8 hours later, 1 month after the original post[^] [v] #1,132,359
Ftd !Cs02iDB7RA (OP) replied with this 5 years ago, 1 week later, 1 month after the original post[^] [v] #1,134,947
8 mil 14th of June bbs
Anonymous A (OP) double-posted this 5 years ago, 6 days later, 1 month after the original post[^] [v] #1,136,602
9 mil 21st of June
Fake anon !ZkUt8arUCU replied with this 5 years ago, 3 minutes later, 1 month after the original post[^] [v] #1,136,605
1 million new cases a week. Awesome. ???
Anonymous S replied with this 5 years ago, 24 minutes later, 1 month after the original post[^] [v] #1,136,610
Ftd !Cs02iDB7RA (OP) replied with this 5 years ago, 4 days later, 1 month after the original post[^] [v] #1,137,775
10 mil 27th of June
Fake anon !ZkUt8arUCU replied with this 5 years ago, 7 hours later, 1 month after the original post[^] [v] #1,137,826
1 million new cases in 6 days. ???
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Ftd !Cs02iDB7RA (OP) replied with this 5 years ago, 5 hours later, 1 month after the original post[^] [v] #1,137,929
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Ftd !Cs02iDB7RA (OP) replied with this 5 years ago, 3 days later, 1 month after the original post[^] [v] #1,139,142
So close to 11 mil. Could be tomorrow ?
Anonymous S replied with this 5 years ago, 4 minutes later, 1 month after the original post[^] [v] #1,139,143
Killer Lettuce? !HonkUK.BIE replied with this 5 years ago, 3 minutes later, 1 month after the original post[^] [v] #1,139,144
@1,139,142 (Ftd !Cs02iDB7RA)
@previous (S)
Sad to see trusted forumites siding with the virus. ?
@previous (S)
Sad to see trusted forumites siding with the virus. ?
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Anonymous S replied with this 5 years ago, 26 minutes later, 1 month after the original post[^] [v] #1,139,151
Erik !jzYkdX7lIw joined in and replied with this 5 years ago, 11 hours later, 1 month after the original post[^] [v] #1,139,324
Looking forward to culling the world of weak old people.
Kook !!rcSrAtaAC replied with this 5 years ago, 6 hours later, 1 month after the original post[^] [v] #1,139,392
Ftd !Cs02iDB7RA (OP) replied with this 5 years ago, 14 hours later, 1 month after the original post[^] [v] #1,139,618
3rd of July - 11 mil
Fake anon !ZkUt8arUCU replied with this 5 years ago, 6 hours later, 1 month after the original post[^] [v] #1,139,638
Anonymous M replied with this 5 years ago, 15 hours later, 1 month after the original post[^] [v] #1,139,859
@previous (Fake anon !ZkUt8arUCU)I guess so if we're doing half a million tests or more per day. How amazing pfffft.
Anonymous Q replied with this 5 years ago, 1 hour later, 1 month after the original post[^] [v] #1,139,872
@previous (M)
Obviously. This is proof that it's all a liberal hoax. The death totals were all over by Easter like God Emperor Trump said it would be. Anyone telling you different is lying fake news.
Obviously. This is proof that it's all a liberal hoax. The death totals were all over by Easter like God Emperor Trump said it would be. Anyone telling you different is lying fake news.
Killer Lettuce? !HonkUK.BIE replied with this 5 years ago, 5 hours later, 1 month after the original post[^] [v] #1,139,896
@1,139,859 (M)
But if this is true, that you're doing more tests and finding much more COVID, isn't that a cause for alarm?
But if this is true, that you're doing more tests and finding much more COVID, isn't that a cause for alarm?
Fake anon !ZkUt8arUCU replied with this 5 years ago, 2 hours later, 1 month after the original post[^] [v] #1,139,935
@1,139,859 (M)
The test positivity rate isn't falling though. Which means we are increasing our testing slower than the virus is spreading. That is very bad.
The test positivity rate isn't falling though. Which means we are increasing our testing slower than the virus is spreading. That is very bad.
Anonymous M replied with this 5 years ago, 1 hour later, 1 month after the original post[^] [v] #1,139,973
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Killer Lettuce? !HonkUK.BIE replied with this 5 years ago, 5 minutes later, 1 month after the original post[^] [v] #1,139,985
@1,139,973 (M)
In what way is it conjecture? It makes sense, if tests are going up but the rate of positive results isn't going down, it means that there are more infectees than the tests are finding.
In what way is it conjecture? It makes sense, if tests are going up but the rate of positive results isn't going down, it means that there are more infectees than the tests are finding.
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Fake anon !ZkUt8arUCU replied with this 5 years ago, 1 hour later, 1 month after the original post[^] [v] #1,140,000
Anonymous M replied with this 5 years ago, 51 minutes later, 1 month after the original post[^] [v] #1,140,042
@1,139,985 (Killer Lettuce? !HonkUK.BIE)> it means that there are more infectees than the tests are finding.
One could imagine it INFERS that.
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chill dog !!81dzJNNYL replied with this 5 years ago, 8 minutes later, 1 month after the original post[^] [v] #1,140,044
Anonymous S replied with this 5 years ago, 15 minutes later, 1 month after the original post[^] [v] #1,140,052
Kook !!rcSrAtaAC replied with this 5 years ago, 1 day later, 1 month after the original post[^] [v] #1,140,356
I wish I could hide this topic. It makes me paranoid
Killer Lettuce? !HonkUK.BIE replied with this 5 years ago, 23 minutes later, 1 month after the original post[^] [v] #1,140,362
@previous (Kook !!rcSrAtaAC)
You can, if you want to.
Go to your ignore list:
http://minichan.org/edit_ignore_list
Then put in a phrase from the OP (as a test I successfully hid it by entering "2nd of April - 1 million cases")
You can, if you want to.
Go to your ignore list:
http://minichan.org/edit_ignore_list
Then put in a phrase from the OP (as a test I successfully hid it by entering "2nd of April - 1 million cases")
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chill dog !!81dzJNNYL replied with this 5 years ago, 22 minutes later, 1 month after the original post[^] [v] #1,140,367
Kook !!rcSrAtaAC replied with this 5 years ago, 57 minutes later, 1 month after the original post[^] [v] #1,140,392
@1,140,362 (Killer Lettuce? !HonkUK.BIE)
@previous (chill dog !!81dzJNNYL)
Do I put it in quotations?
@previous (chill dog !!81dzJNNYL)
Do I put it in quotations?
Killer Lettuce? !HonkUK.BIE replied with this 5 years ago, 2 minutes later, 1 month after the original post[^] [v] #1,140,394
Ftd !Cs02iDB7RA (OP) replied with this 5 years ago, 2 days later, 2 months after the original post[^] [v] #1,141,185
12 million - 8th of July
Fake anon !ZkUt8arUCU replied with this 5 years ago, 5 minutes later, 2 months after the original post[^] [v] #1,141,186
1 million new cases in 4 days? ????
Killer Lettuce? !HonkUK.BIE replied with this 5 years ago, 17 minutes later, 2 months after the original post[^] [v] #1,141,187
Anonymous M replied with this 5 years ago, 58 minutes later, 2 months after the original post[^] [v] #1,141,190
12,010,593 cases right now
Anonymous M double-posted this 5 years ago, 2 minutes later, 2 months after the original post[^] [v] #1,141,191
12,014,166 right now
Anonymous M triple-posted this 5 years ago, 56 seconds later, 2 months after the original post[^] [v] #1,141,192
12,024,188 cases right now
Anonymous M quadruple-posted this 5 years ago, 23 minutes later, 2 months after the original post[^] [v] #1,141,200
Cases right now 12,026,231
ftd !Cs02iDB7RA (OP) replied with this 5 years ago, 3 days later, 2 months after the original post[^] [v] #1,142,577
13 million - July 12th 2020
Anonymous S replied with this 5 years ago, 7 minutes later, 2 months after the original post[^] [v] #1,142,579
Dead !Pool..v42s joined in and replied with this 5 years ago, 55 minutes later, 2 months after the original post[^] [v] #1,142,586
The old roommate recovered. He's in his 70's
ftd !Cs02iDB7RA (OP) replied with this 5 years ago, 5 days later, 2 months after the original post[^] [v] #1,143,979
14 million - 17th July 2020
Fake anon !ZkUt8arUCU replied with this 5 years ago, 11 minutes later, 2 months after the original post[^] [v] #1,143,980
1 million new cases every 5 days, 350k of which are American, is very cool and normal.
ftd !Cs02iDB7RA (OP) replied with this 5 years ago, 55 minutes later, 2 months after the original post[^] [v] #1,143,983
Anonymous S replied with this 5 years ago, 4 hours later, 2 months after the original post[^] [v] #1,144,053
@1,143,979 (ftd !Cs02iDB7RA)
It is a turning of the tide. Hopefully this keeps up.
It is a turning of the tide. Hopefully this keeps up.
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Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 5 years ago, 4 days later, 2 months after the original post[^] [v] #1,145,766
15 million - 21st of July
Fake anon !ZkUt8arUCU replied with this 5 years ago, 4 hours later, 2 months after the original post[^] [v] #1,145,773
Anonymous S replied with this 5 years ago, 15 hours later, 2 months after the original post[^] [v] #1,145,934
DasSheeple !XPQqN0U9Ew joined in and replied with this 5 years ago, 2 hours later, 2 months after the original post[^] [v] #1,145,948
Where do they pile up all these bodies?
Fake anon !ZkUt8arUCU replied with this 5 years ago, 7 hours later, 2 months after the original post[^] [v] #1,145,993
@previous (DasSheeple !XPQqN0U9Ew)
Usually they go from the hospital to the morgue, and then the families of the dead people hold some kind of funeral service. If you are concerned about a staffing shortage, you can always volunteer to help out!
Usually they go from the hospital to the morgue, and then the families of the dead people hold some kind of funeral service. If you are concerned about a staffing shortage, you can always volunteer to help out!
DasSheeple !XPQqN0U9Ew replied with this 5 years ago, 33 minutes later, 2 months after the original post[^] [v] #1,145,998
@previous (Fake anon !ZkUt8arUCU)
But with so many cases, morgues are probably piling up bodies to the roof. We see increasing numbers of infected but not increasing numbers of dead people (not just covid dead, but general population mortality). For a virus with 1-2% mortality, we are seeing some pretty rookie numbers.
But with so many cases, morgues are probably piling up bodies to the roof. We see increasing numbers of infected but not increasing numbers of dead people (not just covid dead, but general population mortality). For a virus with 1-2% mortality, we are seeing some pretty rookie numbers.
Fake anon !ZkUt8arUCU replied with this 5 years ago, 20 minutes later, 2 months after the original post[^] [v] #1,146,003
@previous (DasSheeple !XPQqN0U9Ew)
Whats your source on the death rate in hard-hit covid areas being the same this year compared to previous years?
Whats your source on the death rate in hard-hit covid areas being the same this year compared to previous years?
Fake anon !ZkUt8arUCU double-posted this 5 years ago, 19 minutes later, 2 months after the original post[^] [v] #1,146,006
I googled a bit and found this study:There were approximately 781 000 total deaths in the United States from March 1 to May 30, 2020, representing 122 300 (95% prediction interval, 116 800-127 000) more deaths than would typically be expected at that time of year. There were 95 235 reported deaths officially attributed to COVID-19 from March 1 to May 30, 2020. The number of excess all-cause deaths was 28% higher than the official tally of COVID-19–reported deaths during that period. In several states, these deaths occurred before increases in the availability of COVID-19 diagnostic tests and were not counted in official COVID-19 death records.
Looking at this chart, you can see that NYC got absolutely fucking slammed by deaths, and that deaths just about everywhere are higher than the baseline. So I'm confused where you are getting your info from.
jodie !foster2PAQ replied with this 5 years ago, 1 hour later, 2 months after the original post[^] [v] #1,146,017
@1,145,998 (DasSheeple !XPQqN0U9Ew)
> But with so many cases, morgues are probably piling up bodies to the roof. We see increasing numbers of infected but not increasing numbers of dead people (not just covid dead, but general population mortality). For a virus with 1-2% mortality, we are seeing some pretty rookie numbers.
get a load of this r-word
> But with so many cases, morgues are probably piling up bodies to the roof. We see increasing numbers of infected but not increasing numbers of dead people (not just covid dead, but general population mortality). For a virus with 1-2% mortality, we are seeing some pretty rookie numbers.
get a load of this r-word
DasSheeple !XPQqN0U9Ew replied with this 5 years ago, 14 hours later, 2 months after the original post[^] [v] #1,146,334
@1,146,006 (Fake anon !ZkUt8arUCU)
Considering that you guys double count each case pretty much and that if you tested positive at some point in your life for covid19, when you eventually die, you'll be a covid19 death, you perhaps might get a sense as of why I don't take your numbers seriously.
One of the more reliable sources on mortality in different EU countries is EuroMOMO (https://euromomo.eu/graphs-and-maps).
As you can see, yes, we had a bad flu season that hit some countries rather hard. But if you look at the time when it was the worst, and the reported numbers at that time vs. the death count now vs. reported numbers now, even you should be able to tell that the numbers don't add up. We're not talking about 2-3-5% difference, were talking 40-100x higher radios of infected vs. dead, lowering the actual mortality of the virus to a shocking 0.1-0.2% and that's me being generous with rounding.
Imagine a pandemic that only 99.85ish% of the people will survive. Damn Chinese and their bat soup eating habits!!
Considering that you guys double count each case pretty much and that if you tested positive at some point in your life for covid19, when you eventually die, you'll be a covid19 death, you perhaps might get a sense as of why I don't take your numbers seriously.
One of the more reliable sources on mortality in different EU countries is EuroMOMO (https://euromomo.eu/graphs-and-maps).
As you can see, yes, we had a bad flu season that hit some countries rather hard. But if you look at the time when it was the worst, and the reported numbers at that time vs. the death count now vs. reported numbers now, even you should be able to tell that the numbers don't add up. We're not talking about 2-3-5% difference, were talking 40-100x higher radios of infected vs. dead, lowering the actual mortality of the virus to a shocking 0.1-0.2% and that's me being generous with rounding.
Imagine a pandemic that only 99.85ish% of the people will survive. Damn Chinese and their bat soup eating habits!!
DasSheeple !XPQqN0U9Ew double-posted this 5 years ago, 2 minutes later, 2 months after the original post[^] [v] #1,146,336
Also note that the flu season was so dramatic, EuroMOMO, while reporting correct numbers, decided to not zero the graphs at the X-axis, making the peek at this years flu season look twice as high that for example flu season 2017/2018, while in reality, we saw roughly 30% increase of dead people if you compare those two flu seasons.
So yeah, fuck off.
So yeah, fuck off.
Anonymous M replied with this 5 years ago, 2 hours later, 2 months after the original post[^] [v] #1,146,355
@1,146,006 (Fake anon !ZkUt8arUCU)
TOLD!
See: @1,146,334 (DasSheeple !XPQqN0U9Ew)
TOLD!
See: @1,146,334 (DasSheeple !XPQqN0U9Ew)
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Fake anon !ZkUt8arUCU replied with this 5 years ago, 6 hours later, 2 months after the original post[^] [v] #1,146,379
@1,146,334 (DasSheeple !XPQqN0U9Ew)> Considering that you guys double count each case pretty much and that if you tested positive at some point in your life for covid19, when you eventually die, you'll be a covid19 death, you perhaps might get a sense as of why I don't take your numbers seriously.
What do you mean by "double counting", and how do you know that we do that for almost every case? Do you mean each death is counted twice, once as a regular death, and once as a COVID death? Even if that were true, and that is a pretty extreme supposition that makes no sense, that would get you to about 26,000 deaths in NY, double the 13k expected. They hit almost 39,000 deaths, meaning they would need to be triple counting each death. Unless I'm misunderstanding something here. And if you have 13,000 expected deaths, and every single one of those people were counted as a covid death erroneously, you still would need to explain the other 26k deaths. I just don't get your point here.
> One of the more reliable sources on mortality in different EU countries is EuroMOMO (https://euromomo.eu/graphs-and-maps).
> As you can see, yes, we had a bad flu season that hit some countries rather hard. But if you look at the time when it was the worst, and the reported numbers at that time vs. the death count now vs. reported numbers now, even you should be able to tell that the numbers don't add up.
Super great source, thank you. You are right, the numbers for a bad flu don't add up. Looking at this graph, I've circled in red the flu seasons over the past couple of years. Just like in the US, flu deaths begin around October (week 40) and taper off substantially by the end of April (week 16), usually peaking around the New Year. 2018 was unusually late and had sort of a double peak, but by week 11, it was beginning its decline. This is consistent with how it is historically. Almost no flu deaths are recorded in mid-late April anywhere in the Northern hemisphere. I don't have the exact statistics in front of me but it's less than 5% of annual flu deaths that occur at that point of the year. Circled in yellow is this year. Deaths did not peak until mid-late April. Which means that this is NOT just a bad flu. It is an entirely separate disease that killed more people in a shorter period of time at a different time of the year than the flu did. And that is with extreme lockdown measures in place that we do not take for the flu.
> We're not talking about 2-3-5% difference, were talking 40-100x higher radios of infected vs. dead, lowering the actual mortality of the virus to a shocking 0.1-0.2% and that's me being generous with rounding.
Can you rephrase this part? I don't get what point you're making here.
> Imagine a pandemic that only 99.85ish% of the people will survive. Damn Chinese and their bat soup eating habits!!
A pandemic that infects 100% of Europe and has kills "only" .15% of people would result in over 1 million Europeans dead from the virus.
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Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 5 years ago, 7 hours later, 2 months after the original post[^] [v] #1,146,499
Anonymous M replied with this 5 years ago, 1 hour later, 2 months after the original post[^] [v] #1,146,524
About a million cases in four days
7/20 (15 million?)
7/24 15,939,175
7/20 (15 million?)
7/24 15,939,175
dw joined in and replied with this 5 years ago, 45 minutes later, 2 months after the original post[^] [v] #1,146,532
@1,146,334 (DasSheeple !XPQqN0U9Ew)
are you saying that the coronavirus is not a coronavirus but a fluvirus??
are you saying that the coronavirus is not a coronavirus but a fluvirus??
chill dog !!81dzJNNYL replied with this 5 years ago, 58 minutes later, 2 months after the original post[^] [v] #1,146,540
@1,146,355 (M)
So you think it's harmless but you still think it's so dangerous that you refuse to get a job in case you infect your mom? Lmao
So you think it's harmless but you still think it's so dangerous that you refuse to get a job in case you infect your mom? Lmao
chill dog !!81dzJNNYL double-posted this 5 years ago, 5 minutes later, 2 months after the original post[^] [v] #1,146,541
@1,146,336 (DasSheeple !XPQqN0U9Ew)
It's actually normal practice to not zero the y-axis when all your data falls above a given value in order to show detail better. It's for higher resolution, not to make the peaks more dramatic. It is expected that people are able to read the y-axis values.
It's actually normal practice to not zero the y-axis when all your data falls above a given value in order to show detail better. It's for higher resolution, not to make the peaks more dramatic. It is expected that people are able to read the y-axis values.
Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 5 years ago, 7 hours later, 2 months after the original post[^] [v] #1,146,693
16 million - 25th of July 2020
DasSheeple !XPQqN0U9Ew replied with this 5 years ago, 2 hours later, 2 months after the original post[^] [v] #1,146,708
@1,146,541 (chill dog !!81dzJNNYL)Sure, when you're nVidia trying to show how much you're beating AMD in some obscure benchmark... so you set the X-Axis at 57, and show how AMD has 58 FPS and you have 60 FPS... WOW WOW, SUCH HIGH BARS, MUCH FPS!! Lol, please...
@1,146,532 (dw)
I'm saying Covid19 is just another strain of viruses that will hit us seasonally and cause complications with some people just at any other virus we categorize as "the flu". Protip: Covid19 isn't the only virus in the corona family, and some of the viruses we categorize every year as "the flu" are also from the corona virus family.
@1,146,379 (Fake anon !ZkUt8arUCU)
> What do you mean by "double counting", and how do you know that we do that for almost every case? Do you mean each death is counted twice, once as a regular death, and once as a COVID death? Even if that were true, and that is a pretty extreme supposition that makes no sense, that would get you to about 26,000 deaths in NY, double the 13k expected. They hit almost 39,000 deaths, meaning they would need to be triple counting each death. Unless I'm misunderstanding something here. And if you have 13,000 expected deaths, and every single one of those people were counted as a covid death erroneously, you still would need to explain the other 26k deaths. I just don't get your point here.
I will skip this part, let's keep it simple and walk you into this step by step, one fact at a time. We will talk about this at the end of the year when CDC publishes yearly mortality/natality numbers, then we'll cross reference them with these and you'll see some things don't match up. But for now, you are right, these numbers look horrible and according to them, we have the black plague.
> Super great source, thank you. You are right, the numbers for a bad flu don't add up. Looking at this graph, I've circled in red the flu seasons over the past couple of years. Just like in the US, flu deaths begin around October (week 40) and taper off substantially by the end of April (week 16), usually peaking around the New Year. 2018 was unusually late and had sort of a double peak, but by week 11, it was beginning its decline. This is consistent with how it is historically. Almost no flu deaths are recorded in mid-late April anywhere in the Northern hemisphere. I don't have the exact statistics in front of me but it's less than 5% of annual flu deaths that occur at that point of the year. Circled in yellow is this year. Deaths did not peak until mid-late April. Which means that this is NOT just a bad flu. It is an entirely separate disease that killed more people in a shorter period of time at a different time of the year than the flu did. And that is with extreme lockdown measures in place that we do not take for the flu.
I wish we could go back further in time, then you'd see there were anomalies like this already. It all depends on a few factores, with the weather being one of them (this winter was super mild, that's why flu season kicked in later, and the two peaks two years before can be explained by the cold wave we experienced that year at the end of February...)
> Can you rephrase this part? I don't get what point you're making here.
I can do even better, here is a graph showing what I meant. So from the time the mortality came down to normal levels up until today, Europe had a bit over 1 mil new cases. 1 million cases didn't even make a dent in Europes mortality... how is that possible? So either the numbers during peak-death times are wrong, or Covid19 isn't the reason for the spike in dead people during March/April.
And here are some more fun numbers. Croatia had roughly 1500ish "infected" people sometimes mid april when the government decided they will elect a bit less than 2000 random people, and do serological tests to see how many people already had contact with Covid19.
Results came in: 2.4% of the tested had antibodies for Covid19.
2.4% of 4.5mil population is a bit over 100k people.
And remember, official numbers said that we had 1500ish cases up to that point.
This is the discrepancy I am talking about. Official numbers weren't misaligned by a few %, they were misaligned by the factor of almost 70. That's a huge amount if you are using those numbers to figure out the mortality of a virus.
At that time we had 20sih dead, round it up to 20 for the sake of calculating.
Official numbers => 20 dead out of 1500 infected = virus mortality is 1.34%
Serological testing numbers => 20 dead out of 100k infected = 0.02% mortality
I was careful in the beginning, remember the news of chinks dropping dead on the streets etc? Yeah, I didn't wanna be one of those who drop dead from the kung-flu. But the more reliable data we have, the more relaxed I am. This con should have ended 4 months ago latest, by then we already new everything. But yeah, let's crash the economy and force people to wear masks because we don't wanna admit we overreacted in the beginning.
> A pandemic that infects 100% of Europe and has kills "only" .15% of people would result in over 1 million Europeans dead from the virus.
That's me being generous with the mortality, in reality it would be roughly 150-200k, and their average age would be a tiny bit lower than their expected age of living. And no, I am not saying "lol I don't care if old people die", I care, and for that reason I minimized the exposure for my grandparents. They get groceries and medicine delivered home, so they don't need to mingle around the most exposed folks (cashiers). And that's the course we should have taken over 4 months ago, shelter the weak and high risk folks, business as usual for the rest.
Thanks for reading it all, enjoy your day.
dw replied with this 5 years ago, 41 minutes later, 2 months after the original post[^] [v] #1,146,715
@previous (DasSheeple !XPQqN0U9Ew)
its way worse than the flu though also why do you keep calling it a flu it's not
its way worse than the flu though also why do you keep calling it a flu it's not
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Anonymous M replied with this 5 years ago, 24 minutes later, 2 months after the original post[^] [v] #1,146,718
@1,146,708 (DasSheeple !XPQqN0U9Ew)
So...in your opinion 643,872 deaths in 6 months from something is of little significance.
OK
So...in your opinion 643,872 deaths in 6 months from something is of little significance.
OK
DasSheeple !XPQqN0U9Ew replied with this 5 years ago, 23 seconds later, 2 months after the original post[^] [v] #1,146,719
DasSheeple !XPQqN0U9Ew double-posted this 5 years ago, 2 minutes later, 2 months after the original post[^] [v] #1,146,720
@1,146,718 (M)
Take a look at the graph I posted and explain how a million cases didn't cause a spike i Europes mortality. Until then I'll reply with something classy like:
Lol that's not even 6 million.
Take a look at the graph I posted and explain how a million cases didn't cause a spike i Europes mortality. Until then I'll reply with something classy like:
Lol that's not even 6 million.
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Anonymous M replied with this 5 years ago, 4 minutes later, 2 months after the original post[^] [v] #1,146,722
@previous (DasSheeple !XPQqN0U9Ew)
Its 643,872 deaths in 6 months out of the blue. THATS a fucking SPIKE.
Its 643,872 deaths in 6 months out of the blue. THATS a fucking SPIKE.
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dw replied with this 5 years ago, 4 minutes later, 2 months after the original post[^] [v] #1,146,723
Anonymous M replied with this 5 years ago, 3 minutes later, 2 months after the original post[^] [v] #1,146,724
Number of deaths for leading causes of death:
Heart disease: 647,457
Cancer: 599,108
Accidents (unintentional injuries): 169,936
Chronic lower respiratory diseases: 160,201
Stroke (cerebrovascular diseases): 146,383
Alzheimer’s disease: 121,404
Diabetes: 83,564
Influenza and Pneumonia: 55,672
Nephritis, nephrotic syndrome and nephrosis: 50,633
Intentional self-harm (suicide):
Heart disease: 647,457
Cancer: 599,108
Accidents (unintentional injuries): 169,936
Chronic lower respiratory diseases: 160,201
Stroke (cerebrovascular diseases): 146,383
Alzheimer’s disease: 121,404
Diabetes: 83,564
Influenza and Pneumonia: 55,672
Nephritis, nephrotic syndrome and nephrosis: 50,633
Intentional self-harm (suicide):
When the figures are compiled at the end of 2020...coronavirus is expected to be high on that list.
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DasSheeple !XPQqN0U9Ew replied with this 5 years ago, 57 minutes later, 2 months after the original post[^] [v] #1,146,733
@1,146,722 (M)
Numbers out of his anus. Look at the graph I posted you fucking dingus... since the pandemic started until the spike ended, Europe had 2 million officially ill people and 170k excess deaths. That's the period from the begining of the pandemic until I drew the red vertical line. After the line we had 1050000 more cases but 0 excess deaths.
Tell me how 2 million cases can cause 170k dead, but then a million cases cause 0 deaths?
@1,146,723 (dw)
30% increased mortality compared to other flu seasons, not 30% more people who were killed solely by covid19.
Numbers out of his anus. Look at the graph I posted you fucking dingus... since the pandemic started until the spike ended, Europe had 2 million officially ill people and 170k excess deaths. That's the period from the begining of the pandemic until I drew the red vertical line. After the line we had 1050000 more cases but 0 excess deaths.
Tell me how 2 million cases can cause 170k dead, but then a million cases cause 0 deaths?
@1,146,723 (dw)
30% increased mortality compared to other flu seasons, not 30% more people who were killed solely by covid19.
Fake anon !ZkUt8arUCU replied with this 5 years ago, 5 minutes later, 2 months after the original post[^] [v] #1,146,735
@1,146,708 (DasSheeple !XPQqN0U9Ew)
> I will skip this part, let's keep it simple and walk you into this step by step, one fact at a time. We will talk about this at the end of the year when CDC publishes yearly mortality/natality numbers, then we'll cross reference them with these and you'll see some things don't match up. But for now, you are right, these numbers look horrible and according to them, we have the black plague.
If the data that proves this is true has not been published, then I'm worried about your reasoning abilities when you say you know for a fact this is true. The study that I'm quoting is pulling its data directly from the CDC. Thinking that the end of the year numbers are going to be different on any substantive level is wishful thinking at best, man.
> I wish we could go back further in time, then you'd see there were anomalies like this already. It all depends on a few factores, with the weather being one of them (this winter was super mild, that's why flu season kicked in later, and the two peaks two years before can be explained by the cold wave we experienced that year at the end of February...)
Find me one year in which the flu had deaths that peaked in late April. Didn't happen in 1918 when 50 million people died, didn't happen in 1957 or 1968 outbreaks, etc. These deaths are not caused by a strain of the flu dude. It's caused by COVID-19.
> So from the time the mortality came down to normal levels up until today, Europe had a bit over 1 mil new cases. 1 million cases didn't even make a dent in Europes mortality... how is that possible? So either the numbers during peak-death times are wrong, or Covid19 isn't the reason for the spike in dead people during March/April.
Or...severe lockdowns were implemented broadly across Europe that slowed the spread of the disease and prevented local hospitals from being overwhelmed, thus lowering the CFR. As those restrictions are eased, you will see cases rise, followed a couple of weeks by the number of deaths starting to rise as well. This is a very weak argument.
> This con should have ended 4 months ago latest, by then we already new everything. But yeah, let's crash the economy and force people to wear masks because we don't wanna admit we overreacted in the beginning.
4 months ago puts us at the end of March (week 11), which is right at the time when deaths started to go from slightly above the baseline (56,000/week) to the massive spike in the chart you see (Week 14 w/ 88,000 dead). I have no idea where you are getting your ideas from but they are not remotely matched by the data you put in front of me.
> hat's me being generous with the mortality, in reality it would be roughly 150-200k
The death toll for all of Europe (incl. Russia) as of right now is over 200k. What are you talking about dude?
> I will skip this part, let's keep it simple and walk you into this step by step, one fact at a time. We will talk about this at the end of the year when CDC publishes yearly mortality/natality numbers, then we'll cross reference them with these and you'll see some things don't match up. But for now, you are right, these numbers look horrible and according to them, we have the black plague.
If the data that proves this is true has not been published, then I'm worried about your reasoning abilities when you say you know for a fact this is true. The study that I'm quoting is pulling its data directly from the CDC. Thinking that the end of the year numbers are going to be different on any substantive level is wishful thinking at best, man.
> I wish we could go back further in time, then you'd see there were anomalies like this already. It all depends on a few factores, with the weather being one of them (this winter was super mild, that's why flu season kicked in later, and the two peaks two years before can be explained by the cold wave we experienced that year at the end of February...)
Find me one year in which the flu had deaths that peaked in late April. Didn't happen in 1918 when 50 million people died, didn't happen in 1957 or 1968 outbreaks, etc. These deaths are not caused by a strain of the flu dude. It's caused by COVID-19.
> So from the time the mortality came down to normal levels up until today, Europe had a bit over 1 mil new cases. 1 million cases didn't even make a dent in Europes mortality... how is that possible? So either the numbers during peak-death times are wrong, or Covid19 isn't the reason for the spike in dead people during March/April.
Or...severe lockdowns were implemented broadly across Europe that slowed the spread of the disease and prevented local hospitals from being overwhelmed, thus lowering the CFR. As those restrictions are eased, you will see cases rise, followed a couple of weeks by the number of deaths starting to rise as well. This is a very weak argument.
> This con should have ended 4 months ago latest, by then we already new everything. But yeah, let's crash the economy and force people to wear masks because we don't wanna admit we overreacted in the beginning.
4 months ago puts us at the end of March (week 11), which is right at the time when deaths started to go from slightly above the baseline (56,000/week) to the massive spike in the chart you see (Week 14 w/ 88,000 dead). I have no idea where you are getting your ideas from but they are not remotely matched by the data you put in front of me.
> hat's me being generous with the mortality, in reality it would be roughly 150-200k
The death toll for all of Europe (incl. Russia) as of right now is over 200k. What are you talking about dude?
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DasSheeple !XPQqN0U9Ew replied with this 5 years ago, 16 minutes later, 2 months after the original post[^] [v] #1,146,740
@previous (Fake anon !ZkUt8arUCU)
> didnt explain how 2 mil cases cause 170k excess deaths but 1mil cases cause 0 exces deaths
> focuses on unreliable and flawed data
> doesn't know the difference between died with covid19 and died from covid19
> incl. Russia
Thanks, no thanks.
> didnt explain how 2 mil cases cause 170k excess deaths but 1mil cases cause 0 exces deaths
> focuses on unreliable and flawed data
> doesn't know the difference between died with covid19 and died from covid19
> incl. Russia
Thanks, no thanks.
Fake anon !ZkUt8arUCU replied with this 5 years ago, 6 minutes later, 2 months after the original post[^] [v] #1,146,745
@previous (DasSheeple !XPQqN0U9Ew)
I literally did explain that. I am relying mostly on the data you gave me, or from the sources you think are good (CDC). I do know those distinctions, and you have never once even attempted to prove the main thesis of your argument beyond bare assertions and handwaving ("the data will prove my point eventually"). The second you want to show me an influenza virus that kills people primarily in late April, or show how a virus that has already killed nearly killed 200k Europeans in half a year will magically result in 150-200k deaths total, I'll engage with you more. You're just ducking out because you can't back up your assertions. That's fine, but spinning this like I'm the one who's wrong is really weak.
I literally did explain that. I am relying mostly on the data you gave me, or from the sources you think are good (CDC). I do know those distinctions, and you have never once even attempted to prove the main thesis of your argument beyond bare assertions and handwaving ("the data will prove my point eventually"). The second you want to show me an influenza virus that kills people primarily in late April, or show how a virus that has already killed nearly killed 200k Europeans in half a year will magically result in 150-200k deaths total, I'll engage with you more. You're just ducking out because you can't back up your assertions. That's fine, but spinning this like I'm the one who's wrong is really weak.
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Anonymous T replied with this 5 years ago, 4 minutes later, 2 months after the original post[^] [v] #1,146,747
@previous (Fake anon !ZkUt8arUCU)
I am glad you're here. I have nowhere near the knowledge and patience needed to unpick and debunk DasSheeple's densely-packed conspiracy theory bullshit. The man paragon of the phrase "it is much easier to produce bullshit than it is to disprove it".
I am glad you're here. I have nowhere near the knowledge and patience needed to unpick and debunk DasSheeple's densely-packed conspiracy theory bullshit. The man paragon of the phrase "it is much easier to produce bullshit than it is to disprove it".
Anonymous M replied with this 5 years ago, 50 seconds later, 2 months after the original post[^] [v] #1,146,748
@1,146,733 (DasSheeple !XPQqN0U9Ew)
People dont die from the virus instantly. It takes time for the data to be updated.
People dont die from the virus instantly. It takes time for the data to be updated.
DasSheeple !XPQqN0U9Ew replied with this 5 years ago, 2 minutes later, 2 months after the original post[^] [v] #1,146,750
@1,146,745 (Fake anon !ZkUt8arUCU)
Never were our hospitals crowded, and crediting not crowded hospitals caused by lockdowns for lowering the mortality rate of the virus from 2-3% to 0 is pants on head retarded when you take Sweden into consideration that had no lockdown.
You fail to acknowledge one huge misalignment in the official numbers but expect me to waste my energy on explaining to you why and how CDC numbers are flawed... thanks, but nope. It's like explaining graph theory to someone who claims he can count to potato.
Never were our hospitals crowded, and crediting not crowded hospitals caused by lockdowns for lowering the mortality rate of the virus from 2-3% to 0 is pants on head retarded when you take Sweden into consideration that had no lockdown.
You fail to acknowledge one huge misalignment in the official numbers but expect me to waste my energy on explaining to you why and how CDC numbers are flawed... thanks, but nope. It's like explaining graph theory to someone who claims he can count to potato.
Anonymous M replied with this 5 years ago, 13 minutes later, 2 months after the original post[^] [v] #1,146,754
@previous (DasSheeple !XPQqN0U9Ew)
Sweden only has 10 million people in an area of 173,860 square miles.
Hotspots are about density and lack of social distancing.
Sweden only has 10 million people in an area of 173,860 square miles.
Hotspots are about density and lack of social distancing.
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chill dog !!81dzJNNYL replied with this 5 years ago, 44 minutes later, 2 months after the original post[^] [v] #1,146,758
@1,146,747 (T)
I second your sentiments.
@1,146,722 (M)
Why are you against masks if you ackowledge the virus is a threat? I don't understand that.
I second your sentiments.
@1,146,722 (M)
Why are you against masks if you ackowledge the virus is a threat? I don't understand that.
Fake anon !ZkUt8arUCU replied with this 5 years ago, 25 minutes later, 2 months after the original post[^] [v] #1,146,771
@1,146,750 (DasSheeple !XPQqN0U9Ew)
The mortality rate isn't 0. People are dying every day from the virus, it's just substantially lower than it was when people were going about their normal lives freely and total case numbers were extremely high. And there clearly was an undercount of cases before, where we were only catching the most severe cases, and letting the more mild ones go by undetected. I think you will remember how hard it was to get a test at the peak of the pandemic, and how high the death toll was then. The UK for example on April 28th was testing .71 people per thousand, and had a 15% positive rate. Today they're testing 1.8 people per thousand, and have a positive test rate of about 0.5%. From that it's pretty clear that there was a dramatic undercount of total cases at the peak, and a much better count of cases now. Which makes sense. Assuming the current testing and death rate in Europe (minus Russia) continues, which is roughly 250 deaths and 11k new cases per day, you're looking at around 40k more dead by the end of the year. That's a lot of people dead, and there's no guarantee it stays this low indefinitely, though I of course hope it does.
> You fail to acknowledge one huge misalignment in the official numbers but expect me to waste my energy on explaining to you why and how CDC numbers are flawed.
You keep referring to these flaws in the data very vaguely. What, specifically is this "misalignment"? I can't understand the argument you are making if you refuse to even tell me what it is.
The mortality rate isn't 0. People are dying every day from the virus, it's just substantially lower than it was when people were going about their normal lives freely and total case numbers were extremely high. And there clearly was an undercount of cases before, where we were only catching the most severe cases, and letting the more mild ones go by undetected. I think you will remember how hard it was to get a test at the peak of the pandemic, and how high the death toll was then. The UK for example on April 28th was testing .71 people per thousand, and had a 15% positive rate. Today they're testing 1.8 people per thousand, and have a positive test rate of about 0.5%. From that it's pretty clear that there was a dramatic undercount of total cases at the peak, and a much better count of cases now. Which makes sense. Assuming the current testing and death rate in Europe (minus Russia) continues, which is roughly 250 deaths and 11k new cases per day, you're looking at around 40k more dead by the end of the year. That's a lot of people dead, and there's no guarantee it stays this low indefinitely, though I of course hope it does.
> You fail to acknowledge one huge misalignment in the official numbers but expect me to waste my energy on explaining to you why and how CDC numbers are flawed.
You keep referring to these flaws in the data very vaguely. What, specifically is this "misalignment"? I can't understand the argument you are making if you refuse to even tell me what it is.
dw replied with this 5 years ago, 13 minutes later, 2 months after the original post[^] [v] #1,146,773
At least we can all agree that the holocaust occured right sheep
blom replied with this 5 years ago, 1 hour later, 2 months after the original post[^] [v] #1,146,826
I set dassheeple to ignore 7 years ago and my only regret is that people will quote him in threads.
Anonymous Z-3 joined in and replied with this 5 years ago, 18 minutes later, 2 months after the original post[^] [v] #1,146,831
@1,146,754 (M)
> Sweden only has 10 million people in an area of 173,860 square miles.
> Hotspots are about density and lack of social distancing.
China found that 80% of infections occur inside the family home.
Pretty much zero countries have the population spread out evenly. In a low population, large country (say, Australia) they have these things called towns and cities. You may have heard of them. Have a look on Google maps at some towns and cities around the world. Notice anything? With the exception of three cities (New York, Singapore and Hong Kong) houses are roughly the same distance between each other.
I repeat for the slow learners:
Houses are not spread out evenly throughout a country.
> Sweden only has 10 million people in an area of 173,860 square miles.
> Hotspots are about density and lack of social distancing.
China found that 80% of infections occur inside the family home.
Pretty much zero countries have the population spread out evenly. In a low population, large country (say, Australia) they have these things called towns and cities. You may have heard of them. Have a look on Google maps at some towns and cities around the world. Notice anything? With the exception of three cities (New York, Singapore and Hong Kong) houses are roughly the same distance between each other.
I repeat for the slow learners:
Houses are not spread out evenly throughout a country.
ftd !Cs02iDB7RA (OP) replied with this 5 years ago, 3 days later, 2 months after the original post[^] [v] #1,148,133
17 mil - 29th of July 2020 bbz