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Topic: Father Merrin

Apocalypse Indy !bYobIzYIFE started this discussion 5 years ago #99,516

Is owning guns a sin?

Father Merrin !u5oFWxmY7U joined in and replied with this 5 years ago, 5 minutes later[^] [v] #1,122,858

No. Shooting somebody with one is.

Apocalypse Indy !bYobIzYIFE (OP) replied with this 5 years ago, 1 minute later, 7 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #1,122,859

@previous (Father Merrin !u5oFWxmY7U)
What if they are actively attacking you and trying to kill you?

Father Merrin !u5oFWxmY7U replied with this 5 years ago, 4 minutes later, 11 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #1,122,860

@previous (Apocalypse Indy !bYobIzYIFE)

> What if they are actively attacking you and trying to kill you?

Why are "they" actively trying to kill you?

Apocalypse Indy !bYobIzYIFE (OP) replied with this 5 years ago, 3 minutes later, 15 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #1,122,861

@previous (Father Merrin !u5oFWxmY7U)
Let’s say they are robbing your house at night, and you catch them, and now they are trying to kill you to prevent any witnesses. You have a pistol in your nightstand.

jodi !ariasXXmaE joined in and replied with this 5 years ago, 43 seconds later, 16 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #1,122,862

@previous (Apocalypse Indy !bYobIzYIFE)
is that where you keep mcwalther

Apocalypse Indy !bYobIzYIFE (OP) replied with this 5 years ago, 1 minute later, 17 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #1,122,864

@previous (jodi !ariasXXmaE)
Yes. Where do you keep Little Indy?

Father Merrin !u5oFWxmY7U replied with this 5 years ago, 22 seconds later, 17 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #1,122,865

@1,122,861 (Apocalypse Indy !bYobIzYIFE)

> Let’s say they are robbing your house at night, and you catch them, and now they are trying to kill you to prevent any witnesses. You have a pistol in your nightstand.

What do you mean "trying to kill you"? It's an odd scenario you paint. Your gun is in a drawer and these thieves are "trying to kill you". Why haven't they killed you already if that's their intention and they have the means to do so?

Apocalypse Indy !bYobIzYIFE (OP) replied with this 5 years ago, 2 minutes later, 20 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #1,122,866

@previous (Father Merrin !u5oFWxmY7U)
Just go with the hypothetical man. Imagine a scenario where you have a gun and a thief is running toward you with his own gun shouting “I will kill you!” You have one moment to pull your trigger in self defense. Is that a sin?

Father Merrin !u5oFWxmY7U replied with this 5 years ago, 3 minutes later, 23 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #1,122,867

@previous (Apocalypse Indy !bYobIzYIFE)

> Just go with the hypothetical man. Imagine a scenario where you have a gun and a thief is running toward you with his own gun shouting “I will kill you!” You have one moment to pull your trigger in self defense. Is that a sin?

That's an entirely different scenario to the one you initially gave. Let's do one at a time. Your first situation had your gun in a drawer (now you have it in your hand!) and some people intent on killing you. So I again ask you to answer the question: why haven't they killed you already, if that was their intention?

If you can't answer the question, that's quite alright. Just say so.

Apocalypse Indy !bYobIzYIFE (OP) replied with this 5 years ago, 6 minutes later, 29 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #1,122,868

@previous (Father Merrin !u5oFWxmY7U)
Ok, because it is their first heist, and, while they intend to kill you, they are really nervous about it, so they are building up the nerve to do it.

Apocalypse Indy !bYobIzYIFE (OP) double-posted this 5 years ago, 47 seconds later, 30 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #1,122,870

@1,122,867 (Father Merrin !u5oFWxmY7U)
You are being much too literalistic. I am asking if it is a sin to shoot someone if they are threatening your life.

Father Merrin !u5oFWxmY7U replied with this 5 years ago, 9 minutes later, 40 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #1,122,878

@1,122,868 (Apocalypse Indy !bYobIzYIFE)

> Ok, because it is their first heist, and, while they intend to kill you, they are really nervous about it, so they are building up the nerve to do it.

And your gun is in a drawer, yes?

Father Merrin !u5oFWxmY7U double-posted this 5 years ago, 50 seconds later, 41 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #1,122,880

@1,122,870 (Apocalypse Indy !bYobIzYIFE)

> I am asking if it is a sin to shoot someone if they are threatening your life.

Now you may be asking that, but initially you weren't. We priests prefer to answer one question before moving on to another.

Apocalypse Indy !bYobIzYIFE (OP) replied with this 5 years ago, 43 minutes later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #1,122,931

@1,122,878 (Father Merrin !u5oFWxmY7U)
Yes

Father Merrin !u5oFWxmY7U replied with this 5 years ago, 3 minutes later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #1,122,935

@previous (Apocalypse Indy !bYobIzYIFE)
If your gun is in a drawer (some protection LOL!), and they clearly don't want to kill you or else they'd have done it already, then I think I need to talk you through what to say to them. So, first things first, have they already taken from you what they wanted to take?

Apocalypse Indy !bYobIzYIFE (OP) replied with this 5 years ago, 3 minutes later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #1,122,943

@previous (Father Merrin !u5oFWxmY7U)
Forget everything. I recant. Only one question: can I shoot someone who is actively trying to kill me?

Father Merrin !u5oFWxmY7U replied with this 5 years ago, 6 minutes later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #1,122,950

@previous (Apocalypse Indy !bYobIzYIFE)

> Forget everything.

I'm afraid we can't forget everything. Gun ownership and usage requires responsibility. In your scenario, you have bought 3 guns, left them all in drawers, and now the only reason you're alive is because the people who are robbing you are hesitant about killing you. You spent all that money only to end up at the mercy of some robbers who are choosing to let you live.

So I again ask you: would you like me to talk you through what to say to them, given how vulnerable you are?

Apocalypse Indy !bYobIzYIFE (OP) replied with this 5 years ago, 6 minutes later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #1,122,960

@previous (Father Merrin !u5oFWxmY7U)
lol you are pretty funny sometimes

jodi !ariasXXmaE replied with this 5 years ago, 1 minute later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #1,122,962

@1,122,864 (Apocalypse Indy !bYobIzYIFE)
also in my nightstand

Father Merrin !u5oFWxmY7U replied with this 5 years ago, 4 minutes later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #1,122,966

@1,122,960 (Apocalypse Indy !bYobIzYIFE)
Can you not answer the question of why you spent so much money on guns only to end up at the mercy of robbers who are choosing not to kill you?

Apocalypse Indy !bYobIzYIFE (OP) replied with this 5 years ago, 1 minute later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #1,122,967

@previous (Father Merrin !u5oFWxmY7U)
lol

Apocalypse Indy !bYobIzYIFE (OP) double-posted this 5 years ago, 17 seconds later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #1,122,969

@1,122,962 (jodi !ariasXXmaE)
Great!

Anonymous D joined in and replied with this 5 years ago, 1 hour later, 3 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,122,992

Someone should make Merrin into a chatbot. I'd have fun talking it in circles all day.

Anonymous E joined in and replied with this 5 years ago, 44 minutes later, 3 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,123,002

@previous (D)
This site is the home of honest true Merrin, we don't need fake robot Merrin.

Father Merrin !u5oFWxmY7U replied with this 5 years ago, 8 hours later, 12 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,123,095

@previous (E)

> This site is the home of honest true Merrin, we don't need fake robot Merrin.

Bless you, friend!

Anonymous E replied with this 5 years ago, 1 day later, 2 days after the original post[^] [v] #1,123,808

@previous (Father Merrin !u5oFWxmY7U)

Bless you, Father.
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