Sheila LaBoof started this discussion 6 years ago#98,801
I don't mean he necessarily craves and gets pleasure from harming others. I don't mean that he has disposed of a few people somehow. Sociopaths that aren't badly treated in childhood can manage to work within society without slitting a few throats.
Apocalypse Indy !bYobIzYIFE joined in and replied with this 6 years ago, 1 minute later[^][v]#1,115,052
Probably, yes.
Anonymous C joined in and replied with this 6 years ago, 31 minutes later, 33 minutes after the original post[^][v]#1,115,058
He seems to be interested in passing off his being judgy and abusive as "therapy" for other people. I'm sure it makes for good reality TV, but it would be great if his shows started with the same "for entertainment purposes only" disclaimer as other cranks.
I'm worried that he confuses being popular on television with actually being successful at helping people. People who solve problems judge themselves by solutions, not ratings. I'm afraid that people who genuinely need help with mental or emotional issues will mistake what he does with what actual therapists do when they want to help problems solve problems.
chill dog !!81dzJNNYL joined in and replied with this 6 years ago, 21 minutes later, 54 minutes after the original post[^][v]#1,115,062
@previous (C)
Yeah, that's a genuine concern. I worry people get put off of the idea of therapy or mental health care because they see his show.
Anonymous E joined in and replied with this 6 years ago, 8 minutes later, 1 hour after the original post[^][v]#1,115,064
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Don't you dare tell me that real life isn't like what is on television. Don't you dare.
chill dog !!81dzJNNYL replied with this 6 years ago, 12 minutes later, 1 hour after the original post[^][v]#1,115,065
@previous (E)
You don't think it's possible that people will see someone with Dr. in their name saying he's providing therapy to people and will get the impression that real life therapy is like that?
Anonymous E replied with this 6 years ago, 3 minutes later, 1 hour after the original post[^][v]#1,115,066
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I don't think you understand that what is on the television is 100% true.
chill dog !!81dzJNNYL replied with this 6 years ago, 15 minutes later, 1 hour after the original post[^][v]#1,115,069
Anonymous C replied with this 6 years ago, 23 minutes later, 1 hour after the original post[^][v]#1,115,070
@1,115,062 (chill dog !!81dzJNNYL) > I worry people get put off of the idea of therapy or mental health care because they see his show.
Yep. Some kid suffering from depression or recovering from parental abuse isn't necessarily going to have the experience or wisdom to realize that what Dr. Phil does on TV isn't real, and they might get scared and try to avoid any offer by family or friends to get them help. If they think therapy or family counseling is just about being ridiculed or publicly shamed until you stop crying, then any real-world therapist or social worker has to work that much harder to try to establish any kind of trust.
chill dog !!81dzJNNYL replied with this 6 years ago, 1 minute later, 2 hours after the original post[^][v]#1,115,071
@previous (C)
And for a lot of people, that is their only exposure to "therapy". I wonder how many people have decided against seeking mental health care because of programs like that.
Anonymous F joined in and replied with this 6 years ago, 1 hour later, 3 hours after the original post[^][v]#1,115,084
Oh look, it's a bunch of dweebs who think they know more than a man who was licensed as a professional.
Killer Lettuce? !HonkUK.BIE joined in and replied with this 6 years ago, 14 minutes later, 3 hours after the original post[^][v]#1,115,086
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Agreed. If a reality TV President is good enough, then these uppity "dweebs" should accept a reality TV therapist too.
Apocalypse Indy !bYobIzYIFE replied with this 6 years ago, 3 hours later, 7 hours after the original post[^][v]#1,115,113
Is he even a real doctor?
Anonymous F replied with this 6 years ago, 50 minutes later, 8 hours after the original post[^][v]#1,115,121
chill dog !!81dzJNNYL replied with this 6 years ago, 2 hours later, 10 hours after the original post[^][v]#1,115,172
@1,115,084 (F)
Have you ever seen a therapist or mental health professional? It's not like Dr Phil. Dr Phil actually had to stop saying he was providing therapy, instead advertising that he gives "advice" as a layman iirc.
Anonymous F replied with this 6 years ago, 31 minutes later, 11 hours after the original post[^][v]#1,115,185
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I just looked at some vids and I thought that last one made him seem bizarre. It may have been edited.
I was joking around. I agree whole heartedly that Phil is a Grade A asshat.
And yes, I have seen more than one therapists. Not sure if it helped much.
chill dog !!81dzJNNYL replied with this 6 years ago, 3 minutes later, 11 hours after the original post[^][v]#1,115,186
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Eh in fairness you do have to find the right therapist for you. I've seen many and only two actually helped, but the help I got from those two is absolutely invaluable.
Anonymous C replied with this 6 years ago, 5 hours later, 16 hours after the original post[^][v]#1,115,300
@1,115,113 (Apocalypse Indy !bYobIzYIFE) > Is he even a real doctor?
He has a doctorate in clinical psychology, so technically yes. He's not licensed to practice psychology and he hasn't been for about 15 years. He's certainly not licensed to practice medicine or qualified to give medical advice. He has an advisory panel of doctors and lawyers that green light how far he can push his television shtick without violating any laws or overstepping the waivers everybody signs before appearing on his show. He's not an academic nor a practicing clinician and shouldn't be confused for one. Nowadays he's just a television personality who mostly sells his media influence along with some sponsored products.
Meta !Sober//iZs joined in and replied with this 6 years ago, 50 minutes later, 17 hours after the original post[^][v]#1,115,324
@previous (C)
Dr Phil is the thinking man's Jerry Springer ?
Anonymous F replied with this 6 years ago, 2 hours later, 19 hours after the original post[^][v]#1,115,407
@previous (Meta !Sober//iZs)
I'd trust Springer before Phil.