Anonymous B joined in and replied with this 6 years ago, 6 minutes later[^][v]#1,113,452
Something could be a moral crime without being a legal crime.
Sheila LaBoof (OP) replied with this 6 years ago, 1 hour later, 1 hour after the original post[^][v]#1,113,468
what the fuck is a "moral crime" though, independent of actual law, which ideally is itself based upon a sense of what is right and what is wrong
Anonymous C joined in and replied with this 6 years ago, 5 minutes later, 1 hour after the original post[^][v]#1,113,470
It was mostly legal
scatman !!C9h1vWLZ/ joined in and replied with this 6 years ago, 37 minutes later, 2 hours after the original post[^][v]#1,113,495
@OP
Such a thing is possible if one commits a crime so heinous and vile that it has yet to enter into the consciousness of law makers and law enforcers.
For instance, pretending to own high powered assault rifles guns online for the purpose of striking fear into your fellow posters could considered a crime not yet criminalized.
Apocalypse Indy™ !bYobIzYIFE joined in and replied with this 6 years ago, 1 minute later, 2 hours after the original post[^][v]#1,113,497
For example, the holocaust. It was perfectly legal under German law to execute the minorities. But we all recognise it now as a moral crime.
Sheila LaBoof (OP) replied with this 6 years ago, 39 minutes later, 6 hours after the original post[^][v]#1,113,671
@previous (B)
no I don't. because I am not familiar with that usage of the word "crime" which I reserve for the context of a legal code of conduct as defined in a given society. your usage seems to be "thing that is really bad that you shouldn't do"
Anonymous B replied with this 6 years ago, 14 minutes later, 6 hours after the original post[^][v]#1,113,697
But what if something is legal, and yet still so clearly constitutes an offence?
Sheila LaBoof (OP) replied with this 6 years ago, 7 hours later, 21 hours after the original post[^][v]#1,113,931
@previous (B)
then you might like to lobby your legislature to make it a crime
Some things that offend people greatly are not worthy of being made crimes I would say. If some fuckhead thinks its funny to fart at you or eat with disgusting noises for examples.
Anonymous B replied with this 6 years ago, 54 minutes later, 22 hours after the original post[^][v]#1,113,977
Okay but another example would be the holocaust. It was something that happened legally, but is still widely regarded as a crime (In fact this is why they created the notion of a 'crime against humanity' afterwards in otder to retroactively punish the crime).
By your definition, because the holocaust happened on German territory and was allowed by German law, it wasn't criminal.
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Sheila LaBoof (OP) replied with this 6 years ago, 1 hour later, 23 hours after the original post[^][v]#1,113,981
@previous (B)
whoever has the legal power determines what is and what is not a crime. it doesn't mean that's good. that's just the way it is. before we came up with ideas of law and order, cruelty was met with cruelty I imagine. Global society has evolved to a point where we have organisations external to countries that have been granted some authority, which might or might not be effective, to declare that a national power or people has behaved poorly.
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Anonymous B replied with this 6 years ago, 27 minutes later, 23 hours after the original post[^][v]#1,113,983
> whoever has the legal power determines what is and what is not a crime. it doesn't mean that's good. that's just the way it is.
Why do you think we felt the need to establish these extra-national councils?
Sheila LaBoof (OP) replied with this 6 years ago, 1 hour later, 1 day after the original post[^][v]#1,114,038
@previous (B)
I thought it was you who mentioned the notion of a crime against humanity. Who do you think administers that in practice? Certainly not within the jurisdiction where mass murder is lawfully carried out.
Anonymous B replied with this 6 years ago, 23 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^][v]#1,114,047
Anonymous G joined in and replied with this 6 years ago, 16 hours later, 2 days after the original post[^][v]#1,114,720
Just because Liberals dont feel like the illegals costing our economy 350,000,000,000 while only paying about 9,000,000,000 in taxes is a bad thing, that does mean illegals shouldn't be shot on sight in the street.