Topic: Discussing sensationalist fake news articles about nurses wearing "trash bags"
Anonymous A started this discussion 6 years ago #98,607
And immediately realizing that the original article being referenced by the sensationalist fake news is, in fact, about nurses wearing small, clearly marked, hazardous goods, clinical waste bags instead of hairnets.
It is not, in fact, about the nurses wearing standard issue blue plastic medical coveralls.
But people read "trash bags" in the headline, saw blue plastic medical coveralls, and decided they were wearing bin liners over their bodies.
Pointing out the difference in what has been reported and what Fake Newsers are choosing to believe, does not mean that the person pointing it out believes that all nurses in all the world at all times have all the PPE required.
Thanks
It is not, in fact, about the nurses wearing standard issue blue plastic medical coveralls.
But people read "trash bags" in the headline, saw blue plastic medical coveralls, and decided they were wearing bin liners over their bodies.
Pointing out the difference in what has been reported and what Fake Newsers are choosing to believe, does not mean that the person pointing it out believes that all nurses in all the world at all times have all the PPE required.
Thanks
Anonymous B joined in and replied with this 6 years ago, 2 minutes later[^] [v] #1,112,667
Which sensationalist headline got you so upset?
Anonymous C joined in and replied with this 6 years ago, 13 seconds later, 2 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #1,112,668
Kitotpt
Anonymous D joined in and replied with this 6 years ago, 2 minutes later, 4 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #1,112,672
@previous (C)
> Kitotpt
He just got his ass handed to him in the other thread so he's doing that trick of starting a new thread to try and regain control of the narrative.
> Kitotpt
He just got his ass handed to him in the other thread so he's doing that trick of starting a new thread to try and regain control of the narrative.
Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 6 years ago, 1 minute later, 6 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #1,112,674
@previous (D)
How many times do you need to tell people they are not wearing bin bags on their bodies, only to then get attacked for somehow implying that they have enough PPE?
How many times do you need to tell people they are not wearing bin bags on their bodies, only to then get attacked for somehow implying that they have enough PPE?
Anonymous C replied with this 6 years ago, 59 seconds later, 7 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #1,112,676
Killer Lettuce? !HonkUK.BIE joined in and replied with this 6 years ago, 13 seconds later, 7 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #1,112,677
I'm probably wasting my time talking about this with you any more, so I won't bother.
For anyone else, here's the article OP is referring to, I think. Decide for yourself- insidious fake news, or genuine problem facing British medical staff?
https://www.businessinsider.com/coronavirus-uk-nurses-forced-to-wear-bin-bags-test-positive-2020-4?r=US&IR=T
For anyone else, here's the article OP is referring to, I think. Decide for yourself- insidious fake news, or genuine problem facing British medical staff?
https://www.businessinsider.com/coronavirus-uk-nurses-forced-to-wear-bin-bags-test-positive-2020-4?r=US&IR=T
Anonymous C replied with this 6 years ago, 3 minutes later, 11 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #1,112,681
Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 6 years ago, 2 minutes later, 13 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #1,112,682
@1,112,677 (Killer Lettuce? !HonkUK.BIE)
Wait just a fucking minute, that link to the telegraph article has changed. The link now goes to a tribute page for front line staff, and not to the original article being cited.
Wait just a fucking minute, that link to the telegraph article has changed. The link now goes to a tribute page for front line staff, and not to the original article being cited.
Anonymous A (OP) double-posted this 6 years ago, 1 minute later, 14 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #1,112,683
It was a link to a telegraph article that had the picture of the nurses, and stated that they were wearing clinical waste bags on their heads and feet.
Anonymous A (OP) triple-posted this 6 years ago, 3 minutes later, 18 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #1,112,687
This is the article that business insider linked to originally
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2020/04/08/exclusive-three-nurses-forced-wear-bin-bags-ppe-shortage-test/
I simply pointed out that those are not "trash bags" on their bodies, as people were saying.
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2020/04/08/exclusive-three-nurses-forced-wear-bin-bags-ppe-shortage-test/
I simply pointed out that those are not "trash bags" on their bodies, as people were saying.
Killer Lettuce? !HonkUK.BIE replied with this 6 years ago, 1 minute later, 19 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #1,112,689
@1,112,682 (A)
@1,112,683 (A)
I don't know anything about a Telegraph article. That was the only article about PPE in that topic that I saw. I assumed that's what we were all talking about.
@1,112,681 (C)
Okay.
@1,112,683 (A)
I don't know anything about a Telegraph article. That was the only article about PPE in that topic that I saw. I assumed that's what we were all talking about.
@1,112,681 (C)
Okay.
Kook !!rcSrAtaAC joined in and replied with this 6 years ago, 14 seconds later, 19 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #1,112,690
Anonymous C replied with this 6 years ago, 51 seconds later, 20 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #1,112,691
Kook !!rcSrAtaAC replied with this 6 years ago, 1 minute later, 22 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #1,112,695
Killer Lettuce? !HonkUK.BIE replied with this 6 years ago, 2 minutes later, 24 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #1,112,698
@previous (Kook !!rcSrAtaAC)
Whatever they are, they aren't what the nurses should have and that is bad. Especially because they have tested positive for coronavirus.
Whatever they are, they aren't what the nurses should have and that is bad. Especially because they have tested positive for coronavirus.
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Anonymous C replied with this 6 years ago, 41 seconds later, 24 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #1,112,700
@1,112,695 (Kook !!rcSrAtaAC)
Thats what they use to line the bins with in hospitals, the only difference between them and regular liners is the labelling and warnings for people handling them.
Source, used to porter at an nhs hospital and food service at a private hospital
Thats what they use to line the bins with in hospitals, the only difference between them and regular liners is the labelling and warnings for people handling them.
Source, used to porter at an nhs hospital and food service at a private hospital
Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 6 years ago, 40 seconds later, 25 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #1,112,701
@1,112,695 (Kook !!rcSrAtaAC)It's the bags on their heads. Explaining to people that the blue coveralls aren't bin bags gets me dogpiled for that somehow meaning they have enough PPE
Anonymous C replied with this 6 years ago, 1 minute later, 27 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #1,112,703
Also nurses say those blue aprons are shit and not even good enough for making sandwiches with
Killer Lettuce? !HonkUK.BIE replied with this 6 years ago, 12 minutes later, 39 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #1,112,718
@1,112,701 (A)
No, you were "dogpiled" because your reaction to that article was to argue semantics over what types or bags those are, and then imply that it was okay anyway.
Everyone else, meanwhile, reacted by seeing this as indicating a dangerous lack of PPE. You fixating on exactly what the bags are instead makes it look like you don't care about or are in denial about the PPE shortages.
No, you were "dogpiled" because your reaction to that article was to argue semantics over what types or bags those are, and then imply that it was okay anyway.
Everyone else, meanwhile, reacted by seeing this as indicating a dangerous lack of PPE. You fixating on exactly what the bags are instead makes it look like you don't care about or are in denial about the PPE shortages.
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Fake anon !ZkUt8arUCU joined in and replied with this 6 years ago, 38 seconds later, 39 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #1,112,719
Ok so the Telegraph is kind of a shit tier tabloid newspaper as far as I can tell. So a sensationalist news source may have had a misleading, attention grabbing headline. Water remains wet, and I imagine, the sky remains blue. Here is the headline as it shows to me right now:
And as far as I can tell, what the headline says is true. You aren't contesting the fact that they are wearing bags on their head and feet, nor that those bags are typically used to line bins at the hospital. What is your point of contention with it? That The Telegraph is misleading people who read the first part of the headline, skip the second part, look at the picture and confuse the blue plastic on their body with the bin bags referred to in the headline?
Three nurses forced to wear bin bags because of PPE shortage test positive for coronavirus
Exclusive: Frontline workers were pictured wearing clinical waste bags on heads and feet at Northwick Park Hospital in Harrow last month
Exclusive: Frontline workers were pictured wearing clinical waste bags on heads and feet at Northwick Park Hospital in Harrow last month
And as far as I can tell, what the headline says is true. You aren't contesting the fact that they are wearing bags on their head and feet, nor that those bags are typically used to line bins at the hospital. What is your point of contention with it? That The Telegraph is misleading people who read the first part of the headline, skip the second part, look at the picture and confuse the blue plastic on their body with the bin bags referred to in the headline?
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Kook !!rcSrAtaAC replied with this 6 years ago, 5 minutes later, 44 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #1,112,726
Killer Lettuce? !HonkUK.BIE replied with this 6 years ago, 1 minute later, 46 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #1,112,727
Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 6 years ago, 32 seconds later, 46 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #1,112,729
@1,112,718 (Killer Lettuce? !HonkUK.BIE)
They probably are made out of the same plastic as trash bags, idk. And I was talking with Trip, who thought they were wearing trash bags on their bodies.
@1,112,719 (Fake anon !ZkUt8arUCU)
Yes, it's sensationalist bullshit. It doesn't mean I think all nurses have all the PPE they need
They probably are made out of the same plastic as trash bags, idk. And I was talking with Trip, who thought they were wearing trash bags on their bodies.
@1,112,719 (Fake anon !ZkUt8arUCU)
Yes, it's sensationalist bullshit. It doesn't mean I think all nurses have all the PPE they need
Anonymous H joined in and replied with this 6 years ago, 47 seconds later, 47 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #1,112,730
chill dog !!81dzJNNYL joined in and replied with this 6 years ago, 2 minutes later, 50 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #1,112,733
@1,112,729 (A)
You are correct, I conflated the article with other pictures I have seen of nurses wearing trash bags on their bodies. However, that does not really change anything.
You are correct, I conflated the article with other pictures I have seen of nurses wearing trash bags on their bodies. However, that does not really change anything.
Fake anon !ZkUt8arUCU replied with this 6 years ago, 2 minutes later, 52 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #1,112,734
@1,112,729 (A)
It's sensationalist because it's in a tabloid. I think tabloids suck and I don't read them. Getting mad at a tabloid for being sensationalist is like being mad at pornography for being lascivious. It's just kind of the nature of the beast, and you have to know what you're getting yourself into when you look at it. If you were to go to the Daily Mail, NY Post, NY Daily News, National Enquirer, whatever, you would find headlines similarly attention grabbing and misleading. Sensationalist or misleading headlines on news orgs that like to tell themselves they are serious news outlets are one thing. This seems to be just not outrageous, especially because if you read the headlines and look at the photos in full, the words as written on the page are true.
It's sensationalist because it's in a tabloid. I think tabloids suck and I don't read them. Getting mad at a tabloid for being sensationalist is like being mad at pornography for being lascivious. It's just kind of the nature of the beast, and you have to know what you're getting yourself into when you look at it. If you were to go to the Daily Mail, NY Post, NY Daily News, National Enquirer, whatever, you would find headlines similarly attention grabbing and misleading. Sensationalist or misleading headlines on news orgs that like to tell themselves they are serious news outlets are one thing. This seems to be just not outrageous, especially because if you read the headlines and look at the photos in full, the words as written on the page are true.
Killer Lettuce? !HonkUK.BIE replied with this 6 years ago, 11 minutes later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #1,112,737
@1,112,719 (Fake anon !ZkUt8arUCU)
@previous (Fake anon !ZkUt8arUCU)
The Telegraph isn't a tabloid, it's a broadsheet. It's generally considered to be of a higher overall quality than the likes of The Sun or The Daily Mail.
Granted, that doesn't make them exempt from sensationalism. My rag of choice, The Guardian, has certainly had the occasional headline that might've been a bit misleading.
@previous (Fake anon !ZkUt8arUCU)
The Telegraph isn't a tabloid, it's a broadsheet. It's generally considered to be of a higher overall quality than the likes of The Sun or The Daily Mail.
Granted, that doesn't make them exempt from sensationalism. My rag of choice, The Guardian, has certainly had the occasional headline that might've been a bit misleading.
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Anonymous H replied with this 6 years ago, 1 minute later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #1,112,738
Fake anon !ZkUt8arUCU replied with this 6 years ago, 1 minute later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #1,112,739
@1,112,737 (Killer Lettuce? !HonkUK.BIE)
Is it really? I've only ever seen tabloid-y stuff from them! Lmao well then I take back some of my criticisms. It was a confusing/misleading headline for an actual news org to be running.
Is it really? I've only ever seen tabloid-y stuff from them! Lmao well then I take back some of my criticisms. It was a confusing/misleading headline for an actual news org to be running.
tteh !MemesToDNA joined in and replied with this 6 years ago, 8 hours later, 9 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,112,895
They are wearing bin bags: bags used to line (clinical waste) bins.
I'm not sure what's upsetting you about this reporting - a headline can only fit so many details.
I'm not sure what's upsetting you about this reporting - a headline can only fit so many details.