Topic: How I make antiviral sanitizer at home.
Anonymous A started this discussion 6 years ago #98,541
Step 1 would be to do your own damn research on ozone as a disinfectant.
After that you need an ozone generator. The one I have cost $50 shipped to me from China. It's a 400mg-600mg generator, and that's strong to be using in an average sized room.
It comes with a hose and bubble stone, and has a built in air pump. It's basically what you use to oxygenate an aquarium, but has a high voltage discharge on the air intake that converts the oxygen in the air to ozone.
I put the hose into the bottom of a tall bottle of boiled or bottled chlorine free water, and run the generator for an hour. You want the bubbles to be as small as possible, and to rise up through the water for as long as possible to dissolve into the water. The off gas of undissolved ozone fills and disinfects the room while this is happening, and a generator producing more ozone would make the room uninhabitable for a short time. The water is then an active sanitizer, (after the microbial and viral load of the water is reduced by the ozone, hence the bottled or boiled water) and will be effective for some time but has a half life of around 20 minutes.
Without a dissolved ozone test kit and actually knowing the ppm of ozone in the water, finding the CT value of disinfection is impossible. But you would only need that if you knew the loading that you were trying to kill anyway, and then time your application for the concentration and load.
As it is I use clean chlorine free water, set the timer to it's one hour maximum, and instead of venting the off gas I use it to disinfect the room (I have worked with ozone for many years, and am extremely comfortable in concentrations above OSHA standards btw) and I use the ozonated water to disinfect things like door handles, the interior of my car, and food packaging from the supermarket. All the while the ozone off gas is disinfecting all the surfaces it touches, the air, my aircon unit, etc.
Thanks for reading my presentation on ozone gas as an antiviral sanitizer. Also, it's important to point out that the corona-discharge generator came from Wuhan in some sort of ironic twist.
After that you need an ozone generator. The one I have cost $50 shipped to me from China. It's a 400mg-600mg generator, and that's strong to be using in an average sized room.
It comes with a hose and bubble stone, and has a built in air pump. It's basically what you use to oxygenate an aquarium, but has a high voltage discharge on the air intake that converts the oxygen in the air to ozone.
I put the hose into the bottom of a tall bottle of boiled or bottled chlorine free water, and run the generator for an hour. You want the bubbles to be as small as possible, and to rise up through the water for as long as possible to dissolve into the water. The off gas of undissolved ozone fills and disinfects the room while this is happening, and a generator producing more ozone would make the room uninhabitable for a short time. The water is then an active sanitizer, (after the microbial and viral load of the water is reduced by the ozone, hence the bottled or boiled water) and will be effective for some time but has a half life of around 20 minutes.
Without a dissolved ozone test kit and actually knowing the ppm of ozone in the water, finding the CT value of disinfection is impossible. But you would only need that if you knew the loading that you were trying to kill anyway, and then time your application for the concentration and load.
As it is I use clean chlorine free water, set the timer to it's one hour maximum, and instead of venting the off gas I use it to disinfect the room (I have worked with ozone for many years, and am extremely comfortable in concentrations above OSHA standards btw) and I use the ozonated water to disinfect things like door handles, the interior of my car, and food packaging from the supermarket. All the while the ozone off gas is disinfecting all the surfaces it touches, the air, my aircon unit, etc.
Thanks for reading my presentation on ozone gas as an antiviral sanitizer. Also, it's important to point out that the corona-discharge generator came from Wuhan in some sort of ironic twist.
Anonymous A (OP) double-posted this 6 years ago, 33 minutes later[^] [v] #1,111,780
Anonymous B joined in and replied with this 6 years ago, 18 minutes later, 52 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #1,111,787
If I'm going to go through something that involved I'll just cook some meth. Thanks.
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Anonymous C joined in and replied with this 6 years ago, 49 seconds later, 53 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #1,111,789
Buy everclear
Anonymous B replied with this 6 years ago, 4 minutes later, 57 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #1,111,793
@previous (C)
No. People need that everclear to drink. Buy some damn Isopropyl alcohol for your diy hand sanitizer.
No. People need that everclear to drink. Buy some damn Isopropyl alcohol for your diy hand sanitizer.
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Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 6 years ago, 22 minutes later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #1,111,801
Anonymous D joined in and replied with this 6 years ago, 1 hour later, 3 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,111,826
> After that you need an ozone generator.
Oh good. O3 is just what we need. A big sparky machine to rearrange life giving naturally stable (o2)oxygen gas into a toxic arrangement of atoms ready to react with anything. That third oxygen atom is unstable. It can do anything. It's like Nicholas Cage, except not in a good way.
Here's a fun tip: Try huffing some ozone and see how far that gets you. If you do that and you can still speak out of the tunnel of burnt tissue you call your bronchial tubes and lungs, then maybe you can go enjoy some nice herbal tea with anti-oxidants to curb your inability to breathe. Have fun with your deadly gas manufacturing machine. Please keep it in your own home so it kills you faster and doesn't interfere with anyone else's life.
Oh good. O3 is just what we need. A big sparky machine to rearrange life giving naturally stable (o2)oxygen gas into a toxic arrangement of atoms ready to react with anything. That third oxygen atom is unstable. It can do anything. It's like Nicholas Cage, except not in a good way.
Here's a fun tip: Try huffing some ozone and see how far that gets you. If you do that and you can still speak out of the tunnel of burnt tissue you call your bronchial tubes and lungs, then maybe you can go enjoy some nice herbal tea with anti-oxidants to curb your inability to breathe. Have fun with your deadly gas manufacturing machine. Please keep it in your own home so it kills you faster and doesn't interfere with anyone else's life.
Anonymous E joined in and replied with this 6 years ago, 2 minutes later, 3 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,111,827
Anonymous D replied with this 6 years ago, 2 minutes later, 3 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,111,829
@previous (E)
I don't think they have a section about huffing ozone. That's something you need to experience for yourself.
I don't think they have a section about huffing ozone. That's something you need to experience for yourself.
Anonymous E replied with this 6 years ago, 1 minute later, 3 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,111,830
Anonymous D replied with this 6 years ago, 5 minutes later, 3 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,111,831
@previous (E)
Yeah, free oxygen reacts with stuff. Even lung tissue. I didn't consult the EPA's website on this, but I'm going to have to have to agree with them on that. I don't think it's the answer to pneumonia.
Yeah, free oxygen reacts with stuff. Even lung tissue. I didn't consult the EPA's website on this, but I'm going to have to have to agree with them on that. I don't think it's the answer to pneumonia.
Anonymous E replied with this 6 years ago, 3 minutes later, 3 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,111,832
Anonymous D replied with this 6 years ago, 17 minutes later, 3 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,111,835
@previous (E)
Yeah. Kinda. I was once lectured about how ozone generators never hurt anyone by a thrift shop owner who had one that he had restored from the 1940s to *zap* radioactive elements out of the air. Hmmm... No. That wasn't a big deal it turns out. But the ozone generator works for zapping almost everything else.
My grandma lived in a house with asbestos insulation and lead paint. She told me stories about playing with mercury from broken thermometers. I'm glad she survived and all, but I'm not about to take those as words to live by.
I'd like to not practice survival of the fittest by being the stupidest person to buy into something just because it never killed uneducated grandparents during the depression. I've done plenty of stupid things already that haven't killed me, and I have my own share of stories. I would like to think that maybe we can carry information forward from generation to generation and learn from shit our parents and grandparents did without dying from stupidity in the process.
Yeah. Kinda. I was once lectured about how ozone generators never hurt anyone by a thrift shop owner who had one that he had restored from the 1940s to *zap* radioactive elements out of the air. Hmmm... No. That wasn't a big deal it turns out. But the ozone generator works for zapping almost everything else.
My grandma lived in a house with asbestos insulation and lead paint. She told me stories about playing with mercury from broken thermometers. I'm glad she survived and all, but I'm not about to take those as words to live by.
I'd like to not practice survival of the fittest by being the stupidest person to buy into something just because it never killed uneducated grandparents during the depression. I've done plenty of stupid things already that haven't killed me, and I have my own share of stories. I would like to think that maybe we can carry information forward from generation to generation and learn from shit our parents and grandparents did without dying from stupidity in the process.
Anonymous E replied with this 6 years ago, 7 minutes later, 3 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,111,836
@previous (D)
I'd say that isn't too difficult to achieve. What does the past exist for, if not to learn from it? People have done tons of dangerous things, simply bc they didn't fully understand what they were dealing with. It was all for naught, if we continue to practice the same behaviors, tho.
I'd say that isn't too difficult to achieve. What does the past exist for, if not to learn from it? People have done tons of dangerous things, simply bc they didn't fully understand what they were dealing with. It was all for naught, if we continue to practice the same behaviors, tho.
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Anonymous D replied with this 6 years ago, 8 minutes later, 4 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,111,840
@previous (E)
Yeah, I just keep hearing beleaguered defenses of things that old people did that didn't kill them back when saving tin foil mattered for the war effort and the radio told them to duck and cover from nuclear bombs. Maybe spreading information is the way people don't die for once.
Yeah, I just keep hearing beleaguered defenses of things that old people did that didn't kill them back when saving tin foil mattered for the war effort and the radio told them to duck and cover from nuclear bombs. Maybe spreading information is the way people don't die for once.
Anonymous E replied with this 6 years ago, 5 minutes later, 4 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,111,842
@previous (D)
A task that is sadly easier said than done. Especially in this age of web based misinformation.
A task that is sadly easier said than done. Especially in this age of web based misinformation.