Topic: Coronavirus question
started this discussion 6 years ago #98,522
Ok, now that everyone has been staying at home, everything looks a teensy bit better so we are ready to flood back into the streets and reopen the economy, some are saying.
But there are no drugs that stop the virus and no vaccines to prevent it, right?
So when everyone goes back into the streets and back into the businesses that had been closed, won't the infections explode again, just like it happened before we all hid inside?
But there are no drugs that stop the virus and no vaccines to prevent it, right?
So when everyone goes back into the streets and back into the businesses that had been closed, won't the infections explode again, just like it happened before we all hid inside?
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Anonymous B joined in and replied with this 6 years ago, 3 minutes later[^] [v] #1,111,555
I think so yeah. Except maybe in a very positive estimate, 50% slower now since people will be on the lookout
Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 6 years ago, 24 seconds later, 3 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #1,111,556
Flattening the curve sounds good, yes it may mean the death have not kept climbing at a high rate.
But dont we need to stay at home until there is a drug or vaccine remedy?
But dont we need to stay at home until there is a drug or vaccine remedy?
Dodongo !ZQvsveEcD6 joined in and replied with this 6 years ago, 1 minute later, 5 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #1,111,557
That's exactly what would happen. Anyone saying we're ready to get back to business as usual any time soon is a shortsighted fool.
Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 6 years ago, 1 minute later, 6 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #1,111,558
@1,111,555 (B)
who in fuck wants to go back to yesterdays normal mixing in public when there is even a small chance of getting this shit that can kill you in a week?
Masks dont give me that confidence.
who in fuck wants to go back to yesterdays normal mixing in public when there is even a small chance of getting this shit that can kill you in a week?
Masks dont give me that confidence.
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Anonymous A (OP) double-posted this 6 years ago, 2 minutes later, 9 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #1,111,559
Maybe the talk about this getting back out there talk is just to keep people from becoming hopeless. That would make sense, to keep everyone sane while we are getting more uptight ever week.
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Anonymous B replied with this 6 years ago, 6 minutes later, 16 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #1,111,560
Anonymous D joined in and replied with this 6 years ago, 10 seconds later, 16 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #1,111,561
@1,111,557 (Dodongo !ZQvsveEcD6)
> That's exactly what would happen. Anyone saying we're ready to get back to business as usual any time soon is a shortsighted fool.
Are you suggesting Donald Trump is an idiot?
> That's exactly what would happen. Anyone saying we're ready to get back to business as usual any time soon is a shortsighted fool.
Are you suggesting Donald Trump is an idiot?
Fake anon !ZkUt8arUCU joined in and replied with this 6 years ago, 14 minutes later, 30 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #1,111,562
Yeah to the extent that the number of infections are growing slower day by day, it's largely because people are staying home and life is not continuing as usual. If people go back to doing what they were doing before, the infection and death rates will start rocketing up again. We cannot return to anything approaching normalcy until we have a vaccine, or robust nationwide testing that allows us to detect asymptomatic virus carriers and quarantine them. Going back to normal before either of those two things is going to result in hundreds of thousands of deaths instead of tens of thousands, at best.
Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 6 years ago, 1 minute later, 32 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #1,111,563
Anonymous A (OP) double-posted this 6 years ago, 23 minutes later, 56 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #1,111,570
This is a serious issue.
Dodongo !ZQvsveEcD6 replied with this 6 years ago, 56 minutes later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #1,111,618
Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 6 years ago, 2 minutes later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #1,111,622
Meta !Sober//iZs joined in and replied with this 6 years ago, 1 hour later, 3 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,111,673
Trump needs to put China on notice. The American human and economic damage suffered in the next Chinese pandemic will be paid back tenfold. This shit needs to stop.Dead !Pool..v42s joined in and replied with this 6 years ago, 6 minutes later, 4 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,111,674
Maybe we should stay the fuck home till it's over
Anonymous H joined in and replied with this 6 years ago, 8 minutes later, 4 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,111,678
There has been another study of hydroxychloroquine, this time with 1000 people. All you're going to need is the Trump-Pill™
Erik !jzYkdX7lIw joined in and replied with this 6 years ago, 4 minutes later, 4 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,111,679
@1,111,673 (Meta !Sober//iZs)Sadly I dont think trump has the balls. He talks a tough game but the chinese will offer a trade deal and he'll claim it as a victory.
Father Merrin !u5oFWxmY7U replied with this 6 years ago, 13 minutes later, 4 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,111,683
@1,111,673 (Meta !Sober//iZs)
> Trump needs to put China on notice. The American human and economic damage suffered in the next Chinese pandemic will be paid back tenfold. This shit needs to stop.
China is a vital cog in global capitalism. Nothing will be done to it, unless you want to start sewing your own clothes and glueing your own phone together.
> Trump needs to put China on notice. The American human and economic damage suffered in the next Chinese pandemic will be paid back tenfold. This shit needs to stop.
China is a vital cog in global capitalism. Nothing will be done to it, unless you want to start sewing your own clothes and glueing your own phone together.
Meta !Sober//iZs replied with this 6 years ago, 8 minutes later, 4 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,111,685
@previous (Father Merrin !u5oFWxmY7U)
Actually if you go look at your clothes, not much of them are made in China. Or at least most of mine aren't. Lots of Bangladesh, Honduras, El Salvador, Dominican Republic, Mexico, Vietnam, but not much China. Even my shoes are not made in China (the ones I'm wearing now are Indonesia).
Phone yes but I've recently owned phones made in Vietnam and Korea.
Actually if you go look at your clothes, not much of them are made in China. Or at least most of mine aren't. Lots of Bangladesh, Honduras, El Salvador, Dominican Republic, Mexico, Vietnam, but not much China. Even my shoes are not made in China (the ones I'm wearing now are Indonesia).
Phone yes but I've recently owned phones made in Vietnam and Korea.
Father Merrin !u5oFWxmY7U replied with this 6 years ago, 5 minutes later, 4 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,111,686
@previous (Meta !Sober//iZs)
I was giving 2 examples by way of simplifying. The broader point is, the USA's brand of global capitalism needs China as much as China needs the USA. They will not be punished, for the exact same reason Mohammed bin Salman was not punished for ordering the cutting up of Jamal Khashoggi.
I was giving 2 examples by way of simplifying. The broader point is, the USA's brand of global capitalism needs China as much as China needs the USA. They will not be punished, for the exact same reason Mohammed bin Salman was not punished for ordering the cutting up of Jamal Khashoggi.
Meta !Sober//iZs replied with this 6 years ago, 8 minutes later, 4 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,111,688
@previous (Father Merrin !u5oFWxmY7U)
Mohammed bin Salman wasn't punished by America because how Saudi Arabia handles Saudi dissidents outside of America isn't any of America's business. It's between Turkey and Saudi Arabia.
Mohammed bin Salman wasn't punished by America because how Saudi Arabia handles Saudi dissidents outside of America isn't any of America's business. It's between Turkey and Saudi Arabia.
Father Merrin !u5oFWxmY7U replied with this 6 years ago, 33 minutes later, 5 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,111,693
@previous (Meta !Sober//iZs)
> Mohammed bin Salman wasn't punished by America because how Saudi Arabia handles Saudi dissidents outside of America isn't any of America's business. It's between Turkey and Saudi Arabia.
America doesn't interfere in the affairs of other nations? Hysterical. That must presumably be why the US imposed sanctions on Russia for the attempted assassination of a Russian spy on British soil.
> Mohammed bin Salman wasn't punished by America because how Saudi Arabia handles Saudi dissidents outside of America isn't any of America's business. It's between Turkey and Saudi Arabia.
America doesn't interfere in the affairs of other nations? Hysterical. That must presumably be why the US imposed sanctions on Russia for the attempted assassination of a Russian spy on British soil.
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Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 6 years ago, 11 minutes later, 5 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,111,694
UHHH OH
Anonymous A (OP) double-posted this 6 years ago, 16 seconds later, 5 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,111,695
Anonymous A (OP) triple-posted this 6 years ago, 2 minutes later, 5 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,111,696
Father Merrin !u5oFWxmY7U replied with this 6 years ago, 2 minutes later, 5 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,111,697
@previous (A)
> One death vs millons...brilliant comparison!
What?
Edit: oh you're talking about chickens' deaths. Sorry, carry on.
> One death vs millons...brilliant comparison!
What?
Edit: oh you're talking about chickens' deaths. Sorry, carry on.
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Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 6 years ago, 1 minute later, 5 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,111,698
@1,111,686 (Father Merrin !u5oFWxmY7U)
> I was giving 2 examples by way of simplifying. The broader point is, the USA's brand of global capitalism needs China as much as China needs the USA. They will not be punished, for the exact same reason Mohammed bin Salman was not punished for ordering the cutting up of Jamal Khashoggi.
> I was giving 2 examples by way of simplifying. The broader point is, the USA's brand of global capitalism needs China as much as China needs the USA. They will not be punished, for the exact same reason Mohammed bin Salman was not punished for ordering the cutting up of Jamal Khashoggi.
Father Merrin !u5oFWxmY7U replied with this 6 years ago, 9 minutes later, 5 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,111,701
@previous (A)
Here's the situation. If tomorrow China decides to commit genocide against the Uyghurs (oh wait, they did), the American government will not do a single thing to punish them for it (oh wait, they didn't).
Stop fixating on numbers and try to think in geopolitical terms. The rule is this: you can kill anyone you want in this world, and in whatever quantity you like, provided you serve US economic interests (for another example, see Saudi Arabia's recent genocide in Yemen in which they killed buses of children with American bombs*). But if you oppose American economic interests then look out because "freedom and democracy" (i.e invasion) is coming your way.
* https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dahyan_air_strike
Here's the situation. If tomorrow China decides to commit genocide against the Uyghurs (oh wait, they did), the American government will not do a single thing to punish them for it (oh wait, they didn't).
Stop fixating on numbers and try to think in geopolitical terms. The rule is this: you can kill anyone you want in this world, and in whatever quantity you like, provided you serve US economic interests (for another example, see Saudi Arabia's recent genocide in Yemen in which they killed buses of children with American bombs*). But if you oppose American economic interests then look out because "freedom and democracy" (i.e invasion) is coming your way.
* https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dahyan_air_strike
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Fake anon !ZkUt8arUCU replied with this 6 years ago, 2 minutes later, 5 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,111,702
@1,111,688 (Meta !Sober//iZs)
We launched 50 cruise missiles at Syria 2 years ago because Assad gassed his own people, and blew up Soleimani 2 months ago because he allegedly was behind an attack that killed at most one U.S. contractor in Iraq. There is absolutely no principle like anything you stated that has ever informed U.S. diplomacy since like...maybe Jefferson.
We launched 50 cruise missiles at Syria 2 years ago because Assad gassed his own people, and blew up Soleimani 2 months ago because he allegedly was behind an attack that killed at most one U.S. contractor in Iraq. There is absolutely no principle like anything you stated that has ever informed U.S. diplomacy since like...maybe Jefferson.
Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 6 years ago, 1 minute later, 5 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,111,703
chill dog !!81dzJNNYL joined in and replied with this 6 years ago, 7 hours later, 13 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,111,856
Anonymous K joined in and replied with this 6 years ago, 34 minutes later, 14 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,111,869
@1,111,703 (A)
> Uncle Sam...keeping that pimp hand strong!
Except, you know, not.
China? It can do what is pleases as long as we keep our trade agreements.
Russia? Sure. Occupy other countries like we would have objected to during the cold war. Whatever. We love you now! That's cemented into the Party platform.
Syria? Sure. You like Russia? Great. Gas some people.
Saudis? Yep. Jared is friends with that guy, so he must be cool.
Iran? Hmmm. Whatever. IDK?
Wait... North Korea? Still pursuing nuclear fucking weapons. Ummm... I guess he's friends with somebody? Maybe? IDK?
There's no "pimp hand" asshole. The "pimp hand" is gone. The US hasn't pimp-handed anyone down in a while. Trump just melts and gushes from his crotch over any powerful ruler of an autocratic state. It gets us nowhere. He's not defending democracy. He's defending autocracy.
It's now to the point where the pimp is slapping back because we're a helpless little bitch. The US has pretty much let any potential enemy like Iran or ISIS or North Korea or Russia just fuckin' live their best life for the better part of three years now. What's the answer now? Nationalism? Challenge them to 4D Chess? Do we just retreat to our borders and say "you can't touch us" while the global situation that once depended on us as a world power collapses in our wake and we watch helpless as people call for our stabilizing influence as we yell "not our problem!?!"
What's your great plan once the US falls into the role of economically ruined nation-state? Do we all watch FOX News until we don't believe it anymore? What the fuck do you think the answer is? How do you think our people will take going from world-power to backwater-joke-no-nation-takes-seriously in a generation?
> Uncle Sam...keeping that pimp hand strong!
Except, you know, not.
China? It can do what is pleases as long as we keep our trade agreements.
Russia? Sure. Occupy other countries like we would have objected to during the cold war. Whatever. We love you now! That's cemented into the Party platform.
Syria? Sure. You like Russia? Great. Gas some people.
Saudis? Yep. Jared is friends with that guy, so he must be cool.
Iran? Hmmm. Whatever. IDK?
Wait... North Korea? Still pursuing nuclear fucking weapons. Ummm... I guess he's friends with somebody? Maybe? IDK?
There's no "pimp hand" asshole. The "pimp hand" is gone. The US hasn't pimp-handed anyone down in a while. Trump just melts and gushes from his crotch over any powerful ruler of an autocratic state. It gets us nowhere. He's not defending democracy. He's defending autocracy.
It's now to the point where the pimp is slapping back because we're a helpless little bitch. The US has pretty much let any potential enemy like Iran or ISIS or North Korea or Russia just fuckin' live their best life for the better part of three years now. What's the answer now? Nationalism? Challenge them to 4D Chess? Do we just retreat to our borders and say "you can't touch us" while the global situation that once depended on us as a world power collapses in our wake and we watch helpless as people call for our stabilizing influence as we yell "not our problem!?!"
What's your great plan once the US falls into the role of economically ruined nation-state? Do we all watch FOX News until we don't believe it anymore? What the fuck do you think the answer is? How do you think our people will take going from world-power to backwater-joke-no-nation-takes-seriously in a generation?
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Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 6 years ago, 7 hours later, 22 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,111,929
None of those countries or any other ones ever seriously imagine...even in their wildest dreams, stepping up to toe to toe with The United States of American and running that lip..
Real talk..
Real talk..
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jodi !ariasXXmaE joined in and replied with this 6 years ago, 4 minutes later, 22 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,111,930
@previous (A)
> None of those countries or any other ones ever seriously imagine...even in their wildest dreams, stepping up to toe to toe with The United States of American and running that lip..
>
> Real talk..
you are a dangerous retard
> None of those countries or any other ones ever seriously imagine...even in their wildest dreams, stepping up to toe to toe with The United States of American and running that lip..
>
> Real talk..
you are a dangerous retard
Father Merrin !u5oFWxmY7U joined in and replied with this 6 years ago, 20 minutes later, 22 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,111,940
@1,111,929 (A)
> None of those countries or any other ones ever seriously imagine...even in their wildest dreams, stepping up to toe to toe with The United States of American and running that lip..
You sure did show Vietnam who's boss. Oh wait.
> None of those countries or any other ones ever seriously imagine...even in their wildest dreams, stepping up to toe to toe with The United States of American and running that lip..
You sure did show Vietnam who's boss. Oh wait.
chill dog !!81dzJNNYL replied with this 6 years ago, 10 hours later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #1,112,105
tteh !MemesToDNA joined in and replied with this 6 years ago, 9 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #1,112,110
Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 6 years ago, 1 hour later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #1,112,143
@1,112,105 (chill dog !!81dzJNNYL)
30,000,000 hahahaha...the Only reason we haven't confiscated Canada for miscellaneous storage...is because it's too damn cold.
30,000,000 hahahaha...the Only reason we haven't confiscated Canada for miscellaneous storage...is because it's too damn cold.
chill dog !!81dzJNNYL replied with this 6 years ago, 39 seconds later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #1,112,144
Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 6 years ago, 2 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #1,112,147
@previous (chill dog !!81dzJNNYL)
Dont talk stupid child...it was because of a bunch of stupid politics and that fucked up treaty that didnt hold.
If Trump would have been in charge nobody would know those monkeys ever existed now.
Dont talk stupid child...it was because of a bunch of stupid politics and that fucked up treaty that didnt hold.
If Trump would have been in charge nobody would know those monkeys ever existed now.
chill dog !!81dzJNNYL replied with this 6 years ago, 2 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #1,112,150
Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 6 years ago, 1 minute later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #1,112,152
chill dog !!81dzJNNYL replied with this 6 years ago, 4 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #1,112,154
@previous (A)
You'd think such a militarily superior nation would be able to sort out a war against poor terrorists in less than 20 years. And why was America not able to destroy the poor nation of North Korea, if it's so damn good at war?
You'd think such a militarily superior nation would be able to sort out a war against poor terrorists in less than 20 years. And why was America not able to destroy the poor nation of North Korea, if it's so damn good at war?
Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 6 years ago, 9 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #1,112,158
@previous (chill dog !!81dzJNNYL)
You would seriously bet against the U.S. in a war against any one else in the world right now?
You need to ask someone from Japan about the U.S.
You would seriously bet against the U.S. in a war against any one else in the world right now?
You need to ask someone from Japan about the U.S.
chill dog !!81dzJNNYL replied with this 6 years ago, 1 minute later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #1,112,159
Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 6 years ago, 4 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #1,112,161
chill dog !!81dzJNNYL replied with this 6 years ago, 1 minute later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #1,112,162
Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 6 years ago, 7 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #1,112,164
@previous (chill dog !!81dzJNNYL)
That was one of the biggest moments in world history...I guess you can claim poutine..
That was one of the biggest moments in world history...I guess you can claim poutine..
chill dog !!81dzJNNYL replied with this 6 years ago, 4 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #1,112,169
Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 6 years ago, 2 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #1,112,172
@previous (chill dog !!81dzJNNYL)
Of course you would. That's why Canada hasn't ever contributed squat in the way of military muscle to help promote peace in the world.
Of course you would. That's why Canada hasn't ever contributed squat in the way of military muscle to help promote peace in the world.
chill dog !!81dzJNNYL replied with this 6 years ago, 6 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #1,112,175
@previous (A)
Nah, just not spending as much time destabilizing democratic regimes to install sockpuppet dictators or starting wars pretending to fight terrorism to obtain oil
Canada's contributed plenty of soldiers to UN operations. Not to say that we don't have our share of fuck-ups, but nothing like on the scale of the US.
Nah, just not spending as much time destabilizing democratic regimes to install sockpuppet dictators or starting wars pretending to fight terrorism to obtain oil
Canada's contributed plenty of soldiers to UN operations. Not to say that we don't have our share of fuck-ups, but nothing like on the scale of the US.
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Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 6 years ago, 55 seconds later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #1,112,176
chill dog !!81dzJNNYL replied with this 6 years ago, 1 minute later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #1,112,178
@previous (A)
You realise Canada's had soldiers in Afghanistan for years, right? Just cause all the media you consume is completely US-centric doesn't mean that things don't happen elsewhere.
You realise Canada's had soldiers in Afghanistan for years, right? Just cause all the media you consume is completely US-centric doesn't mean that things don't happen elsewhere.
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Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 6 years ago, 1 minute later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #1,112,179
chill dog !!81dzJNNYL replied with this 6 years ago, 3 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #1,112,181
Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 6 years ago, 3 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #1,112,184
@previous (chill dog !!81dzJNNYL)
My comment about Canadian soldiers was bad. They are surely fine men.
My comment about Canadian soldiers was bad. They are surely fine men.
chill dog !!81dzJNNYL replied with this 6 years ago, 56 seconds later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #1,112,186
@previous (A)
Canadian forces train German soldiers in tanks, from what i recall visiting my parent corps' base in cadets
Canadian forces train German soldiers in tanks, from what i recall visiting my parent corps' base in cadets
Frank joined in and replied with this 6 years ago, 7 seconds later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #1,112,187
chill dog !!81dzJNNYL replied with this 6 years ago, 2 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #1,112,190
@previous (Frank)
Yeah, it's been a long fucking time. You'd think a country that spends trillions on its military would be more efficient and effective.
Unless...what if it wasn't about fighting terrorism at all? No...it couldn't be...they wouldnt lie...
Yeah, it's been a long fucking time. You'd think a country that spends trillions on its military would be more efficient and effective.
Unless...what if it wasn't about fighting terrorism at all? No...it couldn't be...they wouldnt lie...
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Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 6 years ago, 1 minute later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #1,112,192
Anonymous O replied with this 6 years ago, 39 seconds later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #1,112,194
@1,112,190 (chill dog !!81dzJNNYL)
Right. It's almost like the military only stays to try and strong arm people.
Right. It's almost like the military only stays to try and strong arm people.
chill dog !!81dzJNNYL replied with this 6 years ago, 7 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #1,112,202
@1,112,192 (A)
Nobody said that, but you're stupid if you think the US got involved for humanitarian reasons.
Nobody said that, but you're stupid if you think the US got involved for humanitarian reasons.
Father Merrin !u5oFWxmY7U replied with this 6 years ago, 9 hours later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #1,112,332
@1,112,192 (A)
> Saddam was a good boy...he dindu nothing.
"We've just been attacked by 15 Saudis, 2 Emiratis, 1 Egyptian and 1 Lebanese. Let's invade Iraq!"
Also, nationalities that carried out 9/11:
Saudi Arabia
United Arab Emirates
Egypt
Lebanon
Countries that George Bush consequently grouped into the 'Axis of Evil' 5 months later:
Iran
Iraq
North Korea
It takes supreme confidence in the stupidity and ignorance of its own citizens for a government to pull that kind of stunt. I guess they knew that most right-wing Americans wouldn't care too much about who actually carried out the attacks so long as they can watch some brown people getting blown up on TV.
> Saddam was a good boy...he dindu nothing.
"We've just been attacked by 15 Saudis, 2 Emiratis, 1 Egyptian and 1 Lebanese. Let's invade Iraq!"
Also, nationalities that carried out 9/11:
Saudi Arabia
United Arab Emirates
Egypt
Lebanon
Countries that George Bush consequently grouped into the 'Axis of Evil' 5 months later:
Iran
Iraq
North Korea
It takes supreme confidence in the stupidity and ignorance of its own citizens for a government to pull that kind of stunt. I guess they knew that most right-wing Americans wouldn't care too much about who actually carried out the attacks so long as they can watch some brown people getting blown up on TV.
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Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 6 years ago, 3 hours later, 2 days after the original post[^] [v] #1,112,387
2 Trillion dollars!
What happened to the 2 Trillion dollars?
What happened to the 2 Trillion dollars?