Topic: The USA has more coronavirus cases than any other country in the world.
Anonymous A started this discussion 6 years ago #97,991
Whoooa.
Sheila LaBoof joined in and replied with this 6 years ago, 3 minutes later[^] [v] #1,105,246
always have to number one at every fuckin thing
Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 6 years ago, 14 minutes later, 18 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #1,105,250
https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/
Scroll down a little on this page and look at the carnage on-
Confirmed Cases and Deaths by Country, Territory, or Conveyance
For the first time...I am dismayed by Trumps behavior, with him even considering we will be close to in the clear by fucking Easter. The country is being massively fucked right now and Easter is only 20 days or so away.
Damn.
Optimism is one thing but things will be fine in 20 days when we have 85,000 cases of coronavirus... good God..
Scroll down a little on this page and look at the carnage on-
Confirmed Cases and Deaths by Country, Territory, or Conveyance
For the first time...I am dismayed by Trumps behavior, with him even considering we will be close to in the clear by fucking Easter. The country is being massively fucked right now and Easter is only 20 days or so away.
Damn.
Optimism is one thing but things will be fine in 20 days when we have 85,000 cases of coronavirus... good God..
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Anonymous A (OP) double-posted this 6 years ago, 3 minutes later, 21 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #1,105,252
Maybe the sky...IS falling..
Anonymous A (OP) triple-posted this 6 years ago, 27 seconds later, 22 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #1,105,253
Shit!!!
Anonymous A (OP) quadruple-posted this 6 years ago, 1 minute later, 23 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #1,105,254
WE'RE FUCKED!!
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Sheila LaBoof replied with this 6 years ago, 3 minutes later, 27 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #1,105,255
@1,105,250 (A)
> For the first time...I am dismayed by Trumps behavior, with him even considering we will be close to in the clear by fucking Easter. The country is being massively fucked right now and Easter is only 20 days or so away.
>
> Damn.
> Optimism is one thing but things will be fine in 20 days when we have 85,000 cases of coronavirus... good God..
well perhaps this is The Trump Miracle that I imagined would come some day but is taking its fucking time
> For the first time...I am dismayed by Trumps behavior, with him even considering we will be close to in the clear by fucking Easter. The country is being massively fucked right now and Easter is only 20 days or so away.
>
> Damn.
> Optimism is one thing but things will be fine in 20 days when we have 85,000 cases of coronavirus... good God..
well perhaps this is The Trump Miracle that I imagined would come some day but is taking its fucking time
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Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 6 years ago, 3 minutes later, 31 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #1,105,256
Ok...almost 50,000 out of 85,000 cases are New York, New Jersey and Connecticut..
Anonymous A (OP) double-posted this 6 years ago, 1 minute later, 32 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #1,105,258
They need to cut off all entrances and exits to New York, New Jersey and Connecticut NOW.
Anonymous A (OP) triple-posted this 6 years ago, 7 minutes later, 39 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #1,105,261
This is the part where you add to the damn thread.
Anonymous A (OP) quadruple-posted this 6 years ago, 51 seconds later, 40 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #1,105,262
Ohhhh mcdonalds and wrasslin?
How about we are fucked??
How about we are fucked??
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Anonymous A (OP) quintuple-posted this 6 years ago, 3 minutes later, 43 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #1,105,264
Well goddamn.
Whatever go on and just talk about McDonalds and weasslin then. ok!!
I can't sleep but fuck this shit...later..
And no I am not drunk either you sad fucks.
Whatever go on and just talk about McDonalds and weasslin then. ok!!
I can't sleep but fuck this shit...later..
And no I am not drunk either you sad fucks.
Anonymous C joined in and replied with this 6 years ago, 2 minutes later, 45 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #1,105,265
Fake anon !ZkUt8arUCU joined in and replied with this 6 years ago, 4 minutes later, 50 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #1,105,268
@1,105,254 (A)
Yup. Self-quarantine and try to get people you care about to stay home as much as possible. It's going to get a lot worse before it gets any better.
@1,105,258 (A)
Not possible and because the virus has a 14 day incubation period at least, you'll start seeing other states getting worse over the next couple days/weeks. Atlanta, Chicago Detroit, and New Orleans are all hit hard too. It's everywhere.
Yup. Self-quarantine and try to get people you care about to stay home as much as possible. It's going to get a lot worse before it gets any better.
@1,105,258 (A)
Not possible and because the virus has a 14 day incubation period at least, you'll start seeing other states getting worse over the next couple days/weeks. Atlanta, Chicago Detroit, and New Orleans are all hit hard too. It's everywhere.
Sheila LaBoof replied with this 6 years ago, 2 minutes later, 52 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #1,105,273
like, what if it was a cock worm instead
Meta !Sober//iZs joined in and replied with this 6 years ago, 5 minutes later, 57 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #1,105,278
What I'd be interested to see is not just cases per capita but tests per capita. If you don't test someone they wont be in the coronavirus stats no matter how sick they are.
Anonymous F joined in and replied with this 6 years ago, 3 hours later, 4 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,105,321
@previous (Meta !Sober//iZs)
I think you're absolutely right about assessing the numbers in light of testing rates. This has the potential to be a big problem moving forward. Without ready availability to widespread testing, it's hard to see what is actually going on. Sparse data just gives us a floor for the number of confirmed cases and leaves us scratching our heads wondering what number we can multiply "oh shit" by to give us an idea of the real situation. Plus it leaves us operating in the dark about where the next cluster of cases might turn into a major outbreak.
If you look at the data for California, the number of reported cases jumps dramatically around the beginning of March. It's not because the virus suddenly spread more during that time or hit a tipping point, it's because the first week of March is when widescale testing began to be available. The jump in cases one can see on a graph is actually an increase in testing rates playing catch-up to more accurately reflecting the data. The scary part is that the same could be true for any other place that isn't testing but the limited reports would make the problem invisible.
No one wants to see the numbers go up in their state. It's probably tempting for people to think that infection is only a problem in a handful of cities. It's probably comforting for someone to look at the current numbers and think places like New York City are the only problem areas. While that may be comforting for them, they might see it backfire pretty hard. I'm a little scared for Florida to be honest.
I think you're absolutely right about assessing the numbers in light of testing rates. This has the potential to be a big problem moving forward. Without ready availability to widespread testing, it's hard to see what is actually going on. Sparse data just gives us a floor for the number of confirmed cases and leaves us scratching our heads wondering what number we can multiply "oh shit" by to give us an idea of the real situation. Plus it leaves us operating in the dark about where the next cluster of cases might turn into a major outbreak.
If you look at the data for California, the number of reported cases jumps dramatically around the beginning of March. It's not because the virus suddenly spread more during that time or hit a tipping point, it's because the first week of March is when widescale testing began to be available. The jump in cases one can see on a graph is actually an increase in testing rates playing catch-up to more accurately reflecting the data. The scary part is that the same could be true for any other place that isn't testing but the limited reports would make the problem invisible.
No one wants to see the numbers go up in their state. It's probably tempting for people to think that infection is only a problem in a handful of cities. It's probably comforting for someone to look at the current numbers and think places like New York City are the only problem areas. While that may be comforting for them, they might see it backfire pretty hard. I'm a little scared for Florida to be honest.
Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 6 years ago, 51 minutes later, 5 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,105,325
@previous (F)
Cuomos ass acted like he wanted every state to send ever single ventilator to him. He kept saying I NEED 30,000 ventilators!
They barely had 30,000 cases. From my understanding you dont need a ventilator for every case.
New York is dirty and has a lot of pollution and unsanitary.conditions though.
Cuomos ass acted like he wanted every state to send ever single ventilator to him. He kept saying I NEED 30,000 ventilators!
They barely had 30,000 cases. From my understanding you dont need a ventilator for every case.
New York is dirty and has a lot of pollution and unsanitary.conditions though.
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Anonymous A (OP) double-posted this 6 years ago, 2 minutes later, 5 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,105,326
I dont know what it was last night. I suddenly got really anxious about the whole deal. I started a thread to have someone to talk to about it and I guess there wasn't anybody around.
Anonymous A (OP) triple-posted this 6 years ago, 5 minutes later, 5 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,105,329
@previous (A)
Bunches of people were drooling on Cuomo online for his passionate ramblings and shit. Thing is he wanted ALL the ventilators from wherever they were posting from and CV is in every state.
Bunches of people were drooling on Cuomo online for his passionate ramblings and shit. Thing is he wanted ALL the ventilators from wherever they were posting from and CV is in every state.
Anonymous F replied with this 6 years ago, 11 minutes later, 5 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,105,333
@1,105,325 (A)
Are you seriously trying to make him sound selfish for wanting to help sick people? Christ, you're an idiot.
Are you seriously trying to make him sound selfish for wanting to help sick people? Christ, you're an idiot.
Catherine !ttGirlsPl2 joined in and replied with this 6 years ago, 23 seconds later, 5 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,105,335
China ?? ➡️ Italy ?? ➡️ Spain ?? ➡️ United States ??
Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 6 years ago, 4 hours later, 10 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,105,364
@1,105,333 (F)
Then why did Trump get grief for wanting all the vaccines? Are you seriously trying to make him sound selfish for wanting to help sick people? Christ, you're an idiot.
BAM!!!
Then why did Trump get grief for wanting all the vaccines? Are you seriously trying to make him sound selfish for wanting to help sick people? Christ, you're an idiot.
BAM!!!
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Anonymous F (OP) double-posted this 6 years ago, 1 minute later, 10 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,105,365
Anonymous A (OP) triple-posted this 6 years ago, 2 hours later, 12 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,105,393
Sheila LaBoof replied with this 6 years ago, 2 hours later, 15 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,105,462
@1,105,364 (A)
> Then why did Trump get grief for wanting all the vaccines? Are you seriously trying to make him sound selfish for wanting to help sick people? Christ, you're an idiot.
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>
> BAM!!!
he wanted ALL the vaccines? the vaccines that don't even exist yet? Not even one vaccine exists. When they do exist, you'd think the information of how to make it would be spread around the world.
> Then why did Trump get grief for wanting all the vaccines? Are you seriously trying to make him sound selfish for wanting to help sick people? Christ, you're an idiot.
>
>
> BAM!!!
he wanted ALL the vaccines? the vaccines that don't even exist yet? Not even one vaccine exists. When they do exist, you'd think the information of how to make it would be spread around the world.
chill dog !!81dzJNNYL joined in and replied with this 6 years ago, 9 hours later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #1,105,725
@1,105,325 (A)
They will have more cases. Projections estimate that they will need 30-40'000 ventilators so that is what he is trying to get.
@1,105,364 (A)
Because Trump was trying to get exclusive access to the vaccine, so no other country would be able to manufacture it. Ventilators can be manufactured, Cuomo isn't trying to get exclusive access.
They will have more cases. Projections estimate that they will need 30-40'000 ventilators so that is what he is trying to get.
@1,105,364 (A)
Because Trump was trying to get exclusive access to the vaccine, so no other country would be able to manufacture it. Ventilators can be manufactured, Cuomo isn't trying to get exclusive access.
Anonymous I joined in and replied with this 6 years ago, 24 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #1,105,732
@1,105,333 (F)
> Are you seriously trying to make him sound selfish for wanting to help sick people? Christ, you're an idiot.
he cut cdc you goddamn retard
> Are you seriously trying to make him sound selfish for wanting to help sick people? Christ, you're an idiot.
he cut cdc you goddamn retard
Fake anon !ZkUt8arUCU replied with this 6 years ago, 4 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #1,105,733
@1,105,393 (A)
Wait, you really think there is no difference between a governor asking for all the ventilators he will need to keep the people in his state alive, and the President trying to purchase the exclusive rights to manufacture a vaccine so that any country who wants it has to beg the U.S. for the ability to save their citizens? You think this was a good point? What???
Wait, you really think there is no difference between a governor asking for all the ventilators he will need to keep the people in his state alive, and the President trying to purchase the exclusive rights to manufacture a vaccine so that any country who wants it has to beg the U.S. for the ability to save their citizens? You think this was a good point? What???
Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 6 years ago, 46 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #1,105,749
@1,105,725 (chill dog !!81dzJNNYL)
He was too! He kept yelling "
The Federal Government is sending me 4000 ventilators and I need 35,000 ventilators...What am I going to do with 4000 ventilators...I need 35,000 ventilators!"
That would be the equivalent of over 700 ventilators from every state in the country.
Let's examine the situation:
https://www.washingtonpost.com/health/2020/03/18/ventilator-shortage-hospital-icu-coronavirus/
Ventilators range from $25,000 for a basic model to $50,000 for a machine used in the most advanced intensive care units. Buying them also requires additional large investments in staff and training. Letwat said federal government investment would be the surest way to boost supply.
“It’s a challenge for states, local governments and hospital administrators to allocate tens of millions of dollars to something when they don’t know if they need it or not," said Chris Kiple, chief executive of Ventec Life Systems, a small ventilator manufacturer in Washington state. “But if they don’t do it, they are going to be caught flat-footed, and facilities are going to be faced with not enough ventilators to meet demand."
Ventilator manufacturers could achieve, within a few months, a significant boost in production from about 50,000 units a year currently, said Julie Letwat, a health-care lawyer with McGuireWoods in Chicago who is monitoring the industry. Orders have not flooded in, she said, because most hospitals can’t afford to increase inventory of expensive equipment for what could turn out to be a short-term event.
“The risk is that they’ll never be used, and hospitals can’t eat the cost," she said. “Most hospitals in this country are not profitable."
Governors and local health authorities worry about an insufficient supply of ventilators and have been calling on the Trump administration to move aggressively to solve the problem. The president indicated Wednesday he has a plan to boost ventilator supplies but did not provide specifics. “We are ordering thousands and thousands of ventilators and they are complex,” Trump said at a White House press briefing.
And Cuomo screams "Where are my 35,000 ventilators??!"
An analysis by the Society for Critical Care Medicine, citing figures developed for the American Hospital Association, said U.S. hospitals have 62,000 full-featured ventilators for advanced intensive care units with nearly 100,000 more with lesser capabilities.
Contrast supply with potential demand: More than 900,000 patients may need ventilator care during the coronavirus pandemic, the analysis concluded.
So yeah...Cuomo pretty much wants pretty much all the ventilators in the country.
He was too! He kept yelling "
The Federal Government is sending me 4000 ventilators and I need 35,000 ventilators...What am I going to do with 4000 ventilators...I need 35,000 ventilators!"
That would be the equivalent of over 700 ventilators from every state in the country.
Let's examine the situation:
https://www.washingtonpost.com/health/2020/03/18/ventilator-shortage-hospital-icu-coronavirus/
Ventilators range from $25,000 for a basic model to $50,000 for a machine used in the most advanced intensive care units. Buying them also requires additional large investments in staff and training. Letwat said federal government investment would be the surest way to boost supply.
“It’s a challenge for states, local governments and hospital administrators to allocate tens of millions of dollars to something when they don’t know if they need it or not," said Chris Kiple, chief executive of Ventec Life Systems, a small ventilator manufacturer in Washington state. “But if they don’t do it, they are going to be caught flat-footed, and facilities are going to be faced with not enough ventilators to meet demand."
Ventilator manufacturers could achieve, within a few months, a significant boost in production from about 50,000 units a year currently, said Julie Letwat, a health-care lawyer with McGuireWoods in Chicago who is monitoring the industry. Orders have not flooded in, she said, because most hospitals can’t afford to increase inventory of expensive equipment for what could turn out to be a short-term event.
“The risk is that they’ll never be used, and hospitals can’t eat the cost," she said. “Most hospitals in this country are not profitable."
Governors and local health authorities worry about an insufficient supply of ventilators and have been calling on the Trump administration to move aggressively to solve the problem. The president indicated Wednesday he has a plan to boost ventilator supplies but did not provide specifics. “We are ordering thousands and thousands of ventilators and they are complex,” Trump said at a White House press briefing.
And Cuomo screams "Where are my 35,000 ventilators??!"
An analysis by the Society for Critical Care Medicine, citing figures developed for the American Hospital Association, said U.S. hospitals have 62,000 full-featured ventilators for advanced intensive care units with nearly 100,000 more with lesser capabilities.
Contrast supply with potential demand: More than 900,000 patients may need ventilator care during the coronavirus pandemic, the analysis concluded.
So yeah...Cuomo pretty much wants pretty much all the ventilators in the country.
chill dog !!81dzJNNYL replied with this 6 years ago, 7 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #1,105,753
@previous (A)
More can be manufactured. He's trying to ensure that his residents will have medical care when the federal government isn't.
More can be manufactured. He's trying to ensure that his residents will have medical care when the federal government isn't.
Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 6 years ago, 11 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #1,105,760
@previous (chill dog !!81dzJNNYL)
Yes he is.
From that page I linked to:
An analysis by the Society for Critical Care Medicine, citing figures developed for the American Hospital Association, said U.S. hospitals have 62,000 full-featured ventilators for advanced intensive care units with nearly 100,000 more with lesser capabilities.
Contrast supply with potential demand: More than 900,000 patients may need ventilator care during the coronavirus pandemic, the analysis concluded.
And--
Ventilator manufacturers could achieve, within a few months, a significant boost in production from about 50,000 units a year currently.
So there is a need to raise that to 100 times the production seems like that to me.
I would just hope you will admit that this is some VERY tough circumstances to figure out overall and quit saying Trump is such a boogeyman for not handling it perfectly...Trip.
This is uncharted territory considering it could get a lot worse before its over.
Yes he is.
From that page I linked to:
An analysis by the Society for Critical Care Medicine, citing figures developed for the American Hospital Association, said U.S. hospitals have 62,000 full-featured ventilators for advanced intensive care units with nearly 100,000 more with lesser capabilities.
Contrast supply with potential demand: More than 900,000 patients may need ventilator care during the coronavirus pandemic, the analysis concluded.
And--
Ventilator manufacturers could achieve, within a few months, a significant boost in production from about 50,000 units a year currently.
So there is a need to raise that to 100 times the production seems like that to me.
I would just hope you will admit that this is some VERY tough circumstances to figure out overall and quit saying Trump is such a boogeyman for not handling it perfectly...Trip.
This is uncharted territory considering it could get a lot worse before its over.
chill dog !!81dzJNNYL replied with this 6 years ago, 1 minute later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #1,105,762
@previous (A)
Trump is absolutely handling it terribly. He's still saying things could clear up by Easter. That's just not feasible.
Trump is absolutely handling it terribly. He's still saying things could clear up by Easter. That's just not feasible.
Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 6 years ago, 3 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #1,105,763
@previous (chill dog !!81dzJNNYL)
You make me mad. You are not looking at the situation from a mature perspective.
I understand though...because you lack the life experience and wisdom to handle that task.
You make me mad. You are not looking at the situation from a mature perspective.
I understand though...because you lack the life experience and wisdom to handle that task.
Fake anon !ZkUt8arUCU replied with this 6 years ago, 26 seconds later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #1,105,764
@1,105,760 (A)
The reason it's tough circumstances is we needed to be ramping up production of ventilators and tests 6 weeks ago, but Trump didn't do that because he's bad at his job. Tens of thousands of Americans who otherwise would have lived will now die.
The reason it's tough circumstances is we needed to be ramping up production of ventilators and tests 6 weeks ago, but Trump didn't do that because he's bad at his job. Tens of thousands of Americans who otherwise would have lived will now die.
chill dog !!81dzJNNYL replied with this 6 years ago, 5 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #1,105,765
@1,105,763 (A)
America wouldn't be in such a tough position if Trump had dealt with things earlier instead of brushing off the issue.
America wouldn't be in such a tough position if Trump had dealt with things earlier instead of brushing off the issue.
Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 6 years ago, 6 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #1,105,766
@1,105,764 (Fake anon !ZkUt8arUCU)
Goddamn it..
WHO THE FUCK DO YOU PEOPLE THINK YOU ARE???!!!
I just wish we could go back and put this shit on your shoulders and see just how well you motherfuckers did handling this.
All you can do is be Never Trumpers and pitifully fail to support the man in charge and nitpick shit every second....and usually you are doing that from hindsight.
Another word for it is Armchair quarterback..
You are being extremely cynical and hateful and if Trump cured this shit TOMORROW by cutting off his right leg and both his ears you'd still say he was awful.
Good grief you guys are seriously serious bad people if you're not just fucking with me in your extreme efforts just for you to be right and me to be wrong in discussions on here.
Goddamn it..
WHO THE FUCK DO YOU PEOPLE THINK YOU ARE???!!!
I just wish we could go back and put this shit on your shoulders and see just how well you motherfuckers did handling this.
All you can do is be Never Trumpers and pitifully fail to support the man in charge and nitpick shit every second....and usually you are doing that from hindsight.
Another word for it is Armchair quarterback..
You are being extremely cynical and hateful and if Trump cured this shit TOMORROW by cutting off his right leg and both his ears you'd still say he was awful.
Good grief you guys are seriously serious bad people if you're not just fucking with me in your extreme efforts just for you to be right and me to be wrong in discussions on here.
Meta !Sober//iZs replied with this 6 years ago, 17 seconds later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #1,105,767
@1,105,762 (chill dog !!81dzJNNYL)
Actually mathematical modeling of the virus predicts 100% infection in the US by April 21, 9 days after Easter.
https://youtu.be/oRCn5xPLCKs
Actually mathematical modeling of the virus predicts 100% infection in the US by April 21, 9 days after Easter.
https://youtu.be/oRCn5xPLCKs
chill dog !!81dzJNNYL replied with this 6 years ago, 2 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #1,105,768
@1,105,766 (A)
Trudeau's doing pretty dang well, and that while parenting three kids single-handedly because his wife is in isolation. Trump doens't measure up. Why is it impossible for you to ever admit that he fucked up? It's a really bizarre hero worship thing you have going on.
@previous (Meta !Sober//iZs)
Not if you ask Trump!
Trudeau's doing pretty dang well, and that while parenting three kids single-handedly because his wife is in isolation. Trump doens't measure up. Why is it impossible for you to ever admit that he fucked up? It's a really bizarre hero worship thing you have going on.
@previous (Meta !Sober//iZs)
Not if you ask Trump!
Anonymous J joined in and replied with this 6 years ago, 7 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #1,105,769
@1,105,766 (A)
I understand you’re upset, being named after a living Beatle that isn’t Ringo, but with none of the money or talent. That isn’t an excuse to be mean to people here.
I understand you’re upset, being named after a living Beatle that isn’t Ringo, but with none of the money or talent. That isn’t an excuse to be mean to people here.
Sheila LaBoof replied with this 6 years ago, 2 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #1,105,771
@1,105,766 (A)
> Goddamn it..
>
> WHO THE FUCK DO YOU PEOPLE THINK YOU ARE???!!!
>
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> I just wish we could go back and put this shit on your shoulders and see just how well you motherfuckers did handling this.
>
> All you can do is be Never Trumpers and pitifully fail to support the man in charge and nitpick shit every second....and usually you are doing that from hindsight.
> Another word for it is Armchair quarterback..
>
> You are being extremely cynical and hateful and if Trump cured this shit TOMORROW by cutting off his right leg and both his ears you'd still say he was awful.
>
> Good grief you guys are seriously serious bad people if you're not just fucking with me in your extreme efforts just for you to be right and me to be wrong in discussions on here.
waoafabablblaballaa *fart* that's what yoiu sound like
> Goddamn it..
>
> WHO THE FUCK DO YOU PEOPLE THINK YOU ARE???!!!
>
>
> I just wish we could go back and put this shit on your shoulders and see just how well you motherfuckers did handling this.
>
> All you can do is be Never Trumpers and pitifully fail to support the man in charge and nitpick shit every second....and usually you are doing that from hindsight.
> Another word for it is Armchair quarterback..
>
> You are being extremely cynical and hateful and if Trump cured this shit TOMORROW by cutting off his right leg and both his ears you'd still say he was awful.
>
> Good grief you guys are seriously serious bad people if you're not just fucking with me in your extreme efforts just for you to be right and me to be wrong in discussions on here.
waoafabablblaballaa *fart* that's what yoiu sound like
Fake anon !ZkUt8arUCU replied with this 6 years ago, 7 seconds later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #1,105,772
@1,105,766 (A)
Do you think the U.S. Federal Government's response to the Coronavirus pandemic from the time China announced its existence to the world in January until today has been sufficient or insufficient? Do you think that as President, Trump is the single person most responsible for ensuring that the response was sufficient?
People you or your friends know are going to choke on fluid in their lungs and die in agony, surrounded by dozens of other people who are doing the same. Some of the nurses and doctors caring for them will succumb as well. That scene will play out in thousands of hospitals all across the U.S. Trump is the reason they died. That makes me immensely sad because this could have all been prevented. People thought it was a good idea to put a mentally disintegrating elderly man in charge of the country because he was an asshole to other people they didn't like. This is the logical, unavoidable consequence of that decision. When faced with a problem that he could not bluster and bully his way out of, he failed catastrophically. Tens of thousands of people will die at a minimum. The economy is in freefall. You briefly realized all this last night before you lost whatever moment of clarity you had. I don't know what else there is to say.
Do you think the U.S. Federal Government's response to the Coronavirus pandemic from the time China announced its existence to the world in January until today has been sufficient or insufficient? Do you think that as President, Trump is the single person most responsible for ensuring that the response was sufficient?
People you or your friends know are going to choke on fluid in their lungs and die in agony, surrounded by dozens of other people who are doing the same. Some of the nurses and doctors caring for them will succumb as well. That scene will play out in thousands of hospitals all across the U.S. Trump is the reason they died. That makes me immensely sad because this could have all been prevented. People thought it was a good idea to put a mentally disintegrating elderly man in charge of the country because he was an asshole to other people they didn't like. This is the logical, unavoidable consequence of that decision. When faced with a problem that he could not bluster and bully his way out of, he failed catastrophically. Tens of thousands of people will die at a minimum. The economy is in freefall. You briefly realized all this last night before you lost whatever moment of clarity you had. I don't know what else there is to say.
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Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 6 years ago, 2 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #1,105,773
@1,105,768 (chill dog !!81dzJNNYL)
Omfg and sweet Jesus on a pogo stick!!!
Its it easier to responsibly manage a group of THREE MILLION or THREE HUNDRED AND FIFTY MILLION??!
Trump is in charge of a Super Walmart and Trudeax is in charge of a lemonade stand.
Omfg and sweet Jesus on a pogo stick!!!
Its it easier to responsibly manage a group of THREE MILLION or THREE HUNDRED AND FIFTY MILLION??!
Trump is in charge of a Super Walmart and Trudeax is in charge of a lemonade stand.
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chill dog !!81dzJNNYL replied with this 6 years ago, 59 seconds later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #1,105,775
Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 6 years ago, 22 seconds later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #1,105,776
Anonymous J replied with this 6 years ago, 37 seconds later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #1,105,777
Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 6 years ago, 59 seconds later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #1,105,778
Anonymous J replied with this 6 years ago, 1 minute later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #1,105,779
Sheila LaBoof replied with this 6 years ago, 8 seconds later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #1,105,780
@1,105,749 (A)
> He was too! He kept yelling "
>
> The Federal Government is sending me 4000 ventilators and I need 35,000 ventilators...What am I going to do with 4000 ventilators...I need 35,000 ventilators!"
>
30,000 ventilators...what do you need 20,000 ventilators for? I don't have 8,000 ventilators. OK here's 4,000 ventilators.
> He was too! He kept yelling "
>
> The Federal Government is sending me 4000 ventilators and I need 35,000 ventilators...What am I going to do with 4000 ventilators...I need 35,000 ventilators!"
>
30,000 ventilators...what do you need 20,000 ventilators for? I don't have 8,000 ventilators. OK here's 4,000 ventilators.
Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 6 years ago, 35 seconds later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #1,105,781
I mean it is what it is...running a country of 3 and a half million is NOT in the same ballpark as 350 million plus.
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Anonymous J replied with this 6 years ago, 35 seconds later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #1,105,782
Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 6 years ago, 10 seconds later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #1,105,783
Anonymous J replied with this 6 years ago, 57 seconds later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #1,105,784
Sheila LaBoof replied with this 6 years ago, 1 minute later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #1,105,785
35 million? Why are there 30 million people there? Running a country of 20 million people isn't hard. There's only 3 and half million there.
chill dog !!81dzJNNYL replied with this 6 years ago, 1 minute later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #1,105,786
@1,105,781 (A)
37.59 million lmao.
Why can you never admit that Trump has fucked up? On anything? Ever?
37.59 million lmao.
Why can you never admit that Trump has fucked up? On anything? Ever?
Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 6 years ago, 1 minute later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #1,105,787
Triptych an Snake...if I didn't think your opinions were worthwhile I would not be so easily triggered by your words which seem to run completely opposite of how I see things..
I dont think you are bad people...but
I think you have been somehow programmed to view things in a way that is absurd..
I wish things could be easier on us all.
I dont think you are bad people...but
I think you have been somehow programmed to view things in a way that is absurd..
I wish things could be easier on us all.
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Anonymous J replied with this 6 years ago, 1 minute later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #1,105,788
Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 6 years ago, 1 minute later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #1,105,789
chill dog !!81dzJNNYL replied with this 6 years ago, 10 seconds later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #1,105,791
@1,105,787 (A)
> I think you have been somehow programmed to view things in a way that is absurd..
That is exactly how I feel about you
> I think you have been somehow programmed to view things in a way that is absurd..
That is exactly how I feel about you
Anonymous J replied with this 6 years ago, 28 seconds later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #1,105,792
Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 6 years ago, 29 seconds later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #1,105,793
Anonymous J replied with this 6 years ago, 29 seconds later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #1,105,794
Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 6 years ago, 34 seconds later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #1,105,795
Anonymous J replied with this 6 years ago, 50 seconds later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #1,105,796
Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 6 years ago, 3 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #1,105,798
@previous (J)
Did I not ask you to enlighten us on your knowledge which apparently far exceeds mine...on that subject?
Did I not ask you to enlighten us on your knowledge which apparently far exceeds mine...on that subject?
Anonymous J replied with this 6 years ago, 50 seconds later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #1,105,800
Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 6 years ago, 1 minute later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #1,105,802
Anonymous J replied with this 6 years ago, 1 minute later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #1,105,803
Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 6 years ago, 56 seconds later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #1,105,806
Anonymous A (OP) double-posted this 6 years ago, 3 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #1,105,807
@1,105,803 (J)
Ooooooh..
37.59 million.
I was extremely wrong. LOL I was way off. I had the 3 million figure in mind for some reason.
Yes that was boneheaded of me.
Ooooooh..
37.59 million.
I was extremely wrong. LOL I was way off. I had the 3 million figure in mind for some reason.
Yes that was boneheaded of me.
Anonymous F replied with this 6 years ago, 6 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #1,105,813
@1,105,364 (A)
The Governor of New York is currently watching the health care infrastructure of his state be overwhelmed as people die and he is understandably frustrated that life saving medical supplies aren't being sent to the people who are dying right now. I can see where you might think his remarks were a bit brusque, but there really is an actual emergency going on.
I don't see anything wrong with someone trying to get the necessary equipment to save lives to people who need it right now. I'm not sure how you make a villain out of him in this situation. Do you think he's trying to hoard all the other states' ventilators even as the country is rapidly tooling up to start manufacturing ventilators and other equipment as soon as possible?
> Then why did Trump get grief for wanting all the vaccines?
Not everything is about Trump. Stop fucking crying about him.
Maybe be worried about other people for a while and stop worrying about Donald Trump's fucking image.
@1,105,365 (Anonymous F)
I LOL'd. You're kinda special, OP. But not in a good way.
The Governor of New York is currently watching the health care infrastructure of his state be overwhelmed as people die and he is understandably frustrated that life saving medical supplies aren't being sent to the people who are dying right now. I can see where you might think his remarks were a bit brusque, but there really is an actual emergency going on.
I don't see anything wrong with someone trying to get the necessary equipment to save lives to people who need it right now. I'm not sure how you make a villain out of him in this situation. Do you think he's trying to hoard all the other states' ventilators even as the country is rapidly tooling up to start manufacturing ventilators and other equipment as soon as possible?
> Then why did Trump get grief for wanting all the vaccines?
Not everything is about Trump. Stop fucking crying about him.
Maybe be worried about other people for a while and stop worrying about Donald Trump's fucking image.
@1,105,365 (Anonymous F)
I LOL'd. You're kinda special, OP. But not in a good way.
chill dog !!81dzJNNYL replied with this 6 years ago, 51 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #1,105,835
@1,105,787 (A)
Ok i have to point this out.
https://www.thedenverchannel.com/news/national/white-house-coronavirus-task-force-to-hold-daily-briefing-after-trump-signs-stimulus-bill
Trump told Pence not to call governors who haven't been nice enough to him. He's prioritizing his ego over people's lives.
> In particular, Trump called out Washington Gov. Jay Inslee — calling him "a failed presidential candidate" — and Michigan Gov. Gretchen Whitmer, who he said, "has no idea what's going on."
> "I say Mike (Pence), don't call the governor of Washington; you're wasting your time with him. Don't call the woman in Michigan," Trump said. "It doesn't make any difference. You know what I say? If they don't treat you right, don't call."
Even you have to admit that's fucked up, right?
Ok i have to point this out.
https://www.thedenverchannel.com/news/national/white-house-coronavirus-task-force-to-hold-daily-briefing-after-trump-signs-stimulus-bill
Trump told Pence not to call governors who haven't been nice enough to him. He's prioritizing his ego over people's lives.
> In particular, Trump called out Washington Gov. Jay Inslee — calling him "a failed presidential candidate" — and Michigan Gov. Gretchen Whitmer, who he said, "has no idea what's going on."
> "I say Mike (Pence), don't call the governor of Washington; you're wasting your time with him. Don't call the woman in Michigan," Trump said. "It doesn't make any difference. You know what I say? If they don't treat you right, don't call."
Even you have to admit that's fucked up, right?
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Anonymous L joined in and replied with this 6 years ago, 17 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #1,105,863
@1,105,764 (Fake anon !ZkUt8arUCU)> The reason it's tough circumstances is we needed to be ramping up production of ventilators and tests 6 weeks ago, but Trump didn't do that because he's bad at his job. Tens of thousands of Americans who otherwise would have lived will now die.
Oh yeah? Is that why NY is in trouble?
@1,105,813 (F)
> The Governor of New York is currently watching the health care infrastructure of his state be overwhelmed as people die and he is understandably frustrated that life saving medical supplies aren't being sent to the people who are dying right now. I can see where you might think his remarks were a bit brusque, but there really is an actual emergency going on.
>
> I don't see anything wrong with someone trying to get the necessary equipment to save lives to people who need it right now. I'm not sure how you make a villain out of him in this situation. Do you think he's trying to hoard all the other states' ventilators even as the country is rapidly tooling up to start manufacturing ventilators and other equipment as soon as possible?
Is that right? How did it happen? Like specifically to NY?
Anonymous F replied with this 6 years ago, 55 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #1,105,874
@previous (L)What do you mean specifically to NY? It's not specific to New York. It is a bigger problem for NY right now because of the late response and greater population density. The virus is in NYC for the same reason it's in any domestic travel hub in the US or any world travel destination like Rome or Paris. NYC is a major hub for world travel and the New York city metropolitan area has the greatest population density in the country.
Anonymous L replied with this 6 years ago, 46 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #1,105,880
Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 6 years ago, 1 hour later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #1,105,884
@1,105,813 (F)
> Do you think he's trying to hoard all the other states' ventilators even as the country is rapidly tooling up to start manufacturing ventilators and other equipment as soon as possible?
Easier for you to understand...hopefully- an example- If tbere are there is 20 ventilators in the whole country in which every single state people are infected...and be demands as the governor of one state that by God he better get 16 ventilators right now...then yeah I see that as an issue.
> Do you think he's trying to hoard all the other states' ventilators even as the country is rapidly tooling up to start manufacturing ventilators and other equipment as soon as possible?
Easier for you to understand...hopefully- an example- If tbere are there is 20 ventilators in the whole country in which every single state people are infected...and be demands as the governor of one state that by God he better get 16 ventilators right now...then yeah I see that as an issue.
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Fake anon !ZkUt8arUCU replied with this 6 years ago, 3 hours later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #1,105,909
@1,105,863 (L)
If you want me to defend Bill DeBlasio you're talking to the wrong guy. If you think it was incredibly irresponsible for politicians to say at the beginning of February that there was nothing wrong with hanging out in crowds, look at what trump was saying on March 10! "Just stay calm and it will go away." And this is around the time he actually was beginning to take it seriously. Speeches from the time those two tweets were made were way less concerned about the virus than this one. He is worse than DeBlasio on this and I think DeBlasio should lose his job over his handling of NYC's response. This is such a terrible argument man why are you embarrassing yourself?
If you want me to defend Bill DeBlasio you're talking to the wrong guy. If you think it was incredibly irresponsible for politicians to say at the beginning of February that there was nothing wrong with hanging out in crowds, look at what trump was saying on March 10! "Just stay calm and it will go away." And this is around the time he actually was beginning to take it seriously. Speeches from the time those two tweets were made were way less concerned about the virus than this one. He is worse than DeBlasio on this and I think DeBlasio should lose his job over his handling of NYC's response. This is such a terrible argument man why are you embarrassing yourself?
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Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 6 years ago, 26 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #1,105,918
@previous (Fake anon !ZkUt8arUCU)
NYC is a city filled with degenerates and freaks. More whores, pagans, junkies and illegal immigrants than anywhere except California.
It would be the Capital of Liberals and if not for California.
75% of homeless people are in Cali & NYC
The USA could easily be back on the right track if the population of California and NYC were reduced by half.
NYC is a city filled with degenerates and freaks. More whores, pagans, junkies and illegal immigrants than anywhere except California.
It would be the Capital of Liberals and if not for California.
75% of homeless people are in Cali & NYC
The USA could easily be back on the right track if the population of California and NYC were reduced by half.
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Anonymous M joined in and replied with this 6 years ago, 2 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #1,105,919
@1,105,768 (chill dog !!81dzJNNYL)
> Trudeau's doing pretty dang well, and that while parenting three kids single-handedly because his wife is in isolation. Trump doens't measure up. Why is it impossible for you to ever admit that he fucked up? It's a really bizarre hero worship thing you have going on.
>
>
> Not if you ask Trump!
Lol if you think Trudeau is actually doing any parenting
> Trudeau's doing pretty dang well, and that while parenting three kids single-handedly because his wife is in isolation. Trump doens't measure up. Why is it impossible for you to ever admit that he fucked up? It's a really bizarre hero worship thing you have going on.
>
>
> Not if you ask Trump!
Lol if you think Trudeau is actually doing any parenting
Fake anon !ZkUt8arUCU replied with this 6 years ago, 1 minute later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #1,105,922
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Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 6 years ago, 1 minute later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #1,105,924
@1,105,922 (Fake anon !ZkUt8arUCU)
No. Your dont have to visit the desert or somewhere that rains every other day to realize they suck.
No. Your dont have to visit the desert or somewhere that rains every other day to realize they suck.
jodi !ariasXXmaE joined in and replied with this 6 years ago, 51 seconds later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #1,105,925
Fake anon !ZkUt8arUCU replied with this 6 years ago, 19 seconds later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #1,105,926
@1,105,923 (tteh !MemesToDNA)
smd
@1,105,924 (A)
Ok well if you did I think you would have a pretty different opinion. Ones that stem from not having any firsthand knowledge about a topic are often flawed!
smd
@1,105,924 (A)
Ok well if you did I think you would have a pretty different opinion. Ones that stem from not having any firsthand knowledge about a topic are often flawed!
Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 6 years ago, 1 minute later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #1,105,928
An opinion about opinions.
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Anonymous A (OP) double-posted this 6 years ago, 1 minute later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #1,105,930
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Anonymous M replied with this 6 years ago, 10 seconds later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #1,105,933
@1,105,928 (A)
Tennessee is full of inbred hicks who smoke meth and are legally mandated to eat a KFC bucket once a week
Tennessee is full of inbred hicks who smoke meth and are legally mandated to eat a KFC bucket once a week
Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 6 years ago, 5 seconds later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #1,105,934
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Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 6 years ago, 3 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #1,105,947
@1,105,926 (Fake anon !ZkUt8arUCU)
I dont dont other places have many delightful aspects about them. However what I alliterated to is not without merit either.
I dont dont other places have many delightful aspects about them. However what I alliterated to is not without merit either.
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Anonymous M replied with this 6 years ago, 12 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #1,105,949
Sheila LaBoof replied with this 6 years ago, 24 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #1,105,955
COCK
Anonymous F replied with this 6 years ago, 4 hours later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #1,106,038
@1,105,880 (L)
> Are you so defensive because you now have to agree that Trump wins again?!
Stop being a deranged obsessive. I didn't mention Trump. Worry about other shit.
@1,105,884 (A)
> Easier for you to understand...hopefully- an example- If tbere are there is 20 ventilators in the whole country in which every single state people are infected...and be demands as the governor of one state that by God he better get 16 ventilators right now...then yeah I see that as an issue.
How is that an issue if that's the place that needs them right now? People are dying right now. More equipment is in the process of being procured or manufactured, but you're worried about dividing up resources based on some plan that doesn't take immediate need into account?
Let's use a military example to mirror your thinking. If Florida was being invaded and needed troops and guns I suppose you would be cool with California sitting back and demanding equal amounts of military resources be sent to them as well? If Florida Governor DeSantis was complaining that his state was being overrun, someone in Utah would be totally justified in criticizing him for wanting to take troops and supplies from other states that might need them eventually? That's about the level of your thinking, right?
> Are you so defensive because you now have to agree that Trump wins again?!
Stop being a deranged obsessive. I didn't mention Trump. Worry about other shit.
@1,105,884 (A)
> Easier for you to understand...hopefully- an example- If tbere are there is 20 ventilators in the whole country in which every single state people are infected...and be demands as the governor of one state that by God he better get 16 ventilators right now...then yeah I see that as an issue.
How is that an issue if that's the place that needs them right now? People are dying right now. More equipment is in the process of being procured or manufactured, but you're worried about dividing up resources based on some plan that doesn't take immediate need into account?
Let's use a military example to mirror your thinking. If Florida was being invaded and needed troops and guns I suppose you would be cool with California sitting back and demanding equal amounts of military resources be sent to them as well? If Florida Governor DeSantis was complaining that his state was being overrun, someone in Utah would be totally justified in criticizing him for wanting to take troops and supplies from other states that might need them eventually? That's about the level of your thinking, right?
Anonymous L replied with this 6 years ago, 23 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #1,106,047
Anonymous F replied with this 6 years ago, 1 hour later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #1,106,075
100 get
Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 6 years ago, 8 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #1,106,079
Anonymous A (OP) double-posted this 6 years ago, 3 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #1,106,082
Outside of the coronavirus issue.
Can someone explain why its said hospitals have to ordinarily pay over 25,000 or even higher for a piece of electronics not much more functional than a blender?
Can someone explain why its said hospitals have to ordinarily pay over 25,000 or even higher for a piece of electronics not much more functional than a blender?
Sheila LaBoof replied with this 6 years ago, 1 hour later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #1,106,123
well if you look at any outline of itemized charges to a US person's medical bill, you get some idea
it's not charity work
it's not charity work
Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 6 years ago, 1 hour later, 2 days after the original post[^] [v] #1,106,140
@previous (Sheila LaBoof)
The Dems are all about charity work for people who are illegally in this country..
The Dems are all about charity work for people who are illegally in this country..