Anonymous B joined in and replied with this 6 years ago, 7 minutes later[^][v]#1,103,382
Everyone knows yall just looking for cheap shots all the time. Twisting words and consequences, interpretations that even a child knows is only there to fit a particular goal.
Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 6 years ago, 1 minute later, 8 minutes after the original post[^][v]#1,103,384
@previous (B)
Read what Trump literally tweeted, then read actual doctors’ replies. It is right there in black and white.
Anonymous B replied with this 6 years ago, 2 minutes later, 11 minutes after the original post[^][v]#1,103,387
He talks about there being a tremendous potential, in these drugs. How can you twist it into something bad?
Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 6 years ago, 1 minute later, 12 minutes after the original post[^][v]#1,103,388
@previous (B)
Read the tweets themselves. He is touting a drug with deadly side effects. He knows nothing about medicine. He is giving his cult worshippers deadly advice.
Anonymous B replied with this 6 years ago, 2 minutes later, 14 minutes after the original post[^][v]#1,103,390
Oh i think we understand just fine. You think the public is stupid and you want the public to be treated as such, not a problem, except yall are so damn good at telling the public this in frank words and attitudes.
Meta !Sober//iZs joined in and replied with this 6 years ago, 12 minutes later, 50 minutes after the original post[^][v]#1,103,404
> PuffedHo
didnt read lol ???
Sheila LaBoof joined in and replied with this 6 years ago, 1 hour later, 2 hours after the original post[^][v]#1,103,437
> Oh i think we understand just fine. You think the public is stupid and you want the public to be treated as such, not a problem, except yall are so damn good at telling the public this in frank words and attitudes.
what public
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Apocalypse Indy !bYobIzYIFE joined in and replied with this 6 years ago, 35 minutes later, 3 hours after the original post[^][v]#1,103,454
@1,103,400 (B)
He is the president. People listen to him. He is nowhere near a medical expert. He publicly says, hey, we have this new drug combination that deals with Covid! Things are looking good! Actual, real, expert doctors reply, saying NO! It has deadly side effects! Do not take it! How could this be any clearer to you?
Anonymous H joined in and replied with this 6 years ago, 1 minute later, 3 hours after the original post[^][v]#1,103,456
@previous (Apocalypse Indy !bYobIzYIFE)
I don’t trust you. You change your name to and from “Anonymous”, and you have more than one UID.
Anonymous B replied with this 6 years ago, 5 minutes later, 3 hours after the original post[^][v]#1,103,464
Except that's not what he said, he said it has potential and it's not like he personally decided to look for drugs on his own. In case you don't know, a lot of people are worried not only about themselves but their loved ones too. He's giving hope, he is sharing his hope. For you, and anyone at all, to play this political game that everyone sees through, it's like shooting yourself in the foot. Playing some kind of protector of the poor stupid irrational people is one thing, but playing it so badly too? Jesus.
chill dog !!81dzJNNYL joined in and replied with this 6 years ago, 4 hours later, 7 hours after the original post[^][v]#1,103,577
@1,103,387 (B)
He said it was approved. It's not. He also said it wouldn't kill anyone. It has.
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chill dog !!81dzJNNYL double-posted this 6 years ago, 2 minutes later, 7 hours after the original post[^][v]#1,103,578
@1,103,387 (B)
He falsely suggested it had been approved for use against COVID-19. “It’s been approved ... they took it down from many, many months to immediate,” Trump said.
But FDA Commissioner Stephen Hahn immediately contradicted Trump, telling reporters: “That’s a drug that the president has directed us to take a closer look at as to whether an expanded use approach. ... We want to do that in the setting of a clinical trial, a large pragmatic clinical trial.”
> “It’s been around for a long time, so we know that if things don’t go as planned it’s not going to kill anybody,” Trump said.
> Officials in Nigeria reported two chloroquine poisonings that resulted in hospitalizations after Trump pushed the drug.
Dead !Pool..v42s joined in and replied with this 6 years ago, 21 minutes later, 7 hours after the original post[^][v]#1,103,587
Is this about the malaria treatments? A customer just told me about that and was super supportive, but when I mentioned china is using the blood of recovered patients for transfusion treatments, he looked at me hella crazy.
Anonymous C replied with this 6 years ago, 47 minutes later, 8 hours after the original post[^][v]#1,103,607
Anonymous K joined in and replied with this 6 years ago, 5 minutes later, 9 hours after the original post[^][v]#1,103,626
orange man bad. yawn.
Anonymous D replied with this 6 years ago, 6 minutes later, 9 hours after the original post[^][v]#1,103,628
@previous (K)
Unwilling to even express disapproval of a world leader handing out questionable medical advice during a worldwide pandemic, probably because you're so faithful to the man that you now automatically dismiss any criticism of him. Weak-willed, single-minded.
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Sheila LaBoof replied with this 6 years ago, 9 minutes later, 9 hours after the original post[^][v]#1,103,629
Dead !Pool..v42s replied with this 6 years ago, 4 minutes later, 9 hours after the original post[^][v]#1,103,630
@previous (Sheila LaBoof)
Sounds like an NPC to me
Sheila LaBoof replied with this 6 years ago, 5 minutes later, 9 hours after the original post[^][v]#1,103,632
@previous (Dead !Pool..v42s)
yes, and and a side comment about that way of plopping in comments, since I can't be bothered with long-form video games and never absorbed the jargon, the whole NPC thing made no fucking sense to me for months since I sure as shit couldn't be bothered to hunt around for an explanation that these internet jerks would not be kind enough to provide. So they would just sound like incoherent catchphrase repeaters themselves, ironically enough.
Anonymous D replied with this 6 years ago, 4 minutes later, 9 hours after the original post[^][v]#1,103,633
@previous (Sheila LaBoof)
The reason behind that meme was pretty fuckin' stupid, too.
@1,103,630 (Dead !Pool..v42s)
What makes me chuckle about that idiotic meme is that it's very easy to use it against basically any group.
Dead !Pool..v42s replied with this 6 years ago, 1 minute later, 10 hours after the original post[^][v]#1,103,635
@previous (D)
Especially when people misword things, NPCs in games are notorious for that
Sheila LaBoof replied with this 6 years ago, 14 minutes later, 10 hours after the original post[^][v]#1,103,637
All your base?
Meta !Sober//iZs replied with this 6 years ago, 18 minutes later, 10 hours after the original post[^][v]#1,103,641
> He is the president. People listen to him. He is nowhere near a medical expert.
Have we ever had a president who was a medical expert? Doing some digging it seems William Henry Harrison (president from March 4, 1841 – April 4, 1841) attended medical school for several months in 1791 at the University of Pennsylvania, but had to withdraw the same year because the death of his father left him with no money. I'm not sure if that qualifies him as a "medical expert" but it's more than any other US president has had ?
William Henry Harrison is the only US president who has ever been to medical school.
chill dog !!81dzJNNYL replied with this 6 years ago, 4 minutes later, 10 hours after the original post[^][v]#1,103,642
@previous (Meta !Sober//iZs)
Trump isn't repeating what actual medical experts say though, which is what he should do.
Meta !Sober//iZs replied with this 6 years ago, 13 minutes later, 10 hours after the original post[^][v]#1,103,644
@previous (chill dog !!81dzJNNYL)
No reasonable person expects the president to be a medical expert or would construe his tweets as medical advice. He doesn't need to repeat what the actual medical experts say, because they've already said it. Trump has ideas, maybe they're good ideas, maybe they're not, but in a crisis I think it's important to get good ideas out.
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Fake anon !ZkUt8arUCU joined in and replied with this 6 years ago, 2 minutes later, 10 hours after the original post[^][v]#1,103,645
@previous (Meta !Sober//iZs)
Meta why do you always have the worst opinions?
tteh !MemesToDNA joined in and replied with this 6 years ago, 4 minutes later, 10 hours after the original post[^][v]#1,103,646
@previous (Fake anon !ZkUt8arUCU)
Contrarianism is cool. ?
Fake anon !ZkUt8arUCU replied with this 6 years ago, 2 minutes later, 10 hours after the original post[^][v]#1,103,647
@previous (tteh !MemesToDNA)
There's a difference between being contrarian and just being wrong all the time.
chill dog !!81dzJNNYL replied with this 6 years ago, 57 seconds later, 11 hours after the original post[^][v]#1,103,648
@1,103,644 (Meta !Sober//iZs)
He's the president. People listen to him. He should be amplifying the advice of actual experts instead of saying dangerous and demonstrably wrong stuff.
tteh !MemesToDNA replied with this 6 years ago, 38 seconds later, 11 hours after the original post[^][v]#1,103,649
Sheila LaBoof replied with this 6 years ago, 47 seconds later, 11 hours after the original post[^][v]#1,103,651
maybe he has some hot stock tips for us
Meta !Sober//iZs replied with this 6 years ago, 1 minute later, 11 hours after the original post[^][v]#1,103,652
@1,103,645 (Fake anon !ZkUt8arUCU)
I think they're pretty good myself! I mean like maybe not the best opinions but I think they're a solid B+ most of the time ?
But seriously though. Trump is a reality TV star. No one expects him to know anything about medicine. People who use their heads would take that into account when he dispenses coronavirus treatment advice. If you want that, go ask the surgeon general.
chill dog !!81dzJNNYL replied with this 6 years ago, 59 seconds later, 11 hours after the original post[^][v]#1,103,653
@previous (Meta !Sober//iZs)
It's reasonable to believe that the president would be giving sound advice backed by medical experts, not spouting bullshit. Presidents aren't experts in everything but they have access to and are expected to speak with experts.
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tteh !MemesToDNA replied with this 6 years ago, 3 minutes later, 11 hours after the original post[^][v]#1,103,655
God, I miss Obama.
Meta !Sober//iZs replied with this 6 years ago, 5 minutes later, 11 hours after the original post[^][v]#1,103,658
@previous (tteh !MemesToDNA)
He didn't know shit about medicine either ??
@1,103,653 (chill dog !!81dzJNNYL)
Everyone has access to experts now (just google "Coronavirus medical advice") so it's no longer necessary (if indeed it ever was) for the president to simply parrot what the experts say.
Fake anon !ZkUt8arUCU replied with this 6 years ago, 2 seconds later, 11 hours after the original post[^][v]#1,103,659
@1,103,652 (Meta !Sober//iZs)
He's not a reality tv star anymore he's the president of the united states. All of his tweets are official declarations of the head of the Executive Branch of the United States Federal Government. And they're fucking batshit insane. That is a huge problem.
tteh !MemesToDNA replied with this 6 years ago, 4 minutes later, 11 hours after the original post[^][v]#1,103,662
@1,103,658 (Meta !Sober//iZs)
No, but you could rely on him to repeat expert advice. And use cromulent English sentences. ?
chill dog !!81dzJNNYL replied with this 6 years ago, 30 seconds later, 11 hours after the original post[^][v]#1,103,663
@1,103,658 (Meta !Sober//iZs)
It's completely reasonable to believe you should be able to trust what the president says. I don't know why you're defending this.
Meta !Sober//iZs replied with this 6 years ago, 9 minutes later, 11 hours after the original post[^][v]#1,103,666
@previous (chill dog !!81dzJNNYL)
Your lack of cynicism is surprising, to be honest (I mean not just with Trump, but politicians in general).
chill dog !!81dzJNNYL replied with this 6 years ago, 6 minutes later, 11 hours after the original post[^][v]#1,103,668
@previous (Meta !Sober//iZs)
It's one thing when it comes to propaganda or spinning political happenings. But medical advice? If trudeau says something about medical treatments for Covid-19, i can trust that it's backed by medical experts. You should be able to say the same for your president and it's fucked up that you're accepting this.
Sheila LaBoof replied with this 6 years ago, 4 minutes later, 11 hours after the original post[^][v]#1,103,670
@1,103,666 (Meta !Sober//iZs)
the trouble is not with those who notice when he says bullshit and make a point about it
recall the story of the emporer with no clothes-- the child who called out, HEY YOU CAN SEE HIS COCK
Meta !Sober//iZs replied with this 6 years ago, 6 minutes later, 11 hours after the original post[^][v]#1,103,672
@1,103,668 (chill dog !!81dzJNNYL)
I think a large part of it is I'm wired differently. Like if I wanted to know about medical treatments for COVID-19 I would do my own research and then after I've done research on all the options go to the doctor and say "I have Coronavirus and want to try X treatment" and then go from there. Maybe my own preferred idea would be a non-starter for some reason, and I would certainly listen to the doctor's plan for treatment but I would at least research all the options.
This is the way it's always been for me. Of course if I were in some serious medical emergency and unable to do research and make a decision about treatment I would just take whatever the doctors give and hope for the best. But if I were at all able to, I would research the problem and treatment options for myself.
chill dog !!81dzJNNYL replied with this 6 years ago, 1 minute later, 11 hours after the original post[^][v]#1,103,673
@previous (Meta !Sober//iZs)
That's not the point. Of course people should always fact check. That doesn't mean it isn't a problem when the leader of your country is spouting absolute demonstrable bullshit which actually puts people in danger if they listen to it.
jodi !ariasXXmaE joined in and replied with this 6 years ago, 41 seconds later, 11 hours after the original post[^][v]#1,103,674
chill dog !!81dzJNNYL replied with this 6 years ago, 5 minutes later, 12 hours after the original post[^][v]#1,103,679
@previous (Meta !Sober//iZs)
He said the combination was approved, which it isn't, and that it won't kill anyone, which it has.
Meta !Sober//iZs replied with this 6 years ago, 22 minutes later, 12 hours after the original post[^][v]#1,103,686
@previous (chill dog !!81dzJNNYL) > He said the combination was approved, which it isn't, and that it won't kill anyone, which it has.
Okay let's unpack the original tweets:
“HYDROXYCHLOROQUINE & AZITHROMYCIN, taken together, have a real chance to be one of the biggest game changers in the history of medicine. The FDA has moved mountains – Thank You!, Hopefully they will BOTH …
be put in use IMMEDIATELY. PEOPLE ARE DYING, MOVE FAST, and GOD BLESS EVERYONE!”
He said:
1. The two drugs taken together have a real chance to be one of the biggest game changers in the history of medicine.
The initial research into the combination is promising. I think it's too soon to say it won't be a coronavirus game changer or at least help treatment of it.
2. The FDA has moved mountains and he expresses gratitude for this.
I am unsure what exactly this means but I would take it to mean the FDA is accelerating the approval process in some way. It does not say it was approved by the FDA, but that the FDA has "moved mountains". This could mean a lot of things.
3. He hopes the drug combination will be put into use immediately.
This is just his hope. He hopes lots of things will happen. It doesn't mean much.
4. A reminder that people are dying and there is a need to move fast.
I don't see anything objectionable about this.
So in summary I do not see where he claimed it was FDA approved, or that it would not kill anyone, or even where he told anyone to take it. Just that it might be a game changer and he is hopeful the drug combination will be put in use immediately.
If I have missed anything, please let me know.
chill dog !!81dzJNNYL replied with this 6 years ago, 4 minutes later, 12 hours after the original post[^][v]#1,103,692
@previous (Meta !Sober//iZs)
I wasn't referring to the tweets specifically. See @1,103,578 (chill dog !!81dzJNNYL) where i quoted from the article.
I will correct myself here and say that people haven't been killed by it, but they have been hospitalized. My mistake.
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tteh !MemesToDNA replied with this 6 years ago, 29 seconds later, 12 hours after the original post[^][v]#1,103,693
"If we – if this works as well as – hopefully it might. The FDA, which would have taken normally much longer to do under our great Secretary ... the head of the FDA has been – Dr Stephen Hahn – he has been fantastic. He got it approved very quickly. I won't even tell you how quickly, but let's put it this way: It's approved. And we're encouraging you to take a look at it. We have ordered a lot of it, and you can too. It's by prescription."
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Apocalypse Indy™ !bYobIzYIFE replied with this 6 years ago, 48 minutes later, 13 hours after the original post[^][v]#1,103,712
@1,103,692 (chill dog !!81dzJNNYL)
There is no use reasoning with a Trump cult member. They long ago abandoned the use of reason and reality. They literally worship him as an infallible God. It belays a weak mind.
Anonymous C replied with this 6 years ago, 1 minute later, 13 hours after the original post[^][v]#1,103,714
@1,103,692 (chill dog !!81dzJNNYL)
As a regular poster on here you shouldn't be posting mistruths which you could have known were false with a modicum of research.
Your repeated false claims were demonstrable bullshit.
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chill dog !!81dzJNNYL replied with this 6 years ago, 22 minutes later, 13 hours after the original post[^][v]#1,103,726
@previous (C)
Good thing I'm not in a leadership position like the president of the united states!
Sheila LaBoof replied with this 6 years ago, 33 minutes later, 14 hours after the original post[^][v]#1,103,732
@previous (chill dog !!81dzJNNYL)
well in your case, you issued a correction, so apparently you are overqualified
Anonymous C replied with this 6 years ago, 4 minutes later, 14 hours after the original post[^][v]#1,103,734
@1,103,726 (chill dog !!81dzJNNYL)
You'd have probably been better than Obama.
chill dog !!81dzJNNYL replied with this 6 years ago, 25 minutes later, 14 hours after the original post[^][v]#1,103,743
@previous (C)
Better than a Harvard professor of constitutional law? Certainly not. Better than a reality tv star? Well that's a low bar.
Anonymous K replied with this 6 years ago, 3 hours later, 18 hours after the original post[^][v]#1,103,752
@1,103,629 (Sheila LaBoof) > > orange man bad. yawn. > your grammar is atrocious.
oh is it. ok.
Anonymous K double-posted this 6 years ago, 6 minutes later, 18 hours after the original post[^][v]#1,103,755
@1,103,686 (Meta !Sober//iZs)
Do you happen to know what the main argument for using Azithromycin is? I don't see how there would be any benefit in combating a virus, since it's an antibiotic (i.e. antibacterial, not antiviral). My guess is to help prevent secondary pneumonic infections due to a compromised immune system.
Anonymous K triple-posted this 6 years ago, 14 minutes later, 18 hours after the original post[^][v]#1,103,756
@1,103,628 (D)
Unwilling to even express approval of a world leader doing his best to help in an extremely tricky situation, during a worldwide pandemic, probably because you're so faithful to the ideology of "Orange Man Bad" that you now automatically dismiss any criticism of it. Weak-willed, single-minded.
Anonymous D replied with this 6 years ago, 59 minutes later, 19 hours after the original post[^][v]#1,103,761
@previous (K)
Just stop. "Golly gee he's doing his best" is such a weak excuse, a world leader should be held to a higher standard than "well he did something flagrantly wrong but he meant well!".
Anonymous K replied with this 6 years ago, 1 hour later, 20 hours after the original post[^][v]#1,103,765
@previous (D) > Just stop. "Golly gee he's doing his best" is such a weak excuse, a world leader should be held to a higher standard than "well he did something flagrantly wrong but he meant well!".
Wah. Stop having an opinion that I don't like!
You just stop.
Anonymous D replied with this 6 years ago, 38 minutes later, 21 hours after the original post[^][v]#1,103,767
@previous (K)
This week on Minichan; Trump promotes questionable medical advice during a serious pandemic, and his fans on Minichan bend over backwards to defend it. Special mention to Anonymous K for saying that Trump was "doing his best" by tweeting shoddy information on a whim.
He's such a good presient. Why can't you see that?
Next week: Trump retweets a conspiracy theory saying that the coronavirus was made by China and the Democrats working together. How will the Minichan bootlickers justify this one? Tune in to find out!
Anonymous K replied with this 6 years ago, 31 minutes later, 21 hours after the original post[^][v]#1,103,773
@previous (D) > This week on Minichan; Trump promotes questionable medical advice during a serious pandemic, and his fans on Minichan bend over backwards to defend it. Special mention to Anonymous K for saying that Trump was "doing his best" by tweeting shoddy information on a whim. > > He's such a good presient. Why can't you see that? > > Next week: Trump retweets a conspiracy theory saying that the coronavirus was made by China and the Democrats working together. How will the Minichan bootlickers justify this one? Tune in to find out!
Christ, calm down. I'm not bending over backwards to defend him. You are the one who is being ridiculously hyperbolic.
I am merely pointing out that this is an extremely difficult situation to deal with, and NOBODY really knows what the best course of action is. You don't seem to understand that world leaders do not have to be medical experts. Trump (and all other leaders who have escaped your scathing criticism, yet they are doing far less) is taking advice from trusted advisors and experts around him, and sharing that advice. What the fuck else do you expect him to do? And if that advice is misguided, oh esteemed doctor and expert virologist, then I suggest you switch off CNN and go offer your services to the government, instead of sitting behind your keyboard, foaming at the mouth and pointing your fat, dorito-crumbed finger at the people who are trying to be proactive.
Meta !Sober//iZs replied with this 6 years ago, 4 minutes later, 21 hours after the original post[^][v]#1,103,775
@1,103,755 (K)
That's my understanding as well, that it treats secondary bacterial infections.
As for hydroxychloroquine, it appears to have some anti-inflammatory effect.
jodi !ariasXXmaE replied with this 6 years ago, 33 minutes later, 22 hours after the original post[^][v]#1,103,784
@1,103,773 (K) > NOBODY really knows what the best course of action is.
is that how low the bar is these days
Anonymous D replied with this 6 years ago, 18 minutes later, 22 hours after the original post[^][v]#1,103,791
Like, fuck. I would be much less disdainful of you Trump supporters if you showed any capacity to disagree with him. Like, you can agree with a politician's policies and vote for them but still question some of their tweets at the very least.
I understand that you have to overlook a lot to like the man in the first place, but come on.
@1,103,773 (K)
Now you're making out that nobody can really know what to do here because it's just so hard to get information. Skim the article in the OP. To know that this wasn't solid information, Trump could have asked...
His own science advisor: > Fauci responded that there may be positive “anecdotal reports” — informally observed individual cases — about the drugs, but they haven’t yet been proven to work, or to be safe.
Or any number of experts: > Infectious disease expert Dr. Matt McCarthy, a physician at Manhattan’s New York-Presbyterian Hospital treating people suffering from COVID-19, tweeted Friday about the drug combination. He noted that a new study (treating 20 patients) showed the drugs decreased the presence of the coronavirus in the blood of those tested. But he also warned about the possibility of fatal arrhythmia. “We don’t really know” if the drugs will cure or kill someone, he tweeted.
> and all other leaders who have escaped your scathing criticism, yet they are doing far less
What, am I supposed to be following several world leaders for their coronavirus hot takes? Should I have immediately found some relevant tweets to compare to Trump's one after reading this topic? Weak rebuttal. Try again.
> And if that advice is misguided, oh esteemed doctor and expert virologist
Fuck you. I'm not claiming any special expertise by saying that the President should actually consult the experts that he has ample access to, before he gives out medical advice in a pandemic.
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Anonymous K replied with this 6 years ago, 1 hour later, 1 day after the original post[^][v]#1,103,838
@1,103,784 (jodi !ariasXXmaE) > >NOBODY really knows what the best course of action is. > is that how low the bar is these days
Another all-knowning genius. So what would you do then?
> Trump could have asked... His own science advisor... Or any number of experts
What makes you think he hasn't?
> I'm not claiming any special expertise
You are asserting that the medical advice is "questionable" and that the information is "shoddy". I have to assume that either you are a medical professional/virologist, who knows this for a fact. Or you are taking the stance that just because the bad orange man said it on Twitter, the advice has to be crap.
Something tells me it's the latter.
By the way, I'm not a Trump supporter.
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Anonymous K double-posted this 6 years ago, 3 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^][v]#1,103,840
@1,103,775 (Meta !Sober//iZs) > As for hydroxychloroquine, it appears to have some anti-inflammatory effect.
Interesting. I wonder if any other malaria medication also works. Deltaprim used to be the best until they discontinued it, because some idiots couldn't follow the instructions about taking it every 5 days (just like penoxycyline in RimWorld).
Anonymous D replied with this 6 years ago, 15 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^][v]#1,103,849
@1,103,838 (K) > By the way, I'm not a Trump supporter.
Yet you excuse his idiocy, and use the orange man bad meme on anyone who does call his tweet idiotic. Unconvincing.
Anonymous K replied with this 6 years ago, 21 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^][v]#1,103,862
@previous (D) > > By the way, I'm not a Trump supporter. > Yet you excuse his idiocy, and use the orange man bad meme on anyone who does call his tweet idiotic. Unconvincing.
Yes well believe it or not, it's true. Though I have no doubt, given your own blinkered, one-dimensional mode of thought, it is impossible in your universe that anybody could consider, even occasionally, something Trump said not to be idiotic, and yet somehow not be a full-on supporter.
Anyway, as I implied earlier, the automatic criticism of Trump just because he's Trump (and CNN says he's a bad man) is so very boring, as is this thread. So, I bid you farewell.
Anonymous D replied with this 6 years ago, 17 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^][v]#1,103,873
@previous (K) > the automatic criticism of Trump just because he's Trump (and CNN says he's a bad man) is so very boring
What a load of shit. The article, and posters ITT, explained why he was in the wrong here. Then you strolled in and went "hurrrrr look it's more orange man bad xD" without bothering to address the actual arguments. How hypocritical.
> So, I bid you farewell.
I bid you to eat my taint.
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Sheila LaBoof replied with this 6 years ago, 40 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^][v]#1,103,908
> > > orange man bad. yawn. > > your grammar is atrocious. > oh is it. ok.
yes, you come off as fucked up
Meta !Sober//iZs replied with this 6 years ago, 4 hours later, 1 day after the original post[^][v]#1,104,040
@1,103,840 (K)
Actually on further research chloroquine does have an anti-viral effect in addition to being anti-inflammatory:
Chloroquine has antiviral effects.[32] It increases late endosomal or lysosomal pH, resulting in impaired release of the virus from the endosome or lysosome - release requires a low pH. The virus is therefore unable to release its genetic material into the cell and replicate.[33][34]
Chloroquine also seems to act as a zinc ionophore, that allows extracellular zinc to enter the cell and inhibit viral RNA dependant RNA polymerase.
I'm certainly not qualified to say whether this would be the best treatment for coronavirus, but it certainly seems to be a treatment, and one which has a lot of evidence supporting it. Certainly with azithromycin to also handle any secondary bacterial infections, I don't see why this is such a crazy idea.
Yes there is a potential for arrhythmia and certainly people at risk for that should weigh the risk for that (all medicine has a risk of side effects).
jodi !ariasXXmaE replied with this 6 years ago, 41 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^][v]#1,104,063
Anonymous K replied with this 6 years ago, 25 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^][v]#1,104,088
@1,104,040 (Meta !Sober//iZs) > Actually on further research chloroquine does have an anti-viral effect in addition to being anti-inflammatory
That's cool.
> I don't see why this is such a crazy idea.
Yes, neither do I.
> (all medicine has a risk of side effects).
Exactly, which is why this Huff Compost article is so misleading. If you look at the tweets from the medical professionals quoted, you'll see a whole bunch of clauses in nearly all of them like "UNLESS your doctor prescribes it", "ONLY be done under the supervision of a doctor", "No one should take these drugs together without consulting a doctor." They are warning people that these are dangerous drugs and that they should not try obtain them, esp. in combination, without a prescription - only sensible advice for schedule 1 & 2 drugs. They are not dismissing the idea altogether or calling it idiotic, as the article seems to be doing. Of course morons like Anon D are going to read it in the context of their OMB ideology and leap to all the wrong conclusions, as demonstrated in this thread.
I only hope that when they complete research and production of the vaccine that Trump does not endorse it, because then automatically all these numpties will refuse to get it, and will probably start up on the vaccines cause autism bullshit again.
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I've had several bags of Azithromycin pumped into my veins before and I'm fine.
It is a strong antibiotic that does have some potential side effects not did the job for me without any problems.