Topic: Trump is telling his rallygoers...
Indy !UyKfhUGMbw started this discussion 6 years ago #97,070
...that the Coronavirus is a liberal hoax. Do you not see the fucking danger in this?
Fake anon !ZkUt8arUCU joined in and replied with this 6 years ago, 7 minutes later[^] [v] #1,095,591
You have to admit that if he is right, it is one of the greatest pranks ever pulled.
Meta !Sober//iZs joined in and replied with this 6 years ago, 3 minutes later, 10 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #1,095,594
You're over one hundred times more likely to die from the flu than coronavirus: https://www.hopkinsmedicine.org/health/conditions-and-diseases/coronavirus/coronavirus-disease-2019-vs-the-flu. More people in the US died have died this year from slipping on banana peels than died from coronavirus (zero).
It's bullshit fake news. But then what did you expect from the trash supermarket tabloids? Fake News is the enemy of the people.
It's bullshit fake news. But then what did you expect from the trash supermarket tabloids? Fake News is the enemy of the people.
Erik !jzYkdX7lIw joined in and replied with this 6 years ago, 5 minutes later, 16 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #1,095,597
Soy drinkers at greatest risk
Kook !!rcSrAtaAC joined in and replied with this 6 years ago, 10 minutes later, 27 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #1,095,599
@1,095,594 (Meta !Sober//iZs)
But the Flu has been around much longer than the Corona Virus. Doesnt that skew the numbers?
But the Flu has been around much longer than the Corona Virus. Doesnt that skew the numbers?
Indy !UyKfhUGMbw (OP) replied with this 6 years ago, 9 minutes later, 37 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #1,095,603
Meta !Sober//iZs replied with this 6 years ago, 7 minutes later, 44 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #1,095,604
@1,095,599 (Kook !!rcSrAtaAC)
Actually that is an interesting question. Viruses mutate a lot and so you could say 2019 flu is not really the same virus as 2010 flu. But that is a good point and probably true.
Coronavirus is the same type of virus that causes the common cold and was discovered in the 1960s and is believed to go back thousands of years at least. The one everyone is upset about is a particularly virulent strain.
If you remember SARS from 2003, that was also a coronavirus. They got a handle on it pretty quickly and it was completely gone by 2004. I expect coronavirus to take a similar course.
Actually that is an interesting question. Viruses mutate a lot and so you could say 2019 flu is not really the same virus as 2010 flu. But that is a good point and probably true.
Coronavirus is the same type of virus that causes the common cold and was discovered in the 1960s and is believed to go back thousands of years at least. The one everyone is upset about is a particularly virulent strain.
If you remember SARS from 2003, that was also a coronavirus. They got a handle on it pretty quickly and it was completely gone by 2004. I expect coronavirus to take a similar course.
Kook !!rcSrAtaAC replied with this 6 years ago, 28 minutes later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #1,095,608
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You make a good point about it existing for a while. So it's like a very strong you? Im worried about that woman who caught it twice
Also I'm glad that you're optimistic about it. Working where I do, this is a real concern for me. We have a baby in the family, and I have so many residents that I love dearly
You make a good point about it existing for a while. So it's like a very strong you? Im worried about that woman who caught it twice
Also I'm glad that you're optimistic about it. Working where I do, this is a real concern for me. We have a baby in the family, and I have so many residents that I love dearly
Indy !UyKfhUGMbw (OP) replied with this 6 years ago, 52 minutes later, 2 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,095,619
@previous (Kook !!rcSrAtaAC)
Good thing it is just a liberal hoax. Glad we spent our money on a space force!
Good thing it is just a liberal hoax. Glad we spent our money on a space force!
Anonymous F joined in and replied with this 6 years ago, 24 minutes later, 2 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,095,625
@1,095,594 (Meta !Sober//iZs)
> You're over one hundred times more likely to die from the flu than coronavirus
Sure, but that doesn't make every cause of death less likely than the flu a liberal hoax. Telling people to stay calm is a responsible thing to do. Pretending very real health concerns are a hoax devised by your political enemies is paranoid and irresponsible. I'm a big fan of people ignoring media hype. I just wish they would shrug off sensationalist reporting after making a rational assessment about their risk. The free thinking and independent spirit of America shouldn't involve blaming problems on whoever the president fingers as his political enemies this week.
It would be nice if Trump didn't make public health issues or foreign relations or the market all about him for once. Seriously the guy has two settings: If things look good it's because of him. If things look bad it's because of some group people working to undermine him and it's all their fault.
Also, most of the sensational hype I've seen is coming from the right-wing fringe. It's not like Elizabeth Warren is selling buckets of rice and nano-silver cures. I wonder how the people at the Trump rally deal with that when they go back home and hear some pundit or pastor that they listen to telling them to prepare for the worst or that the end times are coming.
> You're over one hundred times more likely to die from the flu than coronavirus
Sure, but that doesn't make every cause of death less likely than the flu a liberal hoax. Telling people to stay calm is a responsible thing to do. Pretending very real health concerns are a hoax devised by your political enemies is paranoid and irresponsible. I'm a big fan of people ignoring media hype. I just wish they would shrug off sensationalist reporting after making a rational assessment about their risk. The free thinking and independent spirit of America shouldn't involve blaming problems on whoever the president fingers as his political enemies this week.
It would be nice if Trump didn't make public health issues or foreign relations or the market all about him for once. Seriously the guy has two settings: If things look good it's because of him. If things look bad it's because of some group people working to undermine him and it's all their fault.
Also, most of the sensational hype I've seen is coming from the right-wing fringe. It's not like Elizabeth Warren is selling buckets of rice and nano-silver cures. I wonder how the people at the Trump rally deal with that when they go back home and hear some pundit or pastor that they listen to telling them to prepare for the worst or that the end times are coming.
Anonymous G joined in and replied with this 6 years ago, 4 hours later, 6 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,095,637
I heard about trump saying that about the coronavirus and what i immediately thought was that he is doing his best to calm people because the stock market is possibly going into a horrendous panic, i thought it must look so bad economically since he would say something like that which will definitely cost him his second term if the virus keeps spreading at the current speed... Because it really is nothing like the flu at all. We are talking about hundreds of millions dead around the world.
However, I tried to find a video of him calling it a hoax and i did not find it, there was one video that seemed cut out of context, where he says "hoax" as a last part of a sentence and after starts talking about the virus.
However, I tried to find a video of him calling it a hoax and i did not find it, there was one video that seemed cut out of context, where he says "hoax" as a last part of a sentence and after starts talking about the virus.
Anonymous F replied with this 6 years ago, 1 hour later, 8 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,095,640
@previous (G)
From the context of his remarks in South Carolina last night, it sounds like he's referring to widespread concern over the outbreak being the hoax. I don't think he was questioning the existence of the virus itself. At least, I hope not. He rambles from sentence to sentence so it's hard to tell what point he intended to make with his statements. Trump has spent the week treating the virus as a real thing in all his other public communications, so I assume his remarks were intended to criticize news coverage as being a hoax. At least that's a generous reading. I guess it's possible he thinks the whole thing is made up just to smear him. He calls a lot of stuff hoaxes.
The thing is, news media in countries all over the world are following the outbreak with the same kind of concern as the American press. People are genuinely worried about it. I think he just wants to pretend that any bad news is about people treating him unfairly.
From the context of his remarks in South Carolina last night, it sounds like he's referring to widespread concern over the outbreak being the hoax. I don't think he was questioning the existence of the virus itself. At least, I hope not. He rambles from sentence to sentence so it's hard to tell what point he intended to make with his statements. Trump has spent the week treating the virus as a real thing in all his other public communications, so I assume his remarks were intended to criticize news coverage as being a hoax. At least that's a generous reading. I guess it's possible he thinks the whole thing is made up just to smear him. He calls a lot of stuff hoaxes.
The thing is, news media in countries all over the world are following the outbreak with the same kind of concern as the American press. People are genuinely worried about it. I think he just wants to pretend that any bad news is about people treating him unfairly.
Green !StaYqkzUPc joined in and replied with this 6 years ago, 30 minutes later, 8 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,095,643
I hope he's right. The coronavirus is scary. We'll probably get virus deniers soon.
Anonymous G replied with this 6 years ago, 3 minutes later, 8 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,095,644
@1,095,640 (F)
I feel like the news were way too slow to catch on and even the WHO itself was too slow to catch on. There's been a systematic failure to realize the seriousness of the situation in adequate time. There was a whistle blower in America, said that staff treating the Americans that came from wuhan, said they sometimes didn't even wear masks. There's even a global shortage of masks now. I can only hope everyone realizes soon that we need to bite the bullet and be miserable at home for some time, it's going to be the only way to contain this but we see from China that the virus still spreads even with their authoritarian policies. It's going to have to be a long ass time of not living like we used to, until there's finally a cure.
I feel like the news were way too slow to catch on and even the WHO itself was too slow to catch on. There's been a systematic failure to realize the seriousness of the situation in adequate time. There was a whistle blower in America, said that staff treating the Americans that came from wuhan, said they sometimes didn't even wear masks. There's even a global shortage of masks now. I can only hope everyone realizes soon that we need to bite the bullet and be miserable at home for some time, it's going to be the only way to contain this but we see from China that the virus still spreads even with their authoritarian policies. It's going to have to be a long ass time of not living like we used to, until there's finally a cure.
dreamworks joined in and replied with this 6 years ago, 1 hour later, 10 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,095,653
Meta !Sober//iZs replied with this 6 years ago, 16 hours later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #1,095,905
@1,095,608 (Kook !!rcSrAtaAC)
> You make a good point about it existing for a while. So it's like a very strong you? Im worried about that woman who caught it twice
Yeah I think it'll just be like a bad flu.
> Also I'm glad that you're optimistic about it. Working where I do, this is a real concern for me. We have a baby in the family, and I have so many residents that I love dearly
Having seen the SARS, Bird Flu, and Ebola pandemics come and go in the past 20 years, I really don't see why this will be any different.
Fear makes no sense because there's nothing you can really do to stop it (except the obvious wash hands, use hand sanitizer, try to avoid sick people, etc).
> You make a good point about it existing for a while. So it's like a very strong you? Im worried about that woman who caught it twice
Yeah I think it'll just be like a bad flu.
> Also I'm glad that you're optimistic about it. Working where I do, this is a real concern for me. We have a baby in the family, and I have so many residents that I love dearly
Having seen the SARS, Bird Flu, and Ebola pandemics come and go in the past 20 years, I really don't see why this will be any different.
Fear makes no sense because there's nothing you can really do to stop it (except the obvious wash hands, use hand sanitizer, try to avoid sick people, etc).
Fake anon !ZkUt8arUCU replied with this 6 years ago, 3 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #1,095,906
@previous (Meta !Sober//iZs)
SARS and Bird Flu never infected as many people/countries as this virus, and Ebola has an enormous mortality rate so its pandemic potential is inherently kind of constrained. This one seems bad. Hard to say how bad. Somewhere between a couple thousand dead and 10 million + dead is a pretty big range.
SARS and Bird Flu never infected as many people/countries as this virus, and Ebola has an enormous mortality rate so its pandemic potential is inherently kind of constrained. This one seems bad. Hard to say how bad. Somewhere between a couple thousand dead and 10 million + dead is a pretty big range.
Meta !Sober//iZs replied with this 6 years ago, 6 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #1,095,909
@1,095,625 (F)
I never said it was a hoax. I'm sure it's quite real and the virus works more or less as advertised.
It's like you know how some Fox News viewer will get upset about radical Islamic terrorism and how we need a Muslim ban and then someone else responds that actually more Americans died from shark attacks last year than Islamic terrorism? Yes, Islamic terrorism is a real bad thing and we need to prevent it but your odds of getting Allahu Akbar'ed on your next trip to Walmart are pretty low and in fact the Walmart cart full of processed HFCS trans fats you push up to the register is really more what you should be afraid of in terms of dying from.
I think the media is hyping coronavirus and trying to scare the shit out of people not because of animosity to Trump or indeed politics at all. I think they would do the exact same thing if Hillary had won or Obama got a third term. They do it because it drives views and clicks and money.
I never said it was a hoax. I'm sure it's quite real and the virus works more or less as advertised.
It's like you know how some Fox News viewer will get upset about radical Islamic terrorism and how we need a Muslim ban and then someone else responds that actually more Americans died from shark attacks last year than Islamic terrorism? Yes, Islamic terrorism is a real bad thing and we need to prevent it but your odds of getting Allahu Akbar'ed on your next trip to Walmart are pretty low and in fact the Walmart cart full of processed HFCS trans fats you push up to the register is really more what you should be afraid of in terms of dying from.
I think the media is hyping coronavirus and trying to scare the shit out of people not because of animosity to Trump or indeed politics at all. I think they would do the exact same thing if Hillary had won or Obama got a third term. They do it because it drives views and clicks and money.
Fake anon !ZkUt8arUCU replied with this 6 years ago, 4 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #1,095,910
@1,095,594 (Meta !Sober//iZs)
Sorry this is still such a dumb point to me. The flu is a known virus, has a vaccine, and routinely infects a predictable percentage of the population, with a mortality rate of about .1%. The coronavirus is brand new, has no vaccine, has only just begun infecting people in the US, and has a mortality rate comfortably north of .1%. If the Coronavirus infects only as many people as the average flu then an order of magnitude more will die...on the low end. This is such an incredibly bad understanding of the threat posed.
Comparing the number of people Coronavirus has killed in the U.S. over a span of less than 2 weeks to the total number of people we expect to die in a given year from the flu is WILDLY AND FLAGRANTLY wrong.
Sorry this is still such a dumb point to me. The flu is a known virus, has a vaccine, and routinely infects a predictable percentage of the population, with a mortality rate of about .1%. The coronavirus is brand new, has no vaccine, has only just begun infecting people in the US, and has a mortality rate comfortably north of .1%. If the Coronavirus infects only as many people as the average flu then an order of magnitude more will die...on the low end. This is such an incredibly bad understanding of the threat posed.
Comparing the number of people Coronavirus has killed in the U.S. over a span of less than 2 weeks to the total number of people we expect to die in a given year from the flu is WILDLY AND FLAGRANTLY wrong.
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Meta !Sober//iZs replied with this 6 years ago, 7 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #1,095,912
@1,095,906 (Fake anon !ZkUt8arUCU)
I guess that's the other part too. We can't really gauge it till it's over. SARS topped out at 8,098 cases though had a much higher mortality rate (9.6% vs 2-3%)
Keep in mind too I'm talking about this from the perspective of someone in Houston. If I were in Wuhan, China or Monrovia, Liberia (or if I had regular travel to such areas) my outlook might be a lot different.
As far as I can tell there's no point in being afraid and nothing really you can do anyway. There's no vaccine, no antiviral treatment, nothing you can do besides the usual handwashing/sanitizing (I guess you could wear one of those surgical masks?). Do you hide under the bed and not leave the house till it's over? Does Trump seal the borders and ban international travel until it's over? (that'll go over real well in the media...). All you can do is sort of just hope for the best.
I guess that's the other part too. We can't really gauge it till it's over. SARS topped out at 8,098 cases though had a much higher mortality rate (9.6% vs 2-3%)
Keep in mind too I'm talking about this from the perspective of someone in Houston. If I were in Wuhan, China or Monrovia, Liberia (or if I had regular travel to such areas) my outlook might be a lot different.
As far as I can tell there's no point in being afraid and nothing really you can do anyway. There's no vaccine, no antiviral treatment, nothing you can do besides the usual handwashing/sanitizing (I guess you could wear one of those surgical masks?). Do you hide under the bed and not leave the house till it's over? Does Trump seal the borders and ban international travel until it's over? (that'll go over real well in the media...). All you can do is sort of just hope for the best.
Anonymous F replied with this 6 years ago, 1 minute later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #1,095,913
@1,095,909 (Meta !Sober//iZs)
On the bright side, I haven't heard any crazy theories about Trump enslaving a disarmed populace in FEMA camps.
On the bright side, I haven't heard any crazy theories about Trump enslaving a disarmed populace in FEMA camps.
Anonymous G replied with this 6 years ago, 2 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #1,095,914
@1,095,910 (Fake anon !ZkUt8arUCU)
Three days ago i think, even the bbc was "well the flu kills many more". Can you believe that? The strategy now is to implement large scale quarantines to slow the virus down so that the Healthcare system isn't fucked because with useless hospitals, it's at least north of 12%, the fatality rate that is.
Three days ago i think, even the bbc was "well the flu kills many more". Can you believe that? The strategy now is to implement large scale quarantines to slow the virus down so that the Healthcare system isn't fucked because with useless hospitals, it's at least north of 12%, the fatality rate that is.
Fake anon !ZkUt8arUCU replied with this 6 years ago, 3 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #1,095,915
@1,095,912 (Meta !Sober//iZs)
Fear is irrational I agree. Do what you can to avoid the disease. If you do get it, you have on average a 98% chance of not dying which is uh...better than a 98% chance of not living I suppose, but is still less than ideal. And 2% is probably skewed towards the elderly and immunocompromised. If you are in your 20s-40s and not sickly you will probably be fine even if you do get it. I'm less worried about me and more worried about people worse off. People without health insurance, who cant afford to see a doctor, etc. Also the response to this is being overseen by literally the dumbest fucking troglodyte toadies Trump hasn't managed to throw a tantrum over and fire yet, so we are probably fucked six ways from Sunday and just haven't realized it yet lol. Wonderful.
Fear is irrational I agree. Do what you can to avoid the disease. If you do get it, you have on average a 98% chance of not dying which is uh...better than a 98% chance of not living I suppose, but is still less than ideal. And 2% is probably skewed towards the elderly and immunocompromised. If you are in your 20s-40s and not sickly you will probably be fine even if you do get it. I'm less worried about me and more worried about people worse off. People without health insurance, who cant afford to see a doctor, etc. Also the response to this is being overseen by literally the dumbest fucking troglodyte toadies Trump hasn't managed to throw a tantrum over and fire yet, so we are probably fucked six ways from Sunday and just haven't realized it yet lol. Wonderful.
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Anonymous J joined in and replied with this 6 years ago, 2 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #1,095,916
@1,095,914 (G)
The Bubonic Plague has killed many more people than Ebola. Therefore, Ebola is no big deal. Trump logic.
The Bubonic Plague has killed many more people than Ebola. Therefore, Ebola is no big deal. Trump logic.
Meta !Sober//iZs replied with this 6 years ago, 6 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #1,095,918
@1,095,625 (F)
It would be nice if Trump didn't make public health issues or foreign relations or the market all about him for once. Seriously the guy has two settings: If things look good it's because of him. If things look bad it's because of some group people working to undermine him and it's all their fault.
I think the absolute best thing the media could do is a news blackout of Trump. This would absolutely kill him. If they had done this in the primaries for a few months in 2015 the whole campaign would have been a forgotten footnote. The fact the "mainstream media" (yeah I kinda gag a bit saying it but there's no better term for the respected major news organizations) hasn't done this is all the proof I need that there's not some organized media conspiracy against Trump. If they all stop talking about him, then I'm going to get suspicious.
@1,095,913 (F)
> On the bright side, I haven't heard any crazy theories about Trump enslaving a disarmed populace in FEMA camps.
Oh yeah I forgot about those ?
I remember there was one called operation... something or other where they were going to use Walmarts as detention centers.
It would be nice if Trump didn't make public health issues or foreign relations or the market all about him for once. Seriously the guy has two settings: If things look good it's because of him. If things look bad it's because of some group people working to undermine him and it's all their fault.
I think the absolute best thing the media could do is a news blackout of Trump. This would absolutely kill him. If they had done this in the primaries for a few months in 2015 the whole campaign would have been a forgotten footnote. The fact the "mainstream media" (yeah I kinda gag a bit saying it but there's no better term for the respected major news organizations) hasn't done this is all the proof I need that there's not some organized media conspiracy against Trump. If they all stop talking about him, then I'm going to get suspicious.
@1,095,913 (F)
> On the bright side, I haven't heard any crazy theories about Trump enslaving a disarmed populace in FEMA camps.
Oh yeah I forgot about those ?
I remember there was one called operation... something or other where they were going to use Walmarts as detention centers.
Meta !Sober//iZs double-posted this 6 years ago, 1 minute later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #1,095,919
@1,095,915 (Fake anon !ZkUt8arUCU)
What would Obama and his administration have done better (in terms of actually preventing/mitigating/containing the virus?)
What would Obama and his administration have done better (in terms of actually preventing/mitigating/containing the virus?)
Fake anon !ZkUt8arUCU replied with this 6 years ago, 8 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #1,095,924
@previous (Meta !Sober//iZs)
Well for starters they would be less concerned about the stock market and running all the messaging through the VP's office and more concerned with actually planning a response to the virus. They also wouldn't have fired the pandemic response team to "save money" or whatever while running $1 trillion/year deficits. As for the specifics of what they are doing or not doing, that's all happening behind the scenes and we will only find out after shit hits the fan.
Well for starters they would be less concerned about the stock market and running all the messaging through the VP's office and more concerned with actually planning a response to the virus. They also wouldn't have fired the pandemic response team to "save money" or whatever while running $1 trillion/year deficits. As for the specifics of what they are doing or not doing, that's all happening behind the scenes and we will only find out after shit hits the fan.
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chill dog !!81dzJNNYL joined in and replied with this 6 years ago, 14 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #1,095,928
@1,095,910 (Fake anon !ZkUt8arUCU)
> Comparing the number of people Coronavirus has killed in the U.S. over a span of less than 2 weeks to the total number of people we expect to die in a given year from the flu is WILDLY AND FLAGRANTLY wrong
Especially considering the incubation period is at least two weeks...
> Comparing the number of people Coronavirus has killed in the U.S. over a span of less than 2 weeks to the total number of people we expect to die in a given year from the flu is WILDLY AND FLAGRANTLY wrong
Especially considering the incubation period is at least two weeks...
Anonymous F replied with this 6 years ago, 1 minute later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #1,095,929
@1,095,918 (Meta !Sober//iZs)
> I remember there was one called operation... something or other where they were going to use Walmarts as detention centers.
I wanna say Operation Darkstar but I think that's from the Amerigeddon movie. A bunch of the suspected Walmart camps were in Texas though.
> I remember there was one called operation... something or other where they were going to use Walmarts as detention centers.
I wanna say Operation Darkstar but I think that's from the Amerigeddon movie. A bunch of the suspected Walmart camps were in Texas though.
Fake anon !ZkUt8arUCU replied with this 6 years ago, 4 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #1,095,932
@1,095,928 (chill dog !!81dzJNNYL)
So you're saying I should not start my "free hugs to people who are coughing a lot" business?
So you're saying I should not start my "free hugs to people who are coughing a lot" business?
Anonymous G replied with this 6 years ago, 5 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #1,095,936
@1,095,916 (J)
He and a lot of people are probably going to excuse themselves by saying that it was all about preventing a panic but I don't think anyone will buy it. Sometimes you should be afraid and you should panic, at least rather then doing nothing.
He and a lot of people are probably going to excuse themselves by saying that it was all about preventing a panic but I don't think anyone will buy it. Sometimes you should be afraid and you should panic, at least rather then doing nothing.
chill dog !!81dzJNNYL replied with this 6 years ago, 4 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #1,095,939
Anonymous F replied with this 6 years ago, 1 minute later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #1,095,940
Fake anon !ZkUt8arUCU replied with this 6 years ago, 2 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #1,095,942
@1,095,939 (chill dog !!81dzJNNYL)
No disrespect to you or those people but that was objectively incorrect and anyone who coughs should be hosed down with disinfecting spray, not hugged.
No disrespect to you or those people but that was objectively incorrect and anyone who coughs should be hosed down with disinfecting spray, not hugged.
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Anonymous L joined in and replied with this 6 years ago, 2 hours later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #1,095,951
I read that he was referring to Democrats talking shit about the corinavirus response not being adequate. That's the hoax. I bet no one has any actual evidence he called the virus itself a hoax.
It's typical fake news if that's it. Typical gullible retard leftists too. It reminds me of the "fine people on both sides" hoax that was out of context and deceptively edited. When you watch the video or read the transcript it's immediately clear it's bullshit fake news and he was talking about the two groups there with different opinions on statues and not the Nazis that also showed up.
I'm not surprised the "orange man bad" crowd flock to fake news though. It's like watching alien abduction or Bigfoot believers at this point, and I love them for it lol
It's typical fake news if that's it. Typical gullible retard leftists too. It reminds me of the "fine people on both sides" hoax that was out of context and deceptively edited. When you watch the video or read the transcript it's immediately clear it's bullshit fake news and he was talking about the two groups there with different opinions on statues and not the Nazis that also showed up.
I'm not surprised the "orange man bad" crowd flock to fake news though. It's like watching alien abduction or Bigfoot believers at this point, and I love them for it lol
Anonymous F replied with this 6 years ago, 37 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #1,095,955
@previous (L)
Luckily, a reporter asked him to clarify his hoax remarks on Saturday. Trump had this pearl of wisdom to offer:
It sounds like he thinks that people are blaming him. Although I haven't heard anyone blaming him for the virus. I get the distinct impression that someone told him to stop calling everything 'fake news' and so he's using the word 'hoax' instead now even when it doesn't make much sense. Or he genuinely thinks 'criticism' and 'hoax' are synonyms.
Luckily, a reporter asked him to clarify his hoax remarks on Saturday. Trump had this pearl of wisdom to offer:
No. No. No. Hoax referring to the action that they take to try and pin this on somebody because we’ve done such a good job. The hoax is on them not… I’m not talking about what’s happening here. I’m talking what they’re doing. That’s the hoax. That’s just a continuation of the hoax, whether it’s the impeachment hoax or the Russia, Russia, Russia hoax. This is what I’m talking about. Certainly not referring to this. How could anybody refer to this? This is very serious stuff, but the way they refer to it because these people have done such an incredible job and I don’t like it when they are criticizing these people and that’s the hoax. That’s what I’m talking about.
It sounds like he thinks that people are blaming him. Although I haven't heard anyone blaming him for the virus. I get the distinct impression that someone told him to stop calling everything 'fake news' and so he's using the word 'hoax' instead now even when it doesn't make much sense. Or he genuinely thinks 'criticism' and 'hoax' are synonyms.
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@1,095,910 (Fake anon !ZkUt8arUCU)
The flu has many different strains though and the jab is really only effective for the previous years flu.
The flu has many different strains though and the jab is really only effective for the previous years flu.
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@1,095,955 (F)
The MSM is just continuing to take jabs at him with this...like they have with every other situation, period.
Any report they do about anything they make deletorious comments about him that are negative and demeaning. It's a never ending campaign of propaganda designed to instill distrust and suspicion of him in the minds of the American people.
It's sickening that this has gone on since his inauguration day. The Liberalcrats NEED to be exterminated for their horrible and disgusting behavior.
The MSM is just continuing to take jabs at him with this...like they have with every other situation, period.
Any report they do about anything they make deletorious comments about him that are negative and demeaning. It's a never ending campaign of propaganda designed to instill distrust and suspicion of him in the minds of the American people.
It's sickening that this has gone on since his inauguration day. The Liberalcrats NEED to be exterminated for their horrible and disgusting behavior.
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OP always defends Communist China, yet tears apart Trump. Trump of course is a world class idiot. China is a world class idiot of a country because among so many reasons, they still make Tuberculous available cost free to the general population. That said look at this.Dr Li Wenliang, who was hailed a hero for raising the alarm about the coronavirus in the early days of the outbreak, has died of the infection.
His death was confirmed by the Wuhan hospital where he worked and was being treated, following conflicting reports about his condition on state media.
Dr Li, 34, tried to send a message to fellow medics about the outbreak at the end of December. Three days later police paid him a visit and told him to stop. He returned to work and caught the virus from a patient. He had been in hospital for at least three weeks.
He posted his story from his hospital bed last month on social media site Weibo.
"Hello everyone, this is Li Wenliang, an ophthalmologist at Wuhan Central Hospital," the post begins.
It was a stunning insight into the botched response by local authorities in Wuhan in the early weeks of the coronavirus outbreak.
Dr Li was working at the centre of the outbreak in December when he noticed seven cases of a virus that he thought looked like Sars - the virus that led to a global epidemic in 2003. The cases were thought to come from the Huanan Seafood market in Wuhan and the patients were in quarantine in his hospital.
On 30 December he sent a message to fellow doctors in a chat group warning them about the outbreak and advising they wear protective clothing to avoid infection.
What Dr Li didn't know then was that the disease that had been discovered was an entirely new coronavirus.
Four days later he was summoned to the Public Security Bureau where he was told to sign a letter. In the letter he was accused of "making false comments" that had "severely disturbed the social order".
"We solemnly warn you: If you keep being stubborn, with such impertinence, and continue this illegal activity, you will be brought to justice - is that understood?" Underneath in Dr Li's handwriting is written: "Yes, I do."
He was one of eight people who police said were being investigated for "spreading rumours".
At the end of January, Dr Li published a copy of the letter on Weibo and explained what had happened. In the meantime, local authorities had apologised to him but that apology came too late.
For the first few weeks of January officials in Wuhan were insisting that only those who came into contact with infected animals could catch the virus. No guidance was issued to protect doctors.
But just a week after his visit from the police, Dr Li was treating a woman with glaucoma. He didn't know that she had been infected with the new coronavirus.
In his Weibo post he describes how on 10 January he started coughing, the next day he had a fever and two days later he was in hospital. His parents also fell ill and were taken to hospital.
It was 10 days later - on 20 January - that China declared the outbreak an emergency.
Dr Li says he was tested several times for coronavirus, all of them came back negative.
On 30 January he posted again: "Today nucleic acid testing came back with a positive result, the dust has settled, finally diagnosed."
He punctuated the short post with an emoji of a dog with its eyes rolled back, tongue hanging out.
Not surprisingly the post received thousands of comments and words of support.
"Dr Li Wenliang is a hero," one user said, worrying about what his story says about their country. "In the future, doctors will be more afraid to issue early warnings when they find signs of infectious diseases."
"A safer public health environment… requires tens of millions of Li Wenliang."
chill dog !!81dzJNNYL replied with this 6 years ago, 1 hour later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #1,096,036
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Was his inauguration speech that bad? Cause that's when they starting hollering about impeaching him.
Was his inauguration speech that bad? Cause that's when they starting hollering about impeaching him.
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@1,095,978 (O)
> It's a never ending campaign of propaganda designed to instill distrust and suspicion of him in the minds of the American people.
LOL or it's a free country where people are allowed to criticize their government. How your double standard is applied just depends on who is being criticized no doubt.
@1,095,957 (chill dog !!81dzJNNYL)
> it's terrifying how he's completely unable to make a clear sentence
I'm sure part of why it seems so muddled is because it's a transcript of his extemporaneous answers to the press. Even granting that he might be stumbling to find words on the fly, he doesn't seem to have an ability to communicate clearly. A lot of his sentences, or fragments of sentences, continue some previous thought and rely on 'this' and 'that' to define the subject. After he says 'this' or 'that' a few times, the meaning of those words fades and he could conceivably be talking about any number of things he mentioned previously.
It's an interesting strategy for a public speaker. If he just came out and said "Bernie Sanders has accused me of X!" then that statement could be evaluated based on some evidence that he has to present. Instead there always seems to be a nebulous "them" that could be public figures, political rivals, people in the media, or people in general. And that "them" is always busy doing some nebulous "that" to plot against him.
> It's a never ending campaign of propaganda designed to instill distrust and suspicion of him in the minds of the American people.
LOL or it's a free country where people are allowed to criticize their government. How your double standard is applied just depends on who is being criticized no doubt.
@1,095,957 (chill dog !!81dzJNNYL)
> it's terrifying how he's completely unable to make a clear sentence
I'm sure part of why it seems so muddled is because it's a transcript of his extemporaneous answers to the press. Even granting that he might be stumbling to find words on the fly, he doesn't seem to have an ability to communicate clearly. A lot of his sentences, or fragments of sentences, continue some previous thought and rely on 'this' and 'that' to define the subject. After he says 'this' or 'that' a few times, the meaning of those words fades and he could conceivably be talking about any number of things he mentioned previously.
It's an interesting strategy for a public speaker. If he just came out and said "Bernie Sanders has accused me of X!" then that statement could be evaluated based on some evidence that he has to present. Instead there always seems to be a nebulous "them" that could be public figures, political rivals, people in the media, or people in general. And that "them" is always busy doing some nebulous "that" to plot against him.
Anonymous M replied with this 6 years ago, 2 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #1,096,099
@previous (F)
> Even granting that he might be stumbling to find words on the fly, he doesn't seem to have an ability to communicate clearly. A lot of his sentences, or fragments of sentences, continue some previous thought and rely on 'this' and 'that' to define the subject. After he says 'this' or 'that' a few times, the meaning of those words fades and he could conceivably be talking about any number of things he mentioned previously.
That’s logorrhea.
> Even granting that he might be stumbling to find words on the fly, he doesn't seem to have an ability to communicate clearly. A lot of his sentences, or fragments of sentences, continue some previous thought and rely on 'this' and 'that' to define the subject. After he says 'this' or 'that' a few times, the meaning of those words fades and he could conceivably be talking about any number of things he mentioned previously.
That’s logorrhea.
Syntax joined in and replied with this 6 years ago, 2 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #1,096,100
Wait wot?
Went to Wharton school of finance Yet did NOT get a degree in business - Bet you had no clue
And says was a good student? Look up his grades and he says he will SUE if school releases them.
Who goes Bankrupt multiple times - The airline he bought he sold at a loss and that Airline ends up making money when run by some real business person
Granted he is a great snake oil salesman a modern day PT Barnum
Under IRS Audit longer than my daughter has been in Med school - Oh and she is now a full MD but at Mass Gen for Residency in 3rd year
I no her grades and she has no clue who I B- Go find Trumps grades LoLoL
Great snake oil salesman - Trump stakes read the reviews LoL - Perhaps wooden teeth wood have helped that now failed business. Trump University he was sued and sued said he wood not settle well guess what - He sure DID - Just Snake Oil and was busted
Yet I can see how a low down drunk who was booted out of Navy for being a traitor to the asshole of his bunkmate - Is the type of Sailor that supports Trump with Bone spurs that just overnight disappeared - In the same way Bert disappeared from US Navy - AND HOW does one fail swabbing decks?
Went to Wharton school of finance Yet did NOT get a degree in business - Bet you had no clue
And says was a good student? Look up his grades and he says he will SUE if school releases them.
Who goes Bankrupt multiple times - The airline he bought he sold at a loss and that Airline ends up making money when run by some real business person
Granted he is a great snake oil salesman a modern day PT Barnum
Under IRS Audit longer than my daughter has been in Med school - Oh and she is now a full MD but at Mass Gen for Residency in 3rd year
I no her grades and she has no clue who I B- Go find Trumps grades LoLoL
Great snake oil salesman - Trump stakes read the reviews LoL - Perhaps wooden teeth wood have helped that now failed business. Trump University he was sued and sued said he wood not settle well guess what - He sure DID - Just Snake Oil and was busted
Yet I can see how a low down drunk who was booted out of Navy for being a traitor to the asshole of his bunkmate - Is the type of Sailor that supports Trump with Bone spurs that just overnight disappeared - In the same way Bert disappeared from US Navy - AND HOW does one fail swabbing decks?
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chill dog !!81dzJNNYL replied with this 6 years ago, 14 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #1,096,110
@1,096,097 (F)
The amount of flip flopping he does is incredible too. He's taken like every side on every issue.
On minimum wage:
Aug 2015
> Trump: “I want to keep the minimum wage pretty much where it is right now —”
Nov 10 2015
> Cavuto: “So do not raise the minimum wage?”
> Trump: “I would not do it.”
Nov 12 2015
> Trump: I’ll say raise the minimum wage to $15.
May 4 2016
> Blitzer: But you’re opening to raising the minimum wage?
> Trump: I’m open to doing something with it, because I don’t like that [$7.25 federal minimum wage].
May 8 2016
> Trump: I don’t know how people make it on $7.25 an hour. Now, with that being said, I would like to see an increase of some magnitude. But I’d rather leave it to the states. Let the states decide.
May 12 2016
> Goofy Elizabeth Warren lied when she says I want to abolish the Federal Minimum Wage. See media—asking for increase!
July 26 2016
> O’Reilly: There has to be a federal minimum wage. What would you set the federal minimum wage?
> Trump: There doesn’t have to be. Well, I would leave it and raise it somewhat.
> O’Reilly: Give me a number. Ten [dollars]?
> Trump: I would say 10. I would say 10.
July 27 2016
> “The minimum wage has to go up. People are — at least $10, but it has to go up...So I would like to raise it to at least $10"
From https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/fact-checker/wp/2016/08/03/a-guide-to-all-of-donald-trumps-flip-flops-on-the-minimum-wage/
The amount of flip flopping he does is incredible too. He's taken like every side on every issue.
On minimum wage:
Aug 2015
> Trump: “I want to keep the minimum wage pretty much where it is right now —”
Nov 10 2015
> Cavuto: “So do not raise the minimum wage?”
> Trump: “I would not do it.”
Nov 12 2015
> Trump: I’ll say raise the minimum wage to $15.
May 4 2016
> Blitzer: But you’re opening to raising the minimum wage?
> Trump: I’m open to doing something with it, because I don’t like that [$7.25 federal minimum wage].
May 8 2016
> Trump: I don’t know how people make it on $7.25 an hour. Now, with that being said, I would like to see an increase of some magnitude. But I’d rather leave it to the states. Let the states decide.
May 12 2016
> Goofy Elizabeth Warren lied when she says I want to abolish the Federal Minimum Wage. See media—asking for increase!
July 26 2016
> O’Reilly: There has to be a federal minimum wage. What would you set the federal minimum wage?
> Trump: There doesn’t have to be. Well, I would leave it and raise it somewhat.
> O’Reilly: Give me a number. Ten [dollars]?
> Trump: I would say 10. I would say 10.
July 27 2016
> “The minimum wage has to go up. People are — at least $10, but it has to go up...So I would like to raise it to at least $10"
From https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/fact-checker/wp/2016/08/03/a-guide-to-all-of-donald-trumps-flip-flops-on-the-minimum-wage/
chill dog !!81dzJNNYL double-posted this 6 years ago, 3 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #1,096,114
/r/trumpcriticizestrump is wild to browse every now and then
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@1,096,110 (chill dog !!81dzJNNYL)
I suspect someone told him that the US largest employer Walmart, has most employees on Welfare because they qualify for Welfare even when full time at Walmart.
Even Trump is not so stupid that he thinks this is a good thing for US economy when US Gov is subsidizing Walmart as a biz
In USA some really dumb as all fuck stuff happens on regular basis.
I suspect someone told him that the US largest employer Walmart, has most employees on Welfare because they qualify for Welfare even when full time at Walmart.
Even Trump is not so stupid that he thinks this is a good thing for US economy when US Gov is subsidizing Walmart as a biz
In USA some really dumb as all fuck stuff happens on regular basis.
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Every single new hire at Walmart makes $22,880 per year plus a week of paid vacation, some sick time leave , etc. You cannot receive Food Stamps when that is your level of pay. Folks with dependents and plus a non working spouse of coure may be able to.
Every single new hire at Walmart makes $22,880 per year plus a week of paid vacation, some sick time leave , etc. You cannot receive Food Stamps when that is your level of pay. Folks with dependents and plus a non working spouse of coure may be able to.
chill dog !!81dzJNNYL replied with this 6 years ago, 50 seconds later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #1,096,126
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Isnt walmart notorious for keeping employees part time so they dont have to pay benefits
Isnt walmart notorious for keeping employees part time so they dont have to pay benefits
Anonymous F replied with this 6 years ago, 3 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #1,096,129
@1,096,110 (chill dog !!81dzJNNYL)
Yeah, he's pretty much the quintessential shallow politician who will say anything to get people behind him. If he surrounded himself with people like John Podesta rather than people like Roger Stone and Steve Bannon I can easily imagine he would have ended up another Bill Clinton and he would still be spouting conspiracy theories about Ted Cruz on Twitter.
Yeah, he's pretty much the quintessential shallow politician who will say anything to get people behind him. If he surrounded himself with people like John Podesta rather than people like Roger Stone and Steve Bannon I can easily imagine he would have ended up another Bill Clinton and he would still be spouting conspiracy theories about Ted Cruz on Twitter.
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@1,096,124 (O)
I am now out of time so let me leave you with THIS
Report: Walmart Workers Cost Taxpayers $6.2 Billion In Public Assistance
Ask Siri or Alexa or Google and find out details about HOW U yes U have been ripped OFF
$6.2 B I L L I O N
I am now out of time so let me leave you with THIS
Report: Walmart Workers Cost Taxpayers $6.2 Billion In Public Assistance
Ask Siri or Alexa or Google and find out details about HOW U yes U have been ripped OFF
$6.2 B I L L I O N
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@1,096,110 (chill dog !!81dzJNNYL)
Fake news much? You're taking the quote out of context.
You are full of shit and clutching at straws. But it's okay, every deranged leftie here is just the same as you and a quick look into it proves how retarded you are.
Clearly he is not saying he is going to raise the minimum wage to $15
Fake news much? You're taking the quote out of context.
I didn’t say that. Bret, we were talking about the minimum wage. … They said should we increase the minimum wage? And I’m saying that if we’re going to compete with other countries, we can’t do that because the wages would be too high. … I’ll say raise the minimum wage to $15. Raise the minimum wage to whatever it might be. But the problem we have is that our country is losing businesses. You look at corporate inversions and all the things that are happening. We have to compete with the rest of the world.
You are full of shit and clutching at straws. But it's okay, every deranged leftie here is just the same as you and a quick look into it proves how retarded you are.
Clearly he is not saying he is going to raise the minimum wage to $15
chill dog !!81dzJNNYL replied with this 6 years ago, 1 hour later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #1,096,166
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And the rest? There are multiple conflicting statements in that post.
This one is my favourite.
> O’Reilly: There has to be a federal minimum wage. What would you set the federal minimum wage?
> Trump: There doesn’t have to be. Well, I would leave it and raise it somewhat
And the rest? There are multiple conflicting statements in that post.
This one is my favourite.
> O’Reilly: There has to be a federal minimum wage. What would you set the federal minimum wage?
> Trump: There doesn’t have to be. Well, I would leave it and raise it somewhat