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Topic: Trans wrestler wins major title

Kook !!rcSrAtaAC started this discussion 6 years ago #96,642

Says male fans don't like her because she turns them on

https://www.thesun.co.uk/sport/10956253/nyla-rose-aew-transgender-champion/amp/?twitter_impression=true

Anonymous B joined in and replied with this 6 years ago, 19 minutes later[^] [v] #1,090,791

"The Beast"

Lol

Kook !!rcSrAtaAC (OP) replied with this 6 years ago, 5 minutes later, 24 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #1,090,793

Externally hosted image@previous (B)

Catherine !ttGirlsPl2 joined in and replied with this 6 years ago, 33 minutes later, 58 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #1,090,802

Holy shit! They actually let Nyla Rose win a match. Doesn’t really matter since they already fucked her up by having her lose to skinny petite Japanese women. Plus she sort of sucks on her own and is green as fuuuuuuck.

She’s a liability because she doesn’t know what the fuck she’s doing and could easily injury somebody. Plus she’s unauthentic as fuck and gets winded too easy. And thanks to AEW tracking win/loss records I can’t even take her seriously as a beast in their women’s division when she keeps losing to people she should be “squashing.”

But god damn, I have never thought I’d see her win a title in this promotion.

(Edited 1 minute later.)

Catherine !ttGirlsPl2 double-posted this 6 years ago, 3 minutes later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #1,090,804

And Jim Ross even slipped up on commentary too. Why the fuck was I not watching this?! This was something I’ve called since Double or Nothing.

Anonymous D joined in and replied with this 6 years ago, 5 seconds later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #1,090,805

Externally hosted image@1,090,793 (Kook !!rcSrAtaAC)
That is one Ugly as all fuck creature.
> she turns them on

More like they don't like "IT" because that person is an Outrage and Ugly over the top.

Catherine !ttGirlsPl2 replied with this 6 years ago, 9 minutes later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #1,090,807

As much as I hate having to defend Nyla Rose. I should point out that she is working heel (bad guy, don’t cancel me) which means she is likely kayfabing (portrayal of on-screen events as real) when she says those things since she is trying to generate heat (boos).

jodi !ariasXXmaE joined in and replied with this 6 years ago, 1 minute later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #1,090,808

@previous (Catherine !ttGirlsPl2)

> As much as I hate having to defend Nyla Rose. I should point out that she is working heel (bad guy, don’t cancel me) which means she is likely kayfabing (portrayal of on-screen events as real) when she says those things since she is trying to generate heat (boos).

why not just speak regular English about it

Anonymous D replied with this 6 years ago, 42 seconds later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #1,090,809

@1,090,807 (Catherine !ttGirlsPl2)
I am betting "It" takes acting classes but is NOT a member of actors equity.

Catherine !ttGirlsPl2 replied with this 6 years ago, 15 seconds later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #1,090,810

@1,090,808 (jodi !ariasXXmaE)
Terms sort of describe the product better once you know the meanings.

Catherine !ttGirlsPl2 double-posted this 6 years ago, 1 minute later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #1,090,811

@1,090,809 (D)
Acting classes are not not not the same as wrestling classes. Most wrestlers aren’t that good of an actor besides maybe The Rock, Rowdy Roddy Piper, Batista, and John Cena.

Sheila LaBoof joined in and replied with this 6 years ago, 1 minute later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #1,090,812

well I may as well post this youtube video that was recoommended earlier, where Father Ted writer is grilled a bit for his trans talk:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e79k6LILL1I

(Edited 37 seconds later.)

jodi !ariasXXmaE replied with this 6 years ago, 1 hour later, 2 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,090,830

@1,090,810 (Catherine !ttGirlsPl2)
it's just wrestling

Fake anon !ZkUt8arUCU joined in and replied with this 6 years ago, 7 hours later, 9 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,090,877

Now this is epic.

dreamworks joined in and replied with this 6 years ago, 2 minutes later, 9 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,090,880

You know this isn't a real sport right

Killer Lettuce? !HonkUK.BIE joined in and replied with this 6 years ago, 9 minutes later, 9 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,090,883

@previous (dreamworks)
It doesn't matter. A slightly noteworthy transsexual person did something, and kook can't have that.

(Edited 14 seconds later.)

tteh !GETFUCKED joined in and replied with this 6 years ago, 12 minutes later, 9 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,090,884

Externally hosted imageWatching women repeatedly be crushed by biological men with all the benefits their biology confers is pretty sad, tbh.

I liked the idea of a separate category but it seems that's an unpopular idea.

Image fix lmao

(Edited 3 years later.)

dreamworks replied with this 6 years ago, 10 minutes later, 9 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,090,885

@1,090,883 (Killer Lettuce? !HonkUK.BIE)
She didn't do anything though some director just decided they should have a trannie win

dreamworks double-posted this 6 years ago, 47 seconds later, 9 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,090,886

@1,090,884 (tteh !GETFUCKED)
what benefits does gender give you in professional wrestling??

Killer Lettuce? !HonkUK.BIE replied with this 6 years ago, 5 minutes later, 10 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,090,889

@1,090,885 (dreamworks)
"Winning" it and appearing in the news is still doing something

I know that wrestling is a lot of choreography but that wasn't really my point. I was just calling Kook a transphobe.

tteh !GETFUCKED replied with this 6 years ago, 1 minute later, 10 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,090,890

@1,090,886 (dreamworks)
I don't mean in wrestling alone. Any sport involving strength is obviously going to favour biological males.

Seeing women's records in e.g. powerlifting blown away is, to me, pretty sad.

Killer Lettuce? !HonkUK.BIE replied with this 6 years ago, 31 minutes later, 10 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,090,893

@previous (tteh !GETFUCKED)
In principle I agree with your point. It could be an unfair advantage. However, I decided to look into the research on the matter, and saw it's actually not as settled as you might assume:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Transgender_people_in_sports#Testosterone_and_athletic_ability

As a meta-review (study of several other studies) says:
Currently, there is no direct or consistent research suggesting transgender female individuals (or male individuals) have an athletic advantage at any stage of their transition (e.g. cross-sex hormones, gender-confirming surgery) and, therefore, competitive sport policies that place restrictions on transgender people need to be considered and potentially revised.

https://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/s40279-016-0621-y

I'd like to underline that I'm not necessarily agreeing that all trans people regardless of how much they've transitioned should immediately be allowed into any gender-segregated sport. It just seems like there's indication that it might be acceptable in many cases.

(Edited 8 minutes later.)

Killer Lettuce? !HonkUK.BIE double-posted this 6 years ago, 28 seconds later, 10 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,090,894

@1,090,890 (tteh !GETFUCKED)
Oh, and if you're referring to this specific powerlifting record, then it was later revoked:

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.washingtonpost.com/sports/2019/05/16/stripped-womens-records-transgender-powerlifter-asks-where-do-we-draw-line/%3foutputType=amp

(Sorry for the amp link, but it bypasses the Washington Post's paywall, behind which democracy is presumably dying in darkness).

(Edited 12 seconds later.)

dreamworks replied with this 6 years ago, 2 minutes later, 10 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,090,896

@1,090,890 (tteh !GETFUCKED)
Yes in an actual sport that is true. In this sport it is not because it barely involves physical contact

dreamworks double-posted this 6 years ago, 1 minute later, 10 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,090,898

@1,090,889 (Killer Lettuce? !HonkUK.BIE)
I know but getting angry about a trans person winning pro wrestling is like getting angry about a trans person winning a fight in a movie

dreamworks triple-posted this 6 years ago, 53 seconds later, 10 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,090,899

Also she has a script she is contractually obligated to follow

Killer Lettuce? !HonkUK.BIE replied with this 6 years ago, 1 minute later, 10 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,090,900

@1,090,898 (dreamworks)
Let's just agree that this topic is kinda dumb, despite our slightly different reasons for thinking that. Thanks.

Kook !!rcSrAtaAC (OP) replied with this 6 years ago, 54 minutes later, 11 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,090,913

I posted this because what she said, not because I am against it. It isn't a real sport

tteh !MemesToDNA replied with this 6 years ago, 32 seconds later, 11 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,090,915

@1,090,893 (Killer Lettuce? !HonkUK.BIE)
Yeah, unfortunately there really aren't many high-quality studies available. Look at the studies that review is analysing — all but two are interview-based (the strongest being Gooren and Bunck, and that's from 2004). One (Young men: gendered subjectivities and the physically active body) is just a discussion based on an interview of two transmen. And those are the 8 that passed the review's eligibility criteria.

Transwomen in elite sport: scientific and ethical considerations was an interesting read although it's paywalled so I had to use SciHub: https://sci-hub.tw/https://jme.bmj.com/content/45/6/395.full
To arrive at conclusion about the adequacy of the IOC (2015) guidelines, both scientific and normative analysis is required. The science section has shown that elite cis-men athletes have a performance advantage in almost all sports due to their higher testosterone levels, and other aspects of male physiology. Extrapolating from this it is plausible that transwomen retain some of that advantage. We acknowledge that these findings rest on extrapolations from male physiology, and encourage further specific scientific investigation regarding elite transwomen athletes. The normative section has shown that while inclusion is an important principle of sport, including elite sport, inclusion does not outweigh the importance of fairness for cis-women athletes—the performance advantage likely held by transwomen is not a ‘tolerable unfairness’. This is not an attempt to exclude transwomen from elite sport. Instead, we conclude that it is important to both extend and celebrate diversity, while maintaining fairness for cis-women in sport. To be simultaneously inclusive and fair at the elite level the male/ female binary must be discarded in favour of a more nuanced approach. We conclude that the gender binary in sport has perhaps had its day.

Fake anon !ZkUt8arUCU replied with this 6 years ago, 8 minutes later, 11 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,090,918

@1,090,913 (Kook !!rcSrAtaAC)
Do you agree with the statement?

Catherine !ttGirlsPl2 replied with this 6 years ago, 10 minutes later, 11 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,090,920

@1,090,890 (tteh !GETFUCKED)
Where does the strength come from though? HRT would reduce the muscle mass and if they are on testosterone blockers (as they should since that's standard) then shouldn't this make it harder to build mass? If not then fucking Chyna wouldn't have had to take testosterone to build herself up.

Catherine !ttGirlsPl2 double-posted this 6 years ago, 11 minutes later, 12 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,090,921

Wrestling is so god damn fake that it pisses me off. Kayfabe is dead and buried. Cody or Brandi Rhodes, whomever the booker maybe is clearly some sort of SJW who thought they were circumnavigating the whole trans athlete controversy but all they did was take a big dump on kayfabe.

AEW Fyter Fest - Riho vs Nyla Rose vs Yuka Sakazaki
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TSV5FG5313Y

This was one of the company's first pay-per-view events and not the first time Nyla Rose lost to a bunch of skinny women.

AEW Dynamite 2/12/2020 Austin - Riho v. Nyla Rose - AEW Women's Championship
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hq4MqgzCauo

And there was the match that inspired this thread.

It's mostly the finish (end) but from what I heard it was possibly one of the better matches of the night, but Riho was carrying Nyla's ass through most of it.

Killer Lettuce? !HonkUK.BIE replied with this 6 years ago, 39 seconds later, 12 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,090,922

@1,090,915 (tteh !MemesToDNA)
A very interesting paper, thanks for bringing it to my attention. The authors show a good grasp of the science involved and the ethical issues around this. Skimming it made me nostalgic for my psychology days, and when I used to argue about it on Minichan.

In summary, assumption 1 is true—testosterone provides an all-purpose benefit in almost all sports. Assumption 2 is false. A transwoman athlete with testosterone levels under 10nmol/L for 1 year will retain at least some of the physiological parame-
ters that underpin athletic performance. This, coupled with the fact that transwomen athletes are allowed to compete with more
than five times the testosterone level of a cis-woman, suggests transwomen have a performance advantage.

(Authors are discussing possible solutions)
Further restrict the IOC’s eligibility criteria for transwomen, by setting the maximum testosterone to a lower level. This approach is problematic because physical harm may result from requiring a transwoman to reduce her testosterone levels further. Further, it would not account for the performance advantage transwomen retain from earlier male physiology.

So, this is fairly compelling evidence that there is, at least usually, an innate advantage regardless of testosterone.

If this is indeed accurate, then I can accept the research's conclusions, as sad as it might be for trans athletes who work just as hard as their cis counterparts. Ethically speaking, they should have some place in professional sports, even of they can't always take records or compete in certain competitions and such.

I liked their suggestion of breaking down gender barriers in sports, though, which could be a way forward. I'm not sure what exactly the best way for that to work would be, but it could help.

Syntax replied with this 6 years ago, 1 hour later, 13 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,090,927

So are you all telling me that NONE of You - Not One of you has any idea of how Trans is actually doing serious damage to young teen girls (Born Girls) and taking away their birth rights because of a LAW on the books and it is the cause of serious emotional pain as well as costing many a career in sports.

Kook !!rcSrAtaAC (OP) replied with this 6 years ago, 53 minutes later, 14 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,090,966

@1,090,920 (Catherine !ttGirlsPl2)
Chyna was on steroids and her clitoris looked like a dick

dreamworks replied with this 6 years ago, 1 minute later, 14 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,090,967

@1,090,913 (Kook !!rcSrAtaAC)
But what she said was scripted by a writer

Kook !!rcSrAtaAC (OP) replied with this 6 years ago, 9 minutes later, 14 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,090,972

@previous (dreamworks)
You don't know that

dreamworks replied with this 6 years ago, 1 hour later, 15 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,090,993

@previous (Kook !!rcSrAtaAC)
That's how pro wrestling works

Sheila LaBoof replied with this 6 years ago, 8 minutes later, 15 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,091,000

asterisk use will jump through the fuckin roof

women's* sports

Kook !!rcSrAtaAC (OP) replied with this 6 years ago, 1 minute later, 15 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,091,001

@1,090,993 (dreamworks)
She can choose not to say inappropriate lines. It's called negotiation

(Edited 30 seconds later.)

Catherine !ttGirlsPl2 replied with this 6 years ago, 43 minutes later, 16 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,091,007

@1,090,972 (Kook !!rcSrAtaAC)
Wtf? Wrestling’s secrets were revealed long ago and how this works is easily searchable via Google. I may have to rethink my stance on Nyla Rose. It appears she might be the savior of kayfabe. Nevermind, that’s too painful for me to say for someone whose still green for almost a decade.

dreamworks replied with this 6 years ago, 5 minutes later, 16 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,091,009

@1,091,001 (Kook !!rcSrAtaAC)
negotiate using what leverage lol

dreamworks double-posted this 6 years ago, 47 seconds later, 16 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,091,010

@1,091,001 (Kook !!rcSrAtaAC)
Also you are complaining about something a fictional character said after a fictional fight

Kook !!rcSrAtaAC (OP) replied with this 6 years ago, 1 hour later, 17 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,091,035

@1,091,007 (Catherine !ttGirlsPl2)
@previous (dreamworks)
If she had called the audience, N Word Jims or something, you wouldn't just be blaming the writers. Both are liable

Also regular trannies say that transphobic people want to fuck them, regularly. So this is just similar nonsense

(Edited 1 minute later.)

Kook !!rcSrAtaAC (OP) double-posted this 6 years ago, 17 minutes later, 18 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,091,038

Let me explain in a different way, Catherine. If Poppy had said during an interview that trans women are sex pests, would you blame the writer?

dreamworks replied with this 6 years ago, 35 minutes later, 18 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,091,043

@1,091,035 (Kook !!rcSrAtaAC)

> If she had called the audience, N Word Jims or something, you wouldn't just be blaming the writers. Both are liable

I mean if we are talking about fictional n-word saying typically you would blame the writer. People get angry about Tarantino writing the n word, not Michael Madsen using it. Also she didn't use that word and wrestling shows are supposed to be silly so idk why you are taking this so seriously

> Also regular trannies say that transphobic people want to fuck them, regularly. So this is just similar nonsense

Then why link to an article describing a fictional instance instead of a story about one of these regular real ones


@previous (Kook !!rcSrAtaAC)
What writer

Catherine !ttGirlsPl2 replied with this 6 years ago, 6 minutes later, 18 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,091,044

@1,091,035 (Kook !!rcSrAtaAC)
You know wrestlers can also be doing it as part of character. Eric Bischoff, a former wrestling promoter, is famous for saying, "Controversy Creates Cash." This is true in the wrestling business. This is also why he lead the former World Championship Wrestling to great success for 81 consecutive weeks. There is a reason why the current era in wrestling is called "the reality era" because the lines between backstage politics and kayfabe are blurring. This is why it's hard to decipher if something a wrestler says is intentionally done to generate heat or if they are legitimately an asshole. There is even an industry term called "X-Pac heat" in which people not only hate the character and their work but the person as well. It's named after the ring name for Sean Waltman.

And there is another controversial figure in wrestling today. She isn't trans, but many people got on her for bullying and calling people the N-word. Her name is Tessa Blanchard. In fact, in spirit of Eric Bischoff, booking a match between Tessa Blanchard and Nyla Rose where both of them are allowed complete creative freedom would likely trigger so much butthurt from all sides that it could prove very profitable.

TESSA BLANCHARD
          (on stage)
     Nyla Rose, suuuuuure, you made history. You were the first transgender "woman" to win the women's title, but the one thing you're forgetting is that this was an accomplishment
     by another. The late and great Joan Laurer or also known as Chyna. The only difference is that she has both her X chromosomes. That's because she is an actual woman and you are
     nothing more than a mentally ill male.

NYLA ROSE
          (in ring, furious)
     If I'm a mentally ill male then you have some balls coming out here running your mouth, little girl.

TESSA BLANCHARD
          (unphased)
     Please. I'm not afraid of you because quite frankly, for as long as you've been in that ring, you're
     still green and a liability to any woman who crosses your path. You're just a gigantic clumsy Samoan
     n****r.

NYLA ROSE is phased and starts to fume. She exits the ring and begins to approach Tessa Blanchard who is ready for a fight.

I don't actively watch AEW so I'm not sure who could strike Nyla Rose from behind as she approaches but whatever...

Catherine !ttGirlsPl2 double-posted this 6 years ago, 2 minutes later, 18 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,091,045

@1,091,038 (Kook !!rcSrAtaAC)
That would probably be on her unless she rehearsed lines for the character role. Then it would be on whomever it was that wrote the line. Which still could have been her which means it would be on her. Plus I already have some suspicions that she might not like trans people due to a couple of lyrics, but I'm not sure whose input it was for that.

jodi !ariasXXmaE replied with this 6 years ago, 11 minutes later, 18 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,091,051

@1,091,035 (Kook !!rcSrAtaAC)

> If she had called the audience, N Word Jims or something, you wouldn't just be blaming the writers. Both are liable
>
> Also regular trannies say that transphobic people want to fuck them, regularly. So this is just similar nonsense

how the what

jodi !ariasXXmaE double-posted this 6 years ago, 10 seconds later, 19 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,091,052

smoke more kook

Catherine !ttGirlsPl2 replied with this 6 years ago, 6 minutes later, 19 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,091,064

Externally hosted imageAEW will be fucking fools if they don't cash in on this controversy. This is ripe for a storyline that hasn't been seen since the days of the Attitude Era in the mid-to-late nineties.

Even Val Venis tweeted about this even though it's kind of silly to complain about 'unfair advantage' in a 'sport' that is predetermined. Though I have a feeling he was being facetious.

I think I might have found an answer to my dilemma earlier as to who should jump Nyla Rose from behind.

(Edited 3 minutes later.)

Anonymous M joined in and replied with this 6 years ago, 51 seconds later, 19 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,091,065

@1,091,052 (jodi !ariasXXmaE)
how kook should one smoke?

jodi !ariasXXmaE replied with this 6 years ago, 5 minutes later, 19 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,091,067

@previous (M)
only true Kooks know

Kook !!rcSrAtaAC (OP) replied with this 6 years ago, 12 minutes later, 19 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,091,073

@1,091,045 (Catherine !ttGirlsPl2)
But if Titanic wrote the lines, and she chose to say them, who is it on?

Kook !!rcSrAtaAC (OP) double-posted this 6 years ago, 51 seconds later, 19 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,091,075

@1,091,052 (jodi !ariasXXmaE)
Trans women say that people who dislike them, are that way because they are attracted to them. Ask Catherine, they really say that

Catherine !ttGirlsPl2 replied with this 6 years ago, 42 seconds later, 19 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,091,076

@1,091,073 (Kook !!rcSrAtaAC)
Both if she agreed to say it of her own volition but given the controversy, there is also the possibility that she was manipulated into saying it.

Kook !!rcSrAtaAC (OP) replied with this 6 years ago, 11 seconds later, 19 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,091,077

@1,091,043 (dreamworks)
Titanic Sinclair

Kook !!rcSrAtaAC (OP) double-posted this 6 years ago, 20 seconds later, 19 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,091,078

@1,091,076 (Catherine !ttGirlsPl2)
You see her as too innocent

Catherine !ttGirlsPl2 replied with this 6 years ago, 42 seconds later, 19 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,091,080

@1,091,075 (Kook !!rcSrAtaAC)
I never heard a transwoman ever make that claim (besides Nyla who may or may not have been kayfabing).

Kook !!rcSrAtaAC (OP) replied with this 6 years ago, 47 seconds later, 19 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,091,082

@previous (Catherine !ttGirlsPl2)
You little, lying bitch

Catherine !ttGirlsPl2 replied with this 6 years ago, 44 seconds later, 19 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,091,083

@1,091,078 (Kook !!rcSrAtaAC)
I know she's not innocent. Alex, brother of Corey, even admitted that his brother, her, and Brittney were all crazy. Still doesn't mean she couldn't have been manipulable.

Kook !!rcSrAtaAC (OP) replied with this 6 years ago, 1 minute later, 19 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,091,086

@previous (Catherine !ttGirlsPl2)
She cheated on him! That proves that he wasn't in complete control

Catherine !ttGirlsPl2 replied with this 6 years ago, 11 seconds later, 19 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,091,087

@1,091,082 (Kook !!rcSrAtaAC)
I'm not lying. I could be misremembering but I really do not recall any transwomen that I met in real life or online ever make this claim.

Catherine !ttGirlsPl2 double-posted this 6 years ago, 41 seconds later, 19 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,091,088

@1,091,086 (Kook !!rcSrAtaAC)
True. That's something bad that she has done. Still doesn't really excuse what he or Brittney did in the whole thing.

Kook !!rcSrAtaAC (OP) replied with this 6 years ago, 0 seconds later, 19 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,091,089

@1,091,087 (Catherine !ttGirlsPl2)
I don't believe you, because Ive seen it all over Reddit and tumblr

Kook !!rcSrAtaAC (OP) double-posted this 6 years ago, 57 seconds later, 19 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,091,090

You can be a real, sneaky snake in the grass

Catherine !ttGirlsPl2 replied with this 6 years ago, 37 seconds later, 19 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,091,091

@1,091,089 (Kook !!rcSrAtaAC)
Then maybe that's why I lack the experience with it. I don't actively participate in trans subreddits or Tumblr. The only places I've been to that deal with transgender issues are /lgbt/ and /cd/. There may have been a couple of message boards (like ProBoards) but I'm not active in that world anymore.

dreamworks replied with this 6 years ago, 7 minutes later, 19 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,091,095

@1,091,077 (Kook !!rcSrAtaAC)
that's not comparable to the example in your op though. that tranny person was hired as an actor by a corporation who gave her lines. poppy and sinclair were creative partners with roughly equal input.

dreamworks double-posted this 6 years ago, 1 minute later, 19 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,091,097

@1,091,089 (Kook !!rcSrAtaAC)


lol

dreamworks triple-posted this 6 years ago, 15 seconds later, 19 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,091,098

@1,091,090 (Kook !!rcSrAtaAC)
lol

Killer Lettuce? !HonkUK.BIE replied with this 6 years ago, 25 minutes later, 20 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,091,115

@1,091,082 (Kook !!rcSrAtaAC)
Rude.

@1,091,089 (Kook !!rcSrAtaAC)
lol

Meta !Sober//iZs joined in and replied with this 6 years ago, 1 hour later, 21 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,091,155

@1,091,075 (Kook !!rcSrAtaAC)
Could you imagine if a cis man said "you only hate me cause you secretly wanna fuck me" ?

Catherine !ttGirlsPl2 replied with this 6 years ago, 58 minutes later, 22 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,091,185

@1,091,044 (Catherine !ttGirlsPl2)
I updated that segment.
TESSA BLANCHARD
          (on stage)
     Nyla Rose, suuuuuure, you made history. You were the first transgender "woman" to win the women's title, but the one thing you're forgetting is that this was an accomplishment
     by another. The late and great Joan Laurer or also known as Chyna. The only difference is that she has both her X chromosomes. That's because she is an actual woman and you are
     nothing more than a mentally ill male.

NYLA ROSE
          (in ring, furious)
     If I'm a mentally ill male then you have some balls coming out here running your mouth, little girl.

TESSA BLANCHARD
          (unphased)
     Please. I'm not afraid of you because quite frankly, for as long as you've been in that ring, you're
     still green and a liability to any woman who crosses your path. You're just a gigantic clumsy Samoan
     n****r.

NYLA ROSE is phased and starts to fume. She exits the ring and begins to approach Tessa Blanchard who is ready for a fight.

As NYLA ROSE gets closer to TESSA BLANCHARD she is struck from behind with a steel chair by SEAN MORLEY and sells it by falling to the ground.


JIM ROSS
          (displeased, surprised)
     By God... ? By God, is that Sean Morley? What is Sean Morley doing here?! Why did he just struck Nyla in the back?! Damn it!

TESSA BLANCHARD and SEAN MORLEY stand over NYLA ROSE.

TESSA BLANCHARD
     You see, "Nyla," you can never be in my division, but you are perfectly free to challenge this man right here.
     The man that all of the REAL ladies want and the man that all of the guys wish to be.
     You're a failure of a man and if it were possible, a failure of a woman.

JIM ROSS
     Now this is just uncalled for. God damn it.

SEAN MORLEY takes the microphone.

SEAN MORLEY
          (cocky)
     Hello biological ladies!

Catherine !ttGirlsPl2 double-posted this 6 years ago, 1 day later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #1,091,504

@previous (Catherine !ttGirlsPl2)
Made a follow-up, set the week after this segment.

TESSA BLANCHARD
          Sean, I don't need you defending me when I became the first woman to hold the Impact Wrestling world championship.
          And after I prove myself against that manbeast, Nyla Rose, maybe I'll challenge you.

SEAN MORLEY
          Hello biological lady... you know the Big Lebowski doesn't fight women. The Big Lebowski's biology wouldn't allow for that.
          Now you're impressive, but you are only pushing your luck because all of the men you faced. They were nothing like me.

TESSA BLANCHARD
          Nothing like you? I'm not some weak little girl like some diva from the past. I am the world champion.
          How about I come down there and show you just what this cisgirl can do?

                                        TESSA BLANCHARD drops the mic and proceeds to walk
                                        toward the ring.


                                        SEAN MORLEY is unscathed.

SEAN MORLEY
          Why don't you open those fists and allow the Big Lebowski to enter your heart?

                                        TESSA BLANCHARD charges at SEAN MORLEY with a crossbody
                                        followed excessive punches to the head.


JIM ROSS
          Bah god, bah god, Tessa Blanchard is taking it to Sean Morley! She's unafraid! She's unafraid! She means business! She means
          business!

                                        NYLA ROSE rushes down to the ring and comes to the aid of TESSA BLANCHARD.

JIM ROSS
          That's Nyla Rose! And she's helping Tessa Blanchard!

                                        The two of them remove SEAN MORLEY from the ring and proceed to exchange looks at one another.

                                        SEAN MORLEY looks at the two of them while he clutches his jaw and walks toward the entrance way.

Anonymous L joined in and replied with this 6 years ago, 26 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #1,091,515

@1,091,185 (Catherine !ttGirlsPl2)
@previous (Catherine !ttGirlsPl2)

You realize, these are less than 10 minutes of dialogue each, right?

Catherine !ttGirlsPl2 replied with this 6 years ago, 5 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #1,091,516

@previous (L)
Do those lines in each segment really exceed 10 minutes? :-(

chill dog !!81dzJNNYL joined in and replied with this 6 years ago, 20 hours later, 2 days after the original post[^] [v] #1,091,921

@1,090,927 (Syntax)
What now

Anonymous P joined in and replied with this 6 years ago, 20 hours later, 3 days after the original post[^] [v] #1,092,216

I used to get caught up in the wrestling drama, when I was nine years old.

jodi !ariasXXmaE replied with this 6 years ago, 20 hours later, 4 days after the original post[^] [v] #1,092,491

@1,091,504 (Catherine !ttGirlsPl2)
is one of the guys calling himself the big Lebowski

Anonymous Q joined in and replied with this 6 years ago, 51 minutes later, 4 days after the original post[^] [v] #1,092,513

Catherine wants to wrestle with Jazz

Catherine !ttGirlsPl2 replied with this 6 years ago, 21 hours later, 5 days after the original post[^] [v] #1,092,804

@previous (Q)
Nice projection.

@1,092,491 (jodi !ariasXXmaE)
Yes, it is.
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