Topic: Why can't we just ignore pain?
Anonymous A started this discussion 6 years ago #95,145
It's like yes, okay body, i realize something ain't right, please stop telling me. It doesn't listen though and it's so unfair because we are forced to listen to it.
freethinkerdangerous !Cs02iDB7RA joined in and replied with this 6 years ago, 3 minutes later[^] [v] #1,074,790
Existence is pain ._. that's just how it be. Numb it with alcohol and binge watching Netflix.
Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 6 years ago, 5 minutes later, 9 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #1,074,794
@previous (freethinkerdangerous !Cs02iDB7RA)I'm working on that as we speak but I can't help wondering if I can't get my hands on the insides of my brain somehow. For example, some people enjoy certain kind of consensual pain inflicted by their partners. What if i made life into my loving and sadistic partner, somehow?
Anonymous C joined in and replied with this 6 years ago, 9 minutes later, 18 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #1,074,800
Why can't I just ignore your meaningless navel-gazing topics? They are like a form of anti-philosophy.
Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 6 years ago, 2 minutes later, 21 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #1,074,802
freethinkerdangerous !Cs02iDB7RA replied with this 6 years ago, 1 minute later, 23 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #1,074,804
I like both of you very much :>
Anonymous D joined in and replied with this 6 years ago, 6 minutes later, 29 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #1,074,808
freethinkerdangerous !Cs02iDB7RA replied with this 6 years ago, 1 minute later, 31 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #1,074,810
freethinkerdangerous !Cs02iDB7RA double-posted this 6 years ago, 42 seconds later, 32 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #1,074,811
@previous (freethinkerdangerous !Cs02iDB7RA)
But it was more so the banter back and fourth that made me laugh
But it was more so the banter back and fourth that made me laugh
Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 6 years ago, 53 seconds later, 32 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #1,074,812
@1,074,810 (freethinkerdangerous !Cs02iDB7RA)
But you like us equally right? You like anon d more than me and anon c!?
But you like us equally right? You like anon d more than me and anon c!?
Dreamworks joined in and replied with this 6 years ago, 1 minute later, 33 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #1,074,813
Because then you would think you're better even tho you aren't
Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 6 years ago, 6 minutes later, 40 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #1,074,815
@previous (Dreamworks)
Alright but then what about the times you really know you ain't better despite the pain? Nobody walks/jumps around with half their leg missing, thinking they're fine.
Alright but then what about the times you really know you ain't better despite the pain? Nobody walks/jumps around with half their leg missing, thinking they're fine.
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Anonymous D replied with this 6 years ago, 17 minutes later, 58 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #1,074,819
Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 6 years ago, 7 minutes later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #1,074,820
Anonymous D replied with this 6 years ago, 11 minutes later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #1,074,828
Elfor, The Land Stander !!9NqxpFc1W joined in and replied with this 6 years ago, 6 minutes later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #1,074,830
The simple answer is that pain is a warning system, which tells the brain that there is something wrong. Which prevents us from over using a wounded hand, foot, leg, etc. thus making the wound worse.
It is possible to be born without the ability to feel pain, but life for these individuals tends to be difficult.
It is possible to be born without the ability to feel pain, but life for these individuals tends to be difficult.
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Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 6 years ago, 1 minute later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #1,074,831
@previous (Elfor, The Land Stander !!9NqxpFc1W)
Difficult and short. However I'm just puzzled because sometimes it's the pain that is the issue rather than whatever the pain is warning us about. Perhaps that's why we evolved to be able to take morphine.
Difficult and short. However I'm just puzzled because sometimes it's the pain that is the issue rather than whatever the pain is warning us about. Perhaps that's why we evolved to be able to take morphine.
Elfor, The Land Stander !!9NqxpFc1W replied with this 6 years ago, 2 minutes later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #1,074,832
@previous (A)
It's all part of keeping you from making it worse. If we were more insensitive to pain, people would take a lot more risks, many of which would be life threatening.
It's all part of keeping you from making it worse. If we were more insensitive to pain, people would take a lot more risks, many of which would be life threatening.
Anonymous D replied with this 6 years ago, 50 seconds later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #1,074,833
@1,074,831 (A)
> sometimes it's the pain that is the issue rather than whatever the pain is warning us about
Like when?
> sometimes it's the pain that is the issue rather than whatever the pain is warning us about
Like when?
Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 6 years ago, 5 minutes later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #1,074,834
@1,074,832 (Elfor, The Land Stander !!9NqxpFc1W)
Frankly I don't think the pain is there for a reason at all, not a meaningful one anyway. It's simply a evolutionary advantage to feel pain is what I'm getting at, it just so happens that it acts like a deterrent of further harm. However I digress, pain is sometimes felt without harm being done to you and this is what I find so infuriating, it's your own body working against your interest.
Frankly I don't think the pain is there for a reason at all, not a meaningful one anyway. It's simply a evolutionary advantage to feel pain is what I'm getting at, it just so happens that it acts like a deterrent of further harm. However I digress, pain is sometimes felt without harm being done to you and this is what I find so infuriating, it's your own body working against your interest.
Dreamworks replied with this 6 years ago, 59 seconds later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #1,074,835
Anonymous D replied with this 6 years ago, 17 seconds later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #1,074,836
Dreamworks replied with this 6 years ago, 13 seconds later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #1,074,837
Also they don't do that because their nerve endings tell them they're not fine with one leg
Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 6 years ago, 9 seconds later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #1,074,838
Dreamworks replied with this 6 years ago, 51 seconds later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #1,074,839
Sort of like boiling a frog alive innit
Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 6 years ago, 7 seconds later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #1,074,840
@1,074,835 (Dreamworks)
> How advanced do you think a nerve ending is
Not advanced enough, that's the point.
> How advanced do you think a nerve ending is
Not advanced enough, that's the point.
Anonymous D replied with this 6 years ago, 49 seconds later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #1,074,841
Dreamworks replied with this 6 years ago, 1 minute later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #1,074,842
Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 6 years ago, 3 minutes later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #1,074,843
@1,074,841 (D)
Yes i suppose there's always some terrible possibility of something bad when pain is involved. We all die in the end though, should our bodies inflict us with ceaseless pain to warn us that we are aging and will die at one point or another?
Yes i suppose there's always some terrible possibility of something bad when pain is involved. We all die in the end though, should our bodies inflict us with ceaseless pain to warn us that we are aging and will die at one point or another?
Anonymous A (OP) double-posted this 6 years ago, 3 minutes later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #1,074,848
@1,074,842 (Dreamworks)
Yeah but when the body fails at this task, what unfortunately works is anger.
Yeah but when the body fails at this task, what unfortunately works is anger.
Anonymous D replied with this 6 years ago, 3 minutes later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #1,074,849
@1,074,843 (A)
Pain helps you to live longer because by alleviating the pain, we can remove the problem which kill us earlier.
Pain helps you to live longer because by alleviating the pain, we can remove the problem which kill us earlier.
Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 6 years ago, 1 minute later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #1,074,850
@previous (D)
Yes i understand that, Christ, I know i know i know! But like I've said, sometimes it's the pain that is the problem. It's called suicide and it's a insidious example.
Yes i understand that, Christ, I know i know i know! But like I've said, sometimes it's the pain that is the problem. It's called suicide and it's a insidious example.
Dreamworks replied with this 6 years ago, 9 minutes later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #1,074,855
@previous (A)
Ok so you are using examples of physical pain even though you really are talking about mental health
Ok so you are using examples of physical pain even though you really are talking about mental health
Dreamworks double-posted this 6 years ago, 27 seconds later, 2 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,074,856
Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 6 years ago, 58 seconds later, 2 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,074,857
@1,074,855 (Dreamworks)
You'd be a fool if you thought physical pain didn't affect mental health. Are you a fool?
You'd be a fool if you thought physical pain didn't affect mental health. Are you a fool?
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Anonymous D replied with this 6 years ago, 3 minutes later, 2 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,074,859
Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 6 years ago, 3 minutes later, 2 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,074,861
@previous (D)
Wrong. There's a lot of pain for the people that have to deal with suicide. How much pain do the people who kill themselves go through? Probably a lot, so that is the point, it's not what causing the pain that is the problem, it's the pain itself. We are all so damn sensitive to pain.
Wrong. There's a lot of pain for the people that have to deal with suicide. How much pain do the people who kill themselves go through? Probably a lot, so that is the point, it's not what causing the pain that is the problem, it's the pain itself. We are all so damn sensitive to pain.
Anonymous B replied with this 6 years ago, 4 minutes later, 2 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,074,863
Anonymous B double-posted this 6 years ago, 1 minute later, 2 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,074,864
http://www.pipsnewryandmourne.org/pages/index.asp?pageID=18
That always makes me feel a little bit better.
That always makes me feel a little bit better.
Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 6 years ago, 9 minutes later, 2 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,074,865
@previous (B)
"Remember that relief is a feeling. And you have to be alive to feel it. You will not feel the relief you so desperately seek, if you are dead"
God damn fucking right. Thanks for that. I'm not suicidal but that's some golden holy words against the demon that is suicide, you gotta look those people in the eye and say in a very heartless way, even though they mean the world to you, that they better fucking not, they might think they have the answer but they are wrong and we gotta tell them that.
"Remember that relief is a feeling. And you have to be alive to feel it. You will not feel the relief you so desperately seek, if you are dead"
God damn fucking right. Thanks for that. I'm not suicidal but that's some golden holy words against the demon that is suicide, you gotta look those people in the eye and say in a very heartless way, even though they mean the world to you, that they better fucking not, they might think they have the answer but they are wrong and we gotta tell them that.
Anonymous D replied with this 6 years ago, 54 seconds later, 2 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,074,866
@1,074,861 (A)
> it's not what causing the pain that is the problem, it's the pain itself
I think it's what is causing the pain that is the problem, the pain is a side-effect.
> it's not what causing the pain that is the problem, it's the pain itself
I think it's what is causing the pain that is the problem, the pain is a side-effect.
Dreamworks replied with this 6 years ago, 3 minutes later, 2 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,074,867
Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 6 years ago, 13 seconds later, 2 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,074,868
@1,074,866 (D)
Yeh but what's causing the pain, is it always treatable or anything you can do something about? I don't think so. I imagine a caveman that unfortunately got some bad injury, he's not going to go to some doctor, there's no doctor to go to. The very same applies to us who are poor or simply too fragile to face the pain to begin with.
Yeh but what's causing the pain, is it always treatable or anything you can do something about? I don't think so. I imagine a caveman that unfortunately got some bad injury, he's not going to go to some doctor, there's no doctor to go to. The very same applies to us who are poor or simply too fragile to face the pain to begin with.
Anonymous A (OP) double-posted this 6 years ago, 53 seconds later, 2 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,074,869
@1,074,867 (Dreamworks)
Um, where you acted as if I was talking about a entirely different thing when I mentioned suicide. Um.
Um, where you acted as if I was talking about a entirely different thing when I mentioned suicide. Um.
Dreamworks replied with this 6 years ago, 26 seconds later, 2 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,074,870
Dreamworks double-posted this 6 years ago, 25 seconds later, 2 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,074,871
Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 6 years ago, 32 seconds later, 2 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,074,872
Anonymous A (OP) double-posted this 6 years ago, 1 minute later, 2 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,074,873
@1,074,871 (Dreamworks)
You don't see how suicide is related to pain even though you see that physical pain is related to mental health? Are you taking a piss?
You don't see how suicide is related to pain even though you see that physical pain is related to mental health? Are you taking a piss?
Dreamworks replied with this 6 years ago, 4 minutes later, 2 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,074,879
@1,074,872 (A)
More effective than no treatment. Also even without medicine pain indicates that you should rest and that further movement/use of the painful part will damage you further.
@previous (A)
You're saying somebody for example broke their leg and it hurts so much they want to kill themselves? That's not a thing
More effective than no treatment. Also even without medicine pain indicates that you should rest and that further movement/use of the painful part will damage you further.
@previous (A)
You're saying somebody for example broke their leg and it hurts so much they want to kill themselves? That's not a thing
Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 6 years ago, 2 minutes later, 2 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,074,882
Anonymous B replied with this 6 years ago, 3 minutes later, 2 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,074,884
What sort of pain are you in OP
Anonymous D replied with this 6 years ago, 7 minutes later, 2 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,074,886
@1,074,868 (A)
> I imagine a caveman that unfortunately got some bad injury, he's not going to go to some doctor, there's no doctor to go to.
Your nerves don't know that
> I imagine a caveman that unfortunately got some bad injury, he's not going to go to some doctor, there's no doctor to go to.
Your nerves don't know that
Dreamworks replied with this 6 years ago, 12 minutes later, 3 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,074,893
@1,074,882 (A)
Lol what? You ask why people can't ignore pain, people tell answer your question and that in fact if you are in a life or death scenario your body will ignore pain and I'm argumentative? You're the one arguing against evolution lol
Lol what? You ask why people can't ignore pain, people tell answer your question and that in fact if you are in a life or death scenario your body will ignore pain and I'm argumentative? You're the one arguing against evolution lol
Dreamworks double-posted this 6 years ago, 17 seconds later, 3 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,074,895
Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 6 years ago, 49 seconds later, 3 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,074,897
@1,074,884 (B)
I really don't know. I've tried to answer you in many different ways but they all feel fake and made up. What i really want is to be surrounded by beauty forever where there's no catch, just pure beauty that i can cherish and think as well as contenplay about forever. The closest i ever got to answering your question is that I'm a so called hysteric, a book about hysterics and their childhood is the closest thing that that resembles me.
@1,074,886 (D)
Yeh, and it's such a bitch. Your nerves are telling you to do something and there's nothing to be done except for maybe, move on with your life, but the nerves don't let you.
I really don't know. I've tried to answer you in many different ways but they all feel fake and made up. What i really want is to be surrounded by beauty forever where there's no catch, just pure beauty that i can cherish and think as well as contenplay about forever. The closest i ever got to answering your question is that I'm a so called hysteric, a book about hysterics and their childhood is the closest thing that that resembles me.
@1,074,886 (D)
Yeh, and it's such a bitch. Your nerves are telling you to do something and there's nothing to be done except for maybe, move on with your life, but the nerves don't let you.
Anonymous A (OP) double-posted this 6 years ago, 1 minute later, 3 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,074,900
Fake anon !ZkUt8arUCU joined in and replied with this 6 years ago, 3 minutes later, 3 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,074,906
Because experiencing pain is for losers tbh.
Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 6 years ago, 1 minute later, 3 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,074,908
Anonymous D replied with this 6 years ago, 9 minutes later, 3 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,074,914
@1,074,897 (A)
> Yeh, and it's such a bitch. Your nerves are telling you to do something and there's nothing to be done except for maybe, move on with your life, but the nerves don't let you.
Your nerves are telling you there is a problem, your brain is telling you to do something.
> Yeh, and it's such a bitch. Your nerves are telling you to do something and there's nothing to be done except for maybe, move on with your life, but the nerves don't let you.
Your nerves are telling you there is a problem, your brain is telling you to do something.