Killer Lettuce? !HonkUK.BIE started this discussion 6 years ago#94,412
I'm not really feeling this one, tbh. But oh well! Who will you vote for, my fellow Brits? Any interesting predictions?
From what I've seen, the polls are indicating a comfortable Tory majority. Labour has apparently closed the gap recently, but I personally don't see them undermining the Tories like last time. Boris is more popular than May and Corbyn doesn't seem as strong this time around. But hey, I'm not following things that closely.
Also, I just saw this funny ad thumbnail on YouTube. Formatting is important.
Killer Lettuce? !HonkUK.BIE (OP) replied with this 6 years ago, 48 minutes later, 12 hours after the original post[^][v]#1,067,868
Honk
Erik !jzYkdX7lIw replied with this 6 years ago, 20 minutes later, 12 hours after the original post[^][v]#1,067,871
@1,067,865 (tteh !MemesToDNA)
As if someone trying to burn the flag and failing would release it. Media has been duped before
tteh !MemesToDNA replied with this 6 years ago, 6 minutes later, 13 hours after the original post[^][v]#1,067,875
@previous (Erik !jzYkdX7lIw) > As if someone trying to burn the flag and failing would release it.
Right — Brexit supporters would never behave so unintelligently, would they?
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Anonymous C replied with this 6 years ago, 4 minutes later, 13 hours after the original post[^][v]#1,067,877
Erik !jzYkdX7lIw replied with this 6 years ago, 23 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^][v]#1,068,033
@previous (tteh !GETFUCKED)
Jeremy would pour a pint, drink half and bring you the rest unless any customers along the way needed a top up. AND... he'll charge London prices in Yorkshire.
Anonymous C replied with this 6 years ago, 26 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^][v]#1,068,039
@1,067,899 (Killer Lettuce? !HonkUK.BIE)
A truly avant garde drunkpost. ?
tteh !GETFUCKED replied with this 6 years ago, 5 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^][v]#1,068,117
@previous (Killer Lettuce? !HonkUK.BIE) > I don't get it.
British citizenship revoked. ?
Guinness has a two-part pour. So, you either stand at the bar for awhile or they'll offer to bring it over for you. The joke is that Boris hurriedly pours a shit pint (no Guinness should have that much head; it should be poured slowly then left to settle and topped up) but Corbyn does it properly and gives you something decent!
tteh !GETFUCKED double-posted this 6 years ago, 2 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^][v]#1,068,118
@1,068,101 (chill dog !!81dzJNNYL)
Nah you're spot on, a trade union is a trade union. The EU isn't one: it was a *trade bloc* but that's not what a trade union is. :D
chill dog !!81dzJNNYL replied with this 6 years ago, 3 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^][v]#1,068,119
Killer Lettuce? !HonkUK.BIE (OP) replied with this 6 years ago, 3 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^][v]#1,068,122
@1,068,117 (tteh !GETFUCKED)
Haha, don't worry, I know they're poured in two parts. Guinness is one of my go-to beers at a bar, actually. I just didn't realise that's what the picture was referencing.
tteh !GETFUCKED replied with this 6 years ago, 11 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^][v]#1,068,125
@previous (Killer Lettuce? !HonkUK.BIE)
Oh I guess it's not obvious actually, looking back at it. I probably would've adjusted Corbyn's quote to make it clearer, but not sure how!
Anonymous C replied with this 6 years ago, 2 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^][v]#1,068,127
Peter double-posted this 6 years ago, 1 day later, 3 days after the original post[^][v]#1,068,567
@1,067,853 (Erik !jzYkdX7lIw)
At least you are honest about your political extremism now
Anonymous M joined in and replied with this 6 years ago, 3 hours later, 3 days after the original post[^][v]#1,068,580
Tories will win.
Killer Lettuce? !HonkUK.BIE (OP) replied with this 6 years ago, 13 hours later, 3 days after the original post[^][v]#1,068,769
My phone reminded me to vote again. I am still creeped out.
Erik !jzYkdX7lIw replied with this 6 years ago, 2 hours later, 4 days after the original post[^][v]#1,068,790
Tories set for a 20+ seat majority.
Killer Lettuce? !HonkUK.BIE (OP) replied with this 6 years ago, 8 hours later, 4 days after the original post[^][v]#1,068,858
Well then, chaps, the day is nearly upon us! As apathetic as I feel, this should still be entertaining, at least.
I'm going Labour, myself. I like the sound of some of Corbyn's policies, namely his taxing the wealthy, the offer of another referendum, and his pro-education stance. However, I'm not that enthusiastic about him as a leader. I do think he has integrity and is genuinely pursuing a vision instead of acting in self-interest, but I don't think he's good enough to win. The Daily Mail et al just has far too much ammo to use against him. Many people are convinced that he's a crazed communist that wants to destroy the UK, so I don't think he'll ever be popular enough to unify the country much less win a vote.
Nonetheless, I can't in good conscience vote for Boris and the Lib Dems can't win where I am, so Labour it is.
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Fake anon !ZkUt8arUCU replied with this 6 years ago, 8 minutes later, 4 days after the original post[^][v]#1,068,862
Question for the libtarded Brits here: if Labore and Lib Dumbs can't win in this political environment, what value do they have? If they both underperform shouldn't Corbyn and Swinson get booted out of leadership and replaced with people who have some charisma and likeability???
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Killer Lettuce? !HonkUK.BIE (OP) replied with this 6 years ago, 13 minutes later, 4 days after the original post[^][v]#1,068,867
@previous (Fake anon !ZkUt8arUCU)
Labour actually did try to boot Corbyn in 2016, but he easily held on and proceeded to do better than expected in the 2017 election. He's okay for now, but I imagine he'd face fresh calls to leave if he outright loses this one. Whether that'll succeed or not, I'm unsure. He has very loyal and dedicated grassroots supporters that rally around him. Think the Bernie Bros, but more effective.
Swinson is a bit different. The modern Lid Dems have always been a "third-man" party, never getting enough votes to govern alone. So just her getting her party more seats would probably be considered a win. I don't know enough about them to predict what'll happen, but I do know that they were always outside contenders anyway.
> can't win in this political environment
Judging by your phrasing, I'm guessing you think that the UK is quite evenly divided on this election and things are very much up-for-grabs. That's not really the case, as the Tories have a comfortable poll lead. There's all kinds of factors around this, but basically I don't think the leaders can be entirely blamed. Boris isn't really charismatic or likeable either. Granted, polls aren't always reliable, but that's still a 10 point lead on the day before.
Fake anon !ZkUt8arUCU replied with this 6 years ago, 11 minutes later, 4 days after the original post[^][v]#1,068,873
@previous (Killer Lettuce? !HonkUK.BIE) > He has very loyal and dedicated grassroots supporters that rally around him. Think the Bernie Bros, but more effective
Yeah that makes sense but when his favorables look like this...idk man. He's surely hurting more than he's helping.
> Judging by your phrasing, I'm guessing you think that the UK is quite evenly divided on this election and things are very much up-for-grabs.
Oh no, I fully expect the Tories to win by a decent margin. I just meant like, the conservatives wanted to hold the Brexit vote under Cameron, lost it, had no contingency plan, fumbled every element of the negotiating along the way, and still have not been able to produce a plan that would achieve their goals THREE YEARS after the vote, despite controlling parliament the entire time. And Labor/Lib Dems can't beat that? They all are terrible at their jobs and should be replaced by new people who might actually be able to do things competently.
I feel similarly about the Dems in america too btw, but at least they managed to win back legislative power in 2018.
Killer Lettuce? !HonkUK.BIE (OP) replied with this 6 years ago, 33 minutes later, 4 days after the original post[^][v]#1,068,892
@previous (Fake anon !ZkUt8arUCU) > Yeah that makes sense but when his favorables look like this...
Very true, and certainly a valid argument for removing him. The thing is, that was the main argument against him in the leadership election, but he still won easily. So I'm sceptical.
A GE defeat could (and hopefully will) change that.
As for your other point, I'm honestly not sure their constant failure and lying matters so much. It feels like a similar deal to Trump. As awful as he is, Boris is tapped into a powerful nationalist/populist wellspring. As long as he keeps up the "elites wants to stop Brexit but I'll do it", he's in a very strong position no matter how rubbish he actually is.
Fake anon !ZkUt8arUCU replied with this 6 years ago, 12 minutes later, 4 days after the original post[^][v]#1,068,898
@previous (Killer Lettuce? !HonkUK.BIE) > A GE defeat could (and hopefully will) change that.
His supporters will just deflect and blame others for his loss, if they're anything like the Bernard Brothers.
Your second point is well taken. It's just frustrating that the mantle of populism has been claimed by snobbish elites who detest ordinary working people and no one else is successful in reclaiming it.
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Anonymous C replied with this 6 years ago, 54 minutes later, 4 days after the original post[^][v]#1,068,907
You can't fire a party leader every time a party doesn't win a GE lol. It's not a presidential election. Also Corbyn is very popular in the Labour party. He has the true Red blood.
Fake anon !ZkUt8arUCU replied with this 6 years ago, 34 minutes later, 4 days after the original post[^][v]#1,068,914
@previous (C)
Well you absolutely can! Whether you should or not is a different question. How many General Elections did Miliband and Brown last? If Corbyn has a worse result than them, why should he stick around?
He's popular within Labor but widely disliked by everyone else. That's good for getting elected leader of Labour and bad for getting elected Prime Minister. That seems like a losing strategy to me.
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Anonymous C replied with this 6 years ago, 48 minutes later, 4 days after the original post[^][v]#1,068,926
Fake anon !ZkUt8arUCU replied with this 6 years ago, 3 minutes later, 4 days after the original post[^][v]#1,068,927
@previous (C)
Sorry for spelling words correctly. I meant LAYBOUGHRE.
tteh !GETFUCKED replied with this 6 years ago, 4 minutes later, 4 days after the original post[^][v]#1,068,928
@1,068,914 (Fake anon !ZkUt8arUCU)
If Labour perform particularly miserably in this election, then yeah I agree that they ought to ditch Corbyn.
They won't, because too many of them are very happy with his returning Labour to its red roots (me included to a degree) but they should seriously consider it depending on the party's performance. Too many voters don't consider Labour a viable alternative with Jeremy at the helm. :(
Anonymous C replied with this 6 years ago, 11 minutes later, 4 days after the original post[^][v]#1,068,931
Anonymous N joined in and replied with this 6 years ago, 41 minutes later, 4 days after the original post[^][v]#1,068,953
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Killer Lettuce? !HonkUK.BIE (OP) replied with this 6 years ago, 6 hours later, 4 days after the original post[^][v]#1,069,070
Wakey wakey, forumites! It's under half an hour until polls open!
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Killer Lettuce? !HonkUK.BIE (OP) double-posted this 6 years ago, 36 minutes later, 4 days after the original post[^][v]#1,069,073
Well, I've voted! ?
Anonymous O joined in and replied with this 6 years ago, 3 minutes later, 4 days after the original post[^][v]#1,069,074
@previous (Killer Lettuce? !HonkUK.BIE)
You are a model for upstanding citizens everywhere.
beckyderp !3NeoVaGFAg replied with this 6 years ago, 35 minutes later, 4 days after the original post[^][v]#1,069,076
I read the topic
tteh !GETFUCKED replied with this 6 years ago, 3 hours later, 5 days after the original post[^][v]#1,069,116
Voted! ????????
Anonymous C replied with this 6 years ago, 1 hour later, 5 days after the original post[^][v]#1,069,122
I voted weeks ago, get fukt skrabs
Killer Lettuce? !HonkUK.BIE (OP) replied with this 6 years ago, 18 minutes later, 5 days after the original post[^][v]#1,069,124
Cool trivia: there is an emoji for voting.
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Peter replied with this 6 years ago, 2 minutes later, 5 days after the original post[^][v]#1,069,126
Green !StaYqkzUPc joined in and replied with this 6 years ago, 4 hours later, 5 days after the original post[^][v]#1,069,194
I have the flu but I went out in the pouring rain to vote for my enemies, the Conservatives. This will probably be the only time I ever vote Tory, but they need (and probably will get because even people who hate them are voting for them) a majority. Let's get Brexit done, arrange a FTA with America (so I can get cheap peanut butter and jerky). I also like Boris, he had charisma, agree with his views on the sugar tax and TV licence. Unfortunately his manifesto was bear bones and nearly turned me off to vote Labour. Corbyn would wreck the economy though and organise a Remain vs Remain Lite referendum (no credible leave option). The results will be interesting unless it's another hung parliament.
Anonymous N replied with this 6 years ago, 19 minutes later, 5 days after the original post[^][v]#1,069,202
You assume jerky is cheap in USAmerica. In terms of snack foods, it is not.
Erik !jzYkdX7lIw replied with this 6 years ago, 1 hour later, 5 days after the original post[^][v]#1,069,234
@1,069,194 (Green !StaYqkzUPc)
Mate, try biltong. Way better then jerky and you can make it yourself.
jodi !ariasXXmaE joined in and replied with this 6 years ago, 30 minutes later, 5 days after the original post[^][v]#1,069,242
@1,069,194 (Green !StaYqkzUPc)
yeah jerky is expensive here too
Fake anon !ZkUt8arUCU replied with this 6 years ago, 1 minute later, 5 days after the original post[^][v]#1,069,243
Jerky isn't even good. Try to disagree with me. You can't.
Green !StaYqkzUPc replied with this 6 years ago, 30 minutes later, 5 days after the original post[^][v]#1,069,252
@1,069,234 (Erik !jzYkdX7lIw)
I love both jerky and biltong!
Green !StaYqkzUPc double-posted this 6 years ago, 53 seconds later, 5 days after the original post[^][v]#1,069,253
My prediction is a 10-15 seat majority for the Tories. TBP may pick up 2-3 seats. Couple of hours until they start the count. We'll get an idea after 2AM.
tteh !MemesToDNA replied with this 6 years ago, 19 minutes later, 5 days after the original post[^][v]#1,069,255
@1,069,194 (Green !StaYqkzUPc)
Even if I were pro-Brexit, I love the NHS too much to vote Tory.
Green !StaYqkzUPc replied with this 6 years ago, 18 minutes later, 5 days after the original post[^][v]#1,069,261
@previous (tteh !MemesToDNA)
They're not going to sell it off. Don't believe the propaganda.
Killer Lettuce? !HonkUK.BIE (OP) replied with this 6 years ago, 3 minutes later, 5 days after the original post[^][v]#1,069,262
@previous (Green !StaYqkzUPc)
Right, Boris and Trump said they wouldn't. And if you can't trust this two to tell the truth, then who can you?
tteh !MemesToDNA replied with this 6 years ago, 4 minutes later, 5 days after the original post[^][v]#1,069,263
@1,069,261 (Green !StaYqkzUPc)
They're not going to sell it wholesale, but they'll privatise parts of it and hand crucial contracts to American companies.
The Tories have done their best to destroy the NHS. They won't stop now.
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Green !StaYqkzUPc replied with this 6 years ago, 18 minutes later, 5 days after the original post[^][v]#1,069,269
@previous (tteh !MemesToDNA)
That's why they're pumping in more money than any other government. Mismanagement is the problem. Prescribing paracetamol for £5 a box when they're 40p in Tesco. @1,069,262 (Killer Lettuce? !HonkUK.BIE)
The document Commie Corbyn got from his Russian comrades only showed drug price negotiations, which has been happening for decades. An FTA may make medication cheaper!
tteh !MemesToDNA replied with this 6 years ago, 12 minutes later, 5 days after the original post[^][v]#1,069,273
@previous (Green !StaYqkzUPc)
They aren't pumping in more money, bud. That's just objectively false. Why do you think doctors and nurses are screaming at Tory MPs for more funding? Do you think you know better than they do?
Go into any hospital and ask for their opinions on the Conservatives.
Fake anon !ZkUt8arUCU replied with this 6 years ago, 11 minutes later, 5 days after the original post[^][v]#1,069,278
@1,069,269 (Green !StaYqkzUPc)
If you think buying American drugs will be cheaper I have absolutely no idea what you are talking about.
Green !StaYqkzUPc replied with this 6 years ago, 11 minutes later, 5 days after the original post[^][v]#1,069,282
15 minutes until LBC election night special. Exit poll results soon.
Green !StaYqkzUPc double-posted this 6 years ago, 21 minutes later, 5 days after the original post[^][v]#1,069,291
Exit polls 368 majority for Tories.
tteh !MemesToDNA replied with this 6 years ago, 35 seconds later, 5 days after the original post[^][v]#1,069,293
Yep, time to ditch Corbyn. Exit poll shows 368 Tories vs. 191 Labour.
Killer Lettuce? !HonkUK.BIE (OP) replied with this 6 years ago, 5 minutes later, 5 days after the original post[^][v]#1,069,297
Fuck! That's a staggering defeat (probably, but exit polls are rarely wrong).
Well, it's been said ITT a few times, but it's seriously time to get rid of Corbyn. This isn't a narrow defeat, this is a significant defeat that's worse for Labour than the last result.
Anyway, I guess Boris and his pals can get to doing some proper damage now. Hurrah!
Fake anon !ZkUt8arUCU replied with this 6 years ago, 2 minutes later, 5 days after the original post[^][v]#1,069,299
Damn, sorry left wing British friends. We'll wait for all the results to come in but it looks like it'll be a rough night.
Green !StaYqkzUPc replied with this 6 years ago, 4 minutes later, 5 days after the original post[^][v]#1,069,301
The only time I vote for the Tories is the time they get a huge majority.
Erik !jzYkdX7lIw joined in and replied with this 6 years ago, 48 seconds later, 5 days after the original post[^][v]#1,069,302
Anonymous M replied with this 6 years ago, 21 minutes later, 5 days after the original post[^][v]#1,069,312
I should have said "by a country mile"... but I was being conservative.
Erik !jzYkdX7lIw replied with this 6 years ago, 15 minutes later, 5 days after the original post[^][v]#1,069,315
LMAO
Fake anon !ZkUt8arUCU replied with this 6 years ago, 8 minutes later, 5 days after the original post[^][v]#1,069,317
Ok I am going to be British for a moment:
Hard lines Labour
Fair do's Tories.
Fake anon !ZkUt8arUCU double-posted this 6 years ago, 33 seconds later, 5 days after the original post[^][v]#1,069,318
@1,069,315 (Erik !jzYkdX7lIw)
Nothing funnier to a nationalist than the thought of his own countryman that disagrees with him politically dying.
Green !StaYqkzUPc replied with this 6 years ago, 1 minute later, 5 days after the original post[^][v]#1,069,319
£ is surging! Because, like I've said before, it wasn't low due to Brexit, but to uncertainty. We now have certainty.
Erik !jzYkdX7lIw replied with this 6 years ago, 19 seconds later, 5 days after the original post[^][v]#1,069,320
@1,069,318 (Fake anon !ZkUt8arUCU)
I gave him reddit gold LMAO
Fake anon !ZkUt8arUCU replied with this 6 years ago, 1 minute later, 5 days after the original post[^][v]#1,069,321
@1,069,319 (Green !StaYqkzUPc)
What is the certainty?
Fake anon !ZkUt8arUCU double-posted this 6 years ago, 1 minute later, 5 days after the original post[^][v]#1,069,323
@1,069,320 (Erik !jzYkdX7lIw)
Example 5828483 of why nationalism is about hating foreigners and not loving your country.
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Anonymous M replied with this 6 years ago, 2 minutes later, 5 days after the original post[^][v]#1,069,325
@1,069,321 (Fake anon !ZkUt8arUCU) > What is the certainty?
That the UK will now actually, once and for all, leave the EU... as long as Boris keeps his word I guess...
Green !StaYqkzUPc replied with this 6 years ago, 24 seconds later, 5 days after the original post[^][v]#1,069,327
Fake anon !ZkUt8arUCU replied with this 6 years ago, 7 seconds later, 5 days after the original post[^][v]#1,069,328
100 get
Erik !jzYkdX7lIw replied with this 6 years ago, 52 seconds later, 5 days after the original post[^][v]#1,069,329
@1,069,321 (Fake anon !ZkUt8arUCU)
That the ruling party can do what it needs to do without interruption from the opposition
Anonymous S joined in and replied with this 6 years ago, 33 seconds later, 5 days after the original post[^][v]#1,069,330
@1,069,327 (Green !StaYqkzUPc)
Imagine applauding the destruction of the social system that basically sustained you for half your life. Faggot.
Erik !jzYkdX7lIw replied with this 6 years ago, 1 minute later, 5 days after the original post[^][v]#1,069,331
@1,069,323 (Fake anon !ZkUt8arUCU)
Funny how you only complain about British and American nationalism and not Israeli nationalism!
tteh !MemesToDNA replied with this 6 years ago, 35 seconds later, 5 days after the original post[^][v]#1,069,332
@1,069,330 (S)
Tory voters? Voting against their self interests? Say it ain't so!
Fake anon !ZkUt8arUCU replied with this 6 years ago, 40 seconds later, 5 days after the original post[^][v]#1,069,333
@1,069,325 (M)
Oh I thought that was basically guaranteed when the vote happened in 2016. Of Cons, Lib Dems and Labour, only Lib Dems were unified and vocally against brexit and they're the most irrelevant of the three.
I just don't know what the terms of the deal will be. Probably worse for the UK than just remaining in the EU with the added bonus of having to beg the US for some kind of trade deal negotiated by a manchild your PM was caught on camera laughing at a week ago. Best of luck!
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tteh !MemesToDNA replied with this 6 years ago, 23 seconds later, 5 days after the original post[^][v]#1,069,334
@1,069,331 (Erik !jzYkdX7lIw)
Why would he bring up Israel in a thread about the UK's general election? If you mean elsewhere, you haven't been paying attention. He's hardly pro-Israel.
Anonymous M replied with this 6 years ago, 45 seconds later, 5 days after the original post[^][v]#1,069,335
@1,069,330 (S) > the destruction of the social system that basically sustained you for half your life
Imagine being so simple-minded that you believe this.
Fake anon !ZkUt8arUCU replied with this 6 years ago, 46 seconds later, 5 days after the original post[^][v]#1,069,337
@1,069,331 (Erik !jzYkdX7lIw)
Funny how I'm an American who has a minor interest in UK politics because of common history and fora friends, but I don't particularly care about a country I'm not a citizen of.
tteh !MemesToDNA replied with this 6 years ago, 1 minute later, 5 days after the original post[^][v]#1,069,338
@1,069,335 (M)
I assumed by "social system" they meant welfare/benefits? Maybe I misunderstood what they meant.
tteh !MemesToDNA double-posted this 6 years ago, 49 seconds later, 5 days after the original post[^][v]#1,069,339
@1,069,337 (Fake anon !ZkUt8arUCU)
Right, but you have Jewish lineage, and, like, Israel's got a buncha Jews in it, so, y'know...
Anonymous M replied with this 6 years ago, 17 seconds later, 5 days after the original post[^][v]#1,069,340
@1,069,333 (Fake anon !ZkUt8arUCU) > Oh I thought that was basically guaranteed when the vote happened in 2016. Of Cons, Lib Dems and Labour, only Lib Dems were unified and vocally against brexit and they're the most irrelevant of the three.
It was, until Theresa May went and lost the majority in parliament. What a useless P.M. she was... almost worse than Jo Swinson would have been, speaking of the Lib Dems (and it's looking quite likely she'll lose her seat - hilarious).
Anonymous M double-posted this 6 years ago, 2 minutes later, 5 days after the original post[^][v]#1,069,344
@1,069,338 (tteh !MemesToDNA) > I assumed by "social system" they meant welfare/benefits? Maybe I misunderstood what they meant.
Yes, but the value of the currency supporting the social system has everything to do with its success or failure, wouldn't you agree?
Erik !jzYkdX7lIw replied with this 6 years ago, 1 minute later, 5 days after the original post[^][v]#1,069,346
Fake anon !ZkUt8arUCU replied with this 6 years ago, 5 minutes later, 5 days after the original post[^][v]#1,069,349
@1,069,344 (M)
It's related but you can have a strong currency and a shoddy safety net or a weak currency and a strong safety net. There's no necessary relationship between the two things.
Killer Lettuce? !HonkUK.BIE (OP) replied with this 6 years ago, 3 minutes later, 5 days after the original post[^][v]#1,069,350
@1,069,318 (Fake anon !ZkUt8arUCU)
Well, you know Svet. He's thrilled about "undesirables" dying.
Anonymous M replied with this 6 years ago, 2 minutes later, 5 days after the original post[^][v]#1,069,351
@1,069,349 (Fake anon !ZkUt8arUCU) > There's no necessary relationship between the two things.
Of course there is. Take the NHS for example, the biggest and most important benefit system. Stronger buying power of the pound means a massive reduction in cost when importing medicine and equipment.
Erik !jzYkdX7lIw replied with this 6 years ago, 3 minutes later, 5 days after the original post[^][v]#1,069,352
Conservatives just took Blyth Valley, a labour stronghold and old mining town. Wow
Killer Lettuce? !HonkUK.BIE (OP) replied with this 6 years ago, 2 minutes later, 5 days after the original post[^][v]#1,069,353
Oh, the SNP are also projected to get massive gains. It's an iffy thing because there's lots of marginals up there, but still.
Anyway, now the SNP has started saying they'll push for another independence referendum. That would be fantastic, wouldn't it? Brexit and the union breaking up.
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Fake anon !ZkUt8arUCU replied with this 6 years ago, 5 minutes later, 5 days after the original post[^][v]#1,069,356
@1,069,351 (M)
Massive is a strange choice of words. If the pound is up .04 relative to the USD but Tories slash NHS funding 15%, it's hardly the case that the NHS is better off because the pound is slightly stronger. Not that either thing will happen necessarily, just that funding and policy choices matter a great deal and currency strength is something on the margins.
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tteh !MemesToDNA replied with this 6 years ago, 1 minute later, 5 days after the original post[^][v]#1,069,358
@1,069,344 (M)
Not necessarily, no. If you cut funding, as the Tories have done, a stronger pound is meaningless.
Anonymous M replied with this 6 years ago, 10 minutes later, 5 days after the original post[^][v]#1,069,362
@1,069,356 (Fake anon !ZkUt8arUCU) @previous (tteh !MemesToDNA)
When you are talking about billions of pounds, an increase of 0.04 in value is massive and does make a big difference. It hasn't been this good against the dollar since around May 2018, and against the EUR, since the 2016 Brexit vote happened.
> Tories slash NHS funding 15%
Where did you get that figure?
Killer Lettuce? !HonkUK.BIE (OP) replied with this 6 years ago, 3 minutes later, 5 days after the original post[^][v]#1,069,363
A fair point being raised, I think, is that the Tories getting such a large majority might mean that they become more moderate since groups like the DUP AND ERG will no longer be deciders on policy.
Not much of a consolation for me, frankly, but I suppose it would be something.
Erik !jzYkdX7lIw replied with this 6 years ago, 1 minute later, 5 days after the original post[^][v]#1,069,364
@previous (Killer Lettuce? !HonkUK.BIE)
You did vote for them once
Fake anon !ZkUt8arUCU replied with this 6 years ago, 12 minutes later, 5 days after the original post[^][v]#1,069,369
@1,069,362 (M)
Again, that depends on what you mean by "massive". A 3% increase in spending power that only matters for the subset of NHS funds that go towards importing goods is nice but not "massive". For example, now that you're brexiting for real this time (maybe?), it depends on whether the trade deals you're able to negotiate are similar in nature to the ones you're using now, or if you'll have to end up paying more to import the same things, cancelling out the beneficial effects of a stronger currency.
> Where did you get that figure?
I just made it up because we're talking conceptually. If they increased the NHS budget 15%, that would also be more significant than the pound rising 3%. So would the new trade deals, the relative strength of the currencies of the countries you are importing from, etc. A lot of things go into whether a social safety net is effective or not. A sometimes applicable 3% boost in spending power that is not permanent is not massive.
Anonymous M replied with this 6 years ago, 20 minutes later, 5 days after the original post[^][v]#1,069,374
@previous (Fake anon !ZkUt8arUCU) > Again, that depends on what you mean by "massive".
I mean it in the comparative, non-hyperbolic sense. In comparison to the small incremental changes of the last 3 or so years since the pound fell off a cliff, the leap in value is... well... massive.
> I just made it up
What fun! True lib dem supporter(?)
> because we're talking conceptually
Hmm. I'm talking realistically. The pound really did just leap in value, and the Tories really are winning by a significant margin. I'm not making it up, I promise.
beckyderp !3NeoVaGFAg replied with this 6 years ago, 15 minutes later, 5 days after the original post[^][v]#1,069,389
can someone provide the tl;dr of the elections
Fake anon !ZkUt8arUCU replied with this 6 years ago, 1 minute later, 5 days after the original post[^][v]#1,069,390
@1,069,374 (M) > I mean it in the comparative, non-hyperbolic sense. In comparison to the small incremental changes of the last 3 or so years since the pound fell off a cliff, the leap in value is... well... massive.
Are you being totally serious or just having a giggle? I don't know how you can look at GBP strength over the last 3 years and find zero changes of this magnitude post-Brexit. Excluding Brexit of course, because Brexit has utterly fucked the pound's value and any "gains" in value that happen now are just recouping some of the value that was lost by the dumb decision in the first place.
> What fun! True lib dem supporter(?)
No, I find all UK political parties boring. I guess ideologically I would fit into them but Jo Swinson has (had, RIP) the charisma of a wooden block and I don't know any other members. Not that that's relevant, of course.
> Hmm. I'm talking realistically. The pound really did just leap in value, and the Tories really are winning by a significant margin. I'm not making it up, I promise.
Yes, and the Tories really are going to have to pass a budget, and that budget really will have to assign an amount of funding to the NHS, and if that number really is more than a 5% cut relative to the baseline, that will be more significant than a 3% increase in the GBP (which is already fading), I promise. :)
beckyderp !3NeoVaGFAg replied with this 6 years ago, 5 minutes later, 5 days after the original post[^][v]#1,069,392
Killer Lettuce? !HonkUK.BIE (OP) replied with this 6 years ago, 1 minute later, 5 days after the original post[^][v]#1,069,393
@1,069,390 (Fake anon !ZkUt8arUCU) > > What fun! True lib dem supporter(?) > No, I find all UK political parties boring. I guess ideologically I would fit into them but Jo Swinson has (had, RIP) the charisma of a wooden block and I don't know any other members. Not that that's relevant, of course.
I think Anon M is making a joke about how the Lib Dems are known for fiddling their election graphs to try to look better.
Fake anon !ZkUt8arUCU replied with this 6 years ago, 22 seconds later, 5 days after the original post[^][v]#1,069,394
@1,069,392 (beckyderp !3NeoVaGFAg)
Basically, British people are fucked but it doesn't matter to me personally so yolo.
Fake anon !ZkUt8arUCU double-posted this 6 years ago, 59 seconds later, 5 days after the original post[^][v]#1,069,395
@1,069,393 (Killer Lettuce? !HonkUK.BIE)
Oh, a cultural reference that was lost on me! They're gonna need to do a LOT of fiddling tonight. Personally if I were them, I'd try winning elections instead but everyone has their own strategies.
Killer Lettuce? !HonkUK.BIE (OP) replied with this 6 years ago, 19 seconds later, 5 days after the original post[^][v]#1,069,396
@1,069,394 (Fake anon !ZkUt8arUCU)
Well then, don't look here for sympathy if Trump wins 2020. ?
Fake anon !ZkUt8arUCU replied with this 6 years ago, 1 minute later, 5 days after the original post[^][v]#1,069,397
@previous (Killer Lettuce? !HonkUK.BIE)
I will not. I am already sure he will win, that way I can be pleasantly surprised when he doesn't!
Peter replied with this 6 years ago, 8 hours later, 5 days after the original post[^][v]#1,069,503
Brexit
tteh !MemesToDNA replied with this 6 years ago, 8 minutes later, 5 days after the original post[^][v]#1,069,506
Killer Lettuce? !HonkUK.BIE (OP) replied with this 6 years ago, 10 minutes later, 6 days after the original post[^][v]#1,069,533
Some fun news from my neck of the woods, St. Ives is extremely late with its results and the last to declare... Because some of its votes are stranded on the Isles of Scilly.