!Mex505FZAw started this discussion 15 years ago#9,419
PREFACE
Most of this chat is tl;dr, but I got consent from CB to post this log so long as I edited out her personal information, which I did to the best of my knowledge. It sheds a lot of light on to4str, so I hope you enjoy it :D==
THE CHAT
[2:55:14 AM] wilsondukeoflizards: hai :3
[2:55:59 AM] Carebear ◕‿‿◕: HOLY SHIT
[2:56:04 AM] Carebear ◕‿‿◕: MEXXX
[2:56:09 AM] Carebear ◕‿‿◕: MEXXXXXXX
[2:56:09 AM] wilsondukeoflizards: sup!
[2:56:11 AM] Carebear ◕‿‿◕: <333
[2:56:34 AM] * Missed call from Carebear ◕‿‿◕. *
[2:56:49 AM] wilsondukeoflizards: I'm on my desktop with no voice or video capabilities
[2:57:26 AM] wilsondukeoflizards: I could get my laptop, but I need to install skype and webcam driver on it
[2:57:45 AM] wilsondukeoflizards: sry ._.
[2:58:03 AM] wilsondukeoflizards: would take me like 10 minutes
[2:58:15 AM | Edited 2:58:19 AM] Carebear ◕‿‿◕: yaaaaaaay
[2:58:20 AM] Carebear ◕‿‿◕: its fine
[2:58:28 AM] Carebear ◕‿‿◕: are you intoxicated?
[2:58:35 AM] wilsondukeoflizards: only slightly
[2:58:50 AM] Carebear ◕‿‿◕: HOW IS THE LIFE man
[2:58:58 AM] wilsondukeoflizards: never been better :D
[2:59:06 AM] wilsondukeoflizards: Got a kick ass new job
[2:59:12 AM] Carebear ◕‿‿◕: doing what?
[2:59:24 AM] wilsondukeoflizards: property management
[2:59:43 AM] wilsondukeoflizards: I drive all over the state and take pictures of houses :)
[2:59:49 AM] Carebear ◕‿‿◕: noice noice.
[2:59:58 AM] Carebear ◕‿‿◕: sounds like a breeze
[3:00:07 AM] wilsondukeoflizards: Got some nice cash jobs on the side too
[3:00:15 AM] Carebear ◕‿‿◕: 8-)
[3:00:18 AM] Carebear ◕‿‿◕: sounds good
[3:00:23 AM] wilsondukeoflizards: got 200 bucks cash today for some easy shit
[3:00:36 AM] wilsondukeoflizards: and a new band in the works XD
[3:00:51 AM] wilsondukeoflizards: like I said, never been better
[3:00:53 AM] Carebear ◕‿‿◕: aw everything sounds wonderful.
[3:00:57 AM] Carebear ◕‿‿◕: got a girrrrrrrl?
[3:01:10 AM] wilsondukeoflizards: a few to choose from :3
[3:01:27 AM] Carebear ◕‿‿◕: noiiiiice ;)
[3:01:58 AM] wilsondukeoflizards: Like this girl. She's a nice Irish chick, and a badass lighting tech :3
[3:02:28 AM] Carebear ◕‿‿◕: make sure shes not a PSYCHO BITCH lol
[3:02:42 AM] wilsondukeoflizards: I've got good psycho bitch radar
[3:02:54 AM] wilsondukeoflizards: having dated more of those than any man deserves
[3:03:05 AM] Carebear ◕‿‿◕: hahahaha
[3:03:09 AM] Carebear ◕‿‿◕: thats good.
[3:03:26 AM] wilsondukeoflizards: good in the sense of learning from mistakes XD
[3:03:41 AM] Carebear ◕‿‿◕: well at least you get SOMETHING out of it
[3:03:41 AM] Carebear ◕‿‿◕: :P
[3:04:08 AM] wilsondukeoflizards: but that SOMETHING isn't always worth it -- keep that in mind
[3:05:07 AM] wilsondukeoflizards: but yeah, I promised Sim that I'd drop by every once in a while, and tonight is that once in a while :)
[3:05:21 AM] Carebear ◕‿‿◕: aww why once in a while .-.
[3:05:36 AM] wilsondukeoflizards: Because I'm so fucking busy!
[3:06:04 AM] wilsondukeoflizards: 2 part time jobs plus 3 dogs and finally getting somewhere with the music
[3:06:30 AM] wilsondukeoflizards: Most of the time I spend at the computer these days is promoting shit on facebook
[3:06:50 AM] wilsondukeoflizards: or processing my job related pics
[3:06:59 AM] Carebear ◕‿‿◕: oh that's good ^.^
[3:07:02 AM] wilsondukeoflizards: not much time for the chans
[3:07:15 AM] Carebear ◕‿‿◕: going to new york soon o_o ~
sensitive info redacted
[3:10:53 AM] Carebear ◕‿‿◕: dayum
[3:11:00 AM] Carebear ◕‿‿◕: what about toaster?
[3:11:01 AM] Carebear ◕‿‿◕: lol
[3:11:35 AM] wilsondukeoflizards: Dude is a sociopath and he gets off on causing mayhem. please please please PLEASE don't tell him a goddamn thing that counld incriminate you
[3:11:52 AM] wilsondukeoflizards: and for that matter, tell me no more
[3:12:02 AM] Carebear ◕‿‿◕: (bow)
[3:12:04 AM] Carebear ◕‿‿◕: lol
[3:12:16 AM] Carebear ◕‿‿◕: wtf? :P toaster doesnt mess with you if you dont mess with him
[3:12:17 AM] wilsondukeoflizards: I wish you the best, but I really don't want you to get in trouble ._.
[3:12:48 AM] Carebear ◕‿‿◕: lol thanks
[3:12:52 AM] Carebear ◕‿‿◕: its no biggie man
[3:13:14 AM] Carebear ◕‿‿◕: im close to toaster he tells me everything he does to MC and TC lol
[3:13:33 AM] wilsondukeoflizards: I don't know him too well, but I know him enough NOT to trust him. In that vein, you shouldn't trust me, or anyone for that matter
[3:13:57 AM] wilsondukeoflizards: Keep that shit IRL for fucks sake
[3:14:17 AM] Carebear ◕‿‿◕: lol u so drunk :3
[3:14:24 AM] wilsondukeoflizards: Nah :)
[3:14:30 AM] Carebear ◕‿‿◕: o
[3:14:38 AM] wilsondukeoflizards: Been smoking some wicked vanilla haze
[3:14:43 AM] Carebear ◕‿‿◕: OH
[3:14:46 AM] Carebear ◕‿‿◕: durrrrrrrr :P
[3:15:18 AM] Carebear ◕‿‿◕: toaster doesnt attack people that dont attack him -.-
[3:15:45 AM] wilsondukeoflizards: (redacted)
[3:15:54 AM] Carebear ◕‿‿◕: : 333
[3:16:18 AM] wilsondukeoflizards: Keep it to yourself, and rely on people you know IRL for advice.
[3:16:33 AM] Carebear ◕‿‿◕: irl people can fuck you ever even more ;)
[3:16:39 AM] wilsondukeoflizards: And I can't stress it enough, DO NOT trust to4str
[3:17:09 AM] wilsondukeoflizards: All I ask of you is to be wary
[3:17:44 AM] Carebear ◕‿‿◕: lolokay :3
[3:17:49 AM] wilsondukeoflizards: and remember I'm a good deal older and more experienced than both y'all
[3:17:53 AM | Edited 3:18:03 AM] Carebear ◕‿‿◕: did toaster ever fuck you over?
[3:18:16 AM] wilsondukeoflizards: no
HERE IS WHERE IT GETS GOOD
[3:18:45 AM] wilsondukeoflizards: but he has admitted directly to me that he has flooded TC with CP
[3:19:09 AM] wilsondukeoflizards: Even if he was full of shit
[3:19:20 AM] wilsondukeoflizards: that's a very bad attitude
[3:19:43 AM] wilsondukeoflizards: and I would never trust anyone that would even joke about that kind of shit
[3:19:50 AM] Carebear ◕‿‿◕: yeah LOL
[3:20:15 AM | Removed 3:28:59 AM] Carebear ◕‿‿◕: This message has been removed.
[3:20:27 AM] wilsondukeoflizards: nah
[3:20:31 AM] Carebear ◕‿‿◕: oh
[3:20:36 AM] Carebear ◕‿‿◕: shits funny yo.
[3:20:52 AM] wilsondukeoflizards: but that was an indirect aedmission of the CP flooding, amirite?
[3:21:01 AM] Carebear ◕‿‿◕: uh yeah hes done it before :P
[3:21:17 AM] Carebear ◕‿‿◕: because itamake is a bitch to him
[3:21:38 AM] wilsondukeoflizards: why would you support somoene who takes such underhanded measures to get his way?
[3:21:54 AM] Carebear ◕‿‿◕: because itamake is a bitch to him
dreamworks !AUIkTW/L46 joined in and replied with this 15 years ago, 5 minutes later[^][v]#167,301
inb4 drama and t04str
!ocurburUbk joined in and replied with this 15 years ago, 18 seconds later, 5 minutes after the original post[^][v]#167,302
HERE'S ME WINNING
[3:34:50 AM | Edited 3:37:29 AM] Carebear ◕‿‿◕: oh
[3:35:10 AM] Carebear ◕‿‿◕: i think you think too much of him.
[3:35:17 AM] Carebear ◕‿‿◕: he gets abused a lot on MC and TC
[3:35:49 AM | Edited 3:36:01 AM] Carebear ◕‿‿◕: he posts the CP to be able to report the site and shut it down.
[3:36:11 AM] wilsondukeoflizards: I think that for 3 years, he has gone to great lengths to fuck with us, because he is a vile little griefing piece of shit
[3:36:33 AM] Carebear ◕‿‿◕: of course im not into CP or anything nor do i support CP in any way. i too find it revoltingly disgusting and inhumane.
[3:36:55 AM] wilsondukeoflizards: I think that if he wants to put this conflict to rest, he's going about is ass-backwards
[3:37:00 AM] Carebear ◕‿‿◕: but once you know intentions behind peoples doing, it makes it easier to somewhat understand.
[3:37:36 AM] wilsondukeoflizards: still, he's always refused to settle it in a mature fashion
[3:37:50 AM] Carebear ◕‿‿◕: he's tried. im sure he has.
[3:38:00 AM] wilsondukeoflizards: he has never
[3:38:06 AM] Carebear ◕‿‿◕: but even then, what's the fun in that?
[3:38:13 AM] wilsondukeoflizards: because he can't keep his cool long enough
[3:38:26 AM] Carebear ◕‿‿◕: why does itamake always pry and aim to ruin toasters internet life?
[3:38:51 AM] wilsondukeoflizards: because of the countles times to4str has flooded TC wioth CP
[3:39:06 AM] Carebear ◕‿‿◕: countless? he hasnt done it in months
[3:39:29 AM] wilsondukeoflizards: I don't think so, sis
[3:39:33 AM] Carebear ◕‿‿◕: and i've been around for the drama.
[3:39:40 AM] Carebear ◕‿‿◕: im sure the word would spread around if he did.
[3:40:11 AM] wilsondukeoflizards: The last time he shut down TC was like 2 weeks ago
[3:40:41 AM] Carebear ◕‿‿◕: yeah but people dont aim to destroy unless provoked...
[3:40:41 AM] wilsondukeoflizards: but then TGcomix and Matt Miller have stepped it up a bit
[3:40:59 AM] wilsondukeoflizards: You don't know to4str
[3:41:26 AM] Carebear ◕‿‿◕: you make him seem like a monster.
[3:41:27 AM] wilsondukeoflizards: back in the day he sided with Paul Fetch so he could take down anon
[3:41:48 AM] wilsondukeoflizards: Then he sided with Kimmo to try to take down 4chan
[3:41:53 AM] Carebear ◕‿‿◕: lol
[3:41:56 AM] Carebear ◕‿‿◕: why not?
[3:42:20 AM] wilsondukeoflizards: I can't say I take issaue with his cause
[3:42:32 AM] Carebear ◕‿‿◕: sigh we both obviously dont know him well enough to judge.
[3:42:34 AM] wilsondukeoflizards: I take issue with his methods is all
!ocurburUbk double-posted this 15 years ago, 45 seconds later, 6 minutes after the original post[^][v]#167,303
I salute anyone that will actually read this.
!Mex505FZAw (OP) replied with this 15 years ago, 31 seconds later, 7 minutes after the original post[^][v]#167,304
!ocurburUbk replied with this 15 years ago, 6 minutes later, 46 minutes after the original post[^][v]#167,340
[4:43:25 AM] wilsondukeoflizards: So defending him is some classisic devil's advocate trolling
[4:43:37 AM] Carebear ◕‿‿◕: ;)
jump joined in and replied with this 15 years ago, 27 minutes later, 1 hour after the original post[^][v]#167,351
More mexxx. Also, is this worth reading?
Anonymous G joined in and replied with this 15 years ago, 11 minutes later, 1 hour after the original post[^][v]#167,354
You're just perpetuating the cycle by talking and making threads about him.
Anonymous E replied with this 15 years ago, 23 minutes later, 1 hour after the original post[^][v]#167,357
usi everywhere
Anonymous H joined in and replied with this 15 years ago, 36 minutes later, 2 hours after the original post[^][v]#167,366
His usual trolling is okay, even somewhere amusing, but it's when he posts CP that he goes too far. TC was actually taken down because of it. What if he did that here?
Nega !34Kas0OdzM joined in and replied with this 15 years ago, 20 minutes later, 2 hours after the original post[^][v]#167,371
@previous (H) > what if he did that here?
A third of MC would be saving at the speed of light.
r04r joined in and replied with this 15 years ago, 47 minutes later, 3 hours after the original post[^][v]#167,381
Read it.
Carebear, you're retarded and way too trusting.
Anonymous E replied with this 15 years ago, 41 minutes later, 4 hours after the original post[^][v]#167,385
@previous (r04r)
i think (hope) they were both trolling in that chat and it isn't all serious... to4str is an actor
r04r replied with this 15 years ago, 52 seconds later, 4 hours after the original post[^][v]#167,386
A little of both. Me and CB can playfully troll eachother and have a worthwhile convo in the process. It was like 70% trolling and 30% srsbzns IMO.
But, as any of you that have talked to me for a length of time know, I find to4str fascinating, because I can't decide if he's an actor or a deeply disturbed young man with a penchant for little boys and wreaking havoc on the internet :p
Damn... back on MC after being gone for 2 months. It's my day off and I was going to go out to the desert to smoke pot and shoot my new 9mm, but whatevs.
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Anonymous L joined in and replied with this 15 years ago, 6 minutes later, 8 hours after the original post[^][v]#167,437
Meh, I'm a bit rusty but I guess you're right. Give me a better word and I'll edit it in.
Anonymous L replied with this 15 years ago, 5 minutes later, 9 hours after the original post[^][v]#167,440
@previous (A)
It doesn't matter, but back to the subject at hand...
to4str's motives are immaterial. If he wants to try to justify his actions through a victim complex or that he has to retaliate whenever he doesn't get his way, fine. It doesn't change the fact that he possesses child pornography, has flooded it on several websites, and also streamed it through tinychat are fact. It's illegal to have. Whiteknighting his 'cause' or saying he's just putting on an act to troll is tertiary to his illegal behaviour. I don't care if he wants attention, negative or not, he's a sick fuck and he's committing a CRIME.
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Anonymous M joined in and replied with this 15 years ago, 1 minute later, 9 hours after the original post[^][v]#167,445
@167,436 (A)
to4str reminds me of that kid in grade school who would go around and break other kid's things and then whine to the teacher about how hurt he got doing it and how none of the other kids like him. The bizarre lengths he seems to go to for attention is truly fascinating.
Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 15 years ago, 16 seconds later, 9 hours after the original post[^][v]#167,447
> It doesn't matter, but back to the subject at hand... > > to4str's motives are immaterial. If he wants to try to justify his actions through a victim complex or that he has to retaliate whenever he doesn't get his way, fine. It doesn't change the fact that he possesses child pornography, has flooded it on several websites, and also streamed it through tinychat are fact. It's illegal to have. Whiteknighting his 'cause' or saying he's just putting on an act to troll is tertiary to his illegal behaviour. I don't care if he wants attention, negative or not, he's a sick fuck and he's committing a CRIME.
qouted for motherfucking truth!
Anonymous A (OP) double-posted this 15 years ago, 1 minute later, 9 hours after the original post[^][v]#167,449
Yeah, I read the whole chatlog AC has on his site, and it was just so confusing. I concluded that he really just wants to cause as much trouble as possible.
Anonymous A (OP) triple-posted this 15 years ago, 5 minutes later, 9 hours after the original post[^][v]#167,452
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Sup, to4str!
Knew you'd find this eventually, just didn't think I'd have to wait so long :D
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Anonymous O joined in and replied with this 15 years ago, 21 minutes later, 9 hours after the original post[^][v]#167,460
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sup to4str
So, in Skype chats, to4str used to deny he CP flooded. He stopped the denial, recently, and now just bawwwwws that he's so picked on and TC deserves to be shut down (but he never has a valid reason why).
Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 15 years ago, 3 minutes later, 9 hours after the original post[^][v]#167,463
sim !!VASLIRK6A replied with this 15 years ago, 3 minutes later, 9 hours after the original post[^][v]#167,475
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sup to4str?
Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 15 years ago, 1 minute later, 9 hours after the original post[^][v]#167,478
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Yeah, and he's nude. It is an inappropriate picture to show people against their will.
Anonymous A (OP) double-posted this 15 years ago, 37 seconds later, 9 hours after the original post[^][v]#167,480
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> You're like Pinocchio with a receding hairline. Every time you lie a hair follicle dies.
I must admit I lol'd
Anonymous O replied with this 15 years ago, 8 minutes later, 9 hours after the original post[^][v]#167,487
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I lol'd, too, but it's clear that your discomfort with my hairline is your inner rage about men aging.
Was it your father who sexually assaulted you? It was clearly some male authority figure. Was he bald?
This is a safe space, bud. Let out your deep pains.
Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 15 years ago, 3 minutes later, 9 hours after the original post[^][v]#167,490
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The artistic merit of the photo is debatable. The fact that it's a picture of a naked boy is not. It's not something you should show to just anyone.
Ks !KansasxqvM joined in and replied with this 15 years ago, 3 minutes later, 9 hours after the original post[^][v]#167,492
It would be nice to just have Mexxx around more often... fuck t04str drama.
Ks !KansasxqvM double-posted this 15 years ago, 2 minutes later, 10 hours after the original post[^][v]#167,494
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I don't get you guys man. Doesn't the internet drama-shit ever get boring?
protip !!pMmAiEwOm joined in and replied with this 15 years ago, 31 seconds later, 10 hours after the original post[^][v]#167,495
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Because errybody knows you collect shota pics for fapping. It’s that sexual intent that makes the collection illegal, bud ;-)
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So, you consented to your father’s love, then? At what age were you too old for his taste? Did that rejection crush your spirits? Do you protect your little brother from your dad?
protip !!pMmAiEwOm double-posted this 15 years ago, 17 minutes later, 10 hours after the original post[^][v]#167,507
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Sure, they’re wild stabs in the dark. Which parts are true, though?
Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 15 years ago, 1 hour later, 11 hours after the original post[^][v]#167,613
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You have no right to make assumptions about my motives for starting this thread, when you are so dodgy about explaining yourself. My motives are simple -- I don't give a fuck about drama, but I find your personality and actions fascinating. I also take extreme issue with what you do, and believe that once your facade is destroyed, you'll cut your shit out. You should notice that I've taken great pains to not make any unfounded accusations against you, and that I have no desire to be your enemy. My interest in, and my interaction with, you is entirely scientific.
Don't you dare tell me not to patronize you, because I am not :)
Anonymous K replied with this 15 years ago, 5 minutes later, 11 hours after the original post[^][v]#167,616
Maybe you're not patronizing him, but I am.
Hey to4str? Can I ask you a question? When eating my own cum is it appropriate to swallow it all, or does etiquette dictate that I burp half of it into my partners mouth?
Just thought I'd ask an expert.
protip !!pMmAiEwOm replied with this 15 years ago, 1 minute later, 11 hours after the original post[^][v]#167,617
Anonymous K replied with this 15 years ago, 2 minutes later, 11 hours after the original post[^][v]#167,618
@previous (protip !!pMmAiEwOm)
Thanks for the advise, but i'm going to wait to hear from to4str. Eating cum is his baliwick, you're more like a programmer.
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Anonymous L replied with this 15 years ago, 27 seconds later, 11 hours after the original post[^][v]#167,619
For the reccord, most of this information revealed in the OP was pretty common knowledge anyway. I doubt much was learned from this log; you'd have to be pretty clueless to not notice how to4str acts and what he does. That or just really bad at reading people because it's painfully obvious.
protip !!pMmAiEwOm replied with this 15 years ago, 2 minutes later, 11 hours after the original post[^][v]#167,622
@167,618 (K)
This is true, good sir. I have never constructed a glory hole, let alone out of cardboard. I should stick to my expertise.
Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 15 years ago, 8 seconds later, 11 hours after the original post[^][v]#167,623
> For the reccord, most of this information revealed in the OP was pretty common knowledge anyway. I doubt much was learned from this log; you'd have to be pretty clueless to not notice how to4str acts and what he does. That or just really bad at reading people because it's painfully obvious.
Why he does it isn't quite so apparent, though. All this log has shown me that I didn't already know is that he manipulates naive girls over the internet into siding with him as well as everything else that we already knew. I'd like to know what he gets out of it, because he takes it way too seriously to just be doing it for the lulz. Once again, I bear no ill will towards to4str, this is all just to satisfy my curiosity.
Furthermore, I only made this thread with the intention of baiting him into the discussion. That indeed worked, but all he's been doing ITT is deflecting.
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Anonymous L replied with this 15 years ago, 1 minute later, 11 hours after the original post[^][v]#167,630
Anonymous M replied with this 15 years ago, 2 minutes later, 11 hours after the original post[^][v]#167,632
@167,629 (A)
Have you ever had a crazy ex that you couldn't shake? Someone who knows you don't want them around but keeps trying to insert themselves into your affairs anyway? Once they know they have lost any hope of being treated with anything resembling respect or trust or even common courtesy they still stubbornly demand your attention by causing problems and starting pointless arguments because that's the only way they can "win" and get you to notice them. After a while, that becomes all they can do.
To4str feels a bit like one of those sometimes.
protip !!pMmAiEwOm replied with this 15 years ago, 37 seconds later, 12 hours after the original post[^][v]#167,633
So the way I'd see this is that for to4str, negative attention is better than no attention at all. In this way he's just like DM. Still, DM gets lots of attention, and he's never had to resort to a CP attack to get it.
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Anonymous S joined in and replied with this 15 years ago, 1 minute later, 12 hours after the original post[^][v]#167,638