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Topic: FAO: Father Merrin

Anonymous A started this discussion 6 years ago #93,779

How is it that humans can be forgiven of sin, but angels cannot?

Father Merrin !u5oFWxmY7U joined in and replied with this 6 years ago, 17 minutes later[^] [v] #1,061,227

To which angels are you referring? Lucifer and the fallen ones?

Mr. Augustine David joined in and replied with this 6 years ago, 1 minute later, 19 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #1,061,228

@previous (Father Merrin !u5oFWxmY7U)
he is referring to angels who have sinned

Father Merrin !u5oFWxmY7U replied with this 6 years ago, 7 minutes later, 26 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #1,061,229

@previous (Mr. Augustine David)
Let 'him' answer.

Anonymous D joined in and replied with this 6 years ago, 7 minutes later, 33 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #1,061,232

@1,061,227 (Father Merrin !u5oFWxmY7U)
Yes, those.

Mr. Augustine David replied with this 6 years ago, 1 minute later, 35 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #1,061,233

@1,061,229 (Father Merrin !u5oFWxmY7U)
are there any other angels that sinned besides the ones you mentioned? why do you always ask questions with obvious answers? why cant you ever believe multiple people are replying to your posts?

Father Merrin !u5oFWxmY7U replied with this 6 years ago, 42 seconds later, 35 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #1,061,234

@1,061,232 (D)
3 UIDs in one thread? Why? I get you needed them for those poll threads but why do it in here?

Answer with your OP UID please, otherwise I've no way of knowing in the future if it's you who is asking things.

Anonymous D replied with this 6 years ago, 1 minute later, 37 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #1,061,235

@previous (Father Merrin !u5oFWxmY7U)
It is I. You must have faith.

(Edited 39 seconds later.)

Father Merrin !u5oFWxmY7U replied with this 6 years ago, 1 minute later, 39 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #1,061,237

@1,061,233 (Mr. Augustine David)

> are there any other angels that sinned besides the ones you mentioned?

You didn't specify if you were referring to Lucifer and the 'one third' of angels who sinned with him, or angels that are currently sinless but who may sin in the future. The distinction matters in Catholic doctrine, since your question was about the possibility of forgiveness from sin.

> why do you always ask questions with obvious answers?

The fact you think the question has an obvious answer shows you know very little about what you're even asking.

> why cant you ever believe multiple people are replying to your posts?

I can. But on this occasion it's just you.

Father Merrin !u5oFWxmY7U double-posted this 6 years ago, 1 minute later, 40 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #1,061,238

@1,061,235 (D)

> It is I.

Then use your OP UID. I won't respond to this one anymore.

> You must have faith.

In God, yes. In you, not so much.

Mr. Augustine David replied with this 6 years ago, 8 minutes later, 49 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #1,061,240

@1,061,237 (Father Merrin !u5oFWxmY7U)
the obvious answer is that he was asking about angels in general and them apparently not being allowed to sin like humans are

Father Merrin !u5oFWxmY7U replied with this 6 years ago, 6 minutes later, 55 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #1,061,243

@previous (Mr. Augustine David)

> the obvious answer is that he was asking about angels in general and them apparently not being allowed to sin like humans are

You're all over the place now. Your question was about the possibility of forgiveness from sin, not about "not being allowed to sin like humans are". And as I've already stated, there is a difference in Catholic doctrine between the sin of Lucifer (for example) and other potential sins that may be committed by other angels.

Mr. Augustine David replied with this 6 years ago, 2 hours later, 3 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,061,310

@previous (Father Merrin !u5oFWxmY7U)
I'm not Matt u mora

Anonymous E joined in and replied with this 6 years ago, 26 minutes later, 3 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,061,317

Jesus didn’t die for angels, that’s why.

Anonymous F joined in and replied with this 6 years ago, 1 hour later, 4 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,061,324

@previous (E)
He didn't die for anyone because he doesn't exist.

Mr. Augustine David replied with this 6 years ago, 4 hours later, 9 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,061,365

@1,061,317 (E)
Wow an actual answer

Father Merrin !u5oFWxmY7U replied with this 6 years ago, 1 hour later, 10 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,061,377

@1,061,310 (Mr. Augustine David)

> I'm not Matt u mora

Who said anything about "Matt"?

Congratulations on outing yourself yet again. You really are terrible at this.

Mr. Augustine David replied with this 6 years ago, 28 minutes later, 10 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,061,378

@previous (Father Merrin !u5oFWxmY7U)
op is obviously matt. i only use this uid!

Anonymous E replied with this 6 years ago, 1 hour later, 12 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,061,389

@1,061,324 (F)
Virtually all scholars of antiquity agree that Jesus existed.

Anonymous F replied with this 6 years ago, 31 minutes later, 12 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,061,403

@1,061,378 (Mr. Augustine David)
Sup Matt?

Anonymous G joined in and replied with this 6 years ago, 2 minutes later, 12 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,061,404

@1,061,324 (F)

> He didn't die for anyone because he doesn't exist.

If you mean he wasn't the son of God, you're probably right. If you mean Jesus never even existed as a Nazarene religious teacher and historical character, you're a retard.

Mr. Augustine David replied with this 6 years ago, 52 seconds later, 12 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,061,405

@1,061,403 (F)
Who is Matt

Anonymous F replied with this 6 years ago, 5 minutes later, 12 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,061,410

@previous (Mr. Augustine David)
You

Anonymous H joined in and replied with this 6 years ago, 4 minutes later, 12 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,061,413

@1,061,317 (E)
> Jesus didn’t die for angels, that’s why.
This is the correct answer to the question. "Father" Merrin knows fuck all about anything.

Anonymous I joined in and replied with this 6 years ago, 43 minutes later, 13 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,061,440

@1,061,404 (G)

There isn't much evidence for his historicity.

Anonymous G replied with this 6 years ago, 14 minutes later, 13 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,061,446

@previous (I)

> There isn't much evidence for his historicity.

"Virtually all scholars who have investigated the history of the Christian movement find that the historicity of Jesus is effectively certain,[1][2][3] and standard historical criteria has aided in reconstructing his life.[4]"

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Historicity_of_Jesus

You're welcome.

Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 6 years ago, 1 minute later, 13 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,061,448

@previous (G)
> Wikipedia

Anonymous I replied with this 6 years ago, 1 minute later, 13 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,061,450

@1,061,446 (G)

Just saying that doesn't make it true.

Anonymous G replied with this 6 years ago, 1 minute later, 14 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,061,451

@1,061,448 (A)

> With citations

Anonymous G double-posted this 6 years ago, 35 seconds later, 14 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,061,452

@1,061,450 (I)

> Just saying that doesn't make it true.

Historical facts are what make it true.

Anonymous I replied with this 6 years ago, 4 minutes later, 14 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,061,453

@previous (G)

What facts? The earliest extra-biblical source is 1st century.

Anonymous G replied with this 6 years ago, 8 minutes later, 14 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,061,455

@previous (I)

> What facts? The earliest extra-biblical source is 1st century.

In other words, the same century Jesus was alive. You expected there to be records of Jesus' life from BEFORE the 1st century Anno Domini? Fuck you're retarded.

Anonymous I replied with this 6 years ago, 27 minutes later, 14 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,061,465

@previous (G)

Josephus Flavius, writing in 93-94. Also:

Josephus wrote all of his surviving works after his establishment in Rome (c. AD 71) under the patronage of the Flavian Emperor Vespasian. As is common with ancient texts, however, there are no extant (surviving) manuscripts of Josephus' works that can be dated before the 11th century, and the oldest of these were copied by Christian monks.

Anonymous H replied with this 6 years ago, 45 minutes later, 15 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,061,472

@1,061,455 (G)
@previous (I)
I highly recommend the works of Dr. Richard Carrier, in particular his books 'Proving History' and 'On the Historicity of Jesus'. He seems to be the best of a handful of people who have done thorough, unbiased research into this subject: https://www.richardcarrier.info
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