Minichan

Topic: So which shitty mod deleted the Chef Miller thread?

Anonymous A started this discussion 6 years ago #93,549

And why?

Anonymous B joined in and replied with this 6 years ago, 48 seconds later[^] [v] #1,058,939

You cannot post copyrighted material. Thanks. You also cannot dox, stalk, and harass people. This is the love fora. Thanks.

beckeyderp !3NeoVaGFAg joined in and replied with this 6 years ago, 1 minute later, 2 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #1,058,941

I did, because it was far too specific about locations, names, etc. I know that we all know the specific food truck, but I don't want to create a precedent where it's okay to post such detail if you find something out about a poster. I don't think you'd want your street name to be posted.

Generalities are okay.

Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 6 years ago, 2 minutes later, 5 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #1,058,943

@1,058,939 (B)
It's not copyrighted you ignoramus, copy and pasting some idiots ramblings doesn't fall under copywrite law. Also, it's not doxxing or stalking. Harassing? Maybe a little but its mild compared to other shit on here.

Get out of Matt's pocket!

Anonymous B replied with this 6 years ago, 4 seconds later, 5 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #1,058,944

@1,058,941 (beckeyderp !3NeoVaGFAg)
I love you. This is the love fora. Thanks.

beckeyderp !3NeoVaGFAg replied with this 6 years ago, 2 seconds later, 5 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #1,058,945

@1,058,939 (B)
I don't give a shit about copyright

Anonymous B replied with this 6 years ago, 33 seconds later, 5 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #1,058,946

@1,058,943 (A)
It is copyrighted. There is an entire page about it. Thanks. It is also clearly dox stalking and harassment.

Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 6 years ago, 23 seconds later, 6 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #1,058,947

@1,058,941 (beckeyderp !3NeoVaGFAg)
So if I edited out those details it would be okay?

Fake anon !ZkUt8arUCU joined in and replied with this 6 years ago, 18 seconds later, 6 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #1,058,948

@1,058,945 (beckeyderp !3NeoVaGFAg)
The next time I have a copyright dispute with $10 billion in damages I will seek out another attorney then I guess.

beckeyderp !3NeoVaGFAg replied with this 6 years ago, 2 minutes later, 8 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #1,058,949

@1,058,947 (A)
Probably not if you're just trying to skirt rules and be a shithead.

Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 6 years ago, 9 seconds later, 9 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #1,058,950

@1,058,946 (B)
You could never in a million years claim copywrite from someone copy and pasting a few paragraphs of that website onto this forum. You are delusional

Anonymous A (OP) double-posted this 6 years ago, 1 minute later, 10 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #1,058,951

@1,058,949 (beckeyderp !3NeoVaGFAg)
You say skirt rules but I'm just trying to stay within the rules and yes I'm a shithead but then I'm in good company here.

beckeyderp !3NeoVaGFAg replied with this 6 years ago, 9 seconds later, 10 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #1,058,952

@1,058,950 (A)
Your spelling is atrocious and you're also an idiot.

beckeyderp !3NeoVaGFAg double-posted this 6 years ago, 44 seconds later, 11 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #1,058,953

@1,058,951 (A)
Okay cool.

Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 6 years ago, 1 minute later, 12 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #1,058,955

@1,058,952 (beckeyderp !3NeoVaGFAg)
Yes I'm also an idiot.

@previous (beckeyderp !3NeoVaGFAg)
Thank you.

Anonymous A (OP) double-posted this 6 years ago, 50 seconds later, 13 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #1,058,956

(Citing a deleted or non-existent reply.)
Stop trying to hint towards my identity. Respect anonymous posters.

Anonymous E joined in and replied with this 6 years ago, 3 minutes later, 16 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #1,058,957

@1,058,953 (beckeyderp !3NeoVaGFAg)
Remember when you trolled me in PMs and told me you'd found a posters's Facebook and asked me if I wanted it?
That was funny..

Fake anon !ZkUt8arUCU replied with this 6 years ago, 2 minutes later, 18 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #1,058,958

@1,058,956 (A)
I don't respect any of our posters including mods/admins. Why should I start now?

Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 6 years ago, 34 seconds later, 19 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #1,058,959

@previous (Fake anon !ZkUt8arUCU)
Then you should respect the system of anonymity

beckeyderp !3NeoVaGFAg replied with this 6 years ago, 32 seconds later, 20 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #1,058,960

@1,058,957 (E)
Yes, you lost your fucking mind and started drooling uncontrollably lol. Dumbass

Anonymous E replied with this 6 years ago, 1 minute later, 21 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #1,058,961

@1,058,958 (Fake anon !ZkUt8arUCU)
Up your nose with a with a rubber hose...too...junior..

(Edited 19 seconds later.)

Killer Lettuce? !HonkUK.BIE joined in and replied with this 6 years ago, 4 minutes later, 25 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #1,058,962

@1,058,941 (beckeyderp !3NeoVaGFAg)
I feel it's worth pointing out that the text that was copied is publicly available on a certain food truck website. He made that information public himself.

@1,058,939 (B)
You need to stop mentioning copyright like it's a magic word that will force mods to delete all content reposted from that website. That does not seem to be how US copyright law works for websites.

Fake anon !ZkUt8arUCU replied with this 6 years ago, 5 minutes later, 31 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #1,058,963

@1,058,959 (A)
Oh shit I genuinely didn't even notice you posted this without your name!

I deleted the other post. Sorry.

(Edited 42 seconds later.)

Killer Lettuce? !HonkUK.BIE replied with this 6 years ago, 7 minutes later, 38 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #1,058,964

@previous (Fake anon !ZkUt8arUCU)
Apologising is for cucks. Now that you've shown such weakness, I cannot respect you. Thanks.

Fake anon !ZkUt8arUCU replied with this 6 years ago, 2 minutes later, 41 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #1,058,966

@previous (Killer Lettuce? !HonkUK.BIE)
Respect is for cucks. Now that I know you ever had respect for anyone, I cannot respect you either.

Anonymous G joined in and replied with this 6 years ago, 14 minutes later, 55 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #1,058,969

@1,058,961 (E)

> Up your nose with a with a rubber hose...too...junior..

That is so fucking 2nd grade. Grow up loser.

Anonymous B replied with this 6 years ago, 5 minutes later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #1,058,970

Why are people here so obsessed with stalking? It is uncanny.

Anonymous G replied with this 6 years ago, 3 minutes later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #1,058,973

@previous (B)
Asks the guy who continuously makes threads about syntax...

Anonymous H joined in and replied with this 6 years ago, 9 minutes later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #1,058,974

Without Matt/Syntax threads every topic would be fake_anon vigorously debating sub-130 IQ anons about trump, becky posting about TV dinners and talking about bad lifetime tv shows with kook while pretending kook isn’t a pedophilic freak

In short this website is trash and copy pasting blurbs from Matt’s fake food truck site isn’t going to make this crap hole and crappier

Anonymous H double-posted this 6 years ago, 32 seconds later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #1,058,976

@1,058,970 (B)
It’s fun

Killer Lettuce? !HonkUK.BIE replied with this 6 years ago, 30 minutes later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #1,058,984

@1,058,974 (H)
tbh I cringe a bit when people try to argue that Matt/Syntax posts are worth keeping around because they keep activity up. They are usually annoying and are mostly enjoyed by weirdos. Enjoying them reflects poorly on you. A slower but slightly less annoying Minichan would be and improvement.

Anonymous I joined in and replied with this 6 years ago, 48 seconds later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #1,058,985

@1,058,962 (Killer Lettuce? !HonkUK.BIE)

From what I understand, under Title 17 Chapter 512, Matt would actually be entitled to complain to Minichan's service provider if infringing material wasn't removed expeditiously.

Anonymous H replied with this 6 years ago, 8 minutes later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #1,058,988

@1,058,984 (Killer Lettuce? !HonkUK.BIE)

> tbh I cringe a bit when people try to argue that Matt/Syntax posts are worth keeping around because they keep activity up. They are usually annoying and are mostly enjoyed by weirdos. Enjoying them reflects poorly on you. A slower but slightly less annoying Minichan would be and improvement.

I don’t care how it reflects on me, it’s entertainment. A bunch of shut ins engaging in “quality discussion” about boring political shit isn’t interesting to me at all

Anonymous B replied with this 6 years ago, 5 minutes later, 2 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,058,989

@1,058,976 (H)
For losers.

Killer Lettuce? !HonkUK.BIE replied with this 6 years ago, 9 minutes later, 2 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,058,991

@1,058,988 (H)
I suppose that's good, because enjoying over a decade of the same shit reflects very poorly on your taste in humour.

Just as you find politics uninteresting, I usually find Matt/Syntax drama and its hangers-on pretty boring too.

@1,058,985 (I)
For context, he is complaining that copying text from his website onto Minichan is a copyright violation.

Having done a cursory Google myself, I found this document:
https://www.copyright.gov/circs/circ66.pdf
> An individual work that appears on a website can be registered if it constitutes copyrightable subject matter and contains a sufficient amount of original authorship. It should be registered according to the predominant copyrightable content. For example, if you want to protect a blog post consisting mainly of text, you can register the blog entry as a literary work.
To me, this suggests that he shouldn't go around threatening legal action over snippets of text.

Granted, I'm far from any kind of expert on copyright law, but it's my layman's assumption that he can't use copyright against Minichan just because someone quoted his website. Moreover, I don't think it's much of a leap to say he's acting in bad faith and is just saying "copyright" to try and scare the mods into deleting posts mocking him.

(Edited 51 seconds later.)

Anonymous B replied with this 6 years ago, 1 minute later, 2 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,058,992

@previous (Killer Lettuce? !HonkUK.BIE)
HE is acting in bad faith, but not the stalkers?? Are you fucking serious?

Anonymous H replied with this 6 years ago, 1 minute later, 2 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,058,996

@1,058,991 (Killer Lettuce? !HonkUK.BIE)
whatever troll continue your riveting copyright law debate with a fellow retard

Anonymous G replied with this 6 years ago, 27 seconds later, 2 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,058,997

@1,058,992 (B)
Stop referring to yourself as a third person

Killer Lettuce? !HonkUK.BIE replied with this 6 years ago, 4 minutes later, 2 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,058,998

@1,058,992 (B)
I never said anything about the Mattposters or their behaviour. Calm down.

I actually think it reflects kinda poorly on the Mattposters that they found that website, but Matt has repeatedly revealed his real name and personal details on here so I can't exactly punish them for Googling him.

(Edited 8 minutes later.)

Killer Lettuce? !HonkUK.BIE double-posted this 6 years ago, 1 minute later, 2 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,058,999

@1,058,996 (H)
Thank you, I will!

Anonymous G replied with this 6 years ago, 3 minutes later, 2 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,059,003

@1,058,998 (Killer Lettuce? !HonkUK.BIE)
What else is ironic is he went into a rage when his food truck was linked here. Then after it was deleted, he created multiple threads about it.

beckeyderp !3NeoVaGFAg replied with this 6 years ago, 16 minutes later, 2 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,059,010

@1,058,962 (Killer Lettuce? !HonkUK.BIE)
Yes, he made the information public but to my knowledge, did not post it here. My concern is how easy it is to find publicly available information about people if you know enough basic facts about them. I don't want to create the idea that something you find on the Internet is okay to post here unless the poster makes that connection himself on this website.

@1,058,991 (Killer Lettuce? !HonkUK.BIE)
I would consider it fair use because it's clearly done in a mocking/parodying way. Also, note that the fair-use exception is broader when it relates to a public figure, and Indy is the Internet's third greatest troll.

Anonymous B replied with this 6 years ago, 58 minutes later, 3 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,059,023

@1,058,998 (Killer Lettuce? !HonkUK.BIE)
He has never done that. He was dozed by Rod Pornhammer. Show me one link where he reveals his name and personal details. I will wait.

Anonymous I replied with this 6 years ago, 5 minutes later, 3 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,059,028

@1,058,991 (Killer Lettuce? !HonkUK.BIE)

> To me, this suggests that he shouldn't go around threatening legal action over snippets of text.

To me, it says the opposite. I read it to say that text on a website can copyright protected and classified as a literary work. Therefore, an unauthorized reproduction of that work would constitute a copyright violation.

tteh !GETFUCKED joined in and replied with this 6 years ago, 11 minutes later, 3 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,059,034

Externally hosted image

Killer Lettuce? !HonkUK.BIE replied with this 6 years ago, 12 minutes later, 4 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,059,035

@1,059,028 (I)
So yes, he would need to register his website's text as a "literary work", or something more appropriate to protect the text specifically. He has only been claiming that his website is copyrighted, ergo his website copyright doesn't protect him from people reporting his text.

But whatever. The fora's local legal person has weighed in on the matter, so I'll trust her judgement on the matter.

@1,059,023 (B)
Information about Matt, such as his name and location, could only have come from Matt in the first place. There is no elite hacker manoeuvre AC could have done to completely dox someone who had said nothing about themselves.

@previous (tteh !GETFUCKED)
Outdated meme tbh.

@1,059,010 (beckeyderp !3NeoVaGFAg)
Fair reasoning. Sometimes it's tricky to know where to draw the line on him because he's made so much public, but I suppose that's a reasonable boundary.

(Edited 21 seconds later.)

Anonymous B replied with this 6 years ago, 8 minutes later, 4 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,059,037

@previous (Killer Lettuce? !HonkUK.BIE)
Cite a single link in he last 10 years where Matt himself has given out any personal information. Rod Pornhammer took a pic that Matt had posted and geolocation him and took it from there.

beckeyderp !3NeoVaGFAg replied with this 6 years ago, 2 minutes later, 4 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,059,038

@previous (B)
You fucking retard, you realize that us linking to all the times you've given out personal info will mean MORE PEOPLE SEE YOUR PERSONAL INFO? Just shut up and go away, I deleted the post, quit whining for once.

beckeyderp !3NeoVaGFAg double-posted this 6 years ago, 4 minutes later, 4 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,059,039

@1,059,037 (B)
Also you sound drunk

Killer Lettuce? !HonkUK.BIE replied with this 6 years ago, 19 seconds later, 4 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,059,040

@1,059,037 (B)
Okay, so your theory is that AC used an at best general location (geolocating is often inaccurate) and a picture to uncover Matt's identity.

But since you asked:
http://minichan.org/topic/38685#reply_516147
Googling this leads you to a page wherein one can see Matt's name and picture, in fact.

(Edited 57 seconds later.)

Anonymous B replied with this 6 years ago, 3 minutes later, 4 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,059,041

@previous (Killer Lettuce? !HonkUK.BIE)
And you think that justifies obsessive stalking?

Killer Lettuce? !HonkUK.BIE replied with this 6 years ago, 4 minutes later, 4 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,059,043

@previous (B)
I think it justifies some reflection on keeping personal information private, at the very least.

Anonymous B replied with this 6 years ago, 8 minutes later, 4 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,059,046

@previous (Killer Lettuce? !HonkUK.BIE)
Does it, or does it not, justify stalking and real life harassment? Does it justify mailing obscene photos to family members and stalking loved ones’ funerals to mock them?

Anonymous K joined in and replied with this 6 years ago, 9 minutes later, 4 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,059,048

Why does there need to be a justification, can we just d it because it's funny?

beckeyderp !3NeoVaGFAg replied with this 6 years ago, 3 minutes later, 4 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,059,050

@1,059,046 (B)
You asked her to "cite a single link in he [sic] last 10 years where Matt himself has given out any personal information," which she did. Why are you so angry, you fucking retard?

Anonymous K replied with this 6 years ago, 2 minutes later, 4 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,059,051

@previous (beckeyderp !3NeoVaGFAg)
she?

beckeyderp !3NeoVaGFAg replied with this 6 years ago, 16 seconds later, 4 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,059,052

@previous (K)
Yes

Anonymous K replied with this 6 years ago, 39 seconds later, 4 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,059,053

@previous (beckeyderp !3NeoVaGFAg)
Wait, what? Is Killer Lettuce a chick?

Anonymous I replied with this 6 years ago, 9 minutes later, 5 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,059,054

@previous (K)

This is Neo-Killer Lettuce. Old Killer Lettuce disappeared some time ago.

Anonymous E replied with this 6 years ago, 5 minutes later, 5 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,059,055

@1,059,039 (beckeyderp !3NeoVaGFAg)
Rude..

beckeyderp !3NeoVaGFAg replied with this 6 years ago, 1 minute later, 5 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,059,056

@1,059,053 (K)
That is a philosophical question.

@previous (E)
Yeah, so? Bitch.

Anonymous G replied with this 6 years ago, 32 seconds later, 5 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,059,057

@1,059,046 (B)
Why the fuck are you still crying Matt?

Killer Lettuce? !HonkUK.BIE replied with this 6 years ago, 18 minutes later, 5 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,059,061

@1,059,050 (beckeyderp !3NeoVaGFAg)
Please don't misgender me, I am a manly dudebro who chugs brews and does not cry at sad movies. Thanks.

Fake anon !ZkUt8arUCU replied with this 6 years ago, 4 minutes later, 5 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,059,063

@previous (Killer Lettuce? !HonkUK.BIE)
Mistergender*

Anonymous K replied with this 6 years ago, 1 minute later, 5 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,059,064

@1,059,061 (Killer Lettuce? !HonkUK.BIE)
It's okay, tteh has corrected me. He said he has met you and you are a very awkard male.

Killer Lettuce? !HonkUK.BIE replied with this 6 years ago, 35 minutes later, 6 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,059,065

@previous (K)
It's Minichan, we are all awkward. Most of our meeting was awkward mumbling and avoiding eye contact while we sipped our soymilk drinks™.

tteh !GETFUCKED replied with this 6 years ago, 6 minutes later, 6 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,059,067

Externally hosted image@1,059,064 (K)
The first bit I said. The latter I did not!

Killer Lettuce? !HonkUK.BIE replied with this 6 years ago, 2 minutes later, 6 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,059,068

Externally hosted image@previous (tteh !GETFUCKED)
Don't bother, "bud". The truth is out now.

Anonymous L joined in and replied with this 6 years ago, 59 seconds later, 6 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,059,069

@1,058,946 (B)

> It is copyrighted. There is an entire page about it. Thanks.

The fact you wrote "an entire page about it" doesn't actually mean anything. You could write "an entire page" about how your posts on here are copyrighted, it wouldn't make them so.

tteh !GETFUCKED replied with this 6 years ago, 1 minute later, 6 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,059,071

Externally hosted image@1,059,068 (Killer Lettuce? !HonkUK.BIE)
I have documentary evidence!
<tteh> wow! his sex change must've been rapid since I last saw him
<tteh> truly we are living in the future
<ErikTheGreat> have you met him?
<tteh> yeah
<ErikTheGreat> I bet that was strange
<fake_anon> It's almost 2020
<fake_anon> Anything is possible
<ErikTheGreat> you too seem very much alike
<fake_anon> Because they are both homosexual Englishmen?

Meta !Sober//iZs joined in and replied with this 6 years ago, 3 minutes later, 6 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,059,076

@1,059,037 (B)

> Cite a single link in he last 10 years where Matt himself has given out any personal information. Rod Pornhammer took a pic that Matt had posted and geolocation him and took it from there.

To wit:

The approximately 10,000 times you solicited Paypal donations to mattmiller[email protected]
The time you posted photos with GPS metadata and I warned you about it privately in a PM and you then posted a screenshot of your PM inbox with that PM in it
Posting videos of your apartment and the surrounding streets, etc, allowing yourself to be located.

Killer Lettuce? !HonkUK.BIE replied with this 6 years ago, 1 minute later, 6 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,059,077

@1,059,071 (tteh !GETFUCKED)
I think we just found another entry for the Svet misspelling thread!

Fake anon !ZkUt8arUCU replied with this 6 years ago, 1 minute later, 6 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,059,078

@1,059,076 (Meta !Sober//iZs)
Ok however if you ignore all of that there are almost no examples of it.

Killer Lettuce? !HonkUK.BIE replied with this 6 years ago, 2 minutes later, 6 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,059,080

@1,059,076 (Meta !Sober//iZs)
damlol ?

(Edited 55 seconds later.)

tteh !GETFUCKED replied with this 6 years ago, 2 minutes later, 6 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,059,083

Externally hosted image@1,059,010 (beckeyderp !3NeoVaGFAg)
> Yes, he made the information public but to my knowledge, did not post it here. My concern is how easy it is to find publicly available information about people if you know enough basic facts about them. I don't want to create the idea that something you find on the Internet is okay to post here unless the poster makes that connection himself on this website.
Also FWIW (not that anybody asked), I completely agree with this.

Killer Lettuce? !HonkUK.BIE replied with this 6 years ago, 4 minutes later, 6 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,059,088

@1,059,078 (Fake anon !ZkUt8arUCU)
No, you are wrong. All of that came after AC, that nefarious man, used his powers of geolocation on some innocent pictures to expose all of that information.

Nevermind that geolocation can only give you at best a city and is useless without additional identifying information. It is the only explanation that makes sense.
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