Topic: META, let's have a serious conversation about education and liberalism
Anonymous A started this discussion 6 years ago #92,809
You claim that all 18+ years of education (at least in the US) is simply liberal indoctrination. How do you propose that these liberals sneak this indoctrination into courses? For example, a typical first-semester course load for an incoming freshman at a US university might look something like this:
Biology 101
Physics 101
Spanish 101
Art Survey
Ancient History up until the Roman Empire
Study Skills for Freshmen
Are you contending that there is actually a secret, liberal version of these topics, and that liberals are sneaking it into the courses?
Second, are you contending that someone who dropped out of school in Kindergarten would see the world more truthfully, and actually know more, than someone with, say, a PhD?
I want to have a serious discussion.
Biology 101
Physics 101
Spanish 101
Art Survey
Ancient History up until the Roman Empire
Study Skills for Freshmen
Are you contending that there is actually a secret, liberal version of these topics, and that liberals are sneaking it into the courses?
Second, are you contending that someone who dropped out of school in Kindergarten would see the world more truthfully, and actually know more, than someone with, say, a PhD?
I want to have a serious discussion.
Anonymous B joined in and replied with this 6 years ago, 23 minutes later[^] [v] #1,051,956
Meta !Sober//iZs joined in and replied with this 6 years ago, 13 minutes later, 36 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #1,051,962
I said it was 18+ years of indoctrination, not that it was all indoctrination. It's the same as, say, a Christian school. If you go to Christian schools all your life and then go to Oral Roberts University and graduate with a BS in mathematics (which they do offer, amongst a wide range of majors) you will have gotten an education and ~16 years of indoctrination into evangelical Christianity. So you know how to do math (and took a lot of other classes in the core curriculum) but you also think Jesus is lord and gays are going to burn in hell.
I never claimed it was "simply liberal indoctrination" anymore than I would claim a cake is "simply icing". When I say "this cake has a lot of icing on it", you saying "aha! cake is mostly flour! why do you think it is 'just icing'?" isn't quite the gotcha you think it is.
I never claimed it was "simply liberal indoctrination" anymore than I would claim a cake is "simply icing". When I say "this cake has a lot of icing on it", you saying "aha! cake is mostly flour! why do you think it is 'just icing'?" isn't quite the gotcha you think it is.
Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 6 years ago, 1 hour later, 2 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,052,004
@previous (Meta !Sober//iZs)
Where is the "liberal indoctrination" part? I have degrees. My professors talked about their subjects, not about what my politics should be,
Where is the "liberal indoctrination" part? I have degrees. My professors talked about their subjects, not about what my politics should be,