Topic: Matt, is there really any benefit to using fresh tomatoes vs. canned tomatoes for pasta sauce?
Anonymous A started this discussion 6 years ago #92,055
What is the benefit? I don't get it, most pasta sauce is made with canned and it turns out great.
Anonymous B joined in and replied with this 6 years ago, 39 minutes later[^] [v] #1,045,677
Fresh is always better. Fresh food contains chemical compound that degrade over time, exposure to air, etc. The longer the time, and the more processing, between living organism and you eating it, the less and lower quality the flavor overall.
Meta !Sober//iZs joined in and replied with this 6 years ago, 9 minutes later, 49 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #1,045,682
Anonymous B replied with this 6 years ago, 2 minutes later, 51 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #1,045,683
@previous (Meta !Sober//iZs)
That is why I said “overall”. The question is about cooking sauce. Yes, some products are preserved and aged in order to achieve a specific, desired effect, but that is not what this particular question is about.
That is why I said “overall”. The question is about cooking sauce. Yes, some products are preserved and aged in order to achieve a specific, desired effect, but that is not what this particular question is about.
Meta !Sober//iZs replied with this 6 years ago, 8 minutes later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #1,045,688
@previous (B)
You also said "fresh is always better". You don't know shit about cooking and you would rather eat Oscar Mayer lunchmeat and Kraft™ singles than prosciutto di parma and parmigiano reggiano because "it's more fresher so it tastes better". ?
You also said "fresh is always better". You don't know shit about cooking and you would rather eat Oscar Mayer lunchmeat and Kraft™ singles than prosciutto di parma and parmigiano reggiano because "it's more fresher so it tastes better". ?
Anonymous B replied with this 6 years ago, 3 minutes later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #1,045,691
@previous (Meta !Sober//iZs)
And here I was, fool that I am, thinking we were having an actual adult, real conversation.
And here I was, fool that I am, thinking we were having an actual adult, real conversation.
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Syntax joined in and replied with this 6 years ago, 1 hour later, 2 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,045,711
@1,045,677 (B)
https://www.bonappetit.com/story/canned-tomatoes-are-better-than-fresh-ones
That's right: 99% of the time, canned tomatoes are better than fresh. That’s the truth.
Also If one were to compare a Fresh Ripe Whole Tomato to a Canned Tomato
https://www.bonappetit.com/story/canned-tomatoes-are-better-than-fresh-ones
That's right: 99% of the time, canned tomatoes are better than fresh. That’s the truth.
Also If one were to compare a Fresh Ripe Whole Tomato to a Canned Tomato
Canned tomatoes offer something that fresh can't. Tomatoes are preserved using heat, which releases lycopene—a carotenoid that may help prevent prostate and breast cancer
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@1,045,711 (Syntax)
Wait, I thought you never posted on weekend nights? Gotcha! Denial ain’t a river in Egypt.
Wait, I thought you never posted on weekend nights? Gotcha! Denial ain’t a river in Egypt.
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So what is this amazing time-dependent chemical in tomatoes that breaks down if you put them in a can?
Even when I make sauce from fresh tomatoes it tastes better the longer I let it sit and simmer. Even then, the difference is usually just that I've been fussing over the spices and tasting it periodically. It doesn't taste appreciably different than the times I start with canned sauce because I don't feel like chopping/peeling/grating/picking seeds out of 8 lbs. of tomatoes.
Even when I make sauce from fresh tomatoes it tastes better the longer I let it sit and simmer. Even then, the difference is usually just that I've been fussing over the spices and tasting it periodically. It doesn't taste appreciably different than the times I start with canned sauce because I don't feel like chopping/peeling/grating/picking seeds out of 8 lbs. of tomatoes.
Anonymous F replied with this 6 years ago, 18 minutes later, 5 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,045,738
hormonal disruptionreproductive harm
increased risk of certain cancers
malformation of organs in children
risk of miscarriage
sperm defects
increased risk of mental disabilities in babies.
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Meta !Sober//iZs replied with this 6 years ago, 3 minutes later, 6 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,045,748
@1,045,735 (G)
You're doing it wrong. According to our resident chef:
> The longer the time, and the more processing, between living organism and you eating it, the less and lower quality the flavor overall.
What you need to do is just puree the tomatoes within 30 seconds of removing them from the vine and put them directly on the pasta.
You're doing it wrong. According to our resident chef:
> The longer the time, and the more processing, between living organism and you eating it, the less and lower quality the flavor overall.
What you need to do is just puree the tomatoes within 30 seconds of removing them from the vine and put them directly on the pasta.
Syntax replied with this 6 years ago, 2 minutes later, 6 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,045,749
San Marzano tomatoes are the most famous plum tomato to come out of Italy. They are grown in the rich volcanic soil at the base of Mount Vesuvius, which gives them a sweet flavor and low acidity and they are coveted for their firm pulp, deep red color, easy to remove skin and low seed count.
Outside of Italy only the San Marzano are available in cans
@1,045,729 (F)
As 2 Can Buy Products - A store bought fresh tomato is loaded with pesticides so there are tradeoffs.
Outside of Italy only the San Marzano are available in cans
The Runners Up
MUIR GLEN San Marzano-Style Whole Peeled Tomatoes.
Simpson Imports SAN MARZANO Whole Peeled Tomatoes.
CENTO ORGANIC WHOLE PEELED TOMATOES.
GUSTAROSSO POMODORO S. MARZANO DELL'AGRO SARNESE-NOCERINO D.O.P.
Apr 16, 2018
MUIR GLEN San Marzano-Style Whole Peeled Tomatoes.
Simpson Imports SAN MARZANO Whole Peeled Tomatoes.
CENTO ORGANIC WHOLE PEELED TOMATOES.
GUSTAROSSO POMODORO S. MARZANO DELL'AGRO SARNESE-NOCERINO D.O.P.
Apr 16, 2018
@1,045,729 (F)
As 2 Can Buy Products - A store bought fresh tomato is loaded with pesticides so there are tradeoffs.
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@1,045,731 (B)Mostly because I am so active. Last weekend dancing for hours after hours after hours in the streets. Dripping with sweat and the very idea I could do that with sunglasses boggles my mind. Besides I need a Gal who is going to stare into my Blue Eyes and with Glasses she will only see her reflection and she will then stress out about her hair being out of order or eye shadow smearing.
Running on the beach which I have cut way back on as I step it up or kick it up or Treadmill - Glasses while running - I guess if I must I will have to find a way to make that work - Goggles? Sure I use reading glasses and have for about one decade but my regular distant vision is still 20/20 but now with Sun Damage
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@previous (B)
Two questions:
1. Who are you?
2. Who is this Syntax person, and why do you care about his social life?
Two questions:
1. Who are you?
2. Who is this Syntax person, and why do you care about his social life?
Syntax replied with this 6 years ago, 15 minutes later, 10 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,045,767
@previous (I)
Careful. He the Rat caught in his own trap will tell you Denial is just like the River in Egypt.
@1,045,765 (B)
So you telling US LAST NITE was Friday? On Planet Earth there is NO Place where Last Night was Friday
Last nite was Saturday and with 17 total events to dance at and listen to music and be with friends Y y Y wood I want to be on this keyboard on a Sat Nite????
Give me just one good reason - Incels of course have their reasons and Married in need of a break from wife n kids
Careful. He the Rat caught in his own trap will tell you Denial is just like the River in Egypt.
@1,045,765 (B)
So you telling US LAST NITE was Friday? On Planet Earth there is NO Place where Last Night was Friday
Last nite was Saturday and with 17 total events to dance at and listen to music and be with friends Y y Y wood I want to be on this keyboard on a Sat Nite????
Give me just one good reason - Incels of course have their reasons and Married in need of a break from wife n kids
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Green !StaYqkzUPc joined in and replied with this 6 years ago, 53 minutes later, 15 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,045,847
I just use ketchup. Thanks.
Syntax joined in and replied with this 6 years ago, 1 hour later, 16 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,045,901
@previous (Green !StaYqkzUPc)
My Ex Wife now passed told me that as a child when her dad as once famous screen/tv writer lost job/work, as result of polio and broke as all fuck and with 5 kids and wife. Family wood go to a restaurant where they got hot water and used packets of ketchup to make tomato soup - Might have been just one or two kids and dad doing this.
I have not tasted ketchup as far as I am aware in many a decade. My MoM was totally against ketchup, because it contains so much sugar.
My Ex Wife now passed told me that as a child when her dad as once famous screen/tv writer lost job/work, as result of polio and broke as all fuck and with 5 kids and wife. Family wood go to a restaurant where they got hot water and used packets of ketchup to make tomato soup - Might have been just one or two kids and dad doing this.
I have not tasted ketchup as far as I am aware in many a decade. My MoM was totally against ketchup, because it contains so much sugar.
