Topic: Greta Thunberg
Anonymous A started this discussion 6 years ago #91,824
Is she an Autist?
Anonymous B joined in and replied with this 6 years ago, 25 seconds later[^] [v] #1,043,781
Yes
Erik !jzYkdX7lIw joined in and replied with this 6 years ago, 21 seconds later, 46 seconds after the original post[^] [v] #1,043,782
Yes, I think her mother was a heavy drinker when she was pregnant
Anonymous D joined in and replied with this 6 years ago, 17 minutes later, 17 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #1,043,787
She's a reaction image goldmine.
Erik !jzYkdX7lIw replied with this 6 years ago, 1 minute later, 19 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #1,043,789
Meta !Sober//iZs joined in and replied with this 6 years ago, 1 hour later, 2 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,043,823
Something's definitely "off" about her face ?
Anonymous F joined in and replied with this 6 years ago, 2 minutes later, 2 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,043,824
https://www.spectrumnews.org/news/facial-features-provide-clue-to-autism-severity/
More importantly, though, who cares?
Boys with autism have a distinct facial structure that differs from that of typically developing controls, according to a study published 14 October in Molecular Autism. Specifically, boys with autism have broader faces and mouths, flatter noses, narrower cheeks and a shorter philtrum — the cleft between the lips and nose — compared with controls, according to the three-dimensional facial imaging system used in the study. These distinctive features suggest that certain embryonic processes that give rise to facial features are perturbed during development, the researchers say.
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“As a clinical geneticist, I have always been impressed by a certain facial phenotype in children with autism,” says lead investigator Judith Miles. But it wasn’t until she turned to 3DMD, developed for use by plastic surgeons, that clear quantitative differences emerged between boys with autism and controls, she says.
Probably applies to girls too, but this study only investigated boys....
“As a clinical geneticist, I have always been impressed by a certain facial phenotype in children with autism,” says lead investigator Judith Miles. But it wasn’t until she turned to 3DMD, developed for use by plastic surgeons, that clear quantitative differences emerged between boys with autism and controls, she says.
More importantly, though, who cares?
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Anonymous H joined in and replied with this 6 years ago, 28 seconds later, 2 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,043,826
Oh dear, it looks like Greta has struck a nerve. :))))
Anonymous I joined in and replied with this 6 years ago, 5 minutes later, 2 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,043,827
She was diagnosed with Assburgers and selective mutism, which is what she told everybody in a Ted Talk. Strange - genuinely autistic people don't do well making speeches and going on talk shows.
Her father (who is a producer) must be making a fortune.
Her father (who is a producer) must be making a fortune.
Anonymous H replied with this 6 years ago, 5 minutes later, 2 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,043,829
@previous (I)
> genuinely autistic people don't do well making speeches and going on talk shows.
That isn't an absolute. Autistic people can become socially competent and good public speakers with practice. Also, "genuinely autistic" is a misnomer. It's a spectrum that can vary greatly in severity and exact symptoms.
> genuinely autistic people don't do well making speeches and going on talk shows.
That isn't an absolute. Autistic people can become socially competent and good public speakers with practice. Also, "genuinely autistic" is a misnomer. It's a spectrum that can vary greatly in severity and exact symptoms.
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Anonymous J joined in and replied with this 6 years ago, 9 minutes later, 2 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,043,834
@1,043,824 (F)The research on facial phenotype is all over the place. The article you quote is from 2011. Other articles have linked autism with facial asymmetry and "masculinized" faces due to prenatal testosterone exposure. Some just try to find cranial measurement differences like modern day phrenologists with 3D scanners. There really isn't much of a working hypothesis about the "why", let alone an agreement about the "what" in terms of autistic facial features.
> More importantly, though, who cares?
This is probably how the public should react to research about facial phenotype in autistic kids.
Kook !!rcSrAtaAC joined in and replied with this 6 years ago, 10 minutes later, 2 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,043,841
@previous (J)
I believe in autism face for males. I have two autistic cousins who are not related and they both have that Chris Chan vibe
I believe in autism face for males. I have two autistic cousins who are not related and they both have that Chris Chan vibe
Green !StaYqkzUPc joined in and replied with this 6 years ago, 12 minutes later, 2 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,043,847
She's one hell of an actress!
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Anonymous J replied with this 6 years ago, 1 minute later, 3 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,043,851
@1,043,841 (Kook !!rcSrAtaAC)
Perhaps you can find some quantifiable trends and sort the research community out. They seem to be coming up with different answers all the time. If it exists then we should be able to describe it somehow.
There certainly does seem to be something "off" about the faces of autistic kids. I would be curious to know if anyone has ruled out a tendency to have a different "resting" facial expression. Most kids indicate their emotions through facial expressions pretty naturally and read facial expressions off of others. Kids even 'pick up' facial expressions from their parents and schoolmates. I wonder what kind of differences autism spectrum kids experience in this regard developmentally.
Perhaps you can find some quantifiable trends and sort the research community out. They seem to be coming up with different answers all the time. If it exists then we should be able to describe it somehow.
There certainly does seem to be something "off" about the faces of autistic kids. I would be curious to know if anyone has ruled out a tendency to have a different "resting" facial expression. Most kids indicate their emotions through facial expressions pretty naturally and read facial expressions off of others. Kids even 'pick up' facial expressions from their parents and schoolmates. I wonder what kind of differences autism spectrum kids experience in this regard developmentally.
Anonymous D replied with this 6 years ago, 14 seconds later, 3 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,043,852
inb4 her handlers have her assassinated to make her immortal.
Anonymous I replied with this 6 years ago, 4 minutes later, 3 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,043,853
@1,043,847 (Green !StaYqkzUPc)
> She's one hell of an actress!
I suppose she's making the best she can out of an appalling script:
"You all come to us young people for hope. How dare you! You have stolen my dreams and my childhood with your empty words!"
[sobbing]
Give me a break.
> She's one hell of an actress!
I suppose she's making the best she can out of an appalling script:
"You all come to us young people for hope. How dare you! You have stolen my dreams and my childhood with your empty words!"
[sobbing]
Give me a break.
Anonymous J replied with this 6 years ago, 3 minutes later, 3 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,043,855
@previous (I)
She's certainly getting to you. Maybe we'll give her an Oscar if there's enough butthurt.
She's certainly getting to you. Maybe we'll give her an Oscar if there's enough butthurt.
Anonymous I replied with this 6 years ago, 4 minutes later, 3 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,043,856
@previous (J)
> She's certainly getting to you. Maybe we'll give her an Oscar if there's enough butthurt.
Not sure what you mean exactly?
> She's certainly getting to you. Maybe we'll give her an Oscar if there's enough butthurt.
Not sure what you mean exactly?
Dr. Chattanooga !!QzKAwjDqY joined in and replied with this 6 years ago, 3 minutes later, 3 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,043,859
Nice madspeech.Anonymous J replied with this 6 years ago, 5 minutes later, 3 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,043,860
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Kook !!rcSrAtaAC replied with this 6 years ago, 1 hour later, 4 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,043,889
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@1,043,889 (Kook !!rcSrAtaAC)
> I feel like that attempting to do such research would end in backlash
People are doing research like that all the time. Enter "autism facial phentoype" into Google Scholar or SciHub and there loads to read through.
> I feel like that attempting to do such research would end in backlash
People are doing research like that all the time. Enter "autism facial phentoype" into Google Scholar or SciHub and there loads to read through.