Topic: Articles I enjoy reading from the NY Times Archive
Fake anon !ZkUt8arUCU started this discussion 6 years ago #91,502
This one is called "[Hard R] Day in a Country Town", published on November 30, 1874. I'm just going to be highlighting selections because the whole article is too long to fit into a couple images."Why are black people so financially illiterate?" wonders the man in Alabama 1874, which just lost a war to keep black people enslaved and illiterate.
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Fake anon !ZkUt8arUCU (OP) double-posted this 6 years ago, 2 minutes later[^] [v] #1,040,590
The best beginning to any story ever written.Fake anon !ZkUt8arUCU (OP) triple-posted this 6 years ago, 1 minute later, 4 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #1,040,591
The moral of the story is the last sentence...I guess.Anonymous B joined in and replied with this 6 years ago, 2 minutes later, 7 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #1,040,593
wow were these written by syntax?
Fake anon !ZkUt8arUCU (OP) replied with this 6 years ago, 3 minutes later, 10 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #1,040,594
This is the most disgusting thing I've seen in a newspaper. This was also the majority sentiment of white Americans.tteh !IAMGAYLOL joined in and replied with this 6 years ago, 7 minutes later, 18 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #1,040,596
Fake anon !ZkUt8arUCU (OP) replied with this 6 years ago, 17 seconds later, 18 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #1,040,597
@1,040,593 (B)I don't think so. Maybe one of his great grandchildren did.
Here we have a very early American example of a "Backhanded compliment" that probably made everyone mad.
tteh !IAMGAYLOL replied with this 6 years ago, 3 minutes later, 21 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #1,040,599
Did you search "niggers" to find these or what?
Fake anon !ZkUt8arUCU (OP) replied with this 6 years ago, 1 minute later, 23 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #1,040,600
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These are all from the same article, but actually yes! I was looking up hitler earlier and wanted to see what the NY Times had to say about black people in the 1800s.
These are all from the same article, but actually yes! I was looking up hitler earlier and wanted to see what the NY Times had to say about black people in the 1800s.
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Fake anon !ZkUt8arUCU (OP) double-posted this 6 years ago, 2 minutes later, 35 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #1,040,606
From an article entitled "Mr. Speaker On the Rights of N-Words" August 31, 1958.I literally laughed when I read this. What the actual fuck.
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Syntax joined in and replied with this 6 years ago, 4 minutes later, 39 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #1,040,608
@previous (Fake anon !ZkUt8arUCU)
It is tedious for me to have to clear cookies to read NYT. I have of course found a way around that but I suspect my ExJewish Guilt + sum Catholic Guilt will force me to very soon subscribe on-line because I do use NYT so often. Same for Washington Post - I just kicked in for yearly Wikipedia donation but them only use cookies so when I on rare occasions use another browser or device I still get Please to Not cheat us and donate Stuff
It is tedious for me to have to clear cookies to read NYT. I have of course found a way around that but I suspect my ExJewish Guilt + sum Catholic Guilt will force me to very soon subscribe on-line because I do use NYT so often. Same for Washington Post - I just kicked in for yearly Wikipedia donation but them only use cookies so when I on rare occasions use another browser or device I still get Please to Not cheat us and donate Stuff
Fake anon !ZkUt8arUCU (OP) replied with this 6 years ago, 2 minutes later, 41 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #1,040,609
Last one about black people for now. This is just some good ol' boys learning a lesson!From an article entitled "How They Lick Their N-Words" Published December 31, 1883.
Fake anon !ZkUt8arUCU (OP) double-posted this 6 years ago, 55 seconds later, 42 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #1,040,610
@1,040,608 (Syntax)
My parents have a digital subscription so I use that. If they didn't I'd pay for it myself because I like having access to the crossword and archive.
My parents have a digital subscription so I use that. If they didn't I'd pay for it myself because I like having access to the crossword and archive.
Syntax replied with this 6 years ago, 11 minutes later, 53 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #1,040,611
@previous (Fake anon !ZkUt8arUCU)This will be my departure reply/post until 2Morrow as Kaboo calls me and damn how I Love Music Festivals.
You can do this by podcast or record just the online PBS Radio show - Oh this makes it super simple - I record the Morning All things AM version daily and on Sundays Will Shortz the Editor of NYT Puzzles does this
https://www.npr.org/series/4473090/sunday-puzzle
I do them but only to completion about one a month at best and get it spot on - hard to not use Google, but cheating makes no sense because I wood only cheat on me and dats no fun.
So C Ya all wayyy late 2nite post Festival or 2Morrow
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Fake anon !ZkUt8arUCU (OP) replied with this 6 years ago, 1 hour later, 2 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,040,617
Now I know why Syntax quotes Mark Twain. He was a friend of the jews!Published September 3, 1899
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Meta !Sober//iZs joined in and replied with this 6 years ago, 1 hour later, 3 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,040,644
> "[Hard R] Day in a Country Town"
It took me a minute to realize that "Hard R" meant the word "nigger" (as opposed to "nigga"). It's kind of interesting we've gone from "n-word" to just whether the word ends in "r" or not. The main thing I wonder is: was did the nigger/nigga distinction exist at the time these articles were written? Were they considered separate words, or just a rhotic/non-rhotic pronunciation difference of the same word?
If I'm not mistaken the polite (what we would now call "politically correct") term in this era was "negro" or "colored" (or did colored come later?). Which makes the NYT's use of "nigger" quite shocking to me.
I'm surprised they haven't made some kind of machine learning thing to go back through the archives and bowdlerize them ?
It took me a minute to realize that "Hard R" meant the word "nigger" (as opposed to "nigga"). It's kind of interesting we've gone from "n-word" to just whether the word ends in "r" or not. The main thing I wonder is: was did the nigger/nigga distinction exist at the time these articles were written? Were they considered separate words, or just a rhotic/non-rhotic pronunciation difference of the same word?
If I'm not mistaken the polite (what we would now call "politically correct") term in this era was "negro" or "colored" (or did colored come later?). Which makes the NYT's use of "nigger" quite shocking to me.
I'm surprised they haven't made some kind of machine learning thing to go back through the archives and bowdlerize them ?
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tteh !IAMGAYLOL replied with this 6 years ago, 3 minutes later, 3 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,040,646
@previous (Meta !Sober//iZs)
Brits (well, most of us with non-rhotic accents) pronounce nigger and nigga the same, so the distinction is pretty funny to me.
Brits (well, most of us with non-rhotic accents) pronounce nigger and nigga the same, so the distinction is pretty funny to me.
Fake anon !ZkUt8arUCU (OP) replied with this 6 years ago, 2 minutes later, 3 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,040,649
@1,040,644 (Meta !Sober//iZs)
"Colored" is pretty common, as is "Negro/Negroes". They usually use "Nigger" when quoting or referring to Southern people's use of the term. I think bowdlerizing them would do a great disservice to accurately conveying the history of the U.S. and I'm not surprised they haven't.
"Colored" is pretty common, as is "Negro/Negroes". They usually use "Nigger" when quoting or referring to Southern people's use of the term. I think bowdlerizing them would do a great disservice to accurately conveying the history of the U.S. and I'm not surprised they haven't.
Meta !Sober//iZs replied with this 6 years ago, 2 hours later, 6 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,040,698
@previous (Fake anon !ZkUt8arUCU)
What I would like to see is the NYT reporters of the late 19th century pulled out of 1889 and dropped into the 2019 New York Times newsroom. How would 2019 NYT reporters perceive the racial views of their 1880s predecessors? (I'm guessing in the 1880s as now, NYT reporters would have been considered well educated and solidly progressive for their time).
What do NYT reporters write now about race that will be considered horrifying and shocking in 2169?
What I would like to see is the NYT reporters of the late 19th century pulled out of 1889 and dropped into the 2019 New York Times newsroom. How would 2019 NYT reporters perceive the racial views of their 1880s predecessors? (I'm guessing in the 1880s as now, NYT reporters would have been considered well educated and solidly progressive for their time).
What do NYT reporters write now about race that will be considered horrifying and shocking in 2169?
Anonymous H joined in and replied with this 6 years ago, 13 hours later, 19 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,040,784
Itt: goof googles racist term, discovers racist material
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