Topic: somehow Joe Rogan did not know that water takes up more space as a solid compared to a liquid
Sheila LaBoof started this discussion 6 years ago#91,209
The most recent interview with Neil Tyson - the conversation got to icebergs at we find that Joe somehow was unaware of ice being less dense than the liquid. I'm a few minutes in and Neil has yet to say, why do you think ice even floats dude
Meta !Sober//iZs joined in and replied with this 6 years ago, 1 hour later, 1 hour after the original post[^][v]#1,037,894
It IS weird though. Given that 99.9% of materials do not behave like this you can't blame Rogan for thinking the solid would be denser than the liquid.
Sheila LaBoof (OP) replied with this 6 years ago, 20 minutes later, 2 hours after the original post[^][v]#1,037,898
well sure, I just find myself surprised once in a while when someone doesn't know something that I thought was pretty commonly known, versus some shithead elsewhere on the net who got huffy because I hadn't heard of some fuckhead rap asshole who had a jerk off hit and everyone's kids will never have heard of the asshole either in a year
Anonymous E joined in and replied with this 6 years ago, 4 minutes later, 2 hours after the original post[^][v]#1,037,901
@1,037,894 (Meta !Sober//iZs) > Given that 99.9% of materials do not behave like this you can't blame Rogan for thinking the solid would be denser than the liquid.
I would give him a pass if it were some rare situation that no one could be expected to have any day-to-day experience with, but anyone who has ever stared at ice floating in their drink should really know that ice floats in water.
Anonymous B replied with this 6 years ago, 8 hours later, 10 hours after the original post[^][v]#1,037,952
This kind of thing happens a lot whenever you try to explain things to women.
Meta !Sober//iZs replied with this 6 years ago, 13 hours later, 1 day after the original post[^][v]#1,038,127
@1,037,901 (E)
Sublimation is another weird one. Like I know dry ice doesn't "melt" and the CO2 goes directly from solid to gas as it heats up, but I still cannot picture how this would work in my mind because most things go solid->liquid->gas as they heat up.
As for ice in drinks I think it's entirely possible a lot of people don't think about it all. Just thinking about this, why does water go from liquid to gas as it boils? I mean it's like either one or the other. But why doesn't it just get progressively less dense as it heats up toward boiling? Why is the liquid to gas transition discrete rather than continuous?
Sheila LaBoof (OP) replied with this 6 years ago, 14 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^][v]#1,038,131
molecules can jump off of solids. if you have a frost-free freezer, ice that you put in there will shrink over time as molecules jump free and are fanned out.
Anonymous B replied with this 6 years ago, 9 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^][v]#1,038,135
If the woman floats she is a witch. And if she sinks and drowns she was not a witch.
Anonymous E replied with this 6 years ago, 1 hour later, 1 day after the original post[^][v]#1,038,163
@1,038,127 (Meta !Sober//iZs) > Just thinking about this, why does water go from liquid to gas as it boils? I mean it's like either one or the other. But why doesn't it just get progressively less dense as it heats up toward boiling? Why is the liquid to gas transition discrete rather than continuous?
You would probably have to find a materials chemist and endure a long lecture about triple point equilibria before being shown an agonizing series of graphs demonstrating that discrete phase changes exist as trends in larger systems at a particular combination of temperatures and pressures dependent on the particular masses and charge properties of the molecules making up the system. I mean, gag me a spoon, that sounds fuckin' boring. I'd rather just stare the ice in my gin and tonic.
> As for ice in drinks I think it's entirely possible a lot of people don't think about it all.
Apparently Joe Rogan doesn't. I had always imagined him as a deep thinker. It is really fun to stare the ice in your glass and ponder all the unique properties of water that make it a more convenient medium for life than other liquids while also allowing the cold part of your drink to float on the surface where it can more effectively cool the warmer parts of your drink.
Meta !Sober//iZs replied with this 6 years ago, 45 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^][v]#1,038,169
@previous (E) > the unique properties of water that make it a more convenient medium for life than other liquids while also allowing the cold part of your drink to float on the surface where it can more effectively cool the warmer parts of your drink.
This unironically sounds like an intelligent design argument. It would fit quite nicely with the stuff about how the earth just happens to be the perfect distance - not too hot or too cold - from the sun ?
Anonymous E replied with this 6 years ago, 17 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^][v]#1,038,172
@previous (Meta !Sober//iZs) > This unironically sounds like an intelligent design argument. It would fit quite nicely with the stuff about how the earth just happens to be the perfect distance - not too hot or too cold - from the sun
It's only 1/8th intelligent. It falls to 1/9th intelligent if you include Pluto.?
Seriously, an intelligent designer could have made a year evenly divisible by lunar cycles and days. What am I supposed to do with the numbers 365.24 and 27.3?? No one who has ever tried to make a rational calendar system will buy that "Oooh, everything's just right!" bullshit.
Sheila LaBoof (OP) replied with this 6 years ago, 21 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^][v]#1,038,174
plus the bit about the waste of space that is the rest of the universe