Topic: Why do people insist on calling lolicon and shotacon "child pornography"?
Voice of !WisdomHsuU started this discussion 15 years ago #8,990
No matter how many times it's explained, people still try to redefine the word to make lolicon and shotacon seem worse than they are.
NOTE: this topic is for discussion, not for lolicon or shotacon. If you want that shit, then go somewhere else.
NOTE: this topic is for discussion, not for lolicon or shotacon. If you want that shit, then go somewhere else.
vocalon !!jdS+H4VgV joined in and replied with this 15 years ago, 1 minute later[^] [v] #158,990
spamming much?swamplights !!V3J448+/B joined in and replied with this 15 years ago, 5 seconds later, 1 minute after the original post[^] [v] #158,991
Is this thread against the rules,mods?
protip !!pMmAiEwOm joined in and replied with this 15 years ago, 32 seconds later, 1 minute after the original post[^] [v] #158,992
inb4 ban
Anonymod joined in and replied with this 15 years ago, 45 seconds later, 2 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #158,993
@158,991 (swamplights !!V3J448+/B)
Not to my knowledge, and imo it should be left up without being locked.
Not to my knowledge, and imo it should be left up without being locked.
Voice of !WisdomHsuU (OP) replied with this 15 years ago, 40 seconds later, 3 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #158,994
Voice of !WisdomHsuU (OP) double-posted this 15 years ago, 4 minutes later, 8 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #158,997
(Citing a deleted or non-existent reply.)
> this will be the third time you've posted this thread
I wouldn't have to repost it if they weren't removed.
> this will be the third time you've posted this thread
I wouldn't have to repost it if they weren't removed.
vocalon !!jdS+H4VgV replied with this 15 years ago, 42 seconds later, 8 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #158,998
Voice of !WisdomHsuU (OP) replied with this 15 years ago, 39 seconds later, 9 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #159,000
vocalon !!jdS+H4VgV replied with this 15 years ago, 26 seconds later, 9 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #159,001
Anonymous E replied with this 15 years ago, 14 seconds later, 10 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #159,002
Don't link to lolicon. If you do, your reply will be deleted.
Anonymous F joined in and replied with this 15 years ago, 2 seconds later, 10 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #159,003
vocalon !!jdS+H4VgV replied with this 15 years ago, 30 seconds later, 10 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #159,004
Anonymous G joined in and replied with this 15 years ago, 39 seconds later, 11 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #159,005
@OP
Pedo scum.
Pedo scum.
swamplights !!V3J448+/B replied with this 15 years ago, 1 minute later, 13 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #159,007
vocalon !!jdS+H4VgV replied with this 15 years ago, 1 minute later, 14 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #159,008
Voice of !WisdomHsuU (OP) replied with this 15 years ago, 41 seconds later, 15 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #159,009
@159,003 (F)
Hi there! You appear to be on the wrong Web site! Don't worry, for the members of the Minichan committee are always willing to assist. It appears as though you've posted a response that has nothing to do with the subject matter at hand, and that isn't allowed on this Web site. I suggest you take such responses to a board more tolerant of off-topic silliness. Here, let me direct you over to Tinychan and I hope you have a nice time on this board.
Hi there! You appear to be on the wrong Web site! Don't worry, for the members of the Minichan committee are always willing to assist. It appears as though you've posted a response that has nothing to do with the subject matter at hand, and that isn't allowed on this Web site. I suggest you take such responses to a board more tolerant of off-topic silliness. Here, let me direct you over to Tinychan and I hope you have a nice time on this board.
swamplights !!V3J448+/B replied with this 15 years ago, 13 seconds later, 15 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #159,010
vocalon !!jdS+H4VgV replied with this 15 years ago, 16 seconds later, 15 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #159,011
protip !!pMmAiEwOm replied with this 15 years ago, 9 seconds later, 15 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #159,012
swamplights !!V3J448+/B replied with this 15 years ago, 48 seconds later, 16 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #159,013
Ks !KansasxqvM joined in and replied with this 15 years ago, 20 seconds later, 16 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #159,014
Voice of !WisdomHsuU (OP) replied with this 15 years ago, 10 seconds later, 17 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #159,015
@159,010 (swamplights !!V3J448+/B)
Gelbooru is a popular image database for images of Japanese origin.
Gelbooru is a popular image database for images of Japanese origin.
vocalon !!jdS+H4VgV replied with this 15 years ago, 13 seconds later, 17 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #159,016
@159,013 (swamplights !!V3J448+/B)
Nah, went like this:
> go to gelbooru
> type in loli
> surgery scene
> psychopath fapped
Nah, went like this:
> go to gelbooru
> type in loli
> surgery scene
> psychopath fapped
swamplights !!V3J448+/B replied with this 15 years ago, 42 seconds later, 17 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #159,017
swamplights !!V3J448+/B double-posted this 15 years ago, 27 seconds later, 18 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #159,018
@159,015 (Voice of !WisdomHsuU)
I see. I'm sorry that people delete and lock your threads for no reason.
I see. I'm sorry that people delete and lock your threads for no reason.
Anonymous G replied with this 15 years ago, 54 seconds later, 19 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #159,019
Voice of !WisdomHsuU (OP) replied with this 15 years ago, 58 seconds later, 20 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #159,020
@159,018 (swamplights !!V3J448+/B)
I think it was done because it was easier to just delete the topic than to try and pick out the crapflood. For whatever reason, my second topic was locked within seconds, but this one is up just fine.
I think it was done because it was easier to just delete the topic than to try and pick out the crapflood. For whatever reason, my second topic was locked within seconds, but this one is up just fine.
vocalon !!jdS+H4VgV replied with this 15 years ago, 10 seconds later, 20 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #159,021
@159,017 (swamplights !!V3J448+/B)
Sort of.
I had the reply like this:
> This is the third time you've posted this thread, you've become exceedingly efficient at it.
> Also, I don't care how you interpret it, but to everyone else your loli will always be this: (link to Gelbooru)
It was just some link I pulled up.
Sort of.
I had the reply like this:
> This is the third time you've posted this thread, you've become exceedingly efficient at it.
> Also, I don't care how you interpret it, but to everyone else your loli will always be this: (link to Gelbooru)
It was just some link I pulled up.
swamplights !!V3J448+/B replied with this 15 years ago, 17 seconds later, 20 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #159,022
@159,019 (G)
Enabling what? He didn't break any rules. Also, if lolicon is so bad,why isn't anyone getting on vocalon's ass?
Enabling what? He didn't break any rules. Also, if lolicon is so bad,why isn't anyone getting on vocalon's ass?
swamplights !!V3J448+/B double-posted this 15 years ago, 35 seconds later, 21 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #159,024
vocalon !!jdS+H4VgV replied with this 15 years ago, 16 seconds later, 21 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #159,026
@159,022 (swamplights !!V3J448+/B)
Because I didn't seriously post it.
And what about this: http://minichan.org/topic/8901#reply_156645
Because I didn't seriously post it.
And what about this: http://minichan.org/topic/8901#reply_156645
Voice of !WisdomHsuU (OP) replied with this 15 years ago, 12 seconds later, 21 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #159,027
vocalon !!jdS+H4VgV replied with this 15 years ago, 1 minute later, 23 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #159,029
Voice of !WisdomHsuU (OP) replied with this 15 years ago, 1 minute later, 25 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #159,031
Anonymous G replied with this 15 years ago, 1 minute later, 26 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #159,033
swamplights !!V3J448+/B replied with this 15 years ago, 17 seconds later, 26 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #159,034
@159,026 (vocalon !!jdS+H4VgV)
Why does it matter if it was posted seriously or not? Isn't it still disgusting?
Why does it matter if it was posted seriously or not? Isn't it still disgusting?
swamplights !!V3J448+/B double-posted this 15 years ago, 30 seconds later, 27 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #159,035
vocalon !!jdS+H4VgV replied with this 15 years ago, 15 seconds later, 27 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #159,036
@159,034 (swamplights !!V3J448+/B)
Yes, but still, would you use a corpse as a reference in a murder trial?
Yes, but still, would you use a corpse as a reference in a murder trial?
Voice of !WisdomHsuU (OP) replied with this 15 years ago, 48 seconds later, 28 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #159,039
Voice of !WisdomHsuU (OP) double-posted this 15 years ago, 46 seconds later, 28 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #159,041
Anonymous G replied with this 15 years ago, 16 seconds later, 29 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #159,042
swamplights !!V3J448+/B replied with this 15 years ago, 7 seconds later, 29 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #159,043
@159,036 (vocalon !!jdS+H4VgV)
The is an incredibly stupid comparison. He didn't draw any of the lolicon himself. You acted just like him!
The is an incredibly stupid comparison. He didn't draw any of the lolicon himself. You acted just like him!
vocalon !!jdS+H4VgV replied with this 15 years ago, 18 seconds later, 29 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #159,045
swamplights !!V3J448+/B replied with this 15 years ago, 19 seconds later, 29 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #159,046
Voice of !WisdomHsuU (OP) replied with this 15 years ago, 43 seconds later, 30 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #159,047
protip !!pMmAiEwOm replied with this 15 years ago, 2 minutes later, 33 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #159,049
vocalon !!jdS+H4VgV replied with this 15 years ago, 1 minute later, 34 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #159,050
Voice of !WisdomHsuU (OP) replied with this 15 years ago, 1 minute later, 35 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #159,052
Falco !PZmcClOUDk joined in and replied with this 15 years ago, 19 minutes later, 54 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #159,090
> Expect Psychopath
> Receev Psychopath
> Receev Psychopath
swamplights !!V3J448+/B replied with this 15 years ago, 16 minutes later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #159,125
Sign onto skype, Waltie boy.
Voice of !WisdomHsuU (OP) replied with this 15 years ago, 2 minutes later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #159,128
swamplights !!V3J448+/B replied with this 15 years ago, 6 minutes later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #159,137
Mariannae joined in and replied with this 15 years ago, 26 minutes later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #159,170
Uh, because it is? It's small children in porn. Just because they're cartoons doesn't make them not children.
swamplights !!V3J448+/B replied with this 15 years ago, 10 minutes later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #159,181
Anonymous K joined in and replied with this 15 years ago, 1 minute later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #159,183
Anonymous G replied with this 15 years ago, 2 minutes later, 2 hours after the original post[^] [v] #159,190
@159,181 (swamplights !!V3J448+/B)
And yet you make an issue out of cartoon characters being made to look more modern.
And yet you make an issue out of cartoon characters being made to look more modern.
swamplights !!V3J448+/B replied with this 15 years ago, 2 minutes later, 2 hours after the original post[^] [v] #159,196
Anonymous G replied with this 15 years ago, 2 minutes later, 2 hours after the original post[^] [v] #159,198
@previous (swamplights !!V3J448+/B)
It just seems a bit hypocritical to be fine with loli/shota, but perceive making cartoon characters look more modern as wrongly making them more sexual.
It just seems a bit hypocritical to be fine with loli/shota, but perceive making cartoon characters look more modern as wrongly making them more sexual.
Anonymous L joined in and replied with this 15 years ago, 2 minutes later, 2 hours after the original post[^] [v] #159,202
You can't have sex with cartoon characters because they don't have real vaginas.
Real vaginas are nice.
Real vaginas are nice.
swamplights !!V3J448+/B replied with this 15 years ago, 28 seconds later, 2 hours after the original post[^] [v] #159,204
@159,198 (G)
How is it hypocritical? Sexualized cartoon characters are directly marketed to children especially girls. Lolicon is something that adults look at in the privacy of their own homes. Also,I have never called for a ban on either of these things.
How is it hypocritical? Sexualized cartoon characters are directly marketed to children especially girls. Lolicon is something that adults look at in the privacy of their own homes. Also,I have never called for a ban on either of these things.
Anonymous G replied with this 15 years ago, 3 minutes later, 2 hours after the original post[^] [v] #159,211
@previous (swamplights !!V3J448+/B)
But if you don't care about lolicon existing, why do you care about cartoons being slightly modernised? Surely lolicon does far more to sexualise children?
But if you don't care about lolicon existing, why do you care about cartoons being slightly modernised? Surely lolicon does far more to sexualise children?
swamplights !!V3J448+/B replied with this 15 years ago, 1 minute later, 2 hours after the original post[^] [v] #159,217
Anonymous G replied with this 15 years ago, 1 minute later, 2 hours after the original post[^] [v] #159,222
@previous (swamplights !!V3J448+/B)
But overall, wouldn't it be far stronger in sexualising children then cartoons? Presumably, some of the people that look at lolicon are the kind who might act on their desires IRL.
But overall, wouldn't it be far stronger in sexualising children then cartoons? Presumably, some of the people that look at lolicon are the kind who might act on their desires IRL.
(Edited 39 seconds later.)
Anonymous L replied with this 15 years ago, 11 seconds later, 2 hours after the original post[^] [v] #159,223
@159,211 (G)
Actually, I understood the answer he already gave to this question. You also have either misunderstood his answer or have purposefully missed the point and have reworded his answers into questions that he wasn't answering.
F a i l t r o l l e i s f a i l
You're just not very good at this, bud. You're only slightly annoying, and very easy to pin down.
Actually, I understood the answer he already gave to this question. You also have either misunderstood his answer or have purposefully missed the point and have reworded his answers into questions that he wasn't answering.
F a i l t r o l l e i s f a i l
You're just not very good at this, bud. You're only slightly annoying, and very easy to pin down.
swamplights !!V3J448+/B replied with this 15 years ago, 59 seconds later, 2 hours after the original post[^] [v] #159,226
@159,222 (G)
No, because lolicon is not marketed to children. If they don't see it, how does it effect them?
No, because lolicon is not marketed to children. If they don't see it, how does it effect them?
Anonymous G replied with this 15 years ago, 21 seconds later, 2 hours after the original post[^] [v] #159,227
Anonymous L replied with this 15 years ago, 30 seconds later, 2 hours after the original post[^] [v] #159,229
@159,222 (G)
He's talking about the marketing of sexualized images TO children, not OF children to adults.
He's talking about the marketing of sexualized images TO children, not OF children to adults.
swamplights !!V3J448+/B replied with this 15 years ago, 22 seconds later, 2 hours after the original post[^] [v] #159,231
Anonymous G replied with this 15 years ago, 39 seconds later, 2 hours after the original post[^] [v] #159,232
@159,226 (swamplights !!V3J448+/B)
The kind of people it sexualises children to might try something IRL. They're the kind of people who don't need to see children being sexualised.
The kind of people it sexualises children to might try something IRL. They're the kind of people who don't need to see children being sexualised.
Anonymous L replied with this 15 years ago, 1 minute later, 2 hours after the original post[^] [v] #159,233
Anonymous G replied with this 15 years ago, 4 seconds later, 2 hours after the original post[^] [v] #159,234
swamplights !!V3J448+/B replied with this 15 years ago, 9 seconds later, 2 hours after the original post[^] [v] #159,235
@159,232 (G)
Then maybe we shouldn't have books or images of murder because it might incite someone to kill.
Then maybe we shouldn't have books or images of murder because it might incite someone to kill.
Voice of !WisdomHsuU (OP) replied with this 15 years ago, 16 seconds later, 2 hours after the original post[^] [v] #159,237
Anonymous G replied with this 15 years ago, 15 seconds later, 2 hours after the original post[^] [v] #159,238
swamplights !!V3J448+/B replied with this 15 years ago, 6 seconds later, 2 hours after the original post[^] [v] #159,239
Anonymous L replied with this 15 years ago, 1 minute later, 2 hours after the original post[^] [v] #159,241
@159,238 (G)
Right, but that has nothing to do with the sexualization of children's cartoons meant for children. There really is some pretty overt sexualization in those cartoons, and I think it sends an improper message to children.
Right, but that has nothing to do with the sexualization of children's cartoons meant for children. There really is some pretty overt sexualization in those cartoons, and I think it sends an improper message to children.
Voice of !WisdomHsuU (OP) replied with this 15 years ago, 39 seconds later, 2 hours after the original post[^] [v] #159,243
All these arguments against loli/shota are so close to the arguments against violent video games.
Anonymous G replied with this 15 years ago, 10 seconds later, 2 hours after the original post[^] [v] #159,244
@159,235 (swamplights !!V3J448+/B)
It's not really the same thing. Murder commited by many people for many reasons. Lolicon is actively sought out by people who are already paedophiles.
@159,237 (Voice of !WisdomHsuU)
it sexualises children, which would encourage them more.
It's not really the same thing. Murder commited by many people for many reasons. Lolicon is actively sought out by people who are already paedophiles.
@159,237 (Voice of !WisdomHsuU)
it sexualises children, which would encourage them more.
swamplights !!V3J448+/B replied with this 15 years ago, 29 seconds later, 2 hours after the original post[^] [v] #159,245
swamplights !!V3J448+/B double-posted this 15 years ago, 19 seconds later, 2 hours after the original post[^] [v] #159,247
Voice of !WisdomHsuU (OP) replied with this 15 years ago, 1 minute later, 2 hours after the original post[^] [v] #159,248
@159,244 (G)
Just like how violent video games encourage kids to shoot up schools? You know what? Lolicon and shotacon do far less damage to kids than violent video games.
Just like how violent video games encourage kids to shoot up schools? You know what? Lolicon and shotacon do far less damage to kids than violent video games.
Anonymous G replied with this 15 years ago, 27 seconds later, 2 hours after the original post[^] [v] #159,249
@159,243 (Voice of !WisdomHsuU)
Again, not the same thing. The kind of people who would snap just from playing a game are virtually non-existent. The kind of people who would be influenced to kill by a violent game are always fucked up in many other ways as well, there's a lot of other factors in play.
Again, not the same thing. The kind of people who would snap just from playing a game are virtually non-existent. The kind of people who would be influenced to kill by a violent game are always fucked up in many other ways as well, there's a lot of other factors in play.
swamplights !!V3J448+/B replied with this 15 years ago, 17 seconds later, 2 hours after the original post[^] [v] #159,251
swamplights !!V3J448+/B double-posted this 15 years ago, 25 seconds later, 2 hours after the original post[^] [v] #159,253
@159,248 (Voice of !WisdomHsuU)
I actually don't think that children should play violent video games.
I actually don't think that children should play violent video games.
Anonymous G replied with this 15 years ago, 48 seconds later, 2 hours after the original post[^] [v] #159,256
@159,245 (swamplights !!V3J448+/B)
Again, rape is mostly situational. Mostly they aren't planned out or an active desire.
@159,247 (swamplights !!V3J448+/B)
It's a sound enough statement. I would ask for proof against it.
Again, rape is mostly situational. Mostly they aren't planned out or an active desire.
@159,247 (swamplights !!V3J448+/B)
It's a sound enough statement. I would ask for proof against it.
Anonymous L replied with this 15 years ago, 25 seconds later, 2 hours after the original post[^] [v] #159,257
@159,243 (Voice of !WisdomHsuU)
But people might actually have a point about the issue of desensitization. Maybe GTA won't make you beat hookers with a bat, but maybe it has some influence on peoples ability to empathize properly, making for a colder and less caring individual.
These days we do tend to be more self interested and opinionated assholes, and that could come from generations being raised on TV, vidya and motherfucking lolicon and shit.
But people might actually have a point about the issue of desensitization. Maybe GTA won't make you beat hookers with a bat, but maybe it has some influence on peoples ability to empathize properly, making for a colder and less caring individual.
These days we do tend to be more self interested and opinionated assholes, and that could come from generations being raised on TV, vidya and motherfucking lolicon and shit.
Voice of !WisdomHsuU (OP) replied with this 15 years ago, 24 seconds later, 2 hours after the original post[^] [v] #159,259
@159,249 (G)
And the kind of people that are willing to risk their lives by molesting children are also very rare, and are likely to not be influenced by loli/shota.
And the kind of people that are willing to risk their lives by molesting children are also very rare, and are likely to not be influenced by loli/shota.
swamplights !!V3J448+/B replied with this 15 years ago, 18 seconds later, 2 hours after the original post[^] [v] #159,260
@159,256 (G)
You can't make a claim without proof and ask other people to prove you wrong. It doesn't work that way. How do you know that most rapes are situational?
You can't make a claim without proof and ask other people to prove you wrong. It doesn't work that way. How do you know that most rapes are situational?
Voice of !WisdomHsuU (OP) replied with this 15 years ago, 1 minute later, 2 hours after the original post[^] [v] #159,261
@159,257 (L)
People need to be desensitized so that when something goes wrong it won't be as bad for them. Why is it a bad thing that people are more self-interested? Perhaps this could lead to a rise in libertarian thought.
People need to be desensitized so that when something goes wrong it won't be as bad for them. Why is it a bad thing that people are more self-interested? Perhaps this could lead to a rise in libertarian thought.
Anonymous G replied with this 15 years ago, 44 seconds later, 2 hours after the original post[^] [v] #159,262
@159,251 (swamplights !!V3J448+/B)
Look at all of the examples cited by the media. The kid who went on a shooting spree because of manhunt (an angle that was strongly pushed by Fox news, to seem more important than it was) could hardly be described as normal. He was extremely anti-social and angry. He was a very special case.
@159,253 (swamplights !!V3J448+/B)
I sort of agree with you. I think that the rating system on games should always be kept in mind.
Look at all of the examples cited by the media. The kid who went on a shooting spree because of manhunt (an angle that was strongly pushed by Fox news, to seem more important than it was) could hardly be described as normal. He was extremely anti-social and angry. He was a very special case.
@159,253 (swamplights !!V3J448+/B)
I sort of agree with you. I think that the rating system on games should always be kept in mind.
swamplights !!V3J448+/B replied with this 15 years ago, 51 seconds later, 2 hours after the original post[^] [v] #159,263
swamplights !!V3J448+/B double-posted this 15 years ago, 26 seconds later, 2 hours after the original post[^] [v] #159,264
Anonymous G replied with this 15 years ago, 1 minute later, 2 hours after the original post[^] [v] #159,265
@159,259 (Voice of !WisdomHsuU)
Maybe. If the internet's taught me anything, though, it's that paedophilia is disturbingly widespread. Lolicon could encourage these sorts of people.
@159,260 (swamplights !!V3J448+/B)
Do you think that organised raping is more common than spur-of-the-moment rapes?
Maybe. If the internet's taught me anything, though, it's that paedophilia is disturbingly widespread. Lolicon could encourage these sorts of people.
@159,260 (swamplights !!V3J448+/B)
Do you think that organised raping is more common than spur-of-the-moment rapes?
swamplights !!V3J448+/B replied with this 15 years ago, 1 minute later, 2 hours after the original post[^] [v] #159,267
@previous (G)
I have no idea. But I'm not making claims without any research. Also, most rapists are repeat offenders. Is it spur of the moment every time that it happens?
I have no idea. But I'm not making claims without any research. Also, most rapists are repeat offenders. Is it spur of the moment every time that it happens?
Anonymous F replied with this 15 years ago, 1 minute later, 2 hours after the original post[^] [v] #159,270
Anonymous G replied with this 15 years ago, 12 seconds later, 2 hours after the original post[^] [v] #159,272
@159,264 (swamplights !!V3J448+/B)
You hadn't posted your first asking of that yet from my point of view yet.
@159,263 (swamplights !!V3J448+/B)
Can you cite any cases or studies that have video games as a major contributing factor in a crime? From all of the cases I've seen, they've had little influence, and the person that did it was very fucked up anyway.
You hadn't posted your first asking of that yet from my point of view yet.
@159,263 (swamplights !!V3J448+/B)
Can you cite any cases or studies that have video games as a major contributing factor in a crime? From all of the cases I've seen, they've had little influence, and the person that did it was very fucked up anyway.
swamplights !!V3J448+/B replied with this 15 years ago, 52 seconds later, 2 hours after the original post[^] [v] #159,274
@previous (G)
I didn't understand that first part. No, but I would never want arrest people for having violent video games.
I didn't understand that first part. No, but I would never want arrest people for having violent video games.
Ks !KansasxqvM replied with this 15 years ago, 55 seconds later, 2 hours after the original post[^] [v] #159,275
Enjoy looking at small naked children.
Claim not to be pedophile.
lolno.
Claim not to be pedophile.
lolno.
Anonymous G replied with this 15 years ago, 51 seconds later, 2 hours after the original post[^] [v] #159,276
@159,267 (swamplights !!V3J448+/B)
Maybe, in a sense. I'd guess that that's the only way they know how to get sex?
@159,270 (F)
Technically yes, because they'd take the materials needed to do it before going to the location.
Maybe, in a sense. I'd guess that that's the only way they know how to get sex?
@159,270 (F)
Technically yes, because they'd take the materials needed to do it before going to the location.
Anonymous L replied with this 15 years ago, 33 seconds later, 2 hours after the original post[^] [v] #159,279
@159,261 (Voice of !WisdomHsuU)
Of course! Claim that desensitization doesn't occur, then when it might occur you just claim that it's beneficial! Of course, how stupid of me! I forgot, you can't ever admit that you don't know everything!
Of course! Claim that desensitization doesn't occur, then when it might occur you just claim that it's beneficial! Of course, how stupid of me! I forgot, you can't ever admit that you don't know everything!
swamplights !!V3J448+/B replied with this 15 years ago, 12 seconds later, 2 hours after the original post[^] [v] #159,280
swamplights !!V3J448+/B double-posted this 15 years ago, 43 seconds later, 2 hours after the original post[^] [v] #159,281
swamplights !!V3J448+/B triple-posted this 15 years ago, 33 seconds later, 2 hours after the original post[^] [v] #159,282
Anonymous G replied with this 15 years ago, 1 minute later, 2 hours after the original post[^] [v] #159,283
@159,274 (swamplights !!V3J448+/B)
You asked me how I knew that most rapes were situational twice. I just wanted to clarify that I wasn't avoiding the question.
I never said that you would. That would obviously be bad.
You asked me how I knew that most rapes were situational twice. I just wanted to clarify that I wasn't avoiding the question.
I never said that you would. That would obviously be bad.
Anonymous G double-posted this 15 years ago, 2 minutes later, 2 hours after the original post[^] [v] #159,286
@159,282 (swamplights !!V3J448+/B)
You're putting words in my mouth. I was saying that some rapists re-offend because, for some of them, it's the main thrill that they get. Of course some men who rape could also get sex normally.
@159,280 (swamplights !!V3J448+/B)
I was saying that it doesn't make it spur of the moment.
You're putting words in my mouth. I was saying that some rapists re-offend because, for some of them, it's the main thrill that they get. Of course some men who rape could also get sex normally.
@159,280 (swamplights !!V3J448+/B)
I was saying that it doesn't make it spur of the moment.
swamplights !!V3J448+/B replied with this 15 years ago, 59 seconds later, 2 hours after the original post[^] [v] #159,288
@159,283 (G)
But you would probably want to arrest people with lolicon. People who play violent video games are not arrested for murder because no one is actually getting hurt. It should be the same with lolicon.
But you would probably want to arrest people with lolicon. People who play violent video games are not arrested for murder because no one is actually getting hurt. It should be the same with lolicon.
swamplights !!V3J448+/B double-posted this 15 years ago, 37 seconds later, 2 hours after the original post[^] [v] #159,290
Voice of !WisdomHsuU (OP) replied with this 15 years ago, 2 minutes later, 2 hours after the original post[^] [v] #159,296
Anonymous G replied with this 15 years ago, 2 minutes later, 2 hours after the original post[^] [v] #159,301
swamplights !!V3J448+/B replied with this 15 years ago, 1 minute later, 2 hours after the original post[^] [v] #159,304
Anonymous L replied with this 15 years ago, 2 minutes later, 2 hours after the original post[^] [v] #159,308
@159,296 (Voice of !WisdomHsuU)
The human race and our civilization are based upon the concept of empathy. There's a reason sociopaths are not neurotypical. Lessening our sensitivity to social emotions and the feelings of others is a really, really bad idea for our species.
I know you'd like it you racist cunt but no one else will.
The human race and our civilization are based upon the concept of empathy. There's a reason sociopaths are not neurotypical. Lessening our sensitivity to social emotions and the feelings of others is a really, really bad idea for our species.
I know you'd like it you racist cunt but no one else will.
Anonymous G replied with this 15 years ago, 1 minute later, 2 hours after the original post[^] [v] #159,310
@159,304 (swamplights !!V3J448+/B)
Rape that isn't extensively planned beforehand. To be honest I don't even remember how we got on to rape. Arguing semantics takes you to weird places.
Are you proud that you just won an argument over the internet and completely changed someone's view on something? That's never happened in the entire history of minichan.
Rape that isn't extensively planned beforehand. To be honest I don't even remember how we got on to rape. Arguing semantics takes you to weird places.
Are you proud that you just won an argument over the internet and completely changed someone's view on something? That's never happened in the entire history of minichan.
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swamplights !!V3J448+/B replied with this 15 years ago, 28 seconds later, 2 hours after the original post[^] [v] #159,311
Anonymous G replied with this 15 years ago, 1 minute later, 2 hours after the original post[^] [v] #159,313
@159,310 (G)
I'm joking of course, I still disapprove of it. But I will concede that you have a valid point.
I'm joking of course, I still disapprove of it. But I will concede that you have a valid point.
Voice of !WisdomHsuU (OP) replied with this 15 years ago, 1 minute later, 2 hours after the original post[^] [v] #159,317
@159,308 (L)
> human race
Stop.
> our civilization are based upon the concept of empathy
Maybe this civilization, but this current civilization is rather ass-backwards.
> human race
Stop.
> our civilization are based upon the concept of empathy
Maybe this civilization, but this current civilization is rather ass-backwards.
swamplights !!V3J448+/B replied with this 15 years ago, 2 seconds later, 2 hours after the original post[^] [v] #159,318
@159,313 (G)
I know that it's a valid point. It's not like I enjoy loilcon, but it shouldn't be illegal.
I know that it's a valid point. It's not like I enjoy loilcon, but it shouldn't be illegal.
Anonymous G replied with this 15 years ago, 3 minutes later, 3 hours after the original post[^] [v] #159,320
@previous (swamplights !!V3J448+/B)
I think it works quite well as it is. While it is illegal, we all know that people can easily get it, usually without consequence. As it is, it's contained to a small, insular demographic. If it were legalised then it could become an actual problem to society at large.
I think it works quite well as it is. While it is illegal, we all know that people can easily get it, usually without consequence. As it is, it's contained to a small, insular demographic. If it were legalised then it could become an actual problem to society at large.
swamplights !!V3J448+/B replied with this 15 years ago, 1 minute later, 3 hours after the original post[^] [v] #159,322
Anonymous G replied with this 15 years ago, 2 minutes later, 3 hours after the original post[^] [v] #159,324
@previous (swamplights !!V3J448+/B)
It would sexualise children, which we both agree is bad, and would be more in the public eye than it is now. Again, if people want it then they can easily get it, so it's not like they're being too hurt by its legal status.
It would sexualise children, which we both agree is bad, and would be more in the public eye than it is now. Again, if people want it then they can easily get it, so it's not like they're being too hurt by its legal status.
swamplights !!V3J448+/B replied with this 15 years ago, 1 minute later, 3 hours after the original post[^] [v] #159,326
@previous (G)
It would be as much in the public eye as hard core pornography is.
It would be as much in the public eye as hard core pornography is.
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Voice of !WisdomHsuU (OP) replied with this 15 years ago, 24 seconds later, 3 hours after the original post[^] [v] #159,327
Anonymous G replied with this 15 years ago, 4 minutes later, 3 hours after the original post[^] [v] #159,333
@159,326 (swamplights !!V3J448+/B)
Oh no, we're slipping into semantics again.
Its link to paedophila means that it's more frowned upon, though. People would throw a shitstorm if it was completely legalised. As it is, nobody is really hurt by it anyway, and the people that want it are kept nice and out of the public mind and eye.
@previous (Voice of !WisdomHsuU)
So could you walk into a shop and buy some?
The exact details likely vary from state to state.
Oh no, we're slipping into semantics again.
Its link to paedophila means that it's more frowned upon, though. People would throw a shitstorm if it was completely legalised. As it is, nobody is really hurt by it anyway, and the people that want it are kept nice and out of the public mind and eye.
@previous (Voice of !WisdomHsuU)
So could you walk into a shop and buy some?
The exact details likely vary from state to state.
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protip !!pMmAiEwOm replied with this 15 years ago, 34 seconds later, 3 hours after the original post[^] [v] #159,335
Professor Paradox !VdFcNDvGno joined in and replied with this 15 years ago, 4 minutes later, 3 hours after the original post[^] [v] #159,340
@159,324 (G)
> It would sexualise children, which we both agree is bad
What exactly is wrong/bad with sexualizing children?
> It would sexualise children, which we both agree is bad
What exactly is wrong/bad with sexualizing children?
Anonymous G replied with this 15 years ago, 1 minute later, 3 hours after the original post[^] [v] #159,342
@previous (Professor Paradox !VdFcNDvGno)
Since you're here, I have a question for you. Why do you never post in the threads that you make?
Since you're here, I have a question for you. Why do you never post in the threads that you make?
!JuMPb0dbaE joined in and replied with this 15 years ago, 28 minutes later, 3 hours after the original post[^] [v] #159,371
Studies show that porn gives an outlet that reduces rates of sexual assault.
Restricting even simulated cp is just policing thought. "we don't like it, so we will lock you up for it."
That attitude causes children to be raped or assaulted.
Look at Japan. They have less rapes per capita than the US.
Once it becomes more cost efficient to make realistic computer animated CP, it should be allowed. The only arguments against amount to "I dont like it."
Well, no one is saying you have to. You can force your morals on others. It's harming literally no one. It doesn't encourage pedophilia. It presents an outlet. Studies do not back up any of the "it will lead to rape."
Keep making harsher laws against the minority. Megan's Law was such a success. Recidivism wasn't slowed, but it did make it next to impossible for child sex offenders to re-enter society. Many end up homeless, making it even harder to track them. Who does it help? Let's see... Recidivism not down, child rapists harder to track... I guess it helps people feel safer without actually being safer. Oh well, no reason to re-examine it.
Its ridiculous to pretend sexual arousal isn't something that can overtake self control. I'm sure anyone wOuld buckle under the right set of circumstances. It happens. People lose ccontrol.
We need to stop judging others for being different. We all need to re-examine our feelings on many different aspects of society.
There are people who believe that weed is evil and causes people to become out of control criminals. Don't pretend you are "right" because the majority feel the way you do.
You are mostly haters who want to police morality. You are freedom hating terrorists. You threaten to lock people away and put them on a list and restrict where they are allowed to live because of some cartoons you looked at.
Lolicon isn't even illegal in the US. The supreme court ruled that it's unconstitutional. So what do prosecutors do? They charge people for obscenity. That thing you are doing in the privacy of your home is obscene. It's jail for you!
You people make me sick. You are terrified, pathetic excuses for humans beings.
The rapes of some children are partially your fault. You personally. You create an atmosphere where people need to live in the shadows.
Imagine if you were made to feel guilty and wrong everytime you had a sexual fantasy. Everytime. You can't control it. It's a situation that makes it easier for someone to slip up. Humans aren't really rational creatures. High stress situations make poeple less able to cope. Do the math, antis. Do the math.
Restricting even simulated cp is just policing thought. "we don't like it, so we will lock you up for it."
That attitude causes children to be raped or assaulted.
Look at Japan. They have less rapes per capita than the US.
Once it becomes more cost efficient to make realistic computer animated CP, it should be allowed. The only arguments against amount to "I dont like it."
Well, no one is saying you have to. You can force your morals on others. It's harming literally no one. It doesn't encourage pedophilia. It presents an outlet. Studies do not back up any of the "it will lead to rape."
Keep making harsher laws against the minority. Megan's Law was such a success. Recidivism wasn't slowed, but it did make it next to impossible for child sex offenders to re-enter society. Many end up homeless, making it even harder to track them. Who does it help? Let's see... Recidivism not down, child rapists harder to track... I guess it helps people feel safer without actually being safer. Oh well, no reason to re-examine it.
Its ridiculous to pretend sexual arousal isn't something that can overtake self control. I'm sure anyone wOuld buckle under the right set of circumstances. It happens. People lose ccontrol.
We need to stop judging others for being different. We all need to re-examine our feelings on many different aspects of society.
There are people who believe that weed is evil and causes people to become out of control criminals. Don't pretend you are "right" because the majority feel the way you do.
You are mostly haters who want to police morality. You are freedom hating terrorists. You threaten to lock people away and put them on a list and restrict where they are allowed to live because of some cartoons you looked at.
Lolicon isn't even illegal in the US. The supreme court ruled that it's unconstitutional. So what do prosecutors do? They charge people for obscenity. That thing you are doing in the privacy of your home is obscene. It's jail for you!
You people make me sick. You are terrified, pathetic excuses for humans beings.
The rapes of some children are partially your fault. You personally. You create an atmosphere where people need to live in the shadows.
Imagine if you were made to feel guilty and wrong everytime you had a sexual fantasy. Everytime. You can't control it. It's a situation that makes it easier for someone to slip up. Humans aren't really rational creatures. High stress situations make poeple less able to cope. Do the math, antis. Do the math.
Nega !34Kas0OdzM joined in and replied with this 15 years ago, 1 minute later, 3 hours after the original post[^] [v] #159,373
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Professor Paradox !VdFcNDvGno replied with this 15 years ago, 17 minutes later, 4 hours after the original post[^] [v] #159,394
@159,371 (!JuMPb0dbaE)
What about lucid dreaming? Couldn't pedophiles use lucid dreaming to live out their fantasies?
What about lucid dreaming? Couldn't pedophiles use lucid dreaming to live out their fantasies?
!JuMPb0dbaE replied with this 15 years ago, 1 hour later, 5 hours after the original post[^] [v] #159,444
@previous (Professor Paradox !VdFcNDvGno)
Not everyone can do it. It doesn't actually satisfy sexual urges. At least, Ive never came in dream or out. It's unreliable. Also, most antidepressants that decrease sex drive also limit ability to lucid dream by either limiting REM sleep or some other way (anecdotal, but I've read others experiencing a similar experience).
So, no.
Not everyone can do it. It doesn't actually satisfy sexual urges. At least, Ive never came in dream or out. It's unreliable. Also, most antidepressants that decrease sex drive also limit ability to lucid dream by either limiting REM sleep or some other way (anecdotal, but I've read others experiencing a similar experience).
So, no.