Topic: Why such hatred for immigrants, especially asylum seekers?
Anonymous A started this discussion 6 years ago #88,951
Syntax joined in and replied with this 6 years ago, 3 minutes later[^] [v] #1,016,661
The sweeping change drew an immediate threat of a legal fight.
“This rule is inconsistent with both domestic and international law, and we intend to sue immediately to block it,” Lee Gelernt, deputy director of the ACLU’s national Immigrants’ Rights Project, said.
Trump is losing so many fights in courts Not all but MOST
Doubt he will do well with his new rule.
“This rule is inconsistent with both domestic and international law, and we intend to sue immediately to block it,” Lee Gelernt, deputy director of the ACLU’s national Immigrants’ Rights Project, said.
Trump is losing so many fights in courts Not all but MOST
Doubt he will do well with his new rule.
Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 6 years ago, 1 minute later, 5 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #1,016,663
@previous (Syntax)
And what if he wins? It terrifies me to have a president who wants to prevent, for example, a mother and her child fleeing a war zone, from getting asylum. Why does he hate non-white people so much?
And what if he wins? It terrifies me to have a president who wants to prevent, for example, a mother and her child fleeing a war zone, from getting asylum. Why does he hate non-white people so much?
Syntax replied with this 6 years ago, 4 minutes later, 10 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #1,016,665
@previous (A)
Works for his base. You will notice he is stepping all of this hate shit up because it feeds his base. It ain't stupid - The only good news is that he is behind in ever single poll that exists including his love for the Fox News poll LoL
A look at ever single swing state that he won - He is down for the count in each of those states without exception - In fact I cannot find one state where he is even with his 2016 numbers.
But bottom line is that he has the same support he had in 2016 and that holds firm. He needs to keep them and his hate stuff works for that base.
Works for his base. You will notice he is stepping all of this hate shit up because it feeds his base. It ain't stupid - The only good news is that he is behind in ever single poll that exists including his love for the Fox News poll LoL
A look at ever single swing state that he won - He is down for the count in each of those states without exception - In fact I cannot find one state where he is even with his 2016 numbers.
But bottom line is that he has the same support he had in 2016 and that holds firm. He needs to keep them and his hate stuff works for that base.
Anonymous C joined in and replied with this 6 years ago, 21 minutes later, 31 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #1,016,670
@1,016,663 (A)
Seeking asylum is fine, you just have to do it in the first safe country you enter. Also, you have to actually use a port of entry.
It's just a way to stop illegal immigrants from abusing the asylum system.
Mexico isn't a war zone, so, no asylum seekers from there. Quite simple really and it means actual asylum seekers can helped.
Seeking asylum is fine, you just have to do it in the first safe country you enter. Also, you have to actually use a port of entry.
It's just a way to stop illegal immigrants from abusing the asylum system.
Mexico isn't a war zone, so, no asylum seekers from there. Quite simple really and it means actual asylum seekers can helped.
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@1,016,672 (C)
Last post of evening - Polls turned out to be very very accurate - Polls said Clinton wood won and she sure did in the Popular Vote by Millions.
Polls were even accurate within the margin of error on the swing states and only one of the 50 states was off in the polls. In one swing state TRUMP won that by +.2%
So this time around I will only pay attention to polls where Trump is behind THE Margin of Error and the Dem is Above the Margin of Error
So let me leave you with this re 2016
https://www.washingtonpost.com/graphics/politics/2016-election/swing-state-margins/
And I will pick one of the BIG ONES - Becky should enjoy this - So Trump won real big in Ohio - Got that?
Now how does Trump stand in Ohio today with 902 days or so in office?
Since Trump took office, his net approval in
Ohio has decreased by 20 percentage points.
OK time for one more and then G'D nite - Need sleep cause Comic Con cuming UP UP
Texas was the OTHER State Trump Won Big and NOW?
Since Trump took office, his net approval in Texas has decreased by 16 percentage points.
So pick another state any state and do your own research on how Trump is doing - Odd thing is - So far with really good sources I cannot find a State where TRUMP is as popular as he was at election time 2016
But hey you may have more accurate sources? Me I found one that is rated real HIGH and Real Accurate but perhaps you can find something more better so good hunting
Hint - 1000 People
https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/howcan-a-poll-of-only-100/
3% Is the operative number OK - So Me? Well clearly I ain't paying attention unless that margin is Exceeded!!
Last post of evening - Polls turned out to be very very accurate - Polls said Clinton wood won and she sure did in the Popular Vote by Millions.
Polls were even accurate within the margin of error on the swing states and only one of the 50 states was off in the polls. In one swing state TRUMP won that by +.2%
So this time around I will only pay attention to polls where Trump is behind THE Margin of Error and the Dem is Above the Margin of Error
So let me leave you with this re 2016
https://www.washingtonpost.com/graphics/politics/2016-election/swing-state-margins/
And I will pick one of the BIG ONES - Becky should enjoy this - So Trump won real big in Ohio - Got that?
Now how does Trump stand in Ohio today with 902 days or so in office?
Since Trump took office, his net approval in
Ohio has decreased by 20 percentage points.
OK time for one more and then G'D nite - Need sleep cause Comic Con cuming UP UP
Texas was the OTHER State Trump Won Big and NOW?
Since Trump took office, his net approval in Texas has decreased by 16 percentage points.
So pick another state any state and do your own research on how Trump is doing - Odd thing is - So far with really good sources I cannot find a State where TRUMP is as popular as he was at election time 2016
But hey you may have more accurate sources? Me I found one that is rated real HIGH and Real Accurate but perhaps you can find something more better so good hunting
Hint - 1000 People
https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/howcan-a-poll-of-only-100/
3% Is the operative number OK - So Me? Well clearly I ain't paying attention unless that margin is Exceeded!!
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@previous (Bilbo !RwordOooFE)
We need to build a wall with Mexico because criminal gangs are running the government which is totally corrupt. Also, people fleeing gang violence should feel totally safe in Mexico. If you don't agree with both of these things at the same time, you are literally a communist.
We need to build a wall with Mexico because criminal gangs are running the government which is totally corrupt. Also, people fleeing gang violence should feel totally safe in Mexico. If you don't agree with both of these things at the same time, you are literally a communist.
Anonymous C replied with this 6 years ago, 19 minutes later, 12 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,016,859
@1,016,850 (Bilbo !RwordOooFE)
Maybe the asylum seekers should stay away from the drug growing regions. And stay away from too much sugar, just in case there is a war on diabetes. And be careful around gym equipment too, maybe they are fleeing the war on heart disease.
@previous (Fake anon !ZkUt8arUCU)
All of Mexico isn't one big border town with all the problems that come with it. What a simplistic view you have of the underclass of poor brown people who clean your toilets.
Maybe the asylum seekers should stay away from the drug growing regions. And stay away from too much sugar, just in case there is a war on diabetes. And be careful around gym equipment too, maybe they are fleeing the war on heart disease.
@previous (Fake anon !ZkUt8arUCU)
All of Mexico isn't one big border town with all the problems that come with it. What a simplistic view you have of the underclass of poor brown people who clean your toilets.
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as a matter of fact, everything must be like America
Anonymous C replied with this 6 years ago, 6 minutes later, 12 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,016,865
@1,016,812 (Kook !!rcSrAtaAC)
It's only controversial to insane people with Trump Derangement Syndrome. Everyone else can see the common sense in closing a loophole being abused. If you are fleeing a war zone and seeking asylum, seek it in the first safe place. It's no longer one of the things people traffickers can coach economic migrants to claim.
"Just bring a kid with you" and "claim asylum" aren't working so well anymore because it's being abused
It's only controversial to insane people with Trump Derangement Syndrome. Everyone else can see the common sense in closing a loophole being abused. If you are fleeing a war zone and seeking asylum, seek it in the first safe place. It's no longer one of the things people traffickers can coach economic migrants to claim.
"Just bring a kid with you" and "claim asylum" aren't working so well anymore because it's being abused
Fake anon !ZkUt8arUCU replied with this 6 years ago, 42 seconds later, 12 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,016,866
@1,016,859 (C)
I'm not the one who thinks that Mexico is deliberately sending criminals to flood the United States but keep going bud, you'll make a good point eventually. I believe in you.
I'm not the one who thinks that Mexico is deliberately sending criminals to flood the United States but keep going bud, you'll make a good point eventually. I believe in you.
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@previous (Fake anon !ZkUt8arUCU)
I voted for your mother. I think she would be a fine 1st Jewish President.
I voted for your mother. I think she would be a fine 1st Jewish President.
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@1,016,844 (Syntax)
> https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/howcan-a-poll-of-only-100/
Because everything you read on the internet is true...
> https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/howcan-a-poll-of-only-100/
Because everything you read on the internet is true...
Syntax replied with this 6 years ago, 1 hour later, 21 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,017,064
@previous (E)
https://www.cnn.com/2018/11/19/politics/2018-midterm-elections-good-year-polls/index.html
2018 was a very good year for polls
(CNN)Before the 2018 election, I said the best way to push back against those who call polls "fake news" was for the polls to predict the election results.
It turns out public polling passed this test with flying colors. Nonpartisan polls taken within three weeks of the 2018 election were far more accurate than the average poll since 1998.
The biggest test of 2018 was the battle for control of the House. There are two different ways to poll House races.
The most familiar is the generic congressional ballot, which usually asks voters to say whether they will vote for the Democratic or Republican candidates in their districts. From 1998 to 2016, the difference between the average generic ballot poll and the House national vote was 3.8 points. This year (with some votes still to be counted) it looks like it's going to be only 2.8 points, which is a full point closer to the result than the average.
The other way to poll House races is by individual district. Those polls fared just as well. Nonpartisan House polls have historically missed the mark by an average of 5.9 points. This year it was just 4.9 points. Again, that means the average district poll was a full point closer to the result than usual.
hat increase in accuracy was driven in large part by the Siena College/New York Times polls, whose surveys made up the bulk of district level polling and had an average absolute error of just about 3 points. That's nearly 3 points better than average, which is off the charts good.
Statewide polling also had a strong year, although it should be noted that Senate and governors' polling did pick fewer winners than usual.
The average poll in the Senate was off by only 4.2 points. The average Senate poll historically has been off by 5.2 points, which means this year's polls were a point better than average. Likewise, the average governor's poll had an error rate of 4.4 points. That's 0.7 point more accurate than the average governor's poll since 1998.
But there were also a number of cases where the polling had one candidate winning but the other candidate won the election. This year nonpartisan Senate polls called the correct winner 77% of the time, compared with 84% historically. Governor polls saw a nearly identical 76% of races called correctly, compared with 84% historically.
Goes on and on and On - BOTTOM LINE - Polls were correct in 2016 and even more correct in 2018 - Unless you think the Republicans won the House lol
https://www.cnn.com/2018/11/19/politics/2018-midterm-elections-good-year-polls/index.html
2018 was a very good year for polls
(CNN)Before the 2018 election, I said the best way to push back against those who call polls "fake news" was for the polls to predict the election results.
It turns out public polling passed this test with flying colors. Nonpartisan polls taken within three weeks of the 2018 election were far more accurate than the average poll since 1998.
The biggest test of 2018 was the battle for control of the House. There are two different ways to poll House races.
The most familiar is the generic congressional ballot, which usually asks voters to say whether they will vote for the Democratic or Republican candidates in their districts. From 1998 to 2016, the difference between the average generic ballot poll and the House national vote was 3.8 points. This year (with some votes still to be counted) it looks like it's going to be only 2.8 points, which is a full point closer to the result than the average.
The other way to poll House races is by individual district. Those polls fared just as well. Nonpartisan House polls have historically missed the mark by an average of 5.9 points. This year it was just 4.9 points. Again, that means the average district poll was a full point closer to the result than usual.
hat increase in accuracy was driven in large part by the Siena College/New York Times polls, whose surveys made up the bulk of district level polling and had an average absolute error of just about 3 points. That's nearly 3 points better than average, which is off the charts good.
Statewide polling also had a strong year, although it should be noted that Senate and governors' polling did pick fewer winners than usual.
The average poll in the Senate was off by only 4.2 points. The average Senate poll historically has been off by 5.2 points, which means this year's polls were a point better than average. Likewise, the average governor's poll had an error rate of 4.4 points. That's 0.7 point more accurate than the average governor's poll since 1998.
But there were also a number of cases where the polling had one candidate winning but the other candidate won the election. This year nonpartisan Senate polls called the correct winner 77% of the time, compared with 84% historically. Governor polls saw a nearly identical 76% of races called correctly, compared with 84% historically.
Goes on and on and On - BOTTOM LINE - Polls were correct in 2016 and even more correct in 2018 - Unless you think the Republicans won the House lol
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@1,017,066 (E)
You obviously know nothing about statistical science. Get hat GED and then we’ll talk. Thanks.
You obviously know nothing about statistical science. Get hat GED and then we’ll talk. Thanks.
Anonymous E replied with this 6 years ago, 1 hour later, 22 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,017,094
@previous (L)
> Get hat GED and then we'll talk.
> Get hat GED
> hat
I think the word you are looking for is "that".
Get your spelling education, and we'll go from there. Thanks.
> Get hat GED and then we'll talk.
> Get hat GED
> hat
I think the word you are looking for is "that".
Get your spelling education, and we'll go from there. Thanks.
Anonymous M joined in and replied with this 6 years ago, 2 hours later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #1,017,132
@1,017,064 (Syntax)
Wow you are retarded. Are CNN polls specifically aimed at elderly Yahtzee players?
Wow you are retarded. Are CNN polls specifically aimed at elderly Yahtzee players?