Topic: How exactly are Trump's statements racist?
Anonymous A started this discussion 6 years ago #88,878
Bert joined in and replied with this 6 years ago, 1 minute later[^] [v] #1,015,998
Telling brown people, who are natural born Americans, to return to their crappy countries, and only telling brown people? Gee.
tteh !GETFUCKED joined in and replied with this 6 years ago, 5 minutes later, 6 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #1,016,001
I'm not racist but can these minorities I dislike fuck off to where they "came from"? Thanks.
Anonymous D joined in and replied with this 6 years ago, 2 minutes later, 8 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #1,016,004
Sheila LaBoof joined in and replied with this 6 years ago, 26 minutes later, 35 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #1,016,024
Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 6 years ago, 18 minutes later, 53 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #1,016,049
@previous (Sheila LaBoof)
Hey, I didn't make the video, I'm just sharing it here to get a feel for what people think of it. Why so rude?
Hey, I didn't make the video, I'm just sharing it here to get a feel for what people think of it. Why so rude?
Anonymous F joined in and replied with this 6 years ago, 2 hours later, 3 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,016,134
He did NOT say for them to go back to their country.
Autist !StaYqkzUPc joined in and replied with this 6 years ago, 3 minutes later, 3 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,016,140
Trump is his own special orange race.
Ananthanarayanan M R joined in and replied with this 6 years ago, 4 minutes later, 3 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,016,146
@1,016,134 (F)
No he said for them to go back to the totally broken and crime infested places from which they came.
No he said for them to go back to the totally broken and crime infested places from which they came.
Anonymous F replied with this 6 years ago, 4 minutes later, 3 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,016,147
Meta !Sober//iZs joined in and replied with this 6 years ago, 1 hour later, 4 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,016,167
@1,015,998 (Bert)
> crappy countries
I'm confused: are countries like Haiti and Somalia wonderful countries and therefore Trump was wrong for calling them "shithole countries", or is it a humanitarian crisis not to let immigrants from those countries into America, because conditions there are so bad??? ?
> crappy countries
I'm confused: are countries like Haiti and Somalia wonderful countries and therefore Trump was wrong for calling them "shithole countries", or is it a humanitarian crisis not to let immigrants from those countries into America, because conditions there are so bad??? ?
tteh !GETFUCKED replied with this 6 years ago, 10 minutes later, 4 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,016,170
@previous (Meta !Sober//iZs)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Use-mention_distinction
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Use-mention_distinction
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Meta !Sober//iZs replied with this 6 years ago, 6 minutes later, 4 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,016,173
@previous (tteh !GETFUCKED)
I mean I see two contradictory statements:
1) Haiti, El Salvador, Somalia, etc, are not "shitholes" but actually wonderful places.
2) We have to let people from the above countries immigrate to America without limit, because conditions in those countries are so terrible.
I don't see how you can believe both at once.
I mean I see two contradictory statements:
1) Haiti, El Salvador, Somalia, etc, are not "shitholes" but actually wonderful places.
2) We have to let people from the above countries immigrate to America without limit, because conditions in those countries are so terrible.
I don't see how you can believe both at once.
Killer Lettuce? !HonkUK.BIE joined in and replied with this 6 years ago, 3 minutes later, 5 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,016,174
These statements were awful even by his standards. But he will get away with it as usual, and his legion of cronies and sympathetic media will bend over backwards to excuse it.
What a grand time we live in.
What a grand time we live in.
tteh !GETFUCKED replied with this 6 years ago, 25 minutes later, 5 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,016,178
@1,016,173 (Meta !Sober//iZs)
Nobody is suggesting either of those things. Perhaps #2 in some limited form, but I definitely not #1.
Sources for either, pls?
Nobody is suggesting either of those things. Perhaps #2 in some limited form, but I definitely not #1.
Sources for either, pls?
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Meta !Sober//iZs replied with this 6 years ago, 5 minutes later, 5 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,016,179
@1,016,174 (Killer Lettuce? !HonkUK.BIE)
I wouldn't quite say the media is sympathetic. Granted, there are some media outlets that have a pro-Trump and/or pro-Republican bias (these are things that often overlap but are not the same thing - for an example consider the National Review which has a pro-Republican but anti-Trump bias) but I would say the media is at least 2/3rds anti-Trump. Meaning not so much that the stories they have on him will be literally untrue, but rather that anything Trump says or does will consistently be presented in the worst possible light.
I wouldn't quite say the media is sympathetic. Granted, there are some media outlets that have a pro-Trump and/or pro-Republican bias (these are things that often overlap but are not the same thing - for an example consider the National Review which has a pro-Republican but anti-Trump bias) but I would say the media is at least 2/3rds anti-Trump. Meaning not so much that the stories they have on him will be literally untrue, but rather that anything Trump says or does will consistently be presented in the worst possible light.
tteh !GETFUCKED replied with this 6 years ago, 4 minutes later, 5 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,016,181
Anonymous K joined in and replied with this 6 years ago, 43 seconds later, 5 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,016,182
Why is nobody talking about how disgusting and racist those 4 democrats were being, in particular the one from shithole Somalia? Nobody ever quotes their antisemitic bilge.
Meta !Sober//iZs replied with this 6 years ago, 5 minutes later, 5 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,016,190
@previous (K)
Ilhan Omar did get a bit of negative press a while back when it was discovered that she had tweeted "Israel has hypnotized the world, may Allah awaken the people and help them see the evil doings of Israel #Gaza #Palestine #Israel" 7 years ago, before she got into politics. IIRC she ended up apologizing and deleted the tweet and now all is forgiven.
Ilhan Omar did get a bit of negative press a while back when it was discovered that she had tweeted "Israel has hypnotized the world, may Allah awaken the people and help them see the evil doings of Israel #Gaza #Palestine #Israel" 7 years ago, before she got into politics. IIRC she ended up apologizing and deleted the tweet and now all is forgiven.
Meta !Sober//iZs double-posted this 6 years ago, 2 minutes later, 5 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,016,191
@1,016,178 (tteh !GETFUCKED)
1: https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/posteverything/wp/2018/01/12/this-is-how-ignorant-you-have-to-be-to-call-haiti-a-shithole/?noredirect=on&utm_term=.e98bbacf00cf
2: https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/world/2018/10/15/six-countries-300-000-immigrants-must-return-end-tps/1112581002/
1: https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/posteverything/wp/2018/01/12/this-is-how-ignorant-you-have-to-be-to-call-haiti-a-shithole/?noredirect=on&utm_term=.e98bbacf00cf
2: https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/world/2018/10/15/six-countries-300-000-immigrants-must-return-end-tps/1112581002/
Anonymous L joined in and replied with this 6 years ago, 3 minutes later, 5 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,016,194
@1,016,174 (Killer Lettuce? !HonkUK.BIE)
> These statements were awful even by his standards. But he will get away with it as usual, and his legion of cronies and sympathetic media will bend over backwards to excuse it.
>
> What a grand time we live in.
Sympathetic media, huh?
> These statements were awful even by his standards. But he will get away with it as usual, and his legion of cronies and sympathetic media will bend over backwards to excuse it.
>
> What a grand time we live in.
Sympathetic media, huh?
Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 6 years ago, 47 minutes later, 6 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,016,204
@1,016,190 (Meta !Sober//iZs)
Not just 7 years ago - it was almost certainly her more recent remarks about AIPAC that angered Trump, culminating with "It's all about the Benjamins, baby" (i.e. the only Jewish motivation is money... which, though true I suppose, is not something you say if you are a representative). She hasn't just been upsetting the GOP - many senior Democrats were also annoyed with her, to the extent that they passed a resolution in March to condemn anti-Semitism. As a freshman she should know her place, shut up and learn how to behave.
Not just 7 years ago - it was almost certainly her more recent remarks about AIPAC that angered Trump, culminating with "It's all about the Benjamins, baby" (i.e. the only Jewish motivation is money... which, though true I suppose, is not something you say if you are a representative). She hasn't just been upsetting the GOP - many senior Democrats were also annoyed with her, to the extent that they passed a resolution in March to condemn anti-Semitism. As a freshman she should know her place, shut up and learn how to behave.
Anonymous L replied with this 6 years ago, 2 hours later, 8 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,016,226
Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 6 years ago, 30 minutes later, 9 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,016,234
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@1,016,190 (Meta !Sober//iZs)
> Ilhan Omar did get a bit of negative press a while back when it was discovered that she had tweeted "Israel has hypnotized the world, may Allah awaken the people and help them see the evil doings of Israel #Gaza #Palestine #Israel" 7 years ago, before she got into politics. IIRC she ended up apologizing and deleted the tweet and now all is forgiven.
but she's Right
> Ilhan Omar did get a bit of negative press a while back when it was discovered that she had tweeted "Israel has hypnotized the world, may Allah awaken the people and help them see the evil doings of Israel #Gaza #Palestine #Israel" 7 years ago, before she got into politics. IIRC she ended up apologizing and deleted the tweet and now all is forgiven.
but she's Right
Anonymous N joined in and replied with this 6 years ago, 1 hour later, 11 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,016,272
I thought it was funny that AOC pointed out that she came from NYC just like him.
Anonymous O joined in and replied with this 6 years ago, 9 minutes later, 11 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,016,276
@1,016,190 (Meta !Sober//iZs)
> Ilhan Omar did get a bit of negative press a while back when it was discovered that she had tweeted "Israel has hypnotized the world, may Allah awaken the people and help them see the evil doings of Israel #Gaza #Palestine #Israel" 7 years ago, before she got into politics. IIRC she ended up apologizing and deleted the tweet and now all is forgiven.
No.
No it is not.
> Ilhan Omar did get a bit of negative press a while back when it was discovered that she had tweeted "Israel has hypnotized the world, may Allah awaken the people and help them see the evil doings of Israel #Gaza #Palestine #Israel" 7 years ago, before she got into politics. IIRC she ended up apologizing and deleted the tweet and now all is forgiven.
No.
No it is not.
Anonymous N replied with this 6 years ago, 1 hour later, 12 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,016,298
@1,016,179 (Meta !Sober//iZs)
> but I would say the media is at least 2/3rds anti-Trump.
I'm curious to know what being anti-Trump means to you. What does a media outlet have to do to be anti-Trump?
> but I would say the media is at least 2/3rds anti-Trump.
I'm curious to know what being anti-Trump means to you. What does a media outlet have to do to be anti-Trump?
Anonymous L replied with this 6 years ago, 9 minutes later, 12 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,016,302
Anonymous N replied with this 6 years ago, 12 minutes later, 12 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,016,306
@1,016,276 (O)
ADL Condemns President Trump's Racist Tweets and His Use of Israel and Jews as a Shield
The ADL (Anti-Defamation League) today condemned President Trump’s racist tweets about four U.S. congresswomen, in which he said they should “go back and help fix the totally broken and crime infested places from which they came,” and his defense of these remarks by saying the congresswomen hate Israel and are anti-Semitic.
“As Jews, we are all too familiar with this kind of divisive prejudice,” said Jonathan Greenblatt, ADL CEO and National Director. “While ADL has publicly disagreed with these congresswomen on some issues, the president is echoing the racist talking points of white nationalists and cynically using the Jewish people and the state of Israel as a shield to double down on his remarks. Politicizing the widespread, bipartisan support for Israel and throwing around accusations of anti-Semitism is damaging to the security of Israel and the Jewish community. He should lead by example, stop politicizing these issues and stop smearing members of Congress.”
ADL Condemns President Trump's Racist Tweets and His Use of Israel and Jews as a Shield
The ADL (Anti-Defamation League) today condemned President Trump’s racist tweets about four U.S. congresswomen, in which he said they should “go back and help fix the totally broken and crime infested places from which they came,” and his defense of these remarks by saying the congresswomen hate Israel and are anti-Semitic.
“As Jews, we are all too familiar with this kind of divisive prejudice,” said Jonathan Greenblatt, ADL CEO and National Director. “While ADL has publicly disagreed with these congresswomen on some issues, the president is echoing the racist talking points of white nationalists and cynically using the Jewish people and the state of Israel as a shield to double down on his remarks. Politicizing the widespread, bipartisan support for Israel and throwing around accusations of anti-Semitism is damaging to the security of Israel and the Jewish community. He should lead by example, stop politicizing these issues and stop smearing members of Congress.”
Killer Lettuce? !HonkUK.BIE replied with this 6 years ago, 30 minutes later, 13 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,016,308
@1,016,179 (Meta !Sober//iZs)
@1,016,194 (L)
I was referring specifically to media outlets that are usually sympathetic to him. Fox News and such.
@1,016,194 (L)
I was referring specifically to media outlets that are usually sympathetic to him. Fox News and such.
