Topic: Mandatory fora Rollcall vote
Anonymous A started this discussion 6 years ago #88,329
Do you support open borders?
Anonymous A (OP) double-posted this 6 years ago, 2 minutes later[^] [v] #1,010,363
Yes but only to help win the 2020 election for the Democrats.
Anonymous B joined in and replied with this 6 years ago, 41 seconds later, 3 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #1,010,364
Kook !!rcSrAtaAC joined in and replied with this 6 years ago, 21 seconds later, 3 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #1,010,365
No
Anonymous B replied with this 6 years ago, 18 minutes later, 22 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #1,010,377
@previous (Kook !!rcSrAtaAC)
Florida has no problem with opening the border for Cubans who were abused something horrid/terrible/disgusting/
Florida appears to have prospered as result.
Florida has no problem with opening the border for Cubans who were abused something horrid/terrible/disgusting/
Florida appears to have prospered as result.
Anonymous D joined in and replied with this 6 years ago, 17 minutes later, 40 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #1,010,382
Anonymous B replied with this 6 years ago, 9 minutes later, 49 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #1,010,393
@previous (D)
Proof?
Let me help you with this difficult subject. Proof that Latinos and others in fact do go through the process and my source is a Republican based source.
https://www.cato.org/blog/immigration-application-denials-jump-37-percent-under-trump
OK so there is more to read from that Link - Which DOES Prove Mexicans and Latinos and Others Do in fact go through the immigration process.
So pleased to show how rong you are about this.
And except for Felons, No Cubans were turned back and shipped off to Cuba
Proof?
Let me help you with this difficult subject. Proof that Latinos and others in fact do go through the process and my source is a Republican based source.
https://www.cato.org/blog/immigration-application-denials-jump-37-percent-under-trump
Immigration Application Denial Rates Jump 37% Under Trump
New data from the U.S. Citizenship and Immigration Services (USCIS), the agency that adjudicates immigration applications, show that denials have jumped significantly. The data for the first nine months of Fiscal Year (FY) 2018, which started in October 2017, show that denials for all manner of immigration benefits—travel documents, work permits, green cards, worker petitions, etc.—increased 37 percent since FY 2016.
As Figure 1 shows, the denial rate increased from 8.3 percent to 11.3 percent from FY 2016 to FY 2018. These statistics exclude citizenship applications and include all other immigration forms except for the Deferred Action for Childhood Arrivals and Temporary Protective Status programs, because they provide status to illegal immigrants, and President Trump has tried to cancel them almost completely. But the trends are similar regardless.
Figure 2 details the number of denied applications by year, with the FY 2018 projection based on the first nine months of the year. On an absolute basis, FY 2018 will see more than about 155,000 more denials than FY 2016.
This year has seen the highest denial rate of the years for which data is available since FY 2013 (see Table 1 below). Denial rates increased from FY 2016 to FY 2018 in 19 of the 26 benefits categories for which the information was available for all years. These include the most important benefits categories like those for requesting foreign workers, applying for green cards, and asking for authorization to work or travel.
New data from the U.S. Citizenship and Immigration Services (USCIS), the agency that adjudicates immigration applications, show that denials have jumped significantly. The data for the first nine months of Fiscal Year (FY) 2018, which started in October 2017, show that denials for all manner of immigration benefits—travel documents, work permits, green cards, worker petitions, etc.—increased 37 percent since FY 2016.
As Figure 1 shows, the denial rate increased from 8.3 percent to 11.3 percent from FY 2016 to FY 2018. These statistics exclude citizenship applications and include all other immigration forms except for the Deferred Action for Childhood Arrivals and Temporary Protective Status programs, because they provide status to illegal immigrants, and President Trump has tried to cancel them almost completely. But the trends are similar regardless.
Figure 2 details the number of denied applications by year, with the FY 2018 projection based on the first nine months of the year. On an absolute basis, FY 2018 will see more than about 155,000 more denials than FY 2016.
This year has seen the highest denial rate of the years for which data is available since FY 2013 (see Table 1 below). Denial rates increased from FY 2016 to FY 2018 in 19 of the 26 benefits categories for which the information was available for all years. These include the most important benefits categories like those for requesting foreign workers, applying for green cards, and asking for authorization to work or travel.
OK so there is more to read from that Link - Which DOES Prove Mexicans and Latinos and Others Do in fact go through the immigration process.
So pleased to show how rong you are about this.
And except for Felons, No Cubans were turned back and shipped off to Cuba
Anonymous D replied with this 6 years ago, 3 minutes later, 52 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #1,010,395
@previous (B)
Syntax, nobody cares about your Google search bullshit. You are a stalker who stalks everything that moves.
Mods, I'm gone until syntax is booted from this site.
Syntax, nobody cares about your Google search bullshit. You are a stalker who stalks everything that moves.
Mods, I'm gone until syntax is booted from this site.
Anonymous B replied with this 6 years ago, 8 minutes later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #1,010,403
@previous (D)
Don't let the door kick back on you
Of course the problem you have with that threat is your IP - If in fact you do not leave for several years you going to be found out to be a liar in just a few minutes.
Don't let the door kick back on you
Of course the problem you have with that threat is your IP - If in fact you do not leave for several years you going to be found out to be a liar in just a few minutes.
Anonymous E joined in and replied with this 6 years ago, 11 minutes later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #1,010,412
Where's the poll? Where is it?
Anonymous F joined in and replied with this 6 years ago, 1 minute later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #1,010,416
Anonymous G joined in and replied with this 6 years ago, 40 seconds later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #1,010,418
Yes. Open borders back into Iraq or Afghanistan. They don't accept their own back when we try to deport them for raping blue eyed admins up the butt.
Anonymous H joined in and replied with this 6 years ago, 4 minutes later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #1,010,419
@1,010,412 (E)
> Where's the poll? Where is it?
You Yes you can make a topic tomorrow or next week or next month and include a Pole.
> Where's the poll? Where is it?
You Yes you can make a topic tomorrow or next week or next month and include a Pole.
Anonymous F replied with this 6 years ago, 4 minutes later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #1,010,424
I will support open boarders when the liberal aristocracy supports leaving their front doors wide open when they leave their mansions.
Sheila LaBoof joined in and replied with this 6 years ago, 7 minutes later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #1,010,431
Anonymous J joined in and replied with this 6 years ago, 42 seconds later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #1,010,432
Kook !g394spAKvY joined in and replied with this 6 years ago, 3 minutes later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #1,010,436
Open borders are the humane thing to do. Borders get people killed.
The Word of God replied with this 6 years ago, 11 seconds later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #1,010,437
@1,010,424 (F)
Revelation 3:8
“‘I know your works. Behold, I have set before you an open door, which no one is able to shut. I know that you have but little power, and yet you have kept my word and have not denied my name.
Revelation 3:8
“‘I know your works. Behold, I have set before you an open door, which no one is able to shut. I know that you have but little power, and yet you have kept my word and have not denied my name.
Kook !!rcSrAtaAC replied with this 6 years ago, 1 minute later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #1,010,439
Kook !!rcSrAtaAC double-posted this 6 years ago, 40 seconds later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #1,010,440
Anonymous E replied with this 6 years ago, 3 minutes later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #1,010,442
Anonymous L joined in and replied with this 6 years ago, 1 minute later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #1,010,444
@1,010,440 (Kook !!rcSrAtaAC)
As long as they are working, and they made it over here, why not let them stay? They are contributing more than many people do, just by working.
As long as they are working, and they made it over here, why not let them stay? They are contributing more than many people do, just by working.
Kook !g394spAKvY replied with this 6 years ago, 56 seconds later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #1,010,445
Anonymous J replied with this 6 years ago, 1 second later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #1,010,446
@1,010,440 (Kook !!rcSrAtaAC)
This article is 3 years old yet probably as accurate as it gets - I find it a bit odd re costs.
https://www.sun-sentinel.com/news/sfl-us-cuba-welfare-benefits-part-3-htmlstory.html
Special status for Cubans
Florida politicians have fiercely fought to protect the special status given to Cuban immigrants, transforming U.S. government assistance from handouts of powdered milk and cheese to a multibillion dollar entitlement.
Aid to Cuban immigrants — who are granted immediate access to welfare, food stamps and Medicaid — has ballooned from a $1 million federal allocation in 1960 to at least $680 million a year today.
How did Cubans become the only nationality with unfettered access to U.S. government benefits? A combination of compassion, panic and politics.
U.S. Sen. Lawton Chiles of Florida successfully pushed an amendment guaranteeing Cuban immigrants’ eligibility for the most generous welfare payments, Supplemental Security Income (SSI), when Congress created the program in 1972. Chiles, who later became Florida’s governor, argued that the U.S. must protect “the right to benefits of Cuban refugees.”
When the 1980 Mariel Boatlift brought 125,000 Cuban migrants in just six months, overwhelming Florida’s social service agencies, the state’s congressmen responded. They persuaded Congress to authorize $100 million in aid for the refugees and create a special category for Cuban immigrants that made new arrivals eligible for government benefits for decades to come.
Cubans were among the few immigrant groups to dodge welfare reform in the 1990s. While other newcomers were barred from benefits for at least five years, Cubans could collect aid upon arrival.
Cubans “are eligible for all welfare on the same basis as U.S. citizens, as soon as they hit the shore — all welfare,” said Don Barnett of the Center for Immigration Studies, a Washington-based nonpartisan research group.
Neither Congress nor the Obama administration is publicly discussing whether the aid is still warranted, even as the two countries reconcile.
The intent of the money was to help Cuban refugees flee communist oppression and settle here. But that privileged status now seems unjustifiable as Cubans trek back and forth to Havana to visit, said one of the original architects of the entitlement, former U.S. Sen. Richard Stone of Florida.
In the 1990s welfare reform movement, Miami's members of Congress at the time, Cuban-Americans Ileana Ros-Lehtinen and Lincoln Diaz-Balart, helped protect Cubans and other elderly immigrants from losing benefits. Pictured here at a 2006 news conference, Diaz-Balart later retired. Photo by Alan Diaz, Associated Press
Stone, now 87 and living in Maryland, recently told the Sun Sentinel that he supported giving aid to any Cuban who had “the gumption to risk his life to get to America.” But he said welfare was not meant for Cubans to return to the island. “It proves there is not [persecution], if you can go back and forth.”
The travel raises questions about the extraordinary assistance Cubans receive, he said. “I definitely think it needs to be thoroughly investigated.”
Limitless
The U.S. government and charities provided the earliest exiles with clothes, minimal cash and handouts of oatmeal, cheese and canned ham at downtown Miami’s Freedom Tower. It was a humanitarian effort to help those who fled Fidel Castro while waiting for his government to fall. That never happened, and as more refugees reached Florida shores, a Cuban voting bloc grew into a powerhouse.
“There is no question the Cuban lobby in American politics has been pretty strong since the early 1960s,” said Carl Bon Tempo, a professor at the State University of New York at Albany and author of a book on refugees. “They’ve been able to, for a number of reasons, put pressure on local, state and national officials” to preserve and expand aid.
The justification was two-pronged: Florida should not have to shoulder the costs of educating, housing and providing health care to thousands of new immigrants each year. And the U.S., upholding tradition as a sanctuary for the oppressed, supported the refugees.
The aid was intended as a short-term boost for Cubans to resettle, but the cost to U.S. taxpayers has become limitless.
The Sun Sentinel found that Cubans are disproportionately represented among foreign-born recipients of SSI, assistance for disabled people and impoverished seniors. In 2013, one in 10 Cubans was collecting SSI, compared to one in 25 immigrants from all other nations.
This article is 3 years old yet probably as accurate as it gets - I find it a bit odd re costs.
https://www.sun-sentinel.com/news/sfl-us-cuba-welfare-benefits-part-3-htmlstory.html
Special status for Cubans
Florida politicians have fiercely fought to protect the special status given to Cuban immigrants, transforming U.S. government assistance from handouts of powdered milk and cheese to a multibillion dollar entitlement.
Aid to Cuban immigrants — who are granted immediate access to welfare, food stamps and Medicaid — has ballooned from a $1 million federal allocation in 1960 to at least $680 million a year today.
How did Cubans become the only nationality with unfettered access to U.S. government benefits? A combination of compassion, panic and politics.
U.S. Sen. Lawton Chiles of Florida successfully pushed an amendment guaranteeing Cuban immigrants’ eligibility for the most generous welfare payments, Supplemental Security Income (SSI), when Congress created the program in 1972. Chiles, who later became Florida’s governor, argued that the U.S. must protect “the right to benefits of Cuban refugees.”
When the 1980 Mariel Boatlift brought 125,000 Cuban migrants in just six months, overwhelming Florida’s social service agencies, the state’s congressmen responded. They persuaded Congress to authorize $100 million in aid for the refugees and create a special category for Cuban immigrants that made new arrivals eligible for government benefits for decades to come.
Cubans were among the few immigrant groups to dodge welfare reform in the 1990s. While other newcomers were barred from benefits for at least five years, Cubans could collect aid upon arrival.
Cubans “are eligible for all welfare on the same basis as U.S. citizens, as soon as they hit the shore — all welfare,” said Don Barnett of the Center for Immigration Studies, a Washington-based nonpartisan research group.
Neither Congress nor the Obama administration is publicly discussing whether the aid is still warranted, even as the two countries reconcile.
The intent of the money was to help Cuban refugees flee communist oppression and settle here. But that privileged status now seems unjustifiable as Cubans trek back and forth to Havana to visit, said one of the original architects of the entitlement, former U.S. Sen. Richard Stone of Florida.
In the 1990s welfare reform movement, Miami's members of Congress at the time, Cuban-Americans Ileana Ros-Lehtinen and Lincoln Diaz-Balart, helped protect Cubans and other elderly immigrants from losing benefits. Pictured here at a 2006 news conference, Diaz-Balart later retired. Photo by Alan Diaz, Associated Press
Stone, now 87 and living in Maryland, recently told the Sun Sentinel that he supported giving aid to any Cuban who had “the gumption to risk his life to get to America.” But he said welfare was not meant for Cubans to return to the island. “It proves there is not [persecution], if you can go back and forth.”
The travel raises questions about the extraordinary assistance Cubans receive, he said. “I definitely think it needs to be thoroughly investigated.”
Limitless
The U.S. government and charities provided the earliest exiles with clothes, minimal cash and handouts of oatmeal, cheese and canned ham at downtown Miami’s Freedom Tower. It was a humanitarian effort to help those who fled Fidel Castro while waiting for his government to fall. That never happened, and as more refugees reached Florida shores, a Cuban voting bloc grew into a powerhouse.
“There is no question the Cuban lobby in American politics has been pretty strong since the early 1960s,” said Carl Bon Tempo, a professor at the State University of New York at Albany and author of a book on refugees. “They’ve been able to, for a number of reasons, put pressure on local, state and national officials” to preserve and expand aid.
The justification was two-pronged: Florida should not have to shoulder the costs of educating, housing and providing health care to thousands of new immigrants each year. And the U.S., upholding tradition as a sanctuary for the oppressed, supported the refugees.
The aid was intended as a short-term boost for Cubans to resettle, but the cost to U.S. taxpayers has become limitless.
The Sun Sentinel found that Cubans are disproportionately represented among foreign-born recipients of SSI, assistance for disabled people and impoverished seniors. In 2013, one in 10 Cubans was collecting SSI, compared to one in 25 immigrants from all other nations.
Kook !!rcSrAtaAC replied with this 6 years ago, 2 minutes later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #1,010,449
@1,010,444 (L)
I think that many people should be allowed to stay as long as they pass background checks and we can allow for it
Just by working does not contribute as much because they work under the table and don't pay taxes
I think that many people should be allowed to stay as long as they pass background checks and we can allow for it
Just by working does not contribute as much because they work under the table and don't pay taxes
(Edited 1 minute later.)
Anonymous L replied with this 6 years ago, 1 minute later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #1,010,451
Anonymous B replied with this 6 years ago, 15 minutes later, 2 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,010,456
@1,010,449 (Kook !!rcSrAtaAC)> I think that many people should be allowed to stay as long as they pass background checks and we can allow for it
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> Just by working does not contribute as much because they work under the table and don't pay taxes
https://www.vox.com/2019/3/1/18241692/undocumented-immigrants-pay-state-local-taxes
Undocumented immigrants pay millions of dollars in state taxes — even in the reddest states
All the money undocumented immigrants pay in state taxes, in one map.
President Donald Trump insists that there’s a national emergency at the “very dangerous southern border.”
He’s called it an “invasion” of undocumented immigrants endangering the lives and livelihoods of hardworking American citizens. And he’s used this narrative to justify taking billions of dollars from the US military to build a border wall.
But when a reporter disputed Trump’s claims earlier this month, Trump only made vague assertions about having “many stats” to back it up.
The president then repeated one of his most outrageous lies: that undocumented immigrants cost US taxpayers a ton of money.
“Billions and billions of dollars a month,” he said. “Billions and billions of dollars. And it’s unnecessary.”
I’ve written before about how false — and pervasive — this myth is. That, in fact, undocumented immigrants contribute billions of dollars in federal taxes each year, and their income taxes and payroll tax dollars are keeping Social Security and Medicare solvent.
But it’s also worth noting that undocumented immigrants are paying billions of dollars in state and local taxes each year — in all 50 states.
While it’s impossible to get the exact numbers because of the limited data available, researchers at the left-leaning Institute on Taxation & Economic Policy estimate that undocumented workers paid a total of $11.7 billion in state and local taxes in 2014, the most recent year of data, according to their 2017 report.
That includes $7 billion in sales taxes and excise taxes, which are those paid on specific items like gas sales and vehicle registrations. Undocumented immigrants, like everyone else, pay for highway repairs, state courts, police, and firefighters. They also paid about $1.1 billion in state income taxes and $3.6 billion in property taxes that year — money that funds public schools, garbage collection, and other city services.
More in text - Kook will enjoy the gains to her state as shown in map and Syntax will be thrilled as well
Anonymous M joined in and replied with this 6 years ago, 5 minutes later, 2 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,010,458
Tell me, if there are hundreds of murders, rapes, thefts uninsured traffic accidents etc by immigrants who are illegally in the United States AND their presence is costing us Billions by being here illegally and special funds used for them are taken away from the budgets of schools and hospitals to the detriment of U.S. citizens.......Why should they not deported?
Can you give an argument besides saying that citizens also commit crimes? Is that the only thing you can say?
When I say those children in the detention centers who are being cruelly tortured 24 hours a day on direct orders from Trump wouldnt be there if their parents had not committed a felony by coming into the country illegally.......can you argue against that without saying something stupid a d totally erroneous?
I keep hoping but keep being disappointed.
Can you give an argument besides saying that citizens also commit crimes? Is that the only thing you can say?
When I say those children in the detention centers who are being cruelly tortured 24 hours a day on direct orders from Trump wouldnt be there if their parents had not committed a felony by coming into the country illegally.......can you argue against that without saying something stupid a d totally erroneous?
I keep hoping but keep being disappointed.
Anonymous N joined in and replied with this 6 years ago, 22 minutes later, 2 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,010,465
@1,010,382 (D)
> Cubans go through the immigration process. The shit stained mexicans do not.
Cubans don’t have to go through an immigration process like the rest of the world; they are granted amnesty carte blanche if they get one foot ashore. The US Coast Guard actively looks for their boats to try and turn them around back to Cuba if they can find them. Cuban immigrants are treated as illegals until the moment they make it ashore.
> Cubans go through the immigration process. The shit stained mexicans do not.
Cubans don’t have to go through an immigration process like the rest of the world; they are granted amnesty carte blanche if they get one foot ashore. The US Coast Guard actively looks for their boats to try and turn them around back to Cuba if they can find them. Cuban immigrants are treated as illegals until the moment they make it ashore.
Anonymous N double-posted this 6 years ago, 4 minutes later, 2 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,010,467
@previous (N)
Looks like Obama got rid of it after he tried to normalize relations with Cuba
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wet_feet,_dry_feet_policy
Looks like Obama got rid of it after he tried to normalize relations with Cuba
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wet_feet,_dry_feet_policy
Kook !!rcSrAtaAC replied with this 6 years ago, 24 minutes later, 2 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,010,490
Ananthanarayanan M R joined in and replied with this 6 years ago, 14 minutes later, 3 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,010,491
depends on the border
Anonymous B replied with this 6 years ago, 2 minutes later, 3 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,010,492
@1,010,458 (M)Bert must be blind because I have posted this proof before
Citizens commit more crime than undocumented immigrants
Sheila LaBoof replied with this 6 years ago, 57 seconds later, 3 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,010,494
@1,010,458 (M)
> Tell me, if there are hundreds of murders, rapes, thefts uninsured traffic accidents etc by immigrants who are illegally in the United States AND their presence is costing us Billions by being here illegally and special funds used for them are taken away from the budgets of schools and hospitals to the detriment of U.S. citizens.......Why should they not deported?
>
> Can you give an argument besides saying that citizens also commit crimes? Is that the only thing you can say?
>
>
> When I say those children in the detention centers who are being cruelly tortured 24 hours a day on direct orders from Trump wouldnt be there if their parents had not committed a felony by coming into the country illegally.......can you argue against that without saying something stupid a d totally erroneous?
>
> I keep hoping but keep being disappointed.
you haven't figured out the mathematical concept of proportions yet have you
> Tell me, if there are hundreds of murders, rapes, thefts uninsured traffic accidents etc by immigrants who are illegally in the United States AND their presence is costing us Billions by being here illegally and special funds used for them are taken away from the budgets of schools and hospitals to the detriment of U.S. citizens.......Why should they not deported?
>
> Can you give an argument besides saying that citizens also commit crimes? Is that the only thing you can say?
>
>
> When I say those children in the detention centers who are being cruelly tortured 24 hours a day on direct orders from Trump wouldnt be there if their parents had not committed a felony by coming into the country illegally.......can you argue against that without saying something stupid a d totally erroneous?
>
> I keep hoping but keep being disappointed.
you haven't figured out the mathematical concept of proportions yet have you
Anonymous M replied with this 6 years ago, 25 seconds later, 3 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,010,495
Anonymous B replied with this 6 years ago, 1 minute later, 3 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,010,496
@1,010,490 (Kook !!rcSrAtaAC)
I am running out of time today as a great Friday starts soon so let me show you Google results of my Question
What % of immigrants pay PayRoll Taxes?
I am running out of time today as a great Friday starts soon so let me show you Google results of my Question
What % of immigrants pay PayRoll Taxes?
What percentage of illegals pay taxes?
Research reviewed by the nonpartisan Congressional Budget Office indicates that between 50 percent and 75 percent of unauthorized immigrants pay federal, state, and local taxes. Illegal immigrants are estimated to pay in about $7 billion per year into Social Security.
Economic impact of illegal immigrants in the United States - Wikipedia
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Economic_impact_of_illegal_immigrants_in_the_United_States
Research reviewed by the nonpartisan Congressional Budget Office indicates that between 50 percent and 75 percent of unauthorized immigrants pay federal, state, and local taxes. Illegal immigrants are estimated to pay in about $7 billion per year into Social Security.
Economic impact of illegal immigrants in the United States - Wikipedia
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Economic_impact_of_illegal_immigrants_in_the_United_States
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Anonymous B double-posted this 6 years ago, 8 minutes later, 3 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,010,499
@1,010,495 (M)
If you mean this part which I did not address?
> When I say those children in the detention centers who are being cruelly tortured 24 hours a day on direct orders from Trump wouldnt be there if their parents had not committed a felony by coming into the country illegally.......can you argue against that without saying something stupid a d totally erroneous?
> I keep hoping but keep being disappointed.
Not a single Court of Law agrees with you - Not a Single Christian Church agrees with YOU - The Church of Satan does agree with you
But hey if you going to blame a 6 month old baby for what parents have done and believe it's ok for a baby to live in filth without benefit of soap well sure Trump Admin agrees with you cause they tried to make that case in court of Law and Judge has that case open while the Nation views in Shock and Awe
I figure given your shot up so many harmful drugs it's your diseased brain that is at fault but hey Bad booze also does some bad shit to your so called Christian Brain.
If you mean this part which I did not address?
> When I say those children in the detention centers who are being cruelly tortured 24 hours a day on direct orders from Trump wouldnt be there if their parents had not committed a felony by coming into the country illegally.......can you argue against that without saying something stupid a d totally erroneous?
> I keep hoping but keep being disappointed.
Not a single Court of Law agrees with you - Not a Single Christian Church agrees with YOU - The Church of Satan does agree with you
But hey if you going to blame a 6 month old baby for what parents have done and believe it's ok for a baby to live in filth without benefit of soap well sure Trump Admin agrees with you cause they tried to make that case in court of Law and Judge has that case open while the Nation views in Shock and Awe
I figure given your shot up so many harmful drugs it's your diseased brain that is at fault but hey Bad booze also does some bad shit to your so called Christian Brain.
Anonymous F replied with this 6 years ago, 4 minutes later, 3 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,010,503
Sheila LaBoof replied with this 6 years ago, 2 hours later, 6 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,010,533
@previous (F)
I find them to be as jerkoff asshole as anyone else, maybe more so with some of them having an "I made it, what is wrong with you that you did not" kind of attitude
you seem to be seeing them from afar or hearing other people talk about them in your daily media
you know you don't want to fall into stereotypes about anything
better to have specific named people that we can look at for ourselves to get a solid take on what you mean
I find them to be as jerkoff asshole as anyone else, maybe more so with some of them having an "I made it, what is wrong with you that you did not" kind of attitude
you seem to be seeing them from afar or hearing other people talk about them in your daily media
you know you don't want to fall into stereotypes about anything
better to have specific named people that we can look at for ourselves to get a solid take on what you mean
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Anonymous M replied with this 6 years ago, 2 hours later, 8 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,010,569
@1,010,499 (B)
I dont see you being concerned with citizens of you own state who are in prisons and jails stuffed to the gills...terribly over crowded because of the three strikes law which Cali leaders are so fond of...where people get locked up for life on a jaywalking charge..
I dont see you being concerned with citizens of you own state who are in prisons and jails stuffed to the gills...terribly over crowded because of the three strikes law which Cali leaders are so fond of...where people get locked up for life on a jaywalking charge..
Anonymous F replied with this 6 years ago, 1 hour later, 10 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,010,576
@1,010,533 (Sheila LaBoof)
> I find them to be as jerkoff asshole as anyone else, maybe more so with some of them having an "I made it, what is wrong with you that you did not" kind of attitude
My point exactly - they are hypocrites.
> you seem to be seeing them from afar or hearing other people talk about them in your daily media
Nope, personal experience.
> you know you don't want to fall into stereotypes about anything
> better to have specific named people that we can look at for ourselves to get a solid take on what you mean
Nah, the archetypal spoilt, entitled rich kid who has never had to work for anything in their life is abundant and easy to spot. They are the ones who don their Halloween costume balaclavas, go larping as revolutionaries, virtue signal the loudest and cry about open boarders the hardest, while remaining naive about the actual problems associated with all these major world issues they assume they are experts on because they watch CNN.
> I find them to be as jerkoff asshole as anyone else, maybe more so with some of them having an "I made it, what is wrong with you that you did not" kind of attitude
My point exactly - they are hypocrites.
> you seem to be seeing them from afar or hearing other people talk about them in your daily media
Nope, personal experience.
> you know you don't want to fall into stereotypes about anything
> better to have specific named people that we can look at for ourselves to get a solid take on what you mean
Nah, the archetypal spoilt, entitled rich kid who has never had to work for anything in their life is abundant and easy to spot. They are the ones who don their Halloween costume balaclavas, go larping as revolutionaries, virtue signal the loudest and cry about open boarders the hardest, while remaining naive about the actual problems associated with all these major world issues they assume they are experts on because they watch CNN.
Sheila LaBoof replied with this 6 years ago, 25 minutes later, 10 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,010,577
@previous (F)
I would like to hear more about your personal experience.
"entitled rich kid"s are especially abundant in politics. It's rare that they give a shit about anyone else. They gravitate to the Republican party lately, so your account makes no sense at all from my observations. Loads of trust-fund pundits on talk shows and cable and youtube, for instance, the rare one who isn't just giving the Republican party lines or bitching about retarded SJW shit.
These larpers you talk of, there probably are some, but I don't know any by name. It's typically some random shithead I never heard of who tosses bricks into shop windows during economic summits. Those fuckers can go to hell for all I care. But no one takes them seriously enough to give them television shows.
I would like to hear more about your personal experience.
"entitled rich kid"s are especially abundant in politics. It's rare that they give a shit about anyone else. They gravitate to the Republican party lately, so your account makes no sense at all from my observations. Loads of trust-fund pundits on talk shows and cable and youtube, for instance, the rare one who isn't just giving the Republican party lines or bitching about retarded SJW shit.
These larpers you talk of, there probably are some, but I don't know any by name. It's typically some random shithead I never heard of who tosses bricks into shop windows during economic summits. Those fuckers can go to hell for all I care. But no one takes them seriously enough to give them television shows.
Anonymous P joined in and replied with this 6 years ago, 5 hours later, 15 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,010,613
You need an open border to USAmerica so that the migrants will do the things that USAmericans don't want to. Like voting Democrat.Sheila LaBoof replied with this 6 years ago, 11 minutes later, 15 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,010,614
@previous (P)
your supposition has errors: Only citizens are permitted to vote. There is no party called Democrat. It would like saying someone voted Republic. And, the most talk about open border is by people who claim that other people are talking about open border. The talk is dishonest in that way.
your supposition has errors: Only citizens are permitted to vote. There is no party called Democrat. It would like saying someone voted Republic. And, the most talk about open border is by people who claim that other people are talking about open border. The talk is dishonest in that way.
Anonymous P replied with this 6 years ago, 5 hours later, 21 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,010,631
@previous (Sheila LaBoof)
Democrat want open borders and are offering free healthcare and free college and free money for anyone that shows up! Normal people understand that this is not sustainable. I don't think you are a normal person though. I think you will vote Democrat, and Trump will win 2020
Democrat want open borders and are offering free healthcare and free college and free money for anyone that shows up! Normal people understand that this is not sustainable. I don't think you are a normal person though. I think you will vote Democrat, and Trump will win 2020
Sheila LaBoof replied with this 6 years ago, 4 hours later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #1,010,709
@previous (P)
I'm finding it difficult to take you at your word when you can't be bothered to be honest or even accurate.
I'm finding it difficult to take you at your word when you can't be bothered to be honest or even accurate.
Anonymous D replied with this 6 years ago, 19 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #1,010,715
@previous (Sheila LaBoof)
> I'm finding it difficult to take you at your word when you can't be bothered to be honest or even accurate.
Anon P is accurate. Dems want free healthcare, free college, and free money for illegals. Keep up or shut up.
> I'm finding it difficult to take you at your word when you can't be bothered to be honest or even accurate.
Anon P is accurate. Dems want free healthcare, free college, and free money for illegals. Keep up or shut up.
Anonymous Q joined in and replied with this 6 years ago, 18 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #1,010,724
@previous (D)
Of course free health college & money for illegals is ideal and like fairy tales just a dream.
Republicans on the other hand drive up the national debt as if that was a fairy tale and interest on loans from foreign countries can be paid back with monopoly money.
In the mean time Republican millionaires end up with tax breaks so large, they have no idea of what to do with that cash.
Of course free health college & money for illegals is ideal and like fairy tales just a dream.
Republicans on the other hand drive up the national debt as if that was a fairy tale and interest on loans from foreign countries can be paid back with monopoly money.
In the mean time Republican millionaires end up with tax breaks so large, they have no idea of what to do with that cash.
Anonymous D replied with this 6 years ago, 30 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #1,010,730
@previous (Q)
Why are dumbocraps all for giving illegals free health/college/cash, but not for helping its own US citizens who live in poverty?
Why can't I, a US citizen, have free health, college, and cash?
Why are dumbocraps all for giving illegals free health/college/cash, but not for helping its own US citizens who live in poverty?
Why can't I, a US citizen, have free health, college, and cash?
Sheila LaBoof replied with this 6 years ago, 2 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #1,010,731
@1,010,715 (D)
> > I'm finding it difficult to take you at your word when you can't be bothered to be honest or even accurate.
>
> Anon P is accurate. Dems want free healthcare, free college, and free money for illegals. Keep up or shut up.
You are not honest. I don't like you.
> > I'm finding it difficult to take you at your word when you can't be bothered to be honest or even accurate.
>
> Anon P is accurate. Dems want free healthcare, free college, and free money for illegals. Keep up or shut up.
You are not honest. I don't like you.
Anonymous D replied with this 6 years ago, 4 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #1,010,733
@previous (Sheila LaBoof)
Let me be real honest with you for a second...
You are a fucking retarded dickhead.
Thanks for your time.
Let me be real honest with you for a second...
You are a fucking retarded dickhead.
Thanks for your time.
Answer Anon replied with this 6 years ago, 1 minute later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #1,010,734
@1,010,730 (D)
> Why are dumbocraps all for giving illegals free health/college/cash, but not for helping its own US citizens who live in poverty?
>
> Why can't I, a US citizen, have free health, college, and cash?
Because you worship the wrong God. If you select the more better God than you can pray for what you want and get it. Such is the way of Good Gods, not bad Gods.
> Why are dumbocraps all for giving illegals free health/college/cash, but not for helping its own US citizens who live in poverty?
>
> Why can't I, a US citizen, have free health, college, and cash?
Because you worship the wrong God. If you select the more better God than you can pray for what you want and get it. Such is the way of Good Gods, not bad Gods.
Sheila LaBoof replied with this 6 years ago, 4 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #1,010,736
@1,010,733 (D)
> Let me be real honest with you for a second...
>
> You are a fucking retarded dickhead.
>
> Thanks for your time.
hey swell
> Let me be real honest with you for a second...
>
> You are a fucking retarded dickhead.
>
> Thanks for your time.
hey swell
Anonymous E replied with this 6 years ago, 29 seconds later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #1,010,738
@1,010,730 (D)
> Why can't I, a US citizen, have free health, college, and cash?
Damn right all US citizens should have free health, college and cash.
> Why can't I, a US citizen, have free health, college, and cash?
Damn right all US citizens should have free health, college and cash.
terri !RwordOooFE joined in and replied with this 6 years ago, 2 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #1,010,739
@1,010,733 (D)
> Let me be real honest with you for a second...
>
> You are a fucking retarded dickhead.
>
> Thanks for your time.
you know someone's a real dickhead when Sheila don't like em
> Let me be real honest with you for a second...
>
> You are a fucking retarded dickhead.
>
> Thanks for your time.
you know someone's a real dickhead when Sheila don't like em
Anonymous S joined in and replied with this 6 years ago, 21 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #1,010,741
Yes, unironically.
Fake anon !ZkUt8arUCU joined in and replied with this 6 years ago, 52 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #1,010,771
@1,010,730 (D)
I mean...the question they were asked in the debate was basically "when you say your plan will cover everyone in the country, do you mean illegal immigrants too?" And they all raised their hands. I don't know how you can watch that and think "they want to ignore American citizens" if they are proposing universal health insurance.
Also right now, today, in America, illegal immigrants are receiving healthcare services. It is against the law for hospitals to ask if someone can afford the care, or if they are here legally. So basically what you have now is illegal immigrants getting no preventative medicine, then going and getting expensive emergency care and not paying the bill, driving up costs for everyone. If they're on a health insurance plan this is all factored into it and we actually save money.
I mean...the question they were asked in the debate was basically "when you say your plan will cover everyone in the country, do you mean illegal immigrants too?" And they all raised their hands. I don't know how you can watch that and think "they want to ignore American citizens" if they are proposing universal health insurance.
Also right now, today, in America, illegal immigrants are receiving healthcare services. It is against the law for hospitals to ask if someone can afford the care, or if they are here legally. So basically what you have now is illegal immigrants getting no preventative medicine, then going and getting expensive emergency care and not paying the bill, driving up costs for everyone. If they're on a health insurance plan this is all factored into it and we actually save money.
Anonymous P replied with this 6 years ago, 9 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #1,010,778
Fake anon !ZkUt8arUCU replied with this 6 years ago, 2 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #1,010,780
Anonymous U joined in and replied with this 6 years ago, 1 minute later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #1,010,781
@1,010,778 (P)
If all immigrants were deported the USA could not exist. Only American Indians would remain. That might be the best answer for a country that has become so disgusting. Americans are racist assholes and at best they go to wars and hurt and kill truly decent people.
If all immigrants were deported the USA could not exist. Only American Indians would remain. That might be the best answer for a country that has become so disgusting. Americans are racist assholes and at best they go to wars and hurt and kill truly decent people.
Anonymous P replied with this 6 years ago, 2 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #1,010,786
@1,010,780 (Fake anon !ZkUt8arUCU)
It's politically as popular as hell and helped get Trump elected, and probably will again. And it's not inhumane to remove people who aren't supposed to be there. I suppose you think walls are immoral too?
It's politically as popular as hell and helped get Trump elected, and probably will again. And it's not inhumane to remove people who aren't supposed to be there. I suppose you think walls are immoral too?
Anonymous P double-posted this 6 years ago, 2 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #1,010,791
@1,010,781 (U)
There are laws about immigration in every country. You can't just walk in to any country you want because you decide to. Stop acting so retarded
There are laws about immigration in every country. You can't just walk in to any country you want because you decide to. Stop acting so retarded
Anonymous V joined in and replied with this 6 years ago, 3 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #1,010,797
@previous (P)
Relax. You're a criminal and will always be a criminal. You don't care for immigrants because they want to work and you insist on being shiftless and lazy. Immigrants make you look bad and that is why you hate them.
Relax. You're a criminal and will always be a criminal. You don't care for immigrants because they want to work and you insist on being shiftless and lazy. Immigrants make you look bad and that is why you hate them.
Anonymous P replied with this 6 years ago, 1 minute later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #1,010,800
@previous (V)
Commiting tax fraud and identity fraud to work is grounds for the deportation of criminals. Thanks
Commiting tax fraud and identity fraud to work is grounds for the deportation of criminals. Thanks
Fake anon !ZkUt8arUCU replied with this 6 years ago, 3 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #1,010,803
@1,010,786 (P)Please stick to one UID and no it is not popular.
The vast majority of Americans (81%) favor allowing immigrants living illegally in the U.S. "the chance to become U.S. citizens if they meet certain requirements over a period of time."
Also immigration in general is more favored in the U.S. I understand that your only knowledge of America comes from conservative shithole websites but maybe you should expand your political horizons a bit so you understand a foreign country a little bit better.(Edited 23 seconds later.)
Anonymous M replied with this 6 years ago, 2 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #1,010,804
@1,010,724 (Q)
There was some candidate at the debate that when responding to something about how all the socialist program could be paid for...said "theres plenty of money out there to pay for it...but it's just in the wrong hands"
These folks want to tax the wealthy at 80 or 90 %..
I'm all for the bottom of the laxer folks to stop getting shafted so bad...but fuck...if I'm making 100 billion a year and you come along and say you are going to start taking 80 billion of it...I'm going to stop with all the bother and retire and all the thousands of people I'm supported through my endeavors will be fucked I guess..
There was some candidate at the debate that when responding to something about how all the socialist program could be paid for...said "theres plenty of money out there to pay for it...but it's just in the wrong hands"
These folks want to tax the wealthy at 80 or 90 %..
I'm all for the bottom of the laxer folks to stop getting shafted so bad...but fuck...if I'm making 100 billion a year and you come along and say you are going to start taking 80 billion of it...I'm going to stop with all the bother and retire and all the thousands of people I'm supported through my endeavors will be fucked I guess..
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Anonymous E replied with this 6 years ago, 1 minute later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #1,010,806
Anonymous P replied with this 6 years ago, 56 seconds later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #1,010,807
Anonymous M replied with this 6 years ago, 8 seconds later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #1,010,808
@1,010,800 (P)
Plus it's illegal for anyone to hire them if they are undocumented in the first place..
Plus it's illegal for anyone to hire them if they are undocumented in the first place..
Anonymous M double-posted this 6 years ago, 1 minute later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #1,010,809
Anonymous E replied with this 6 years ago, 1 minute later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #1,010,810
Anonymous M replied with this 6 years ago, 2 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #1,010,812
Dont care what is said...if we go with the Republican platform we can remain the top country we are..
If we go with the Democrats...we will end up weaker than Mexico...and it wont take long..
If we go with the Democrats...we will end up weaker than Mexico...and it wont take long..
Fake anon !ZkUt8arUCU replied with this 6 years ago, 45 seconds later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #1,010,813
@1,010,804 (M)
No one earns 100 billion per year wtf. Average CEO compensation for big companies is $12 million/yr. If someone thinks getting taking home $4 million/yr in cash isn't enough, then the company they are running (which is publicly traded) will find a CEO willing to work for that amount of money. It's not like every big company in America is going to close up shop overnight. Idk how I feel about a 70% millionaires tax in general but this fear seems not concerning to me.
No one earns 100 billion per year wtf. Average CEO compensation for big companies is $12 million/yr. If someone thinks getting taking home $4 million/yr in cash isn't enough, then the company they are running (which is publicly traded) will find a CEO willing to work for that amount of money. It's not like every big company in America is going to close up shop overnight. Idk how I feel about a 70% millionaires tax in general but this fear seems not concerning to me.
Fake anon !ZkUt8arUCU double-posted this 6 years ago, 1 minute later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #1,010,815
Anonymous M replied with this 6 years ago, 13 seconds later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #1,010,816
@1,010,810 (E)
How far do you think 20 billion goes in creating another solid business that will employ a few thousand people over 30 or 40 years???
How far do you think 20 billion goes in creating another solid business that will employ a few thousand people over 30 or 40 years???
Anonymous M double-posted this 6 years ago, 1 minute later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #1,010,817
Anonymous P replied with this 6 years ago, 1 minute later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #1,010,818
@1,010,812 (M)
Remember when all the socialist celebrities said they were going to leave the country if Trump was elected? I wonder if they'll say the same thing again, and still not do it. Also, they all said they were going to go to Canada but they can't work in Canada because of immigration laws.
None of them said they were going to go to Mexico... Funny that
Remember when all the socialist celebrities said they were going to leave the country if Trump was elected? I wonder if they'll say the same thing again, and still not do it. Also, they all said they were going to go to Canada but they can't work in Canada because of immigration laws.
None of them said they were going to go to Mexico... Funny that
Anonymous E replied with this 6 years ago, 2 seconds later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #1,010,819
Anonymous M replied with this 6 years ago, 2 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #1,010,820
Sheila LaBoof replied with this 6 years ago, 3 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #1,010,823
@1,010,804 (M)
> There was some candidate at the debate that when responding to something about how all the socialist program could be paid for...said "theres plenty of money out there to pay for it...but it's just in the wrong hands"
>
>
> These folks want to tax the wealthy at 80 or 90 %..
>
> I'm all for the bottom of the laxer folks to stop getting shafted so bad...but fuck...if I'm making 100 billion a year and you come along and say you are going to start taking 80 billion of it...I'm going to stop with all the bother and retire and all the thousands of people I'm supported through my endeavors will be fucked I guess..
Is that a flat rate or a marginal rate above some number of millions. Too often the reportage fails to make that clear.
> There was some candidate at the debate that when responding to something about how all the socialist program could be paid for...said "theres plenty of money out there to pay for it...but it's just in the wrong hands"
>
>
> These folks want to tax the wealthy at 80 or 90 %..
>
> I'm all for the bottom of the laxer folks to stop getting shafted so bad...but fuck...if I'm making 100 billion a year and you come along and say you are going to start taking 80 billion of it...I'm going to stop with all the bother and retire and all the thousands of people I'm supported through my endeavors will be fucked I guess..
Is that a flat rate or a marginal rate above some number of millions. Too often the reportage fails to make that clear.
Anonymous M replied with this 6 years ago, 8 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #1,010,829
@previous (Sheila LaBoof)
All I know is the New Green deal type folks seem to be saying they want to radically up the percentage of the top of the wealthy bunch are paying...so as to pay for programs for illegals and also those who have who want 20 dollars an hour to flip burgers and even those who have sat on welfare for 20 years and never done a damn thing for anybody but hassle others for handouts and free sfuff..
All I know is the New Green deal type folks seem to be saying they want to radically up the percentage of the top of the wealthy bunch are paying...so as to pay for programs for illegals and also those who have who want 20 dollars an hour to flip burgers and even those who have sat on welfare for 20 years and never done a damn thing for anybody but hassle others for handouts and free sfuff..
Sheila LaBoof replied with this 6 years ago, 39 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #1,010,847
@previous (M)
there's the dishonesty again
the tax ideas are not that specific, in terms of making illegal people specifically have programs. as for welfare, the reforms of the 1990s limited things far below the 20 years that you cite. don't forget what "welfare" is supposed to mean or supposed to accomplish -- it is a reference to faring well, not in great luxury obviously, but to avoid outright a horror show of suffering in a society that doesn't have to have it.
there's the dishonesty again
the tax ideas are not that specific, in terms of making illegal people specifically have programs. as for welfare, the reforms of the 1990s limited things far below the 20 years that you cite. don't forget what "welfare" is supposed to mean or supposed to accomplish -- it is a reference to faring well, not in great luxury obviously, but to avoid outright a horror show of suffering in a society that doesn't have to have it.
Anonymous M replied with this 6 years ago, 11 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #1,010,848
@previous (Sheila LaBoof)
More to the point about welfare means..
Welfare means taking tax dollars from someone who works their tail off to earn it...and handing it to someone who sits there drinking beer and watching the Price is Right and Judge Judy all morning while the ones who are working all day are at work...earning the money to give to the ones not working..
More to the point about welfare means..
Welfare means taking tax dollars from someone who works their tail off to earn it...and handing it to someone who sits there drinking beer and watching the Price is Right and Judge Judy all morning while the ones who are working all day are at work...earning the money to give to the ones not working..
Anonymous M double-posted this 6 years ago, 4 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #1,010,849
That 200 to 300 billions the government spends on illegals is welfare by the way..
Sheila LaBoof replied with this 6 years ago, 18 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #1,010,853
@1,010,848 (M)
> More to the point about welfare means..
>
>
> Welfare means taking tax dollars from someone who works their tail off to earn it...and handing it to someone who sits there drinking beer and watching the Price is Right and Judge Judy all morning while the ones who are working all day are at work...earning the money to give to the ones not working..
does it? or does it, in fact, NOT does. a rather jaundiced view there. no doubt some watch too much television though. I can only speculate.
@previous (M)
by that view, law enforcement is a form of welfare. as non-sociopathic ideals are held, we can't just cut their necks and dump them in a pit, so there's a maintenance cost.
> More to the point about welfare means..
>
>
> Welfare means taking tax dollars from someone who works their tail off to earn it...and handing it to someone who sits there drinking beer and watching the Price is Right and Judge Judy all morning while the ones who are working all day are at work...earning the money to give to the ones not working..
does it? or does it, in fact, NOT does. a rather jaundiced view there. no doubt some watch too much television though. I can only speculate.
@previous (M)
by that view, law enforcement is a form of welfare. as non-sociopathic ideals are held, we can't just cut their necks and dump them in a pit, so there's a maintenance cost.
Anonymous M replied with this 6 years ago, 14 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #1,010,857
@previous (Sheila LaBoof)
And that 200-300 Billion the government is paying for immigrants now?
Go ahead and double that when the word spreads about how the Democrats are going to include them all with universal healthcare..
Ok...so then 500-600 Billion just for management and THEN wheres the money for the cost of their head to toe medical cost one from..
And that 200-300 Billion the government is paying for immigrants now?
Go ahead and double that when the word spreads about how the Democrats are going to include them all with universal healthcare..
Ok...so then 500-600 Billion just for management and THEN wheres the money for the cost of their head to toe medical cost one from..
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Sheila LaBoof replied with this 6 years ago, 4 hours later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #1,010,926
@previous (M)
Listen, did you see how ridiculously difficult it was to get the Heritage Foundation inspired Affordable Care Act passed, the most heavily compromised gift to medical insurance companies, passed? And how it suffers today due to states rejecting even that sad attempt to have any coverage to the neglected few million people? How likely do you think that your most extreme vision of hell even comes close to happening, really, when eight years of Obama the great dictator couldn't even make a Republican-style plan stick very well?
Now, on medical costs... if you go to the expense of detaining millions of people, they become wards of the state, don't they. That is simply expensive even for the most basic of basic shit. As for deportation, that is already occurring now, and has been ramped up even under Obama's rule, to little notice apparently. The only further action I can see is the wall. Well, built it, fine. I hear the Mexicans are paying for it anyway, so great.
Listen, did you see how ridiculously difficult it was to get the Heritage Foundation inspired Affordable Care Act passed, the most heavily compromised gift to medical insurance companies, passed? And how it suffers today due to states rejecting even that sad attempt to have any coverage to the neglected few million people? How likely do you think that your most extreme vision of hell even comes close to happening, really, when eight years of Obama the great dictator couldn't even make a Republican-style plan stick very well?
Now, on medical costs... if you go to the expense of detaining millions of people, they become wards of the state, don't they. That is simply expensive even for the most basic of basic shit. As for deportation, that is already occurring now, and has been ramped up even under Obama's rule, to little notice apparently. The only further action I can see is the wall. Well, built it, fine. I hear the Mexicans are paying for it anyway, so great.
Anonymous P replied with this 6 years ago, 9 hours later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #1,010,992
@previous (Sheila LaBoof)
I'm glad you agree with normal people about deportations and building walls, and have decided to vote Republican.
What the Democrat candidates don't seem to understand is that pandering to far left loonies about opening the border and giving out "free" healthcare to incentivize illegal immigration is a terrible policy to try to convince Trump supporters to vote for them.
I'm glad you agree with normal people about deportations and building walls, and have decided to vote Republican.
What the Democrat candidates don't seem to understand is that pandering to far left loonies about opening the border and giving out "free" healthcare to incentivize illegal immigration is a terrible policy to try to convince Trump supporters to vote for them.
Sheila LaBoof replied with this 6 years ago, 4 hours later, 2 days after the original post[^] [v] #1,011,058
You are in a weird tixzy about far left loonies opening the border. Chill, not even a remote possibility among the Democratic party, which is on the whole no where near as far left as you've been led to believe.
Anonymous W joined in and replied with this 6 years ago, 25 minutes later, 2 days after the original post[^] [v] #1,011,075
Lead to believe it by the words that they say?
Anonymous X joined in and replied with this 6 years ago, 3 minutes later, 2 days after the original post[^] [v] #1,011,078
tfw the Democrats have candidates who propose yearly budgets of almost 4 Trillion dollars..
Trump Train 2020...Full speed ahead..
Trump Train 2020...Full speed ahead..
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