Topic: Why doesn't the North of England have a government?
Anonymous A started this discussion 6 years ago #88,231
Instead they're ruled by the south of England and the UK parliament.
The Scots, the Welsh, the Irish, have all stood tall and cried for their representation, and they've got it.
And what has become of the North in this 21st century. London and the South take the money, the investment and grow fat as Northern towns crumble away.
Now should come the time that the North reclaims its ancient right to self-governance by casting off that ancient crime by the House of Wessex and bringing the Northern Kingdom into the 21st century.
Long live the Northern Kingdom and all its people! Rise up, Northerners, and claim your land for your own!
The Scots, the Welsh, the Irish, have all stood tall and cried for their representation, and they've got it.
And what has become of the North in this 21st century. London and the South take the money, the investment and grow fat as Northern towns crumble away.
Now should come the time that the North reclaims its ancient right to self-governance by casting off that ancient crime by the House of Wessex and bringing the Northern Kingdom into the 21st century.
Long live the Northern Kingdom and all its people! Rise up, Northerners, and claim your land for your own!
tteh !MemesToDNA joined in and replied with this 6 years ago, 5 minutes later[^] [v] #1,009,343
Because everything north of Milton Keynes is a shithole. I'm sorry, but you know I'm right!
tteh !MemesToDNA double-posted this 6 years ago, 34 seconds later, 5 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #1,009,344
And I'm not even sure how I feel about Milton Keynes...
Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 6 years ago, 14 minutes later, 19 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #1,009,345
@1,009,343 (tteh !MemesToDNA)
With a new Northern Kingdom with a government in York, the North should be regenerated and prosperous once again!
With a new Northern Kingdom with a government in York, the North should be regenerated and prosperous once again!
Anonymous C joined in and replied with this 6 years ago, 14 minutes later, 34 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #1,009,353
@OP
> Now should come the time that the North reclaims its ancient right to self-governance by casting off that ancient crime by the House of Wessex and bringing the Northern Kingdom into the 21st century.
You twit, Wessex basically saved Northumbria from the Danes... twice:
Firstly Alfred the Great achieved a decisive victory over Guthrum at the battle of Edington.
Then, 76 years later, after the battle of Stainmore Eadred of Wessex became king because Jórvík (Scandinavian York) had collapsed (with the defeat of Erik Bloodaxe) and its territories were integrated into those of Bamburgh as new earldom of Northumbria... and everybody was perfectly fine with this because nobody wanted another Viking ruler (or possibly half Viking, i.e. Osulf).
> Now should come the time that the North reclaims its ancient right to self-governance by casting off that ancient crime by the House of Wessex and bringing the Northern Kingdom into the 21st century.
You twit, Wessex basically saved Northumbria from the Danes... twice:
Firstly Alfred the Great achieved a decisive victory over Guthrum at the battle of Edington.
Then, 76 years later, after the battle of Stainmore Eadred of Wessex became king because Jórvík (Scandinavian York) had collapsed (with the defeat of Erik Bloodaxe) and its territories were integrated into those of Bamburgh as new earldom of Northumbria... and everybody was perfectly fine with this because nobody wanted another Viking ruler (or possibly half Viking, i.e. Osulf).
tteh !MemesToDNA replied with this 6 years ago, 3 minutes later, 38 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #1,009,355
Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 6 years ago, 26 minutes later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #1,009,361
@1,009,353 (C)
Edington is not in the North and was a battle at the borders of Wessex with the Danelaw of East Anglia.
His grandson then claimed the throne by right of conquest, as I said.
We are now a thousand years later and the justification for the occupation of the North to protect it against another Norse king no longer applies.
We are not in danger of being reinvaded by Denmark and no longer require the confiscation of our ancestral right to self-governance.
Also the House of Wessex was itself overthrown by the so-called right of conquest of William the bastard. Illegitimate!
Edington is not in the North and was a battle at the borders of Wessex with the Danelaw of East Anglia.
His grandson then claimed the throne by right of conquest, as I said.
We are now a thousand years later and the justification for the occupation of the North to protect it against another Norse king no longer applies.
We are not in danger of being reinvaded by Denmark and no longer require the confiscation of our ancestral right to self-governance.
Also the House of Wessex was itself overthrown by the so-called right of conquest of William the bastard. Illegitimate!
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Anonymous D joined in and replied with this 6 years ago, 2 hours later, 3 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,009,381
@previous (A)
You sir are a fool. The Danes are many things, but trustworthy is not one of those. They are biding their time, rubbing their greasy little hands, just waiting for the English Army to leave North England for a minute. They would strike, pillage, rape all the men and fill the land with pigs.
Never trust a Dane. Ever.
You sir are a fool. The Danes are many things, but trustworthy is not one of those. They are biding their time, rubbing their greasy little hands, just waiting for the English Army to leave North England for a minute. They would strike, pillage, rape all the men and fill the land with pigs.
Never trust a Dane. Ever.
Syntax joined in and replied with this 6 years ago, 24 seconds later, 3 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,009,382
@1,009,355 (tteh !MemesToDNA)
IF UK cannot figure out how to Brexit or NOT - Why not just toss in the Towel and turn it all over to the Queen of England. Your funding her lavish lifestyle - Time to put her back to work.
IF UK cannot figure out how to Brexit or NOT - Why not just toss in the Towel and turn it all over to the Queen of England. Your funding her lavish lifestyle - Time to put her back to work.
Anonymous C replied with this 6 years ago, 34 minutes later, 3 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,009,395
@1,009,361 (A)
> Edington is not in the North and was a battle at the borders of Wessex with the Danelaw of East Anglia.
The battle took place there because that's how far Guthrum, the Danish king of the north, had invaded, you quarter-wit.
> His grandson then claimed the throne by right of conquest, as I said.
No, it was by default. Wessex was not that interested in governing the north, which is why Alfred formalized Danelaw.
> We are now a thousand years later...
> We are not in danger of being reinvaded by Denmark...
You were the one who brought up Wessex and their imagined "ancient crime"!
> Also the House of Wessex was itself overthrown by the so-called right of conquest of William the bastard. Illegitimate!
Your point?
> Edington is not in the North and was a battle at the borders of Wessex with the Danelaw of East Anglia.
The battle took place there because that's how far Guthrum, the Danish king of the north, had invaded, you quarter-wit.
> His grandson then claimed the throne by right of conquest, as I said.
No, it was by default. Wessex was not that interested in governing the north, which is why Alfred formalized Danelaw.
> We are now a thousand years later...
> We are not in danger of being reinvaded by Denmark...
You were the one who brought up Wessex and their imagined "ancient crime"!
> Also the House of Wessex was itself overthrown by the so-called right of conquest of William the bastard. Illegitimate!
Your point?
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Anonymous C double-posted this 6 years ago, 13 minutes later, 4 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,009,401
@1,009,361 (A)
> with the Danelaw of East Anglia.
You might be confused by the fact that East Anglia was awarded to Guthrum only after the battle and his & Alfred's treaty. Technically there was no king of Northumbria at that time, only a rabble led by Guthrum, who was basically trying to conquer the whole country.
> with the Danelaw of East Anglia.
You might be confused by the fact that East Anglia was awarded to Guthrum only after the battle and his & Alfred's treaty. Technically there was no king of Northumbria at that time, only a rabble led by Guthrum, who was basically trying to conquer the whole country.
Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 6 years ago, 3 minutes later, 4 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,009,403
Anon X-1 replied with this 6 years ago, 2 minutes later, 4 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,009,406
Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 6 years ago, 31 seconds later, 4 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,009,407
Fake anon !ZkUt8arUCU joined in and replied with this 6 years ago, 1 minute later, 4 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,009,409
Does anyone actually care about what smelly Danes did to illiterate pig farmers in the year 0 or whatever this is all about?
Anon X-1 replied with this 6 years ago, 4 minutes later, 4 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,009,412
Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 6 years ago, 2 minutes later, 4 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,009,414
@1,009,395 (C)
The British Parliament claims its sovereignty from the conquering of Athelstan and his absorption of the Kingdoms into Englaland.
The British Parliament claims its sovereignty from the conquering of Athelstan and his absorption of the Kingdoms into Englaland.
Anonymous C replied with this 6 years ago, 10 minutes later, 4 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,009,416
@previous (A)
So your real beef is with William of Normandy, not Wessex. In that case, why fight exclusively for Northumbria? Who is the rightful ruler of the other conquered kingdoms?
You should form a party along the lines of the SNP - Northumbrian National Party?
So your real beef is with William of Normandy, not Wessex. In that case, why fight exclusively for Northumbria? Who is the rightful ruler of the other conquered kingdoms?
You should form a party along the lines of the SNP - Northumbrian National Party?
Sheila LaBoof joined in and replied with this 6 years ago, 31 minutes later, 5 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,009,430
beacuase there fags
tteh !MemesToDNA replied with this 6 years ago, 14 minutes later, 5 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,009,437
Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 6 years ago, 13 minutes later, 5 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,009,441
@1,009,416 (C)
No, because William the Bastard only claimed the illegitimate throne of England, did not create the title by using force of arms.
And as for that, the answer is the Scots and the Cornish, both of whom were driven out and their lands occupied by Saxons.
No, because William the Bastard only claimed the illegitimate throne of England, did not create the title by using force of arms.
And as for that, the answer is the Scots and the Cornish, both of whom were driven out and their lands occupied by Saxons.
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Fake anon !ZkUt8arUCU replied with this 6 years ago, 1 minute later, 5 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,009,443
@previous (A)
Do you think if he had changed his name to William the Rightful Heir he could have not been known as a bastard? His main problem was branding imo.
Do you think if he had changed his name to William the Rightful Heir he could have not been known as a bastard? His main problem was branding imo.
tteh !MemesToDNA replied with this 6 years ago, 2 minutes later, 5 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,009,446
In summary, I think it's safe to say we're the conquerors. The strongest are always triumphant. :)
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Killer Lettuce? !HonkUK.BIE joined in and replied with this 6 years ago, 1 hour later, 7 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,009,485
I don't think there are any Northerners here, mate. Minichan's Brits (you aside) are all southerners. You should probably try other places to rally the Norfmen.
tteh !MemesToDNA replied with this 6 years ago, 1 minute later, 7 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,009,487
@previous (Killer Lettuce? !HonkUK.BIE)
Just don't you stray any north of Milton Keynes, bud. I've got my eye on you.
Just don't you stray any north of Milton Keynes, bud. I've got my eye on you.
Killer Lettuce? !HonkUK.BIE replied with this 6 years ago, 1 minute later, 7 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,009,489
@previous (tteh !MemesToDNA)
No, of course not. There's not even much worth going to beyond the Tamar anyway.
No, of course not. There's not even much worth going to beyond the Tamar anyway.
Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 6 years ago, 10 minutes later, 7 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,009,497
Anonymous I joined in and replied with this 6 years ago, 57 minutes later, 8 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,009,517
> We are not in danger of being reinvaded by Denmark
Wasn't that where the Angles and Saxons came from in the first place? The history of England is just a series of continental invasions. You guys are way overdue. Maybe if the Danes invaded again, then they could sort out this Brexit thing for you guys thing like sane people?
Wasn't that where the Angles and Saxons came from in the first place? The history of England is just a series of continental invasions. You guys are way overdue. Maybe if the Danes invaded again, then they could sort out this Brexit thing for you guys thing like sane people?
Anonymous C replied with this 6 years ago, 1 hour later, 9 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,009,542
@previous (I)
No, the Saxons came from Saxonia, which was on the north coast of Germany. The Angles also came from north Germany (Anglia). The term Anglo-Saxon was adopted to describe the Angles & Saxes who lived on the island as opposed to those who remained on the continent. I believe Alfred first used the term Angelcynn (hence English) to refer to the people of England in general.
No, the Saxons came from Saxonia, which was on the north coast of Germany. The Angles also came from north Germany (Anglia). The term Anglo-Saxon was adopted to describe the Angles & Saxes who lived on the island as opposed to those who remained on the continent. I believe Alfred first used the term Angelcynn (hence English) to refer to the people of England in general.
Anonymous C double-posted this 6 years ago, 4 minutes later, 10 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,009,545
@1,009,441 (A)
Yes, well at the end of the day the English are mostly German and Scandinavian. The true owners of the British Isles are the Celts.
Yes, well at the end of the day the English are mostly German and Scandinavian. The true owners of the British Isles are the Celts.
Anonymous I replied with this 6 years ago, 37 minutes later, 10 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,009,556
@1,009,542 (C)Oh. I see. That looks like a totally different area. Where were the borders of Germany back then? Was Angela Merkel running it?
Meta !Sober//iZs joined in and replied with this 6 years ago, 18 minutes later, 10 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,009,560
I am homosexual but will live my entire life refusing to admit it. ?
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Fake anon !ZkUt8arUCU replied with this 6 years ago, 1 hour later, 12 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,009,588
@previous (Meta !Sober//iZs)
More like anyone with a criminal history or fanatical religious beliefs tbh.
More like anyone with a criminal history or fanatical religious beliefs tbh.
Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 6 years ago, 6 hours later, 18 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,009,659
Anonymous K joined in and replied with this 6 years ago, 8 hours later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #1,009,718
Brexit