Topic: Why do leftists hate workers so much?
Anonymous A started this discussion 6 years ago #87,474
If they want to help workers, why do they take away working people's money and give it to criminals and layabouts? Something doesn't add up.
Ananthanarayanan M R joined in and replied with this 6 years ago, 1 minute later[^] [v] #1,000,936
the workers are the leftists u morum
Anonymous C joined in and replied with this 6 years ago, 23 seconds later, 1 minute after the original post[^] [v] #1,000,937
Cannot reconcile your question. Bert is right wing and refuses to work. Something doesn't add up.
Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 6 years ago, 1 minute later, 3 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #1,000,938
@1,000,936 (Ananthanarayanan M R)
So they're workers whom give other workers' money to people whom refuse to work? Wouldn't that make them class traitors?
So they're workers whom give other workers' money to people whom refuse to work? Wouldn't that make them class traitors?
Anonymous D joined in and replied with this 6 years ago, 18 minutes later, 21 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #1,000,956
@previous (A)
Are you trying to say that Socialists give money to those who refuse to work?
Consider the supermarket where shoplifting takes place, they call this "shrinkage" Dented cans and out of date meat-produce ends up included in "shrinkage".
There will always be people who are shiftless and lazy and one way or the other society is stuck with them. Left-Right, is stuck with the problem.
Are you trying to say that Socialists give money to those who refuse to work?
Consider the supermarket where shoplifting takes place, they call this "shrinkage" Dented cans and out of date meat-produce ends up included in "shrinkage".
There will always be people who are shiftless and lazy and one way or the other society is stuck with them. Left-Right, is stuck with the problem.
q. joined in and replied with this 6 years ago, 9 minutes later, 30 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #1,000,965
republicans are the ones trying to repeal the minimum wage and pay workers as little as possible, stupid.
Anonymous C replied with this 6 years ago, 5 minutes later, 36 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #1,000,967
@previous (q.)
To be fair it's all about being a conservative. To pay the minimum to achieve the maximum profit. Not at all stupid. There are smart Democrat business people that also run a business that way.
Those who wish to have large wages, simply need to educate themselves so they can. Or as with Trump, end up with inheritance.
To be fair it's all about being a conservative. To pay the minimum to achieve the maximum profit. Not at all stupid. There are smart Democrat business people that also run a business that way.
Those who wish to have large wages, simply need to educate themselves so they can. Or as with Trump, end up with inheritance.
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Kook !!rcSrAtaAC joined in and replied with this 6 years ago, 17 minutes later, 53 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #1,000,970
Anonymous G joined in and replied with this 6 years ago, 16 minutes later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #1,000,979
@previous (Kook !!rcSrAtaAC)
Which is one reason Trump was elected. Hope that changes but sad to say it's true.
Which is one reason Trump was elected. Hope that changes but sad to say it's true.
Killer Lettuce? !!iNo3FkiZx joined in and replied with this 6 years ago, 3 minutes later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #1,000,980
Loftists. People operating out of their lofts.
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Anonymous I joined in and replied with this 6 years ago, 5 minutes later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #1,000,983
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Anonymous I replied with this 6 years ago, 9 minutes later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #1,000,992
@previous (Killer Lettuce? !!iNo3FkiZx)
I fell off a while back, after volume 4 I think? I need to catch up on it.
I fell off a while back, after volume 4 I think? I need to catch up on it.
Killer Lettuce? !!iNo3FkiZx replied with this 6 years ago, 9 minutes later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #1,001,003
Anonymous I replied with this 6 years ago, 9 minutes later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #1,001,012
@previous (Killer Lettuce? !!iNo3FkiZx)
I've been meaning to get back into it, but yeah vol. 4 was really underwhelming. Has Neon Katt not been in the series at all since Vol.3?
I've been meaning to get back into it, but yeah vol. 4 was really underwhelming. Has Neon Katt not been in the series at all since Vol.3?
Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 6 years ago, 1 minute later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #1,001,015
@1,000,983 (I)@1,000,984 (Killer Lettuce? !!iNo3FkiZx)
@1,000,992 (I)
@1,001,003 (Killer Lettuce? !!iNo3FkiZx)
Stop talking about your shit cartoons in my thread, you fucking weebs.
Killer Lettuce? !!iNo3FkiZx replied with this 6 years ago, 2 minutes later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #1,001,016
@1,001,012 (I)
Nah. Since 5, actually, they've made a point of having fewer side characters so that the core group gets more focus. But something happens at the end of 6 that makes me hope Neon will be in 7!
Nah. Since 5, actually, they've made a point of having fewer side characters so that the core group gets more focus. But something happens at the end of 6 that makes me hope Neon will be in 7!
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Anonymous I replied with this 6 years ago, 17 seconds later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #1,001,017
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Anonymous I replied with this 6 years ago, 49 seconds later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #1,001,019
@1,001,016 (Killer Lettuce? !!iNo3FkiZx)
Ah, ok. As much fan art as she gets, I would have been surprised had they never brought her back.
Ah, ok. As much fan art as she gets, I would have been surprised had they never brought her back.
Ananthanarayanan M R replied with this 6 years ago, 44 minutes later, 2 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,001,042
Kook !!rcSrAtaAC replied with this 6 years ago, 52 seconds later, 2 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,001,044
Ananthanarayanan M R replied with this 6 years ago, 13 minutes later, 2 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,001,047
Anonymous J joined in and replied with this 6 years ago, 12 minutes later, 3 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,001,050
This thread made me nauseous.
Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 6 years ago, 13 minutes later, 3 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,001,056
Kook !!rcSrAtaAC replied with this 6 years ago, 49 minutes later, 4 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,001,074
Ananthanarayanan M R replied with this 6 years ago, 1 hour later, 5 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,001,110
Kook !!rcSrAtaAC replied with this 6 years ago, 28 minutes later, 6 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,001,111
Ananthanarayanan M R replied with this 6 years ago, 2 minutes later, 6 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,001,113
Kook !!rcSrAtaAC replied with this 6 years ago, 14 seconds later, 6 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,001,114
Google+ replied with this 6 years ago, 3 minutes later, 6 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,001,115
One can quick skim this for USA working class vs who they vote for.
https://www.citylab.com/life/2018/11/state-voting-patterns-occupational-class-data-politics/575047/
https://www.citylab.com/life/2018/11/state-voting-patterns-occupational-class-data-politics/575047/
Ananthanarayanan M R replied with this 6 years ago, 4 minutes later, 6 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,001,117
Fake anon !ZkUt8arUCU joined in and replied with this 6 years ago, 1 minute later, 6 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,001,118
How is increasing the social safety net bad for workers? I'm confused.
Kook !!rcSrAtaAC replied with this 6 years ago, 10 minutes later, 6 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,001,120
@1,001,117 (Ananthanarayanan M R)
I haven't heard of such statistics. I see leftists as liberal arts majors with jobs related to such. Also the entertainment industry
I haven't heard of such statistics. I see leftists as liberal arts majors with jobs related to such. Also the entertainment industry
Anonymous D replied with this 6 years ago, 2 minutes later, 6 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,001,121
@1,001,118 (Fake anon !ZkUt8arUCU)
It's not. Few are aware that there is a WIDE range on monthly payout's from Social Security. IF one waits to age 70 and worked as say an Engineer, then the monthly pay out is $4141/month = $49,692 year.
However The estimated average monthly benefit for "all retired workers" in 2019 is $1,461= $17,532/yr
Of course the problem with Social Security is that if that is all one has to live on - That requires one has to live in some kind of nasty place with not enough to eat much or cover car insurance, repairs etc.
And the major problem is they are running out of money and of course congress will probably have to cover that but betting they are NOT about to increase it because the National Debt is already so over the top.
It's not. Few are aware that there is a WIDE range on monthly payout's from Social Security. IF one waits to age 70 and worked as say an Engineer, then the monthly pay out is $4141/month = $49,692 year.
However The estimated average monthly benefit for "all retired workers" in 2019 is $1,461= $17,532/yr
Of course the problem with Social Security is that if that is all one has to live on - That requires one has to live in some kind of nasty place with not enough to eat much or cover car insurance, repairs etc.
And the major problem is they are running out of money and of course congress will probably have to cover that but betting they are NOT about to increase it because the National Debt is already so over the top.
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Ananthanarayanan M R replied with this 6 years ago, 5 minutes later, 6 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,001,122
Kook !!rcSrAtaAC replied with this 6 years ago, 5 minutes later, 6 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,001,123
Killer Lettuce? !!iNo3FkiZx replied with this 6 years ago, 4 minutes later, 7 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,001,124
@1,001,120 (Kook !!rcSrAtaAC)
What do you see conservatives as? Rich people? Hard workin' joes that do manual labour?
What do you see conservatives as? Rich people? Hard workin' joes that do manual labour?
Kook !!rcSrAtaAC replied with this 6 years ago, 13 minutes later, 7 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,001,130
Anonymous L joined in and replied with this 6 years ago, 41 minutes later, 7 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,001,137
@1,001,120 (Kook !!rcSrAtaAC)
Do you live in a right to work state? Because of those anti-union laws, lefties in skilled labor seem less obvious in some respects unless you're actively involved in community organizing or spaces where they congregate.
@1,001,122 (Ananthanarayanan M R)
I wish. Libs ≠ leftists.
Do you live in a right to work state? Because of those anti-union laws, lefties in skilled labor seem less obvious in some respects unless you're actively involved in community organizing or spaces where they congregate.
@1,001,122 (Ananthanarayanan M R)
I wish. Libs ≠ leftists.
Kook !!rcSrAtaAC replied with this 6 years ago, 2 minutes later, 7 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,001,138
Anonymous L replied with this 6 years ago, 10 minutes later, 8 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,001,141
@previous (Kook !!rcSrAtaAC)
Being an open lefty in those places is a good way to get fired, especially since the first amendment doesn't protect your job when it comes to your political views. I've met plenty of people that hide their power level in such states for this reason. Thankfully it's not like that everywhere.
Being an open lefty in those places is a good way to get fired, especially since the first amendment doesn't protect your job when it comes to your political views. I've met plenty of people that hide their power level in such states for this reason. Thankfully it's not like that everywhere.
Kook !!rcSrAtaAC replied with this 6 years ago, 14 minutes later, 8 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,001,146
Ananthanarayanan M R replied with this 6 years ago, 8 minutes later, 8 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,001,148
@1,001,123 (Kook !!rcSrAtaAC)
I made my assumption based on every piece of news I have ever heard and still remember and which is presumably easily found on the internet whilst your assumption is logically impossible
I made my assumption based on every piece of news I have ever heard and still remember and which is presumably easily found on the internet whilst your assumption is logically impossible
Fake anon !ZkUt8arUCU replied with this 6 years ago, 3 minutes later, 8 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,001,149
@1,001,146 (Kook !!rcSrAtaAC)
Higher pay, better working conditions, probably also harder to fire bad employees and a lot more "office politics".
Higher pay, better working conditions, probably also harder to fire bad employees and a lot more "office politics".
Kook !!rcSrAtaAC replied with this 6 years ago, 9 minutes later, 8 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,001,150
Kook !!rcSrAtaAC double-posted this 6 years ago, 24 seconds later, 8 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,001,151
Fake anon !ZkUt8arUCU replied with this 6 years ago, 4 minutes later, 8 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,001,154
@previous (Kook !!rcSrAtaAC)
That's a sizable part of it, yeah. Unions are like anything else, they can be run well or run poorly. They're not a panacea but I don't think it's a coincidence that the decline of organized labor has coincided with the rise in income and wealth inequality. It's hard for one person to convince a company that they're being underpaid because the boss will just fire them and hire someone more desperate for a job. If workers are unionized, they can strike and force the boss to the negotiating table for higher hourly wages or paid vacation days or whatever.
That's a sizable part of it, yeah. Unions are like anything else, they can be run well or run poorly. They're not a panacea but I don't think it's a coincidence that the decline of organized labor has coincided with the rise in income and wealth inequality. It's hard for one person to convince a company that they're being underpaid because the boss will just fire them and hire someone more desperate for a job. If workers are unionized, they can strike and force the boss to the negotiating table for higher hourly wages or paid vacation days or whatever.
Kook !!rcSrAtaAC replied with this 6 years ago, 28 minutes later, 9 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,001,157
Anonymous J replied with this 6 years ago, 12 minutes later, 9 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,001,163
Fake anon !ZkUt8arUCU replied with this 6 years ago, 16 minutes later, 9 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,001,166
@previous (J)
They absolutely can, that's why we have an 8 hour workday and the protections offered by the FLSA. Those weren't just gifted to workers by benevolent bosses.
They absolutely can, that's why we have an 8 hour workday and the protections offered by the FLSA. Those weren't just gifted to workers by benevolent bosses.
Mosquito Valentine⚡ joined in and replied with this 6 years ago, 1 minute later, 9 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,001,167
@1,001,120 (Kook !!rcSrAtaAC)
> I haven't heard of such statistics. I see leftists as liberal arts majors with jobs related to such. Also the entertainment industry
wtf are statistics
> I haven't heard of such statistics. I see leftists as liberal arts majors with jobs related to such. Also the entertainment industry
wtf are statistics
Anonymous J replied with this 6 years ago, 1 minute later, 9 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,001,168
Fake anon !ZkUt8arUCU replied with this 6 years ago, 2 minutes later, 9 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,001,169
@previous (J)
And if you want to improve life for workers today...you would do the same things that worked to improve life for workers before.
And if you want to improve life for workers today...you would do the same things that worked to improve life for workers before.
Anonymous N joined in and replied with this 6 years ago, 2 hours later, 11 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,001,207
You cannot subsidize irresponsibility and expect people to become more responsible.
Ananthanarayanan M R replied with this 6 years ago, 3 hours later, 15 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,001,226
@1,001,150 (Kook !!rcSrAtaAC)
Do you seriously consider both those assumptions equally valid? Are 50% of Americans liberal arts majors in the entertainment industry?
Do you seriously consider both those assumptions equally valid? Are 50% of Americans liberal arts majors in the entertainment industry?
Anonymous N replied with this 6 years ago, 5 minutes later, 15 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,001,227
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Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 6 years ago, 24 minutes later, 15 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,001,232
@1,001,207 (N)
Exactly. Leftists either don't understand this, or they wish to encourage irresponsible behavior.
Exactly. Leftists either don't understand this, or they wish to encourage irresponsible behavior.
Kook !!rcSrAtaAC replied with this 6 years ago, 3 hours later, 19 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,001,285
Kook !!rcSrAtaAC double-posted this 6 years ago, 46 seconds later, 19 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,001,288
@1,001,167 (Mosquito Valentine⚡)
Someone just posted some statistics that said most blue collar workers are right wing
Someone just posted some statistics that said most blue collar workers are right wing
Ananthanarayanan M R replied with this 6 years ago, 26 minutes later, 20 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,001,305
@1,001,285 (Kook !!rcSrAtaAC)
How else would you get a majority vote for a leftist candidate
@previous (Kook !!rcSrAtaAC)
Which in no way contradicts most leftists being working class
How else would you get a majority vote for a leftist candidate
@previous (Kook !!rcSrAtaAC)
Which in no way contradicts most leftists being working class
Kook !!rcSrAtaAC replied with this 6 years ago, 5 minutes later, 20 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,001,318
Google replied with this 6 years ago, 51 minutes later, 21 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,001,345
@1,001,288 (Kook !!rcSrAtaAC)
https://www.theguardian.com/society/2012/jun/05/why-working-class-people-vote-conservative
https://www.theguardian.com/society/2012/jun/05/why-working-class-people-vote-conservative
Kook !!rcSrAtaAC replied with this 6 years ago, 15 minutes later, 21 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,001,351
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Killer Lettuce? !!iNo3FkiZx replied with this 6 years ago, 18 minutes later, 22 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,001,386
Syntax replied with this 6 years ago, 4 minutes later, 22 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,001,389
@previous (Killer Lettuce? !!iNo3FkiZx)
I try I really do. So a quick question if I may. Back when you were in Cornwall and going to school. I assume you graduated and now have? Not trying to dox ya just want to know how your education has worked out for you.
I try I really do. So a quick question if I may. Back when you were in Cornwall and going to school. I assume you graduated and now have? Not trying to dox ya just want to know how your education has worked out for you.
Ananthanarayanan M R replied with this 6 years ago, 40 minutes later, 23 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,001,402
@1,001,367 (Kook !!rcSrAtaAC)
no i meant why did you post @1,000,970 (Kook !!rcSrAtaAC)
do you think i am not aware that most of the right wing are also working class?
no i meant why did you post @1,000,970 (Kook !!rcSrAtaAC)
do you think i am not aware that most of the right wing are also working class?
Ananthanarayanan M R double-posted this 6 years ago, 48 seconds later, 23 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,001,403
especially in ?samerica
Kook !!rcSrAtaAC replied with this 6 years ago, 2 minutes later, 23 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,001,404
Killer Lettuce? !!iNo3FkiZx replied with this 6 years ago, 1 minute later, 23 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,001,405
@1,001,389 (Syntax)
It's worked out okay, I think! I haven't used my psychology degree to get a psychology job, but it's opened some great doors for me. Right now I'm waiting to start a new job.
It's worked out okay, I think! I haven't used my psychology degree to get a psychology job, but it's opened some great doors for me. Right now I'm waiting to start a new job.
Ananthanarayanan M R replied with this 6 years ago, 1 minute later, 23 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,001,407
@1,001,404 (Kook !!rcSrAtaAC)
i dont see how. i was saying worker and leftist aren't mutually exclusive like OP seems to somehow think
i dont see how. i was saying worker and leftist aren't mutually exclusive like OP seems to somehow think
Syntax replied with this 6 years ago, 6 minutes later, 23 hours after the original post[^] [v] #1,001,409
@1,001,405 (Killer Lettuce? !!iNo3FkiZx)
Very cool. I am soon off to a meeting - I need to see how our Resident Socrates PhD candidate Fuck anon degrees is doing for his current work. For sure my degree which is related to my Teen Hobby sure has paid off. NoT always totally fun like the Hobby nor was my hobby always super fun cause I spent too much time trying stuff that was over my haid, but for sure I have learned great lessons from my Teen failures - Is funny to see how corporations I consult for continue to do the same fails I did as a Teen -
Very cool. I am soon off to a meeting - I need to see how our Resident Socrates PhD candidate Fuck anon degrees is doing for his current work. For sure my degree which is related to my Teen Hobby sure has paid off. NoT always totally fun like the Hobby nor was my hobby always super fun cause I spent too much time trying stuff that was over my haid, but for sure I have learned great lessons from my Teen failures - Is funny to see how corporations I consult for continue to do the same fails I did as a Teen -