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Topic: Governments turn tables by suing people who request public records

Anonymous A started this discussion 6 years ago #87,345

Governments turn tables by suing people who request public records

https://www.saukvalley.com/2017/09/17/governments-turn-tables-by-suing-people-who-request-public-records/ai25n1m/

beckyderp !pete4U4rOU joined in and replied with this 6 years ago, 22 minutes later[^] [v] #999,661

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Anonymous C joined in and replied with this 6 years ago, 34 seconds later, 23 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #999,662

> >The lawsuits generally ask judges to rule that the records being sought do not have to be divulged. They name the requesters as defendants but do not seek damage awards. Still, the recent trend has alarmed freedom-of-information advocates, who say it's becoming a new way for governments to hide information, delay disclosure and intimidate critics.

> >"This practice essentially says to a records requester, 'File a request at your peril,'" said University of Kansas journalism professor Jonathan Peters,


What peril?

beckyderp !pete4U4rOU replied with this 6 years ago, 1 minute later, 24 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #999,665

@previous (C)
getting sued

Anonymous C replied with this 6 years ago, 2 minutes later, 26 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #999,669

@previous (beckyderp !pete4U4rOU)


"They name the requesters as defendants but do not seek damage awards"


Because if they sought damages per se, they would be laughed out of court.

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chill dog !!81dzJNNYL joined in and replied with this 6 years ago, 21 minutes later, 48 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #999,686

@previous (C)
Legal fees for defending tho

beckyderp !pete4U4rOU replied with this 6 years ago, 7 minutes later, 55 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #999,691

@999,669 (C)
Yes, I'm familiar with declaratory judgment actions, thanks.

Getting named a defendant in a lawsuit is upsetting and stressful for people, even if there's no money judgmnent that can be had. The people still have to show up to court, hire an attorney, deal with months+ of court dates, discovery, depositions. It's abusive for governments to do this.

Anonymous E joined in and replied with this 6 years ago, 58 seconds later, 56 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #999,692

@previous (beckyderp !pete4U4rOU)
You're a legal bigshot. Do something about it.

beckyderp !pete4U4rOU replied with this 6 years ago, 49 seconds later, 57 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #999,694

@previous (E)
No that's Syntax and 10 myle gloria allred. thanks.

Anonymous E replied with this 6 years ago, 1 minute later, 58 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #999,696

@previous (beckyderp !pete4U4rOU)
Syntax is too busy surfing these days. You are our only hope.

Johnny Cockrun replied with this 6 years ago, 1 hour later, 2 hours after the original post[^] [v] #999,750

@999,691 (beckyderp !pete4U4rOU)
On what legal standing would such a suit be permitted to proceed beyond an initial hearing or two by a competent Judge?

beckyderp !pete4U4rOU replied with this 6 years ago, 15 minutes later, 2 hours after the original post[^] [v] #999,762

@previous (Johnny Cockrun)
On the basis that judges have no authority to dismiss lawsuits that are properly pleaded, bona fide legal disputes, until after the parties have had the opportunity to conduct discovery and present their evidence. Judges don't hold hearings over whether a lawsuit is mean or not and don't get to laugh anyone out of court because they're being poopyheads. Thanks.

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Anonymous F joined in and replied with this 6 years ago, 2 hours later, 5 hours after the original post[^] [v] #999,794

News from 2017.... Stop living in the past.

Anonymous G joined in and replied with this 6 years ago, 32 minutes later, 5 hours after the original post[^] [v] #999,801

The Trump government is suing babies. It's suing unborn babies too. That's why they're trying to stop abortions, they want to sue those babies.

Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 6 years ago, 3 hours later, 8 hours after the original post[^] [v] #999,877

If tyranny is so wonderful then why do people try to escape North Korea?

Anonymous H joined in and replied with this 6 years ago, 1 minute later, 8 hours after the original post[^] [v] #999,879

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Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 6 years ago, 3 minutes later, 8 hours after the original post[^] [v] #999,882

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