Topic: Holy Spirit saves German driver from a speeding fine.
Father Merrin !u5oFWxmY7U started this discussion 7 years ago #87,143
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-48431612
A speeding driver in Germany was saved from a €105 (£93) fine when a snow-white dove interceded on his behalf.
The driver was caught on speed cameras - but his identity was hidden by the bird's wings spread in flight.
"Because, if you confess with your mouth that Jesus is Lord and believe in your heart that God raised him from the dead, you will be saved" - Romans 10:9
A speeding driver in Germany was saved from a €105 (£93) fine when a snow-white dove interceded on his behalf.
The driver was caught on speed cameras - but his identity was hidden by the bird's wings spread in flight.
"Because, if you confess with your mouth that Jesus is Lord and believe in your heart that God raised him from the dead, you will be saved" - Romans 10:9
Anonymous B joined in and replied with this 7 years ago, 1 minute later[^] [v] #997,596
Father, why did the Romans write a part of the bible? Did they write it after their empire converted to Christianity?
Anonymous C joined in and replied with this 7 years ago, 5 minutes later, 7 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #997,600
Ionize tg2merrin
Father Merrin !u5oFWxmY7U (OP) replied with this 7 years ago, 17 seconds later, 7 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #997,601
@997,596 (B)
To be clear, when you say the Romans wrote "a part of the Bible", what are you referring to? Because the book of Romans which I quote here was written by the Apostle Paul to the Romans (Romans is the shortened form of The Epistle to the Romans). It wasn't written by them.
To be clear, when you say the Romans wrote "a part of the Bible", what are you referring to? Because the book of Romans which I quote here was written by the Apostle Paul to the Romans (Romans is the shortened form of The Epistle to the Romans). It wasn't written by them.
Father Merrin !u5oFWxmY7U (OP) double-posted this 7 years ago, 1 minute later, 8 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #997,603
@997,600 (C)
"I am weary with my sighing; Every night I make my bed swim, I dissolve my couch with my tears" - Psalm 6:6
"I am weary with my sighing; Every night I make my bed swim, I dissolve my couch with my tears" - Psalm 6:6
Anonymous B replied with this 7 years ago, 6 minutes later, 15 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #997,604
Fake anon !ZkUt8arUCU joined in and replied with this 7 years ago, 7 minutes later, 23 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #997,609
Luckily god is focused on the important things, like helping a speeding driver avoid a fine.
It is MAAM !Z/cf3vSlNE joined in and replied with this 7 years ago, 12 minutes later, 35 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #997,614
Father Merrin !u5oFWxmY7U (OP) replied with this 7 years ago, 4 minutes later, 40 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #997,615
@previous (It is MAAM !Z/cf3vSlNE)
Kindly furnish the group with the Bible passage that describes speeding as a "sin". Thank you.
Kindly furnish the group with the Bible passage that describes speeding as a "sin". Thank you.
It is MAAM !Z/cf3vSlNE replied with this 7 years ago, 8 minutes later, 48 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #997,617
@previous (Father Merrin !u5oFWxmY7U)
Romans 13: "All of you must yield to the government rulers. No one rules unless God has given him the power to rule, and no one rules now without that power from God. 2 So those who are against the government are really against what God has commanded. And they will bring punishment on themselves. 3 Those who do right do not have to fear the rulers; only those who do wrong fear them. Do you want to be unafraid of the rulers? Then do what is right, and they will praise you. 4 The ruler is God’s servant to help you. But if you do wrong, then be afraid. He has the power to punish; he is God’s servant to punish those who do wrong. 5 So you must yield to the government, not only because you might be punished, but because you know it is right.
6 This is also why you pay taxes. Rulers are working for God and give their time to their work. 7 Pay everyone, then, what you owe. If you owe any kind of tax, pay it. Show respect and honor to them all."
Romans 13: "All of you must yield to the government rulers. No one rules unless God has given him the power to rule, and no one rules now without that power from God. 2 So those who are against the government are really against what God has commanded. And they will bring punishment on themselves. 3 Those who do right do not have to fear the rulers; only those who do wrong fear them. Do you want to be unafraid of the rulers? Then do what is right, and they will praise you. 4 The ruler is God’s servant to help you. But if you do wrong, then be afraid. He has the power to punish; he is God’s servant to punish those who do wrong. 5 So you must yield to the government, not only because you might be punished, but because you know it is right.
6 This is also why you pay taxes. Rulers are working for God and give their time to their work. 7 Pay everyone, then, what you owe. If you owe any kind of tax, pay it. Show respect and honor to them all."
Anonymous F joined in and replied with this 7 years ago, 16 minutes later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #997,623
@previous (It is MAAM !Z/cf3vSlNE)
> Romans 13: "All of you must yield to the government rulers. No one rules unless God has given him the power to rule, and no one rules now without that power from God. 2 So those who are against the government are really against what God has commanded. And they will bring punishment on themselves. 3 Those who do right do not have to fear the rulers; only those who do wrong fear them. Do you want to be unafraid of the rulers? Then do what is right, and they will praise you. 4 The ruler is God’s servant to help you. But if you do wrong, then be afraid. He has the power to punish; he is God’s servant to punish those who do wrong. 5 So you must yield to the government, not only because you might be punished, but because you know it is right.
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> 6 This is also why you pay taxes. Rulers are working for God and give their time to their work. 7 Pay everyone, then, what you owe. If you owe any kind of tax, pay it. Show respect and honor to them all."
Where's the part about speeding?
> Romans 13: "All of you must yield to the government rulers. No one rules unless God has given him the power to rule, and no one rules now without that power from God. 2 So those who are against the government are really against what God has commanded. And they will bring punishment on themselves. 3 Those who do right do not have to fear the rulers; only those who do wrong fear them. Do you want to be unafraid of the rulers? Then do what is right, and they will praise you. 4 The ruler is God’s servant to help you. But if you do wrong, then be afraid. He has the power to punish; he is God’s servant to punish those who do wrong. 5 So you must yield to the government, not only because you might be punished, but because you know it is right.
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> 6 This is also why you pay taxes. Rulers are working for God and give their time to their work. 7 Pay everyone, then, what you owe. If you owe any kind of tax, pay it. Show respect and honor to them all."
Where's the part about speeding?
Fake anon !ZkUt8arUCU replied with this 7 years ago, 3 minutes later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #997,625
It is MAAM !Z/cf3vSlNE replied with this 7 years ago, 58 seconds later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #997,626
@997,623 (F)
Obey the government. The government says not to speed. Ergo, obeying the government means not speeding.
Obey the government. The government says not to speed. Ergo, obeying the government means not speeding.
Anonymous F replied with this 7 years ago, 2 minutes later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #997,629
@previous (It is MAAM !Z/cf3vSlNE)
It was the German police (government) that declined to press charges. Read the article.
It was the German police (government) that declined to press charges. Read the article.
It is MAAM !Z/cf3vSlNE replied with this 7 years ago, 7 minutes later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #997,630
@previous (F)
Even so, breaking the law is not obeying the government. The driver still broke the law.
Even so, breaking the law is not obeying the government. The driver still broke the law.
Anonymous F replied with this 7 years ago, 5 minutes later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #997,633
@previous (It is MAAM !Z/cf3vSlNE)
So the driver sinned and God intervened with a miracle to teach him to sin no more. It's one of the essences of Christianity. I don't get what's bothering you about this.
So the driver sinned and God intervened with a miracle to teach him to sin no more. It's one of the essences of Christianity. I don't get what's bothering you about this.
It is MAAM !Z/cf3vSlNE replied with this 7 years ago, 3 minutes later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #997,635
@previous (F)
No, the claim is that God aided him in sinning, which is blasphemy. He actually did the sin. He was already sinning. The claim is not that God stopped him from sinning, but that he was already sinning, and God intervened to aid him in not getting caught. Again, blasphemy.
No, the claim is that God aided him in sinning, which is blasphemy. He actually did the sin. He was already sinning. The claim is not that God stopped him from sinning, but that he was already sinning, and God intervened to aid him in not getting caught. Again, blasphemy.
Anonymous F replied with this 7 years ago, 7 minutes later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #997,636
@previous (It is MAAM !Z/cf3vSlNE)
> God intervened to aid him in not getting caught.
The guy was caught (and in a way that brings huge attention to the subject of speeding. After reading this story I was reminded to watch my own speeding today. This story has potentially saved lives). The police have his license number but decided not to prosecute.
To your other point, if God stopped people before they ever sinned we would live in a sinless world. Sometimes it's necessary for the person to sin before being taught the lesson. See the story of Mary Magdalene.
> God intervened to aid him in not getting caught.
The guy was caught (and in a way that brings huge attention to the subject of speeding. After reading this story I was reminded to watch my own speeding today. This story has potentially saved lives). The police have his license number but decided not to prosecute.
To your other point, if God stopped people before they ever sinned we would live in a sinless world. Sometimes it's necessary for the person to sin before being taught the lesson. See the story of Mary Magdalene.
It is MAAM !Z/cf3vSlNE replied with this 7 years ago, 5 minutes later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #997,639
@previous (F)
You are the one arguing that God intervened in his sin. This is like saying that a man got away with murder, and God helped the coverup. You cannot try to sophisticate your way out of this. It is a very simple argument. The claim is that God helped the sinner, while sinning, to avoid getting caught. That is blasphemy. It is a very simple argument to the logical mind.
You are the one arguing that God intervened in his sin. This is like saying that a man got away with murder, and God helped the coverup. You cannot try to sophisticate your way out of this. It is a very simple argument. The claim is that God helped the sinner, while sinning, to avoid getting caught. That is blasphemy. It is a very simple argument to the logical mind.
Anonymous F replied with this 7 years ago, 3 minutes later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #997,641
@previous (It is MAAM !Z/cf3vSlNE)
> You are the one arguing that God intervened in his sin. This is like saying that a man got away with murder, and God helped the coverup.
The driver did not get away with it and there was no cover-up. The police know who he is. He was caught on camera. They decided not to prosecute. Do you need me to write this in your native language for you?
> You are the one arguing that God intervened in his sin. This is like saying that a man got away with murder, and God helped the coverup.
The driver did not get away with it and there was no cover-up. The police know who he is. He was caught on camera. They decided not to prosecute. Do you need me to write this in your native language for you?
Anonymous G joined in and replied with this 7 years ago, 2 minutes later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #997,642
God does NOT condone abortions. So where is your God want everyone to obey their Government assertion now?
It is MAAM !Z/cf3vSlNE replied with this 7 years ago, 4 minutes later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #997,647
@997,641 (F)
The claim in this post is that the dove blocked his face so he could not be identified. I did not read the article. I am referring to this post. And the fact that you have resorted to personal insults proves that you have no argument. QED.
The claim in this post is that the dove blocked his face so he could not be identified. I did not read the article. I am referring to this post. And the fact that you have resorted to personal insults proves that you have no argument. QED.
It is MAAM !Z/cf3vSlNE double-posted this 7 years ago, 3 minutes later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #997,649
Anonymous F replied with this 7 years ago, 43 seconds later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #997,652
@997,647 (It is MAAM !Z/cf3vSlNE)
> I did not read the article.
It shows.
> And the fact that you have resorted to personal insults
Sensitive little lamb aren't you?
> I did not read the article.
It shows.
> And the fact that you have resorted to personal insults
Sensitive little lamb aren't you?
It is MAAM !Z/cf3vSlNE replied with this 7 years ago, 4 minutes later, 2 hours after the original post[^] [v] #997,657
@previous (F)
Personal insults again. Well, this debate is over, and I win. Thank you for your time.
Personal insults again. Well, this debate is over, and I win. Thank you for your time.
Anonymous F replied with this 7 years ago, 1 minute later, 2 hours after the original post[^] [v] #997,658
@997,649 (It is MAAM !Z/cf3vSlNE)
> Hey, take it up with the scriptures. I did not write them.
Nor read them apparently.
> Hey, take it up with the scriptures. I did not write them.
Nor read them apparently.
It is MAAM !Z/cf3vSlNE replied with this 7 years ago, 17 minutes later, 2 hours after the original post[^] [v] #997,668
@previous (F)
I have read the Bible multiple times, in English, French, Spanish, and the original Hebrew, Greek, and Aramaic. I would venture that I know more about the Bible, many times over, than everyone else here combined.
I have read the Bible multiple times, in English, French, Spanish, and the original Hebrew, Greek, and Aramaic. I would venture that I know more about the Bible, many times over, than everyone else here combined.
Anonymous F replied with this 7 years ago, 21 minutes later, 2 hours after the original post[^] [v] #997,678
@previous (It is MAAM !Z/cf3vSlNE)
> I have read the Bible multiple times, in English, French, Spanish, and the original Hebrew, Greek, and Aramaic. I would venture that I know more about the Bible, many times over, than everyone else here combined.
If you've read it many times in the original languages, what was the point of reading it in 3 different modern translations?
> I have read the Bible multiple times, in English, French, Spanish, and the original Hebrew, Greek, and Aramaic. I would venture that I know more about the Bible, many times over, than everyone else here combined.
If you've read it many times in the original languages, what was the point of reading it in 3 different modern translations?
It is MAAM !Z/cf3vSlNE replied with this 6 years ago, 2 hours later, 5 hours after the original post[^] [v] #997,729
Anonymous F replied with this 6 years ago, 7 minutes later, 5 hours after the original post[^] [v] #997,732
It is MAAM !Z/cf3vSlNE replied with this 6 years ago, 16 minutes later, 5 hours after the original post[^] [v] #997,738
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I cannot describe it. I have always found foreign languages pleasurable to learn and use. Maybe it is because they help you to see the world from a different perspective.
I cannot describe it. I have always found foreign languages pleasurable to learn and use. Maybe it is because they help you to see the world from a different perspective.
Anonymous H joined in and replied with this 6 years ago, 29 seconds later, 5 hours after the original post[^] [v] #997,739
Anonymous F replied with this 6 years ago, 13 minutes later, 5 hours after the original post[^] [v] #997,745
@997,738 (It is MAAM !Z/cf3vSlNE)
How did learning Koine Greek enable you to see the world from a different perspective? And what would you say are the main differences between the Koine passages in the Bible and their Spanish translations?
How did learning Koine Greek enable you to see the world from a different perspective? And what would you say are the main differences between the Koine passages in the Bible and their Spanish translations?
It is MAAM !Z/cf3vSlNE replied with this 6 years ago, 16 minutes later, 6 hours after the original post[^] [v] #997,754
@previous (F)
No offense, but it would take several thousand words to express my answers to those questions.
No offense, but it would take several thousand words to express my answers to those questions.
Father Merrin !u5oFWxmY7U (OP) replied with this 6 years ago, 1 hour later, 7 hours after the original post[^] [v] #997,822
@997,617 (It is MAAM !Z/cf3vSlNE)
> Romans 13: "All of you must yield to the government rulers. No one rules unless God has given him the power to rule, and no one rules now without that power from God. 2 So those who are against the government are really against what God has commanded. And they will bring punishment on themselves. 3 Those who do right do not have to fear the rulers; only those who do wrong fear them. Do you want to be unafraid of the rulers? Then do what is right, and they will praise you. 4 The ruler is God’s servant to help you. But if you do wrong, then be afraid. He has the power to punish; he is God’s servant to punish those who do wrong. 5 So you must yield to the government, not only because you might be punished, but because you know it is right.
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> 6 This is also why you pay taxes. Rulers are working for God and give their time to their work. 7 Pay everyone, then, what you owe. If you owe any kind of tax, pay it. Show respect and honor to them all."
"Render to Caesar the things that are Caesar's, and to God the things that are God's"
For a person who claims to have read 6 different versions of the Bible "multiple times" you don't seem to have a very firm grasp of the theology of it.I suggest that for your 7th run-through you focus on the distinction between human and divine law and how the concept of "sin" delineates them. Bless you child!
> Romans 13: "All of you must yield to the government rulers. No one rules unless God has given him the power to rule, and no one rules now without that power from God. 2 So those who are against the government are really against what God has commanded. And they will bring punishment on themselves. 3 Those who do right do not have to fear the rulers; only those who do wrong fear them. Do you want to be unafraid of the rulers? Then do what is right, and they will praise you. 4 The ruler is God’s servant to help you. But if you do wrong, then be afraid. He has the power to punish; he is God’s servant to punish those who do wrong. 5 So you must yield to the government, not only because you might be punished, but because you know it is right.
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> 6 This is also why you pay taxes. Rulers are working for God and give their time to their work. 7 Pay everyone, then, what you owe. If you owe any kind of tax, pay it. Show respect and honor to them all."
"Render to Caesar the things that are Caesar's, and to God the things that are God's"
For a person who claims to have read 6 different versions of the Bible "multiple times" you don't seem to have a very firm grasp of the theology of it.I suggest that for your 7th run-through you focus on the distinction between human and divine law and how the concept of "sin" delineates them. Bless you child!
Anonymous H replied with this 6 years ago, 1 minute later, 7 hours after the original post[^] [v] #997,823
@previous (Father Merrin !u5oFWxmY7U)
Why are you still flogging this dead shtick, long after you've been unmasked?
Why are you still flogging this dead shtick, long after you've been unmasked?
Father Merrin !u5oFWxmY7U (OP) replied with this 6 years ago, 2 minutes later, 7 hours after the original post[^] [v] #997,825
Anonymous H replied with this 6 years ago, 37 minutes later, 7 hours after the original post[^] [v] #997,835
@previous (Father Merrin !u5oFWxmY7U)
That isn't me, you dilusional kiddiefucker. Take your pedophilia meds.
That isn't me, you dilusional kiddiefucker. Take your pedophilia meds.
Anonymous H double-posted this 6 years ago, 1 minute later, 7 hours after the original post[^] [v] #997,838
Father Merrin !u5oFWxmY7U (OP) replied with this 6 years ago, 5 minutes later, 8 hours after the original post[^] [v] #997,847
@previous (H)
> Pic related is your pedophilia meds
Alas I cannot see it. I have disabled images. And I'd be careful of putting the words "pic" and "pedophilia" in the same post if I were you. You wouldn't want to open yourself to Freudian speculation now would you?
> Pic related is your pedophilia meds
Alas I cannot see it. I have disabled images. And I'd be careful of putting the words "pic" and "pedophilia" in the same post if I were you. You wouldn't want to open yourself to Freudian speculation now would you?
Anonymous H replied with this 6 years ago, 1 minute later, 8 hours after the original post[^] [v] #997,851
@previous (Father Merrin !u5oFWxmY7U)
You still haven't explained why you're still flogging this long-dead "Father Merrin" shtick. Care to provide an explanation?
You still haven't explained why you're still flogging this long-dead "Father Merrin" shtick. Care to provide an explanation?
Father Merrin !u5oFWxmY7U (OP) replied with this 6 years ago, 44 seconds later, 8 hours after the original post[^] [v] #997,853
Anonymous G replied with this 6 years ago, 53 seconds later, 8 hours after the original post[^] [v] #997,854
Anonymous H replied with this 6 years ago, 1 minute later, 8 hours after the original post[^] [v] #997,856
@997,853 (Father Merrin !u5oFWxmY7U)
Pull the other one, Josh. If you're a priest, Matt is a Cordon Bleu chef and Syntax is a secret agent.
Pull the other one, Josh. If you're a priest, Matt is a Cordon Bleu chef and Syntax is a secret agent.
