Anonymous A started this discussion 7 years ago#86,931
I've heard it asked differently and it's a good question. Impoverished communities probably wouldn't think twice about allowing a polluting factory to move in if it's going to provide jobs but is there more they wouldn't think twice about? I mean on one hand, poverty is terrible but on the other hand, maybe what people do to escape poverty is even more terrible. How would we know when we have crossed a line where the things we are trying to prevent is preferable to the things we do to prevent it?
Anonymous B joined in and replied with this 7 years ago, 1 hour later[^][v]#995,692
The Green New Deal is the answer. Take the train to Hawaii!
Sheila LaBoof joined in and replied with this 7 years ago, 8 hours later, 9 hours after the original post[^][v]#995,782
why assume that a factory is inherently polluting? things are a little more advanced than in the 1890s, thanks to people giving a shit. whether a factory comes to a place these days has a lot more to do with who owns the company, where are their headquarters, what value do they place on having something made in a particular place versus, say, another area that lures them with money of one kind or another, or outsource completely to another company in another country.
q. joined in and replied with this 7 years ago, 48 minutes later, 10 hours after the original post[^][v]#995,798
governments should value ppl, not jobs
Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 7 years ago, 9 hours later, 19 hours after the original post[^][v]#995,876
We were assuming this about this one particular hypothetical factory for the sake of... simplicity, i guess. I don't know about the other part of your post though, because the way I imagine it, there's a lot of factories that would love to be able to go to certain places in need of jobs but they don't go there because of the people who already have jobs and their opinions about said certain factories.
> We were assuming this about this one particular hypothetical factory for the sake of... simplicity, i guess. I don't know about the other part of your post though, because the way I imagine it, there's a lot of factories that would love to be able to go to certain places in need of jobs but they don't go there because of the people who already have jobs and their opinions about said certain factories.
I don't know of any examples. Sometimes you hear of "not in my backyard" about a waste facility, wind tower, or poorhouse I suppose.
Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 7 years ago, 45 minutes later, 21 hours after the original post[^][v]#995,882
What about the "rethoric" then, i suppose? The rethoric about how China hasn't just been attracting business because of a cheap labor but also because of the relaxed regulations?
Anonymous F joined in and replied with this 7 years ago, 23 minutes later, 21 hours after the original post[^][v]#995,884
Maybe it ain't so black and white though, sometimes the regulations keep us safe from harm yet ALSO it might be unreasonable at times, removing opportunity where it's wanted.
Anonymous G joined in and replied with this 7 years ago, 4 hours later, 1 day after the original post[^][v]#995,901
Sheila LaBoof replied with this 7 years ago, 1 hour later, 1 day after the original post[^][v]#995,973
@995,889 (A)
well there was a town some years ago whose corrupt mayor and council jerked around with zoning laws that made things difficult for one man so much that he spent several months modifying his bulldozer into a tank, and then drove around town, smashing through city hall and the mayor's house. the man deserves to be in the legends as much as Paul Bunyan and Casey Jones.
Sheila LaBoof replied with this 7 years ago, 21 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^][v]#995,982
@previous (I)
Also the name of a wonderful band from Wisconsin, who got the name from a TV movie about a haunted bulldozer, which was an adaption of a story by a writer named Theodore Sturgeon, who wrote a book called The Cosmic Rape.