Topic: I had my sperm frozen before gender reassignment surgery and I was just told it was thrown out

Anonymous A started this discussion 7 years ago #86,600

I'm a MtF transgender and I had my sperm frozen at an early age before taking hormones and the subsequent surgeries. Now at age 28 I am very comfortable with my life, married to an amazing man and we are planning to have a family (my biggest dream since early childhood). It was our plan to use a surrogate mother and have her carry our 'twins', one of which would be mine biologically and the other my husbands'. So we went to the clinic that stored my sperm and they told me, after I inquired about the possibilities, that my sperm was 'thrown out' last year. Or that it was possibly misplaced or damaged. The story was vague. I was shocked, outraged and completely broke down on my way home... I didn't know what to say or do. But this really messed me up bad and throws my future plans in disarray. I'm heartbroken and I want to sue. Can I?

Edit location: Atlanta, Georgia

Anonymous B joined in and replied with this 7 years ago, 3 minutes later[^] [v] #992,203

I have read it is possible to produce more sperm, but you will have to go off hormones and t-blockers for at least six months. Not exactly an ideal situation.

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Sheila LaBoof joined in and replied with this 7 years ago, 14 minutes later, 18 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #992,207

some bitch thought it was yoghurt

Anonymous D joined in and replied with this 7 years ago, 52 seconds later, 19 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #992,208

OP
Massive number of Orphans that need adoption. Considering that your genes are somewhat not so much so good, please consider adoption.

Dino Dan !!+8C/QO3OQ replied with this 7 years ago, 4 minutes later, 23 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #992,209

@previous (D)

Seriously. KYS, Syntax.

Anonymous E joined in and replied with this 7 years ago, 5 minutes later, 29 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #992,210

@previous (Dino Dan !!+8C/QO3OQ)
> mad

Dino Dan !!+8C/QO3OQ replied with this 7 years ago, 1 minute later, 30 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #992,212

@previous (E)

At ignorance, I can not deny this.

Anonymous F joined in and replied with this 7 years ago, 2 minutes later, 32 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #992,216

@previous (Dino Dan !!+8C/QO3OQ)
Apparently you do not believe in freedom of expression or opinions. You must live in one of those gulag countries.

Dino Dan !!+8C/QO3OQ replied with this 7 years ago, 1 minute later, 34 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #992,219

@previous (F)

Opinions have no meaning in the face of facts. Thanks.

Anonymous G joined in and replied with this 7 years ago, 5 minutes later, 40 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #992,221

@previous (Dino Dan !!+8C/QO3OQ)
You must have been triggered by the MtF. Are you one of those special snowflakes.
Man up please.

Dino Dan !!+8C/QO3OQ replied with this 7 years ago, 1 minute later, 42 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #992,222

@previous (G)

I am one of those "equality for all" speshuu snowflakes.

Anonymous G replied with this 7 years ago, 4 minutes later, 47 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #992,224

@previous (Dino Dan !!+8C/QO3OQ)
> "equality for all"
Bullshit. If that is in fact Syntax...
> Seriously. KYS, Syntax.

You have your right to your opinion, allow others to have theirs.

Dino Dan !!+8C/QO3OQ replied with this 7 years ago, 2 minutes later, 49 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #992,226

@previous (G)

Not if his opinion is against hard fact, then it is just a lie. Thanks.

Anonymous H joined in and replied with this 7 years ago, 2 minutes later, 51 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #992,227

@previous (Dino Dan !!+8C/QO3OQ)
How far along are you in your transition?
Your text speak is that of a virgin.

Dino Dan !!+8C/QO3OQ replied with this 7 years ago, 1 minute later, 53 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #992,228

@previous (H)

Not transitioning, also not a virgin. Keep hurling meaningless insults, tho.

Anonymous H replied with this 7 years ago, 3 minutes later, 56 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #992,229

@previous (Dino Dan !!+8C/QO3OQ)
I was not trying to insult you.

Dino Dan !!+8C/QO3OQ replied with this 7 years ago, 45 seconds later, 56 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #992,230

@previous (H)

I am not insulted, no worries.

Anonymous F replied with this 7 years ago, 4 minutes later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #992,231

@previous (Dino Dan !!+8C/QO3OQ)
Your birth certificate is an apology letter from the condom factory.

Dino Dan !!+8C/QO3OQ replied with this 7 years ago, 2 minutes later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #992,232

@previous (F)

You seem a touch upset.

Anonymous I joined in and replied with this 7 years ago, 8 minutes later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #992,235

@992,216 (F)
He lives in Louisiana. It might as well be a third world shithole.

Anonymous F replied with this 7 years ago, 5 minutes later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #992,236

@previous (I)
I should have expected that. Thanks.

Anonymous B replied with this 7 years ago, 5 minutes later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #992,239

@992,235 (I)
@previous (F)

> Everyone is "Matt". Whomever that is.

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Kook !!rcSrAtaAC joined in and replied with this 7 years ago, 21 minutes later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #992,247

@992,219 (Dino Dan !!+8C/QO3OQ)
What makes something count as being bad genes? Having a birth defect that increases your chances of suicide by 40% seems like bad genes

Dino Dan !!+8C/QO3OQ replied with this 7 years ago, 8 minutes later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #992,252

@previous (Kook !!rcSrAtaAC)

That does make sense. I was thinking more along the lines of genetic illness. Of which, transgenderism has no chance of being passed on genetically, it is caused randomly, in anybody, by over-exposer to certain hormones en utero. It can literally happen to anybody, regardless of genetic background. I do not support homosexual males who choose to be trans, but people born with the disposition have no choice.

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Kook !!rcSrAtaAC replied with this 7 years ago, 25 minutes later, 2 hours after the original post[^] [v] #992,260

@previous (Dino Dan !!+8C/QO3OQ)
I also agree that they have no choice

Dino Dan !!+8C/QO3OQ replied with this 7 years ago, 3 minutes later, 2 hours after the original post[^] [v] #992,261

@previous (Kook !!rcSrAtaAC)

That is why I like you, Kook. Your reasoning is based in knowledge, and not opinion.

Kook !!rcSrAtaAC replied with this 7 years ago, 2 minutes later, 2 hours after the original post[^] [v] #992,262

@previous (Dino Dan !!+8C/QO3OQ)
I believe in a lot of nonsense, trust me

Dino Dan !!+8C/QO3OQ replied with this 7 years ago, 2 seconds later, 2 hours after the original post[^] [v] #992,263

@OP

Also, disregard my post, that is for somebody who has not had reassignment surgery.

Dino Dan !!+8C/QO3OQ double-posted this 7 years ago, 48 minutes later, 3 hours after the original post[^] [v] #992,270

@992,262 (Kook !!rcSrAtaAC)

Meh, you're only human. I believed in bananadine for a long time.

Bliss !g/Q.qpMTNc joined in and replied with this 7 years ago, 48 minutes later, 4 hours after the original post[^] [v] #992,276

@OP

> I'm a MtF transgender and I had my sperm frozen at an early age before taking hormones and the subsequent surgeries. Now at age 28 I am very comfortable with my life, married to an amazing man and we are planning to have a family (my biggest dream since early childhood). It was our plan to use a surrogate mother and have her carry our 'twins', one of which would be mine biologically and the other my husbands'. So we went to the clinic that stored my sperm and they told me, after I inquired about the possibilities, that my sperm was 'thrown out' last year. Or that it was possibly misplaced or damaged. The story was vague. I was shocked, outraged and completely broke down on my way home... I didn't know what to say or do. But this really messed me up bad and throws my future plans in disarray. I'm heartbroken and I want to sue. Can I?
>
> Edit location: Atlanta, Georgia

To you're question, probably..
But morally? What is wrong with you? You CHOSE to transition, why don't you blame yourself here? You have transitioned to something you will never be & in the process perverting yourself of evil. God may well Sue you, how ungrateful can you be to deny the normality and perfect 'you' that God made you to become an unacceptable and unnatural 'you' who you will never be? Understand?
You was granted the gift of life and want to blame someone else for you're actions.
Also there is the fact of the very unnatural process of frozen sperm and getting involved an unnatural woman to do you're role in life. The dysfunctional family setting the child would be brought into is hardly fair... but it's what you want to do isn't it? Because you are a selfish person.
I wish you luck in finding the strength to ask for forgiveness & to truly live your life how God planned you too.

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Dino Dan !!+8C/QO3OQ replied with this 7 years ago, 7 minutes later, 4 hours after the original post[^] [v] #992,277

@previous (Bliss !g/Q.qpMTNc)

Need some help off that high horse?

Anonymous L joined in and replied with this 7 years ago, 58 minutes later, 5 hours after the original post[^] [v] #992,286

@992,276 (Bliss !g/Q.qpMTNc)
> MtF
> getting involved an unnatural woman to do you're role in life

That has a nice ring to it. Don't have a clue what a make believe God has to do with the rest of this.

Ananthanarayanan M R joined in and replied with this 7 years ago, 4 hours later, 9 hours after the original post[^] [v] #992,366

Visit one of the law libraries in town and ask the librarian to help you find a reference set called "American Law Reports" (which they may know better as "ALR"). Article 8 in volume 16 of the 7th series of ALR is an article called "Liability of cryobanks or fertility clinics for negligence and other actions related to frozen sperm or embryos". Go ahead and photocopy it or scan it; that's a set that smaller lawyers you might consult won't have in their private libraries. The law librarian will be used to seeing that citation as "16 ALR7th Art 8.". You might call the library in advance to confirm that they own that set. Reading that may give you a sense of what courts have done when faced with a dispute similar to yours. Understand that this will vary a lot according to state law, so that a case from, say, California, will have less predictive value for your situation than a case that's actually from Georgia. The articles/annotations typically start with the full text of a single representative case, followed by an extensive discussion of the finer points of relevant law state by state, with references to other cases.

You will certainly want to engage a lawyer to navigate this situation; this is way beyond do-it-yourself territory.

EDIT to add - there will be a "pocket part" tucked in the back cover of the volume; it looks kinda like a small paperback book. It will have additional information from cases that were decided after the hardbound volume was printed. Be sure to also copy/scan the relevant portion of the pocket part.

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Research Assistant II replied with this 7 years ago, 4 minutes later, 9 hours after the original post[^] [v] #992,371

@previous (Ananthanarayanan M R)
Topic is CopyPasta from Reddit.
https://www.reddit.com/r/legaladvice/comments/bleyjx/i_had_my_sperm_frozen_before_gender_reassignment/

Anonymous N joined in and replied with this 7 years ago, 8 hours later, 18 hours after the original post[^] [v] #992,470

@previous (Research Assistant II)
https://www.reddit.com/r/relationship_advice/comments/blf63q/my_f28_husband_m42_wants_to_leave_me_because_we/

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