Topic: when you google a british english word or phrase and it says "DATED" or "ARCHAIC"
tteh !MemesToDNA started this discussion 7 years ago #86,524
Killer Lettuce? !!iNo3FkiZx joined in and replied with this 7 years ago, 26 minutes later[^] [v] #991,196
I understand your feelings. Lately Firefox and Word have been trying to make me put "z"s where they aren't needed. I don't tolerate their bullshit, add to dictionary every time.
tteh !MemesToDNA (OP) replied with this 7 years ago, 7 minutes later, 33 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #991,200
@previous (Killer Lettuce? !!iNo3FkiZx)
Check your FF settings, in case it's giving you an American English dictionary! It's the first thing I change when I get US English software randomly.
Check your FF settings, in case it's giving you an American English dictionary! It's the first thing I change when I get US English software randomly.
Killer Lettuce? !!iNo3FkiZx replied with this 7 years ago, 2 minutes later, 36 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #991,202
@previous (tteh !MemesToDNA)
I've definitely got my FF spellcheck set to British English. Might be a bug. But by this point I've added to dictionary enough stuff that it doesn't often matter.
I've definitely got my FF spellcheck set to British English. Might be a bug. But by this point I've added to dictionary enough stuff that it doesn't often matter.
tteh !MemesToDNA (OP) replied with this 7 years ago, 5 minutes later, 41 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #991,206
@previous (Killer Lettuce? !!iNo3FkiZx)
Ah, weird. I've had it fail to recognise some BrE words too though, probably just the obscurer ones. I personally blame Israel.
Ah, weird. I've had it fail to recognise some BrE words too though, probably just the obscurer ones. I personally blame Israel.
Meta !Sober//iZs joined in and replied with this 7 years ago, 1 hour later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #991,226
@991,196 (Killer Lettuce? !!iNo3FkiZx)
@991,200 (tteh !MemesToDNA)
-ize is valid (albeit uncommon) British English: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oxford_spelling
@991,200 (tteh !MemesToDNA)
-ize is valid (albeit uncommon) British English: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oxford_spelling
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tteh !MemesToDNA (OP) replied with this 7 years ago, 59 seconds later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #991,227
tteh !MemesToDNA (OP) double-posted this 7 years ago, 23 seconds later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #991,228
Meta !Sober//iZs replied with this 7 years ago, 4 minutes later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #991,229
@991,227 (tteh !MemesToDNA)
I'm a huge fan of the Oxford comma, too!
I think the British have the right idea by putting punctuation outside of the quotation marks (unless said punctuation is part of the quote). I do this myself even though it's considered "wrong" in American English.
I don't like the needless "u" in color/flavor/honor, etc. Also "centre" is retarded. American English is better with this because the spelling of these words is closer to the pronunciation.
As for -ise/-ize I think it could go either way and I'd say both are acceptable.
I'm a huge fan of the Oxford comma, too!
I think the British have the right idea by putting punctuation outside of the quotation marks (unless said punctuation is part of the quote). I do this myself even though it's considered "wrong" in American English.
I don't like the needless "u" in color/flavor/honor, etc. Also "centre" is retarded. American English is better with this because the spelling of these words is closer to the pronunciation.
As for -ise/-ize I think it could go either way and I'd say both are acceptable.
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tteh !MemesToDNA (OP) replied with this 7 years ago, 3 minutes later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #991,230
@previous (Meta !Sober//iZs)
You have no idea how much respect I have instantly gained for you for saying that about punctuation outside quotations! :') Seriously. Everything else (colour/color, tyre/tire, -ise/-ize) is just preference, but the quotation thing I would do regardless of what flavour of English it was -- it just makes sense. Fake anon also does it! I think it can be acceptable in US English though. I once read it's often used in academia in America.
FWIW I can appreciate paed -> ped, hypoglycaemia -> hypoglycemia, diarrhoea -> diarrhea, etc.
You have no idea how much respect I have instantly gained for you for saying that about punctuation outside quotations! :') Seriously. Everything else (colour/color, tyre/tire, -ise/-ize) is just preference, but the quotation thing I would do regardless of what flavour of English it was -- it just makes sense. Fake anon also does it! I think it can be acceptable in US English though. I once read it's often used in academia in America.
FWIW I can appreciate paed -> ped, hypoglycaemia -> hypoglycemia, diarrhoea -> diarrhea, etc.
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Kook !!rcSrAtaAC joined in and replied with this 7 years ago, 5 minutes later, 2 hours after the original post[^] [v] #991,232
@991,229 (Meta !Sober//iZs)
I agree with all of this and had always used punctuation outside of quotation marks in this manner.
I agree with all of this and had always used punctuation outside of quotation marks in this manner.
Meta !Sober//iZs replied with this 7 years ago, 31 minutes later, 2 hours after the original post[^] [v] #991,246
@991,230 (tteh !MemesToDNA)
Oh the other thing is 24 hour time (though that's more of an "everyone but the US" thing than a British one)!!!! I love it and I've always set anything I can to 24 hour time. I fucking HATE "AM & PM". ?
Oh the other thing is 24 hour time (though that's more of an "everyone but the US" thing than a British one)!!!! I love it and I've always set anything I can to 24 hour time. I fucking HATE "AM & PM". ?
Anonymous E joined in and replied with this 7 years ago, 8 minutes later, 2 hours after the original post[^] [v] #991,248
Hey, asunder is considered archaic, I still use asunder. What's up with that?!
Anonymous F joined in and replied with this 7 years ago, 2 hours later, 5 hours after the original post[^] [v] #991,269
@991,200 (tteh !MemesToDNA)
@991,196 (Killer Lettuce? !!iNo3FkiZx)
Funny story about this... I've been using GNU/Linux in some incarnation or another for the last two decades as my primary OS on my home machine. This meant that I was loading stuff compiled by people in South Africa, Australia, or wherever. For years, every time I would run an update it would somehow reset my US English to UK English. I've just grown used to seeing the dictionary put a red, squiggly underline on words where I use an "z" in stead of a "s" or a "u" in words I wouldn't normally put a "u" in, being from the US. I tried changing it for a while, but it would always reset somehow whenever I updated. It's like it has been subtly nudging me to stop using American English all these years.
@991,196 (Killer Lettuce? !!iNo3FkiZx)
Funny story about this... I've been using GNU/Linux in some incarnation or another for the last two decades as my primary OS on my home machine. This meant that I was loading stuff compiled by people in South Africa, Australia, or wherever. For years, every time I would run an update it would somehow reset my US English to UK English. I've just grown used to seeing the dictionary put a red, squiggly underline on words where I use an "z" in stead of a "s" or a "u" in words I wouldn't normally put a "u" in, being from the US. I tried changing it for a while, but it would always reset somehow whenever I updated. It's like it has been subtly nudging me to stop using American English all these years.
Anonymous G joined in and replied with this 7 years ago, 1 hour later, 6 hours after the original post[^] [v] #991,273
Anonymous H joined in and replied with this 7 years ago, 19 hours later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #991,381
@OP
> Always do your very best to write "perfect" texts. You are not expected to write a novel or any kind of advanced English, really, as long as the stuff you do write is correct in terms of grammar, spelling and punctuation. If you don't know how to use fancy punctuation, just write simple sentences! Incorrect spelling is "unforgivable" due to spell checking, but grammar is trickier. Try to keep things "on your level" a simple but correct text is better than an advanced text that is incorrect. If you are not a native English speaker and you haven't received proper education, but it is obvious that you try your very best to form English sentences, your post will be accepted. Please mention this, though. Slang and smileys are OK. So-called "textspeak" or "Internet English" is not.
> Always do your very best to write "perfect" texts. You are not expected to write a novel or any kind of advanced English, really, as long as the stuff you do write is correct in terms of grammar, spelling and punctuation. If you don't know how to use fancy punctuation, just write simple sentences! Incorrect spelling is "unforgivable" due to spell checking, but grammar is trickier. Try to keep things "on your level" a simple but correct text is better than an advanced text that is incorrect. If you are not a native English speaker and you haven't received proper education, but it is obvious that you try your very best to form English sentences, your post will be accepted. Please mention this, though. Slang and smileys are OK. So-called "textspeak" or "Internet English" is not.