Topic: Kook, how many melatonins do I need?
Anonymous A started this discussion 7 years ago #86,302
I'm having trouble falling asleep and staying asleep. Have never used melatonin before.Kate Bush joined in and replied with this 7 years ago, 4 minutes later[^] [v] #988,456
Follow the instructions on the bottle.
Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 7 years ago, 3 minutes later, 8 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #988,457
@previous (Kate Bush)
I did. But melatonin dosing varies from condition to condition. The supplement I got contains 3mg, which is the low end of dosing for both of these conditions. So, hopefully it is enough. I really just want to sleep well.
I did. But melatonin dosing varies from condition to condition. The supplement I got contains 3mg, which is the low end of dosing for both of these conditions. So, hopefully it is enough. I really just want to sleep well.
Anonymous B replied with this 7 years ago, 1 minute later, 9 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #988,458
@previous (A)
> I did. But melatonin dosing varies from condition to condition. The supplement I got contains 3mg, which is the low end of dosing for both of these conditions. So, hopefully it is enough. I really just want to sleep well.
Just take twice the recommended dosage unless there are adverse side effects.
> I did. But melatonin dosing varies from condition to condition. The supplement I got contains 3mg, which is the low end of dosing for both of these conditions. So, hopefully it is enough. I really just want to sleep well.
Just take twice the recommended dosage unless there are adverse side effects.
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Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 7 years ago, 1 minute later, 10 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #988,459
Kook !!rcSrAtaAC joined in and replied with this 7 years ago, 1 minute later, 12 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #988,460
I wouldn't overtake because too much will givw you fucked up nightmares. Can you take one melatonin and one benedryl?
No more than 5mg
No more than 5mg
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Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 7 years ago, 1 minute later, 13 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #988,463
Kook !!rcSrAtaAC replied with this 7 years ago, 1 minute later, 15 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #988,466
Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 7 years ago, 1 minute later, 17 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #988,467
Kook !!rcSrAtaAC replied with this 7 years ago, 36 minutes later, 54 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #988,479
Anonymous D joined in and replied with this 7 years ago, 4 minutes later, 58 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #988,481
Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 7 years ago, 4 minutes later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #988,482
@988,479 (Kook !!rcSrAtaAC)
I took 25, even though 50 is the sleep-aid dosage. 50 makes me sleep for extended periods of time, tho.
I took 25, even though 50 is the sleep-aid dosage. 50 makes me sleep for extended periods of time, tho.
Meta !Sober//iZs joined in and replied with this 7 years ago, 15 minutes later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #988,484
Apparently people have melatonin dosage all wrong and what you need is 0.3mg, not 3.0mg
https://slatestarcodex.com/2018/07/10/melatonin-much-more-than-you-wanted-to-know/
https://slatestarcodex.com/2018/07/10/melatonin-much-more-than-you-wanted-to-know/
Anonymous D replied with this 7 years ago, 12 minutes later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #988,488
@previous (Meta !Sober//iZs)
Take, like 9g of melatonin! It should help with sleep! Except it won't unless you do some things during the day...
Take, like 9g of melatonin! It should help with sleep! Except it won't unless you do some things during the day...
Ben Johnson joined in and replied with this 7 years ago, 14 minutes later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #988,489
Anonymous D replied with this 7 years ago, 13 minutes later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #988,494
@previous (Ben Johnson)
I would agree. Antihistamines make people way droswy.
I would agree. Antihistamines make people way droswy.
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Kook !!rcSrAtaAC replied with this 7 years ago, 9 hours later, 11 hours after the original post[^] [v] #988,573
Anonymous G joined in and replied with this 7 years ago, 1 hour later, 12 hours after the original post[^] [v] #988,591
I find that 100 mills of benadryl helps me become drowsy..
Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 7 years ago, 55 seconds later, 12 hours after the original post[^] [v] #988,592
Anonymous G replied with this 7 years ago, 50 seconds later, 12 hours after the original post[^] [v] #988,593
@988,573 (Kook !!rcSrAtaAC)
Do you take off all of your clothes and step underneath the hot steaming water naked?
Do you take off all of your clothes and step underneath the hot steaming water naked?
Fake anon !ZkUt8arUCU joined in and replied with this 7 years ago, 2 minutes later, 13 hours after the original post[^] [v] #988,597
Kook !!rcSrAtaAC replied with this 7 years ago, 6 minutes later, 13 hours after the original post[^] [v] #988,602
Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 7 years ago, 44 seconds later, 13 hours after the original post[^] [v] #988,604
@988,597 (Fake anon !ZkUt8arUCU)
Did he cry to the mods? Respect is earned, not given. He constantly talks down about people, but cries any time he is talked down to. Or does all the shit he talks about Trip, stoners, gamers, anyone who disagrees with him not count?
Did he cry to the mods? Respect is earned, not given. He constantly talks down about people, but cries any time he is talked down to. Or does all the shit he talks about Trip, stoners, gamers, anyone who disagrees with him not count?
Kook !!rcSrAtaAC replied with this 7 years ago, 41 seconds later, 13 hours after the original post[^] [v] #988,605
I take doxylamine
Fake anon !ZkUt8arUCU replied with this 7 years ago, 2 minutes later, 13 hours after the original post[^] [v] #988,606
@988,604 (A)
No I just think Bert is the most persecuted person here, maybe the most persecuted person ever, and has done nothing wrong, thanks.
No I just think Bert is the most persecuted person here, maybe the most persecuted person ever, and has done nothing wrong, thanks.
Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 7 years ago, 1 minute later, 13 hours after the original post[^] [v] #988,607
Anonymous G replied with this 7 years ago, 27 minutes later, 13 hours after the original post[^] [v] #988,623
@988,606 (Fake anon !ZkUt8arUCU)
well...I'm not anywhere near perfect..
but thanks..
well...I'm not anywhere near perfect..
but thanks..
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Meta !Sober//iZs replied with this 7 years ago, 36 minutes later, 14 hours after the original post[^] [v] #988,639
Upgrade to amitriptyline thanks ?
Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 7 years ago, 4 minutes later, 14 hours after the original post[^] [v] #988,640
@previous (Meta !Sober//iZs)
I fell asleep quickly last night, and stayed asleep until about 8. Thanks.
I fell asleep quickly last night, and stayed asleep until about 8. Thanks.
Anonymous G replied with this 7 years ago, 1 hour later, 15 hours after the original post[^] [v] #988,673
Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 7 years ago, 8 hours later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #988,817
@988,605 (Kook !!rcSrAtaAC)
Have you tried L-theanine? I noticed some melatonin supplements come paired with it.
Have you tried L-theanine? I noticed some melatonin supplements come paired with it.
Kook !!rcSrAtaAC replied with this 7 years ago, 8 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #988,826
Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 7 years ago, 6 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #988,833
@previous (Kook !!rcSrAtaAC)
The one I saw was called Melatonin+, packaged by the Nature Made brand.
The one I saw was called Melatonin+, packaged by the Nature Made brand.
Kook !!rcSrAtaAC replied with this 7 years ago, 47 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #988,846
Anonymous D replied with this 7 years ago, 1 hour later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #988,867
@988,605 (Kook !!rcSrAtaAC)
Yeah, whatever. Antihistamine. I've seen kids prescribed a huge dose just to keep them stupid through the day. Do you do that before bed? How does that treat you? Do you ever have vivid dreams? Do have sleep paralysis? I'm actually curious. That's been used for a long while, but often in concert with some other things.
EDIT: Are you taking those in concert with other drugs?
Yeah, whatever. Antihistamine. I've seen kids prescribed a huge dose just to keep them stupid through the day. Do you do that before bed? How does that treat you? Do you ever have vivid dreams? Do have sleep paralysis? I'm actually curious. That's been used for a long while, but often in concert with some other things.
EDIT: Are you taking those in concert with other drugs?
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Kook !!rcSrAtaAC replied with this 7 years ago, 9 hours later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #988,947
@previous (D)
I take prescription drugs as well and I have had sleep paralysis two and a half times and I usually don't temembet dreams unless they happen right before I wake and it isn't that often
My most frequent dream is having to keep safe something that everyone refers to and treats a a baby. Sometimes it is an actual child, but sometimesimes it is a kitten, rat, gerbil, or animal that doesn't exist
I take prescription drugs as well and I have had sleep paralysis two and a half times and I usually don't temembet dreams unless they happen right before I wake and it isn't that often
My most frequent dream is having to keep safe something that everyone refers to and treats a a baby. Sometimes it is an actual child, but sometimesimes it is a kitten, rat, gerbil, or animal that doesn't exist
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Meta !Sober//iZs replied with this 7 years ago, 6 hours later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #989,072
Sleep paralysis sounds cool but I've never experienced it :(
Anonymous I joined in and replied with this 7 years ago, 4 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #989,073
tteh !MemesToDNA joined in and replied with this 7 years ago, 3 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #989,074
@989,072 (Meta !Sober//iZs)
It's fucking terrifying. It would maybe be cool if it weren't for the fact it always involves something scary as shit, like a large shadowy mass slowly making its way towards you, while you're unable to move. 0/10 would not experience again.
It's fucking terrifying. It would maybe be cool if it weren't for the fact it always involves something scary as shit, like a large shadowy mass slowly making its way towards you, while you're unable to move. 0/10 would not experience again.
tteh !MemesToDNA double-posted this 7 years ago, 42 seconds later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #989,075
like why aren't pleasant sleep paralyses a thing? somebody tell me
Meta !Sober//iZs replied with this 7 years ago, 4 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #989,077
@previous (tteh !MemesToDNA)
It seems it could be pleasant. Like you're so relaxed you literally cannot move.
It seems it could be pleasant. Like you're so relaxed you literally cannot move.
Anonymous K joined in and replied with this 7 years ago, 38 seconds later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #989,078
tteh !MemesToDNA replied with this 7 years ago, 12 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #989,082
@previous (K)
Now this is the sort of sleep paralysis I'd be up for.
I'd love to know how that transpired, btw.
Now this is the sort of sleep paralysis I'd be up for.
I'd love to know how that transpired, btw.
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tteh !MemesToDNA double-posted this 7 years ago, 1 minute later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #989,084
@989,077 (Meta !Sober//iZs)
Except your heart is beating at 150bpm and you're experiencing abject terror. Might be alright if you're shagging a ghost, but otherwise pretty unpleasant.
Except your heart is beating at 150bpm and you're experiencing abject terror. Might be alright if you're shagging a ghost, but otherwise pretty unpleasant.
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Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 7 years ago, 2 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #989,085
Meta !Sober//iZs replied with this 7 years ago, 8 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #989,093
@989,084 (tteh !MemesToDNA)
I remember a while back someone here got to see a ghost by mixing alcohol and benzos ?
I remember a while back someone here got to see a ghost by mixing alcohol and benzos ?
Kook !!rcSrAtaAC replied with this 7 years ago, 2 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #989,094
Ben Johnson replied with this 7 years ago, 24 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #989,114
@989,084 (tteh !MemesToDNA)
> Except your heart is beating at 150bpm and you're experiencing abject terror. Might be alright if you're shagging a ghost, but otherwise pretty unpleasant.
but that's me when I'm awake anyway
> Except your heart is beating at 150bpm and you're experiencing abject terror. Might be alright if you're shagging a ghost, but otherwise pretty unpleasant.
but that's me when I'm awake anyway
Anonymous K replied with this 7 years ago, 2 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #989,115
@989,082 (tteh !MemesToDNA)
Well I felt the hands crawling over me and I couldn't see shit but I felt a feminine presence and then there was sex
Also when I get sleep paralysis I try to stay mindful and logical, I've never been terrified even when the visions felt so real
Well I felt the hands crawling over me and I couldn't see shit but I felt a feminine presence and then there was sex
Also when I get sleep paralysis I try to stay mindful and logical, I've never been terrified even when the visions felt so real
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Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 7 years ago, 4 hours later, 2 days after the original post[^] [v] #989,222
@989,094 (Kook !!rcSrAtaAC)
I've heard that, but I have a morbid fascination with full body hallucinations. Even though I've taken too much bupropion, and hallucinated because of it. It was not fun, but it does not stop me from being overly fascinated with hallucinations.
After learning about Joseph Kallinger, I really want to kick this fascination deep down. Yet, it still remains.
I've heard that, but I have a morbid fascination with full body hallucinations. Even though I've taken too much bupropion, and hallucinated because of it. It was not fun, but it does not stop me from being overly fascinated with hallucinations.
After learning about Joseph Kallinger, I really want to kick this fascination deep down. Yet, it still remains.
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Kook !!rcSrAtaAC replied with this 7 years ago, 8 minutes later, 2 days after the original post[^] [v] #989,223
@previous (A)
The first time I had one (that I consider to be the half) I never took medications besides weed. It was on 9/11. I was laying in bed and the phone rang. I picked it up and heard this horrible, distorted jabbering. I was frozen in terror for what felt like forever. Soon I snapped out of it and realized that there was never a phone call. I turned on the tv and it was the news showing the twin towers going down.
The first time I had one (that I consider to be the half) I never took medications besides weed. It was on 9/11. I was laying in bed and the phone rang. I picked it up and heard this horrible, distorted jabbering. I was frozen in terror for what felt like forever. Soon I snapped out of it and realized that there was never a phone call. I turned on the tv and it was the news showing the twin towers going down.
Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 7 years ago, 6 minutes later, 2 days after the original post[^] [v] #989,225
@previous (Kook !!rcSrAtaAC)
I have dreams with premonitions, sometimes. My brother is visted in his dreams by a dog headed man, carrying a shiny gold object in his left hand, anytime someone in my family is about to die.
That sounds a little creepy, I honestly don't know how I would react to sleep paralysis. I like to think that I could keep calm.
I have dreams with premonitions, sometimes. My brother is visted in his dreams by a dog headed man, carrying a shiny gold object in his left hand, anytime someone in my family is about to die.
That sounds a little creepy, I honestly don't know how I would react to sleep paralysis. I like to think that I could keep calm.
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Anonymous D replied with this 7 years ago, 3 hours later, 2 days after the original post[^] [v] #989,269
@988,947 (Kook !!rcSrAtaAC)
> I take prescription drugs as well and I have had sleep paralysis two and a half times and I usually don't temembet dreams unless they happen right before I wake and it isn't that often
I was just curious about the sleep meds. I won't ask about the prescription meds. It gets weirdly personal. Sorry. Thanks though. It's a data point, at least in my head.
I'm sorry about the sleep paralysis. I am. I hear it can be a horrible thing. It's kind of something I've wanted to experience since I heard about it. I know that might weird. I'm weirdly jealous.
> I take prescription drugs as well and I have had sleep paralysis two and a half times and I usually don't temembet dreams unless they happen right before I wake and it isn't that often
I was just curious about the sleep meds. I won't ask about the prescription meds. It gets weirdly personal. Sorry. Thanks though. It's a data point, at least in my head.
I'm sorry about the sleep paralysis. I am. I hear it can be a horrible thing. It's kind of something I've wanted to experience since I heard about it. I know that might weird. I'm weirdly jealous.
Kook !!rcSrAtaAC replied with this 7 years ago, 18 minutes later, 2 days after the original post[^] [v] #989,273
@previous (D)
I don't mind talking about the meds
At 10:30 pm I take a Xanax and a buproprian
At 11:30 I take a melatonin
At 12:00 I take a muscle relaxer
At 12:30 I take a gabapentin and resperidone
At 1:00 I take the Doxylamine
When I have more time later I will talk about the other two sleep paralysis incidents
Also my stepfather gets them frequently and is on no medication
I don't mind talking about the meds
At 10:30 pm I take a Xanax and a buproprian
At 11:30 I take a melatonin
At 12:00 I take a muscle relaxer
At 12:30 I take a gabapentin and resperidone
At 1:00 I take the Doxylamine
When I have more time later I will talk about the other two sleep paralysis incidents
Also my stepfather gets them frequently and is on no medication
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Anonymous D replied with this 7 years ago, 22 minutes later, 2 days after the original post[^] [v] #989,278
@previous (Kook !!rcSrAtaAC)
Wow. You stay awake for that schedule of meds? Like regularly? I guess I could if needed to, but wow... I honestly don't know. I know people who would see the walls melting an hour after the Xanax. You must have a pretty military sense of time. That's impressive that you can do that. Not everyone has that response to Xanax, it's more than a few people though.
Did you have to go on meds before your sleep paralysis events or was later?
I'm sorry, I'm really just personally curious. *You can ask the mods, errr Meta at least* I'm actually just really curious about your personal experience on those meds.
Wow. You stay awake for that schedule of meds? Like regularly? I guess I could if needed to, but wow... I honestly don't know. I know people who would see the walls melting an hour after the Xanax. You must have a pretty military sense of time. That's impressive that you can do that. Not everyone has that response to Xanax, it's more than a few people though.
Did you have to go on meds before your sleep paralysis events or was later?
I'm sorry, I'm really just personally curious. *You can ask the mods, errr Meta at least* I'm actually just really curious about your personal experience on those meds.
Kook !!rcSrAtaAC replied with this 7 years ago, 28 minutes later, 2 days after the original post[^] [v] #989,280
@previous (D)
I have an adrenal gland disorder so "downers" don't affect me in the same way as other people.
For the first sleep paralysis I never took anything but marijuana.
But for the second two I was on the stated meds
I have an adrenal gland disorder so "downers" don't affect me in the same way as other people.
For the first sleep paralysis I never took anything but marijuana.
But for the second two I was on the stated meds