Topic: If I'm being honest, I'm ambivalent about abortion.
beckyderp !TInYDicKMI started this discussion 7 years ago#86,008
It makes me uncomfortable and I don't have great responses to a lot of pro-life arguments. I still think it should be legal but ugh, it really is violent dismemberment, isn't it?
Fake anon !ZkUt8arUCU joined in and replied with this 7 years ago, 6 minutes later[^][v]#985,217
Depends how late in term the pregnancy is. A lot of abortions are just someone taking a pill and waiting. Late term abortions are pretty gruesome but usually done only out of necessity.
beckyderp !TInYDicKMI (OP) replied with this 7 years ago, 2 minutes later, 8 minutes after the original post[^][v]#985,218
@previous (Fake anon !ZkUt8arUCU)
I only know one person who had the pill (that I know of at least) and she found it messy, horrid, and completely traumatizing. A miscarriage of course is also a traumatic event. idk. Even an early abortion is brutal in a lot of ways.
Anonymous C joined in and replied with this 7 years ago, 2 minutes later, 11 minutes after the original post[^][v]#985,219
Yes they pull the babies apart. Many young women make choices they regret later in their lives and carry the guilt.
Fake anon !ZkUt8arUCU replied with this 7 years ago, 3 minutes later, 15 minutes after the original post[^][v]#985,220
@985,218 (beckyderp !TInYDicKMI)
Yeah I know someone who had a pill abortion too and it was an awful experience for them. This is why you need to teach contraception use in schools. There's not really a good way to have an abortion but making women go through the medical risks of childbearing and then having to care for a child they cannot provide for, or putting a child into an already over-capacity foster care system isn't humane either.
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beckyderp !TInYDicKMI (OP) replied with this 7 years ago, 2 minutes later, 17 minutes after the original post[^][v]#985,221
@985,219 (C) @previous (Fake anon !ZkUt8arUCU)
They just need more fun methods of abortion, I think. Maybe that would help both sides agree.
Anonymous D joined in and replied with this 7 years ago, 2 minutes later, 19 minutes after the original post[^][v]#985,222
Life and death are complex. Decisions decisions.
Anonymous D double-posted this 7 years ago, 46 seconds later, 20 minutes after the original post[^][v]#985,223
@985,221 (beckyderp !TInYDicKMI)
No one has a party after an abortion.
Fake anon !ZkUt8arUCU replied with this 7 years ago, 4 minutes later, 24 minutes after the original post[^][v]#985,224
beckyderp !TInYDicKMI (OP) replied with this 7 years ago, 2 minutes later, 26 minutes after the original post[^][v]#985,225
@previous (Fake anon !ZkUt8arUCU)
Oh good point! Maybe you could stuff some candy in women before abortions too. Invite all the kids.
Kook !!rcSrAtaAC joined in and replied with this 7 years ago, 1 minute later, 28 minutes after the original post[^][v]#985,226
I think that sometimes it is murder, but I don't care
Kook !!rcSrAtaAC double-posted this 7 years ago, 44 seconds later, 28 minutes after the original post[^][v]#985,227
I also think that all forms of birth control should be free
tteh !MemesToDNA joined in and replied with this 7 years ago, 4 minutes later, 32 minutes after the original post[^][v]#985,230
@985,226 (Kook !!rcSrAtaAC)
I think using moralising terms like "murder" isn't very helpful, but I agree with (I think?) the sentiment that it's not exactly 'pleasant' but is unfortunately necessary.
beckyderp !TInYDicKMI (OP) replied with this 7 years ago, 1 minute later, 34 minutes after the original post[^][v]#985,232
@previous (tteh !MemesToDNA)
What do you think about the piñatas?
Fake anon !ZkUt8arUCU replied with this 7 years ago, 1 second later, 34 minutes after the original post[^][v]#985,233
@985,225 (beckyderp !TInYDicKMI)
Well not all the kids. At least one of them has to be inside the piñata after all.
tteh !MemesToDNA replied with this 7 years ago, 2 minutes later, 36 minutes after the original post[^][v]#985,234
@985,232 (beckyderp !TInYDicKMI)
It depends what sort of implements we are allowed to use to liberate the candy, you know? It could be fun, it might be boring as hell.
beckyderp !TInYDicKMI (OP) replied with this 7 years ago, 22 seconds later, 37 minutes after the original post[^][v]#985,236
@985,233 (Fake anon !ZkUt8arUCU)
Oh, that one we just call a "clump of cells," FYI.
Fake anon !ZkUt8arUCU replied with this 7 years ago, 1 minute later, 38 minutes after the original post[^][v]#985,238
@previous (beckyderp !TInYDicKMI)
We are all just clumps of cells if you think about it.
Anonymous G joined in and replied with this 7 years ago, 2 minutes later, 41 minutes after the original post[^][v]#985,240
@previous (Fake anon !ZkUt8arUCU)
Of course a clump of cells in uterus could result in a future President - Dictator or Serial Killer or someone that finds a cure for every cancer.
Sheila LaBoof joined in and replied with this 7 years ago, 21 minutes later, 1 hour after the original post[^][v]#985,249
a pinata and inside all the candies are shaped like fetuses
Meta !Sober//iZs joined in and replied with this 7 years ago, 2 minutes later, 1 hour after the original post[^][v]#985,250
I agree. It's a pretty brutal process tbqh. You're basically destroying a fetus and sucking it out. Also you're killing a potential human. Sometimes that might be the right choice, like if you know the child has a severe genetic defect or the pregnancy is really high risk for the mother but I imagine it's something that would be difficult to accept, psychologically.
Anonymous J joined in and replied with this 7 years ago, 2 hours later, 3 hours after the original post[^][v]#985,297
It's like think of the grossest killing you have ever heard of and how disgusted you were..
If you get an abortion you did basically the same type of thing to a member of your own family..
Miserable Moe !iAYoMftFR2 joined in and replied with this 7 years ago, 8 minutes later, 3 hours after the original post[^][v]#985,300
It is clear infanticide.
Anonymous L joined in and replied with this 7 years ago, 28 minutes later, 4 hours after the original post[^][v]#985,308
ITT:See why Fake Anon and Becky are decent people.
beckyderp !TInYDicKMI (OP) replied with this 7 years ago, 35 minutes later, 4 hours after the original post[^][v]#985,313
@previous (L)
Will you come to my piñata abortion??
Anonymous L replied with this 7 years ago, 1 hour later, 6 hours after the original post[^][v]#985,350
Sheila LaBoof replied with this 7 years ago, 33 minutes later, 8 hours after the original post[^][v]#985,388
The Sex Pistols had a song about a fucked up girl that Johnny met. Oddly enough, he's not for a law against abortion, but the girl really put him off so he wrote a song.