Topic: Full info on atheism
Full infoman !!r8v/mgTZ/ started this discussion 7 years ago #85,836
Atheism means lack of belief in God. Atheists often discount supernatural phenomena such as the afterlife, divine revelation, ghosts as well as God. Atheism is divided into Strong and Weak Atheism. Strong Atheism is a dogma in itself: They claim that there absolutely is no God, despite the fact that the existence of the supernatural cannot be disproven. Some people calling themselves Atheists say that since God can not be disproven, it would be unscientific to declare God impossible. These people are actually Agnostics. There is considerable amount of scientific evidence that suggest that theism is more conducive to mental and physical health than atheism: Atheists commonly have lower emotional intelligence/interpersonal intelligence and social intelligence as can be seen in social science data, historical data and other data. There are preliminary studies indicating that individuals who reject Christianity in Western cultures have lower self-esteem than the Christian population. There are studies indicating that lower self-esteem is associated with suicidality. Concerning atheism and depression, a study found that religious people are less likely than atheists to suffer depression when they are lonely. Atheists within the United States have developed a reputation of uncharitableness as they gave far less to charities, even if church donations are not counted: Christians are more charitable than their irreligious counterparts. Forty percent of worship service attending Americans volunteer regularly to help the poor and elderly as opposed to 15% of Americans who never attend services. Moreover, Christians are more likely than non-religious individuals to volunteer for school and youth programs (36% vs. 15%), a neighborhood or civic group (26% vs. 13%), and for health care (21% vs. 13%). One of the common and well-founded charges against atheists is their arrogance and presumptuousness.
Popularly-known Atheists include Stephen Hawking, Albert Einstein, Stephen J. Gould, Carl Sagan, Richard Dawkins and Sam Harris. It is also worth noting that two of the biggest mass murderers in history, Pol Pot and Stalin, were atheists. Despots like Stalin, Lenin, Kim Jong Il and Fidel Castro were or are at the center of governments which enforce reverence unto them as though they were deities. Regardless of this it is obvious that no democracy has ever elected a leader who did not believe in God or a higher power. Thus it can be concluded that God guides the leaders of democracies.
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Sheila LaBoof joined in and replied with this 7 years ago, 4 hours later[^] [v] #983,485
Sam Harris isn't quite "popular" as much as a flakey monied elite who gets to coast on his mother's Golden Girls money
Fake anon !ZkUt8arUCU joined in and replied with this 7 years ago, 2 minutes later, 4 hours after the original post[^] [v] #983,492
> Albert Einstein, Stephen J. Gould, Carl Sagan, Richard Dawkins and Sam Harris
All of then are dead, or will die in the future. Imagine still being an atheist after all this proof. Lmao.
All of then are dead, or will die in the future. Imagine still being an atheist after all this proof. Lmao.
Sheila LaBoof replied with this 7 years ago, 2 minutes later, 4 hours after the original post[^] [v] #983,496
on a related note, why the fuck are there so many certified "neuroscientists" now. and most of them seem to write books on any topic under the sun and chat on podcasts instead of actually figuring out how the fuck brains work
Anonymous D joined in and replied with this 7 years ago, 11 minutes later, 5 hours after the original post[^] [v] #983,512
Everyone in Hell isn't an atheist...but every atheist ends up in Hell..
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Sheila LaBoof replied with this 7 years ago, 44 minutes later, 5 hours after the original post[^] [v] #983,541
never fear, the torment of hell is but a phase before the complete destruction of the wicked, and hell itself, in the lake of fire as foretold in the Book of Revelation.
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LOL conservapedia
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@983,716 (D)
Ugh, this excuse pisses me off. “Oooh, we can’t understand God because he’s beyond our comprehension! So we can’t question anything he does!”
Fuck off. There’s nothing mysterious about it. We can see that his “actions” are contradictory and nonsensical, and that’s because he doesn’t exist.
Ugh, this excuse pisses me off. “Oooh, we can’t understand God because he’s beyond our comprehension! So we can’t question anything he does!”
Fuck off. There’s nothing mysterious about it. We can see that his “actions” are contradictory and nonsensical, and that’s because he doesn’t exist.
Anonymous G replied with this 7 years ago, 25 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #983,883
@previous (J)
> Ugh, this excuse pisses me off. “Oooh, we can’t understand God because he’s beyond our comprehension! So we can’t question anything he does!”
It's funny that not knowing God's plan or reason for anything never gets in the way of people thinking they know exactly what God wants. I've only ever heard the "mysterious ways" excuse used as a last ditch effort to explain how horrible shit happens. No one ever seems to apply it to everyday life when they're sure that God wants other people to do something. God is only unknowable until someone wants to use him as a sock puppet.
> Ugh, this excuse pisses me off. “Oooh, we can’t understand God because he’s beyond our comprehension! So we can’t question anything he does!”
It's funny that not knowing God's plan or reason for anything never gets in the way of people thinking they know exactly what God wants. I've only ever heard the "mysterious ways" excuse used as a last ditch effort to explain how horrible shit happens. No one ever seems to apply it to everyday life when they're sure that God wants other people to do something. God is only unknowable until someone wants to use him as a sock puppet.
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Anonymous J replied with this 7 years ago, 30 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #983,887
@previous (G)
Exactly. It's just an excuse. An "unfalsifiable" response when the questions get tough. But there's nothing mysterious about an all-powerful being allowing widespread poverty and starvation and natural disasters in poor countries. That would just be assholery.
I guess one amusing exception to that is those crazy ones that say things like "god sent that hurricane to punish us for tolerating gays!". Though they're probably a minority.
Exactly. It's just an excuse. An "unfalsifiable" response when the questions get tough. But there's nothing mysterious about an all-powerful being allowing widespread poverty and starvation and natural disasters in poor countries. That would just be assholery.
I guess one amusing exception to that is those crazy ones that say things like "god sent that hurricane to punish us for tolerating gays!". Though they're probably a minority.
Anonymous G replied with this 7 years ago, 1 hour later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #983,893
@previous (J)
Even when someone says "god sent that hurricane to punish us for tolerating gays!" that's still professing to know God's plan. They're still attributing a purpose to the events. If they just shrugged their shoulders about whether God did it, then at least they would be consistent. Conveniently, God only seems to be mysterious when people don't have an explanation they are ready to hear. The ineffability of God's plan is more akin to a defense mechanism than a religious doctrine.
Even when someone says "god sent that hurricane to punish us for tolerating gays!" that's still professing to know God's plan. They're still attributing a purpose to the events. If they just shrugged their shoulders about whether God did it, then at least they would be consistent. Conveniently, God only seems to be mysterious when people don't have an explanation they are ready to hear. The ineffability of God's plan is more akin to a defense mechanism than a religious doctrine.
MC smartie replied with this 7 years ago, 30 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #983,896
Ugh me no understand this God thing. It must not be real.
Father Merrin !u5oFWxmY7U joined in and replied with this 7 years ago, 36 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #983,897
@previous (MC smartie)
> Ugh me no understand this God thing. It must not be real.
Lol, this. "I'm confused by this thing, therefore it doesn't exist". So many confused 'atheists' are guilty of this kind of intellectual cowardice. They flee from enquiry and investigation.
> Ugh me no understand this God thing. It must not be real.
Lol, this. "I'm confused by this thing, therefore it doesn't exist". So many confused 'atheists' are guilty of this kind of intellectual cowardice. They flee from enquiry and investigation.
Anonymous J replied with this 7 years ago, 1 hour later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #983,899
@983,893 (G)
Ah, I meant that was an exception in that it's someone justifying a natural disaster with a specific purpose, rather than the usual "oooo, mysterious ways".
Ah, I meant that was an exception in that it's someone justifying a natural disaster with a specific purpose, rather than the usual "oooo, mysterious ways".
