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Topic: Why're you supposed to have >500 calories a day?

Triptych !!DP4/G/5A6 started this discussion 15 years ago #8,575

I read a few places that you should never have less than 500 calories a day without consulting a doctor. This is relevant to my interests.
So. Why?

Anonymous B joined in and replied with this 15 years ago, 1 minute later[^] [v] #150,397

The same reason you put enough gas in your car when going on a road trip.

Syntax joined in and replied with this 15 years ago, 51 minutes later, 53 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #150,452

@OP

> I read a few places that you should never have less than 500 calories a day without consulting a doctor. This is relevant to my interests.
> So. Why?

http://www.scientificpsychic.com/fitness/diet.html tl;dr skip to bottom line

Calories per day - The minimum number of Calories per day is calculated based on height and sex according to the guidelines of the Institute of Medicine. When the BMI is 25 or greater, the minimum number of Calories is reduced by 15% to obtain a diet that is not very severe and can be maintained for many months without adverse effects by persons with normal health. The number of Calories may need to be increased depending on the level of activity, but increasing them by more than 15% may not result in loss of weight. To lose weight, your intake of carbohydrates should be less than 60 grams per day (no more than 240 Calories) distributed throughout the day.

Grams of protein per day - This value is calculated from the maximum normal BMI, your height, and your level of activity. It corresponds to 0.8 grams of protein per Kilogram of body weight which is the Recommended Dietary Allowance (RDA) for low levels of activity, 1.1 grams for moderate activity, and 1.4 grams for vigorous activity. Other components of the diet, including essential fatty acids and carbohydrates should be proportioned to provide the minimum required Calories per day. For men and women of equal height the caloric requirements are lower for women, but the protein requirements are the same for both men and women. This means that, in general, women's diets should be richer in protein than men's diets. Any diet should always include at least the minimum amount of protein to prevent loss of muscle tissue when the caloric intake is reduced. A typical high-protein diet would derive 30% of the Calories from protein, 30% from fat, and 40% from carbohydrate. A low carbohydrate weight-loss diet generally derives 25% of the Calories from protein, 65% from fat, and 10% from carbohydrate. The tables below show that these percentages provide more than the minimum protein requirement for 2000- and 1800-calorie diets. The U.S. Government Recommended Diet is used as the basis for the "% Daily Values" that are listed on the "Nutrition Facts" labels in food products.


tl;dr bottom line. IF YOU Do not get a minimum amount of protean per day, your body will draw it out of your muscles and that can include YOUR HEART. Karen Carpenter died from Heart Damage do to exactly this problem.

!JuMPb0dbaE joined in and replied with this 15 years ago, 4 minutes later, 57 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #150,455

You should be eating much more. 10x your weight in calories is a good minimum for dieting if mixed with exercise.

You cant eat >500 calories for long, and even then you need a lot of protein and fiber (and lots of water or you will get constipated) or you will not come out of if well. Don't do it more than a week. Seriously. It's bad news.

!JuMPb0dbaE double-posted this 15 years ago, 41 seconds later, 58 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #150,457

@150,452 (Syntax)
Karen Carpenter died from being too fat to be a popstar. Dont spread lies.

RonPaul2012 !4EB6xd.Oos joined in and replied with this 15 years ago, 12 minutes later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #150,473

@150,455 (!JuMPb0dbaE)
what the f??? is that right? I thought 1000 calories was a healthy level for a woman and 2000 for a man?

Syntax replied with this 15 years ago, 8 minutes later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #150,479

Externally hosted image@150,457 (!JuMPb0dbaE)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Karen_Carpenter

"She suffered from anorexia nervosa, an eating disorder little-known at the time, and died at the age of 32 from heart failure, later attributed to complications related to her illness."

Triptych !!DP4/G/5A6 (OP) replied with this 15 years ago, 44 seconds later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #150,480

@150,455 (!JuMPb0dbaE)
10x seems a bit much for some people, imo.

Alright. I just don't feel the need to eat much any more.

@150,452 (Syntax)
I see. That's rather interesting.

ltamake !3vZ7A06glM joined in and replied with this 15 years ago, 56 seconds later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #150,482

@150,473 (RonPaul2012 !4EB6xd.Oos)
There is no standard number of daily calories you should eat. It varies from person to person.

Syntax replied with this 15 years ago, 41 seconds later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #150,483

Externally hosted imagekaren carpenter wedding

Syntax double-posted this 15 years ago, 1 minute later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #150,484

@150,482 (ltamake !3vZ7A06glM)
http://www.scientificpsychic.com/fitness/diet.html

Tables to fill in based on Gender Height Age to find range of weight and BMI's etc

RonPaul2012 !4EB6xd.Oos replied with this 15 years ago, 2 minutes later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #150,486

@150,480 (Triptych !!DP4/G/5A6)
probs all the drugs

Triptych !!DP4/G/5A6 (OP) replied with this 15 years ago, 56 seconds later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #150,488

@previous (RonPaul2012 !4EB6xd.Oos)
> implying so hard

RonPaul2012 !4EB6xd.Oos replied with this 15 years ago, 22 seconds later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #150,489

@previous (Triptych !!DP4/G/5A6)
you admitted to being a drug fiend

Triptych !!DP4/G/5A6 (OP) replied with this 15 years ago, 32 seconds later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #150,490

@previous (RonPaul2012 !4EB6xd.Oos)
> fiend
Lolno. More like bored.

!JuMPb0dbaE replied with this 15 years ago, 2 minutes later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #150,491

@150,473 (RonPaul2012 !4EB6xd.Oos)
Noooo. Women shouldn't eat less than 1000.

@150,480 (Triptych !!DP4/G/5A6)
It's too little for more or less everyone. It's for dieting. A woman weighing 130lbs can eat 1300 calories and lose weight.

You are like 15-16 or so, yes? You should eat more because you are still growing.

You want a balanced diet. If you are trying to lose weight, just eat good good (lean meats, veggies, fruits, avoid starchy carbs as much as you can). Just eat until you are full. If one servin isn't enough and you are still hungry 20 minutes later, eat some more.

In all seriousness, eating so little sets you up for some serious issues. It puts you in a mindset where failure can cause you to spiral out out of control (which could result in anorexia or overeating).

500 calories is seriously too low. Bodyrecomposition.com -- go there. Read up on weight loss. It will educate you so you know what's what and don't get any misinformation. Lyle McDonald is legit. He gives out most of his information for free. He gears his writing towards athletes and such, but it's helpful for everyone.

It's all easy to understand too.

!JuMPb0dbaE double-posted this 15 years ago, 44 seconds later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #150,492

@150,483 (Syntax)
God, what a fucking cow.

RonPaul2012 !4EB6xd.Oos replied with this 15 years ago, 37 seconds later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #150,493

@150,491 (!JuMPb0dbaE)
lolsorry i didn't think about pounds i was doing kg

Syntax replied with this 15 years ago, 2 minutes later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #150,494

@150,492 (!JuMPb0dbaE)
You saying she had multiple tits like a cow?

Triptych !!DP4/G/5A6 (OP) replied with this 15 years ago, 49 seconds later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #150,495

@150,491 (!JuMPb0dbaE)
15, yes.

Lean meats, veggies, fruits, etc. aren't usually things I have available to eat at home. Not often, at least.
When there is, my mom makes really good (and healthy) food, though...

Reading up now. Thanks, man.

Syntax replied with this 15 years ago, 2 minutes later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #150,497

@previous (Triptych !!DP4/G/5A6)
So why are you asking? Weight issues?

Triptych !!DP4/G/5A6 (OP) replied with this 15 years ago, 1 minute later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #150,499

@previous (Syntax)
Nah. I'm light enough.
It's relevant to my interests, since that's about how much I have a day, usually.

!JuMPb0dbaE replied with this 15 years ago, 8 minutes later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #150,502

@previous (Triptych !!DP4/G/5A6)
You probably are miscalculating your calories, anyways. Most people underestimate. Well, everyone does, but most people underestimate by a lot.


@150,493 (RonPaul2012 !4EB6xd.Oos)
That was my bad. I didnt specify pounds.

Triptych !!DP4/G/5A6 (OP) replied with this 15 years ago, 1 minute later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #150,503

@previous (!JuMPb0dbaE)
Nah, I got bored and looked at the wrappers of everything and added it up.

green joined in and replied with this 15 years ago, 33 minutes later, 2 hours after the original post[^] [v] #150,515

http://freedieting.com/tools/calorie_calculator.htm

Syntax replied with this 15 years ago, 36 minutes later, 2 hours after the original post[^] [v] #150,519

@150,503 (Triptych !!DP4/G/5A6)
I have serious doubts it cums 2 only 500. Unless you are in bed 24/7 a day. No energy output and then maybe one could do 500

Triptych !!DP4/G/5A6 (OP) replied with this 15 years ago, 51 seconds later, 2 hours after the original post[^] [v] #150,520

@previous (Syntax)
...I am pretty much in bed 24/7. I can't be fucked to get up. It's not like I'd do anything outside.

!JuMPb0dbaE replied with this 15 years ago, 1 minute later, 2 hours after the original post[^] [v] #150,521

@150,519 (Syntax)
Your body adapts. You can do a good amount of work and, you will feel like shit, but you will be able to go about your day.

The problem is your body starts eating itself.

Anonymous H joined in and replied with this 15 years ago, 32 seconds later, 2 hours after the original post[^] [v] #150,522

@150,520 (Triptych !!DP4/G/5A6)
You should go back to bed then.

Triptych !!DP4/G/5A6 (OP) replied with this 15 years ago, 1 minute later, 3 hours after the original post[^] [v] #150,523

@previous (H)
I am in bed. I should shower. ;_;

Nega !34Kas0OdzM joined in and replied with this 15 years ago, 1 minute later, 3 hours after the original post[^] [v] #150,524

Because your metabolism tends to become panicky at that point.


1500 is maintainance level.
Not useful for people in puberty.

What's the composition of your diet like, and why am I MC's health counselor, lols.

(Edited 1 minute later.)

Anonymous H replied with this 15 years ago, 45 seconds later, 3 hours after the original post[^] [v] #150,525

@150,523 (Triptych !!DP4/G/5A6)
Shower then go back to bed then, little lady. You need your rest.

!JuMPb0dbaE replied with this 15 years ago, 22 seconds later, 3 hours after the original post[^] [v] #150,526

@150,523 (Triptych !!DP4/G/5A6)
Get out of bed first.

Triptych !!DP4/G/5A6 (OP) replied with this 15 years ago, 49 seconds later, 3 hours after the original post[^] [v] #150,527

@150,525 (H)
But why, Fuchs?

@150,524 (Nega !34Kas0OdzM)
Whatever's lying around. Broccoli or marshmallows.
Because you're the only sensible person here at all.

Nega !34Kas0OdzM replied with this 15 years ago, 2 minutes later, 3 hours after the original post[^] [v] #150,528

Welp, I'd drag you out of bad (maybe not bodily, but you get the picture) each day at 5 were you my roommate. :$

Triptych !!DP4/G/5A6 (OP) replied with this 15 years ago, 1 minute later, 3 hours after the original post[^] [v] #150,529

@previous (Nega !34Kas0OdzM)
Responsible man.

@150,526 (!JuMPb0dbaE)
And do what, man? It's 2 am, so I'm stuck inside. There's no fucking point.

!JuMPb0dbaE replied with this 15 years ago, 11 minutes later, 3 hours after the original post[^] [v] #150,532

@previous (Triptych !!DP4/G/5A6)
Oh, I just meant before you shower.

!JuMPb0dbaE double-posted this 15 years ago, 30 seconds later, 3 hours after the original post[^] [v] #150,533

@150,528 (Nega !34Kas0OdzM)
You would be a horrible roommate to have.

Triptych !!DP4/G/5A6 (OP) replied with this 15 years ago, 32 seconds later, 3 hours after the original post[^] [v] #150,534

@150,532 (!JuMPb0dbaE)
...Derp. Well, that makes sense.

Nega !34Kas0OdzM replied with this 15 years ago, 20 minutes later, 3 hours after the original post[^] [v] #150,535

@150,533 (!JuMPb0dbaE)

> You would be a horrible roommate to have.

I know, but you'd come to love me. :')
@150,527 (Triptych !!DP4/G/5A6)
That's it?

Triptych !!DP4/G/5A6 (OP) replied with this 15 years ago, 56 seconds later, 3 hours after the original post[^] [v] #150,536

@previous (Nega !34Kas0OdzM)
Sometimes. Again, just whatever's lying around. There doesn't tend to be a lot of groceries, most of the time.
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