Topic: 17.4 million voted for Brexit.
Anonymous A started this discussion 7 years ago #85,704
313 MPs, including a criminal wearing an electronic tag, just blocked it - with a majority of 1.Anonymous B joined in and replied with this 7 years ago, 10 minutes later[^] [v] #981,959
Sure the Brits voted to Brexit. There was no plan at all on what happens if there is no deal. Nor even any deal of any kind.
In the meantime banks and businesses are running for cover and making a fast exit to the Eu.
In the meantime banks and businesses are running for cover and making a fast exit to the Eu.
Fake anon !ZkUt8arUCU joined in and replied with this 7 years ago, 27 minutes later, 38 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #981,965
It's tough when in an election the option that receives the most votes doesn't end up winning. Tough luck, better luck next time!
Kook !!rcSrAtaAC joined in and replied with this 7 years ago, 3 minutes later, 42 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #981,966
Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 7 years ago, 4 minutes later, 46 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #981,968
Fake anon !ZkUt8arUCU replied with this 7 years ago, 7 minutes later, 53 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #981,969
@981,966 (Kook !!rcSrAtaAC)
What do you mean? It happened in 2000 and 2016 in the U.S. It can happen in any country that isn't a direct democracy.
What do you mean? It happened in 2000 and 2016 in the U.S. It can happen in any country that isn't a direct democracy.
Kook !!rcSrAtaAC replied with this 7 years ago, 9 minutes later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #981,970
Fake anon !ZkUt8arUCU replied with this 7 years ago, 26 minutes later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #981,976
@previous (Kook !!rcSrAtaAC)
No. What they voted for was a non-binding referendum. The vote itself had zero power. Their government promised (with no actual guarantee) that they would obey the results. Now they're halfheartedly trying to follow through, but what the people want isn't what the actual elected members of government want so they're dragging their feet. It should also be pointed out that what the people wanted was and is fucking retarded and could not possibly be achieved, but they had a bus advertisement going around saying they'd save a lot of money or whatever so I don't know how they could have been so wrong.
No. What they voted for was a non-binding referendum. The vote itself had zero power. Their government promised (with no actual guarantee) that they would obey the results. Now they're halfheartedly trying to follow through, but what the people want isn't what the actual elected members of government want so they're dragging their feet. It should also be pointed out that what the people wanted was and is fucking retarded and could not possibly be achieved, but they had a bus advertisement going around saying they'd save a lot of money or whatever so I don't know how they could have been so wrong.
Kook !!rcSrAtaAC replied with this 7 years ago, 12 minutes later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #981,981
Anonymous E joined in and replied with this 7 years ago, 36 seconds later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #981,982
Sounds like a question for svet..
Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 7 years ago, 2 hours later, 3 hours after the original post[^] [v] #982,009
@981,981 (Kook !!rcSrAtaAC)
It was about trying to stop the mass immigration that is plaguing Europe from happening further in Britain.
It was about trying to stop the mass immigration that is plaguing Europe from happening further in Britain.
Anonymous F joined in and replied with this 7 years ago, 16 minutes later, 4 hours after the original post[^] [v] #982,015
Sheila LaBoof joined in and replied with this 7 years ago, 28 minutes later, 4 hours after the original post[^] [v] #982,020
THUNDERDOME
THUNDERDOME
THUNDERDOME
beckyderp !TInYDicKMI joined in and replied with this 7 years ago, 1 hour later, 5 hours after the original post[^] [v] #982,024
Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 7 years ago, 34 minutes later, 6 hours after the original post[^] [v] #982,027
@previous (beckyderp !TInYDicKMI)
And who was driving those double decker bus advertisements? Russian hackers
And who was driving those double decker bus advertisements? Russian hackers
Anonymous I joined in and replied with this 7 years ago, 35 minutes later, 6 hours after the original post[^] [v] #982,030
@981,976 (Fake anon !ZkUt8arUCU)
Also the government kickstarted the exit process with a general election and lost their majority!
Also the government kickstarted the exit process with a general election and lost their majority!
Anonymous J joined in and replied with this 7 years ago, 2 hours later, 9 hours after the original post[^] [v] #982,036
@OP
Why are you lying? They voted against leaving with no deal.
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2019/apr/03/mps-pass-motion-to-debate-article-50-extension-by-one-vote
@981,976 (Fake anon !ZkUt8arUCU)
Don’t know if you’re aware, but the bus advertisement was a huge lie. It said the UK sent x amount of money, but it conveniently didn’t mention that it got a large sum back in rebates and investments.
All of this information is out there, but somehow people still believe that lie. It really hurts my faith in humanity.
Why are you lying? They voted against leaving with no deal.
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2019/apr/03/mps-pass-motion-to-debate-article-50-extension-by-one-vote
@981,976 (Fake anon !ZkUt8arUCU)
Don’t know if you’re aware, but the bus advertisement was a huge lie. It said the UK sent x amount of money, but it conveniently didn’t mention that it got a large sum back in rebates and investments.
All of this information is out there, but somehow people still believe that lie. It really hurts my faith in humanity.
Anonymous I replied with this 7 years ago, 23 minutes later, 9 hours after the original post[^] [v] #982,038
OK so my MP voted for this amendment even though her constituency voted Leave, what a betrayal.
Fake anon !ZkUt8arUCU replied with this 7 years ago, 1 hour later, 11 hours after the original post[^] [v] #982,045
@982,036 (J)
Yeah. I think brexit was a huge mistake that will further accelerate the decline of the British economy and standing in the world. The bus thing was an obvious fraud and lie but I guess if you tell pensioners that brown migrants are coming to rape their daughters (the overwhelming number of migrants in the UK are other EU citizens coming to the UK, not from Syria or Afghanistan or whatever), you can just lie and get away with it. It's depressing.
Yeah. I think brexit was a huge mistake that will further accelerate the decline of the British economy and standing in the world. The bus thing was an obvious fraud and lie but I guess if you tell pensioners that brown migrants are coming to rape their daughters (the overwhelming number of migrants in the UK are other EU citizens coming to the UK, not from Syria or Afghanistan or whatever), you can just lie and get away with it. It's depressing.
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Svet !jzYkdX7lIw joined in and replied with this 7 years ago, 11 minutes later, 11 hours after the original post[^] [v] #982,047
@previous (Fake anon !ZkUt8arUCU)
Oh yeah, the decline. In the 1970s the new York Times declared GB the sick man of Europe and said Britain was no longer great. Well, 10 years after that, Margaret Thatcher was dancing on a stage with Ronald Reagan at New York's stock exchange calibrating the UK booming economy becoming a world top 5.
Oh yeah, the decline. In the 1970s the new York Times declared GB the sick man of Europe and said Britain was no longer great. Well, 10 years after that, Margaret Thatcher was dancing on a stage with Ronald Reagan at New York's stock exchange calibrating the UK booming economy becoming a world top 5.
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Fake anon !ZkUt8arUCU replied with this 7 years ago, 3 minutes later, 11 hours after the original post[^] [v] #982,048
@previous (Svet !jzYkdX7lIw)
So the NY times ran an article once and that is the same as the UK leaving the largest economic union it will ever be a part of with no plan to have trade agreements with other places right as the world is heading towards recession. Good analysis.
So the NY times ran an article once and that is the same as the UK leaving the largest economic union it will ever be a part of with no plan to have trade agreements with other places right as the world is heading towards recession. Good analysis.
Svet !jzYkdX7lIw replied with this 7 years ago, 1 hour later, 12 hours after the original post[^] [v] #982,058
@previous (Fake anon !ZkUt8arUCU)
The point being is that you should never underestimate a large dynamic economy like the UKs. Look how Japan and Germany recovered after ww2. I thought your people were good at this sort of thing?
The point being is that you should never underestimate a large dynamic economy like the UKs. Look how Japan and Germany recovered after ww2. I thought your people were good at this sort of thing?
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Anonymous I replied with this 7 years ago, 1 minute later, 12 hours after the original post[^] [v] #982,059
Fake anon !ZkUt8arUCU replied with this 7 years ago, 3 minutes later, 12 hours after the original post[^] [v] #982,060
@982,058 (Svet !jzYkdX7lIw)
Do you see another Marshall plan incoming? Why do you support rabid nationalism in countries and then expect other countries to just throw money at you to fix the mess you've gotten yourself into? I'm so baffled by your ideas.
Do you see another Marshall plan incoming? Why do you support rabid nationalism in countries and then expect other countries to just throw money at you to fix the mess you've gotten yourself into? I'm so baffled by your ideas.
Anonymous E replied with this 7 years ago, 1 minute later, 12 hours after the original post[^] [v] #982,061
Svet !jzYkdX7lIw replied with this 7 years ago, 1 minute later, 12 hours after the original post[^] [v] #982,063
@982,060 (Fake anon !ZkUt8arUCU)
No don't expect a Marshall plan. I'm saying hard working dynamic countries can dig themselves out of any hole and still end up near the top. Christ, what is wrong with you? Did you, like syntax bet your shekels on the brexit vote to lose?
No don't expect a Marshall plan. I'm saying hard working dynamic countries can dig themselves out of any hole and still end up near the top. Christ, what is wrong with you? Did you, like syntax bet your shekels on the brexit vote to lose?
Fake anon !ZkUt8arUCU replied with this 7 years ago, 5 minutes later, 12 hours after the original post[^] [v] #982,064
@previous (Svet !jzYkdX7lIw)
I ask because Germany and other European countries were only able to dig themselves out of the hole WWII left them in because the US gave you $100 billion to fix yourselves. We also heavily occupied Japan and Germany militarily and forcibly rebuilt them. So when you say that the post WWII economic boom will happen again, you surely must mean that the US will be doing analogous things such as giving you large sums of money and militarily occupying you.
Unless that's not what you mean but then it's not clear you mean anything at all.
I ask because Germany and other European countries were only able to dig themselves out of the hole WWII left them in because the US gave you $100 billion to fix yourselves. We also heavily occupied Japan and Germany militarily and forcibly rebuilt them. So when you say that the post WWII economic boom will happen again, you surely must mean that the US will be doing analogous things such as giving you large sums of money and militarily occupying you.
Unless that's not what you mean but then it's not clear you mean anything at all.
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Anonymous I replied with this 7 years ago, 29 minutes later, 13 hours after the original post[^] [v] #982,071
@previous (Fake anon !ZkUt8arUCU)
That $100b figure is derived from inflation adjustments since 1948; the actual sum was twelve thousand million dollars.
Devaluation of currency has happened so fast since we moved to fiat currency. We ought by right to go back to the gold standard, except Gordon Brown sold our stocks for next to nothing years ago.
That $100b figure is derived from inflation adjustments since 1948; the actual sum was twelve thousand million dollars.
Devaluation of currency has happened so fast since we moved to fiat currency. We ought by right to go back to the gold standard, except Gordon Brown sold our stocks for next to nothing years ago.
Fake anon !ZkUt8arUCU replied with this 7 years ago, 7 minutes later, 13 hours after the original post[^] [v] #982,079
@previous (I)
Yeah I just meant like that's how much we'd have to give today to achieve the same result. Not to mention how artificially weak the economy of the UK was because a huge portion of its labor force was in the military and therefore producing no meaningful economic value, and the capital city lay in ruins from air raids
There were a lot of very straightforward ways of improving the economy dramatically. You just needed some cash and time to kickstart the process.
There is no analogous untapped economic potential in the UK now. I m not British so I don't really give a shit about your country, but if these are the rationales of the people who won, holy shit I'd be pissed. They tanked your economic future for nothing, and put zero thought into how the world they wanted could even function.
Yeah I just meant like that's how much we'd have to give today to achieve the same result. Not to mention how artificially weak the economy of the UK was because a huge portion of its labor force was in the military and therefore producing no meaningful economic value, and the capital city lay in ruins from air raids
There were a lot of very straightforward ways of improving the economy dramatically. You just needed some cash and time to kickstart the process.
There is no analogous untapped economic potential in the UK now. I m not British so I don't really give a shit about your country, but if these are the rationales of the people who won, holy shit I'd be pissed. They tanked your economic future for nothing, and put zero thought into how the world they wanted could even function.
Anonymous E replied with this 7 years ago, 13 minutes later, 13 hours after the original post[^] [v] #982,081
Anonymous I replied with this 7 years ago, 4 minutes later, 13 hours after the original post[^] [v] #982,082
@982,079 (Fake anon !ZkUt8arUCU)
Everyone said that we were putting more money in than we were getting out, that EU-enforced austerity measures were hurting the poor, that the NHS and benefits system was bloated with freeloaders, and that freedom of movement was destroying British exceptionalism.
Everyone said that we were putting more money in than we were getting out, that EU-enforced austerity measures were hurting the poor, that the NHS and benefits system was bloated with freeloaders, and that freedom of movement was destroying British exceptionalism.
Fake anon !ZkUt8arUCU replied with this 7 years ago, 13 minutes later, 13 hours after the original post[^] [v] #982,083
@previous (I)
None of that is true, or to the extent it is true (austerity hurting the poor), it's insincere (the Tories are not actually concerned about the plight of the underclass).
But idk, try telling that to svet who thinks his own mother is going to be raped tonight by a brown Muslim migrant. His attention has been focused by the most powerful in society onto the "threat" posed by the least powerful.
None of that is true, or to the extent it is true (austerity hurting the poor), it's insincere (the Tories are not actually concerned about the plight of the underclass).
But idk, try telling that to svet who thinks his own mother is going to be raped tonight by a brown Muslim migrant. His attention has been focused by the most powerful in society onto the "threat" posed by the least powerful.
Syntax replied with this 7 years ago, 38 minutes later, 14 hours after the original post[^] [v] #982,086
@982,058 (Svet !jzYkdX7lIw)
> The point being is that you should never underestimate a large dynamic economy like the UKs. Look how Japan and Germany recovered after ww2. I thought your people were good at this sort of thing?
@982,063 (Svet !jzYkdX7lIw)
> No don't expect a Marshall plan. I'm saying hard working dynamic countries can dig themselves out of any hole and still end up near the top. Christ, what is wrong with you? Did you, like syntax bet your shekels on the brexit vote to lose?
Svet Japan and Germany recovered only because USA bailed them OUT -
Also I have totally recovered from my loss on betting on Brexit.
If you had your way you wood be speaking German and saluting Nazi Brit regime.
Svet you are really saying that NO MATTER HOW BAD A Deal any Deal is OK with you. That actually was what the referendum was all about - Lets Brexit withOut a deal and see where the chips fall. Or the Brits trusted their crazy mixed up politicians to make one hell of a deal and all will be just Perfect.
Great to see you have no fears n no cares and figure somehow it will all work out for the best.
Good thing your Lighting Designer provides no plan on how to light a show -
> The point being is that you should never underestimate a large dynamic economy like the UKs. Look how Japan and Germany recovered after ww2. I thought your people were good at this sort of thing?
@982,063 (Svet !jzYkdX7lIw)
> No don't expect a Marshall plan. I'm saying hard working dynamic countries can dig themselves out of any hole and still end up near the top. Christ, what is wrong with you? Did you, like syntax bet your shekels on the brexit vote to lose?
Svet Japan and Germany recovered only because USA bailed them OUT -
Also I have totally recovered from my loss on betting on Brexit.
If you had your way you wood be speaking German and saluting Nazi Brit regime.
Svet you are really saying that NO MATTER HOW BAD A Deal any Deal is OK with you. That actually was what the referendum was all about - Lets Brexit withOut a deal and see where the chips fall. Or the Brits trusted their crazy mixed up politicians to make one hell of a deal and all will be just Perfect.
Great to see you have no fears n no cares and figure somehow it will all work out for the best.
Good thing your Lighting Designer provides no plan on how to light a show -
Father Merrin !u5oFWxmY7U joined in and replied with this 7 years ago, 46 seconds later, 14 hours after the original post[^] [v] #982,087
@982,083 (Fake anon !ZkUt8arUCU)
> His attention has been focused by the most powerful in society onto the "threat" posed by the least powerful.
Pretty much this. Brexiteers have a curious brand of schizophrenic optimism. Immigrants coming to Britain = "Our survival as a nation is under threat!" Senselessly wrecking their own economic and geopolitical leverage = "We're Brits, nothing can destroy us!"
> His attention has been focused by the most powerful in society onto the "threat" posed by the least powerful.
Pretty much this. Brexiteers have a curious brand of schizophrenic optimism. Immigrants coming to Britain = "Our survival as a nation is under threat!" Senselessly wrecking their own economic and geopolitical leverage = "We're Brits, nothing can destroy us!"
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Anonymous M joined in and replied with this 7 years ago, 1 hour later, 15 hours after the original post[^] [v] #982,109
Sheila LaBoof replied with this 7 years ago, 39 minutes later, 16 hours after the original post[^] [v] #982,116
there is a phrase for the mentality, "have your cake and eat it too"
you want to get of a deal but have a deal at the exact same time as you got out of the deal
fuck off
you want to get of a deal but have a deal at the exact same time as you got out of the deal
fuck off
