Topic: The Syrians i associate with
Anonymous A started this discussion 7 years ago #85,625
They are friendly and hard working. I am confused though, the elephant in the room is always that they came from Syria,for me a anyway, yet that elephant is so easy to miss because there's really nothing that would make you realize that. People who escaped from a war torn country are apparently still very much like us who don't.
Anonymous B joined in and replied with this 7 years ago, 58 seconds later[^] [v] #980,842
Why does that confuse you
Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 7 years ago, 4 minutes later, 5 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #980,843
@previous (B)
Because I'm thinking it's a big deal that they are from Syria, it's a big deal in the sense that i think about it a lot. But somehow the subject never comes up.
Because I'm thinking it's a big deal that they are from Syria, it's a big deal in the sense that i think about it a lot. But somehow the subject never comes up.
Anonymous B replied with this 7 years ago, 49 seconds later, 5 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #980,844
Anonymous B double-posted this 7 years ago, 1 minute later, 7 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #980,845
@980,843 (A)
What is confusing you is not the fact that these people are Syrian, but your reaction to that fact.
What is confusing you is not the fact that these people are Syrian, but your reaction to that fact.
Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 7 years ago, 17 minutes later, 25 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #980,848
@980,844 (B)
@previous (B)
That's very insightful but in this very particular case, there's enough reason to believe that my subjective reality is similar to others when it regards Syrians. So I expect and almost feel duty bound to address it all the time, I tell myself this is neither the time nor the place and I don't address it but it somehow feels like a dick move, it's like, hello young man that I know had to flee for his life, hello and by the way I don't care.
@previous (B)
That's very insightful but in this very particular case, there's enough reason to believe that my subjective reality is similar to others when it regards Syrians. So I expect and almost feel duty bound to address it all the time, I tell myself this is neither the time nor the place and I don't address it but it somehow feels like a dick move, it's like, hello young man that I know had to flee for his life, hello and by the way I don't care.
Anonymous B replied with this 7 years ago, 4 minutes later, 29 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #980,849
@previous (A)
So you're experiencing cognitive dissonance between your like for your Syrian friends and the dislike you apparently have for Syrians.
So you're experiencing cognitive dissonance between your like for your Syrian friends and the dislike you apparently have for Syrians.
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Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 7 years ago, 14 minutes later, 44 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #980,854
@previous (B)
I don't know how i appeared to dislike Syrians but I have a guess.
It's like im saying to the Syrians, through my silence on the Syrian issue, that I do not care. Each time that I don't ask them about it, then it feels like I'm telling them that I don't care. I feel forced to not bother them with "me caring" and yet I also feel forced to have to ask them about it.
I don't know how i appeared to dislike Syrians but I have a guess.
It's like im saying to the Syrians, through my silence on the Syrian issue, that I do not care. Each time that I don't ask them about it, then it feels like I'm telling them that I don't care. I feel forced to not bother them with "me caring" and yet I also feel forced to have to ask them about it.
Meta !Sober//iZs joined in and replied with this 7 years ago, 11 minutes later, 55 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #980,858
If you tell them you're also upset about the Golan Heights it could be a good way to bond ?
Anonymous B replied with this 7 years ago, 11 hours later, 12 hours after the original post[^] [v] #980,935
@980,854 (A)
And so we return to my original observation which is that it is not the Syrian which is the problem, but how you choose to react to the Syrian.
And so we return to my original observation which is that it is not the Syrian which is the problem, but how you choose to react to the Syrian.
Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 7 years ago, 6 hours later, 18 hours after the original post[^] [v] #980,995
@previous (B)
Yes, the Syrians is not the issue here. The issue is that they are from syria and how that either matters or not.
Yes, the Syrians is not the issue here. The issue is that they are from syria and how that either matters or not.
Anonymous B replied with this 7 years ago, 2 hours later, 20 hours after the original post[^] [v] #981,054
@previous (A)
That's just a fact, the issue is the distress caused by your opinion of that fact and the ultimate solution is to understand that making a mountain out of a molehill doesn't work.
That's just a fact, the issue is the distress caused by your opinion of that fact and the ultimate solution is to understand that making a mountain out of a molehill doesn't work.
Anonymous D joined in and replied with this 7 years ago, 5 minutes later, 20 hours after the original post[^] [v] #981,057
@980,995 (A)
> Yes, the Syrians is not the issue here. The issue is that they are from syria and how that either matters or not.
im always very glad not to be you when I read these posts
> Yes, the Syrians is not the issue here. The issue is that they are from syria and how that either matters or not.
im always very glad not to be you when I read these posts
Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 7 years ago, 25 minutes later, 21 hours after the original post[^] [v] #981,073
@981,054 (B)
@previous (D)
Mhm, I guess it's not a mountain. It's still a bit confusing though, in the ontological sense. Having your home, and more, destroyed by war is a terrible thing yet there the Syrians are and you couldn't tell by looking at them but they come from a place where reality disintegrated into hell itself. You see, the confusing part is that "objective reality" doesn't recognize this as a big deal despite all the news and anxieties about the Syrian conflict. Our collective "subjective reality" which includes our concerns and fears about the Syrian conflict, it's not something that can be expressed naturally, even with Syrians themselves. This is what confuses me.
@previous (D)
Mhm, I guess it's not a mountain. It's still a bit confusing though, in the ontological sense. Having your home, and more, destroyed by war is a terrible thing yet there the Syrians are and you couldn't tell by looking at them but they come from a place where reality disintegrated into hell itself. You see, the confusing part is that "objective reality" doesn't recognize this as a big deal despite all the news and anxieties about the Syrian conflict. Our collective "subjective reality" which includes our concerns and fears about the Syrian conflict, it's not something that can be expressed naturally, even with Syrians themselves. This is what confuses me.
Anonymous B replied with this 7 years ago, 2 hours later, 23 hours after the original post[^] [v] #981,109
@previous (A)
In objective reality, nothing is a big deal because everything happens as it was meant to happen. Also, there is no such thing as a collective subjective reality.
In objective reality, nothing is a big deal because everything happens as it was meant to happen. Also, there is no such thing as a collective subjective reality.
Sheila LaBoof joined in and replied with this 7 years ago, 13 minutes later, 23 hours after the original post[^] [v] #981,113
The golden hamster, the first breed of popular pet hamsters, are also known as Syrian hamsters, since in fact they were sourced from a set taken from Syria, where they live free.
Sheila LaBoof double-posted this 7 years ago, 2 minutes later, 23 hours after the original post[^] [v] #981,114
Kook !!rcSrAtaAC joined in and replied with this 7 years ago, 3 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #981,115
beckyderp !TInYDicKMI joined in and replied with this 7 years ago, 3 hours later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #981,167
@981,113 (Sheila LaBoof)
Do you think hamsters are happy generally speaking? Like hamsters people keep in cages?
Do you think hamsters are happy generally speaking? Like hamsters people keep in cages?
Sheila LaBoof replied with this 7 years ago, 2 hours later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #981,185
The small rodents generally have short lives in the wild, so a cared-for pet should at least be more likely to survive. Beyond that, considerations should be met for enclosure size, objects in there for interest and variety, being kept alone or with others depending on whether the species is solitary or social, and so on. There is plenty out there that people can read/watch for advice. What would be better for hamsters and wildlife generally is if people on the societal/civilization level gave a shit enough to not fuck the shit out their habitats. Most kinds of wildlife are no where near the population levels of even the recent past, even Syrian hamsters.
Anonymous H joined in and replied with this 7 years ago, 3 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #981,186
Syrians are fags..
Sheila LaBoof replied with this 7 years ago, 9 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #981,193
Now here's an interesting thing -- imagine a wild rodent, a vole, encountering an excercise wheel outdoors. He doesn't need that for excercise. He's not within a small area. But eventually he seems to decide that the wheel is fun.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8vNysOiwu_Q
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8vNysOiwu_Q
Ghost Anon !!4ieBej4Cq joined in and replied with this 7 years ago, 6 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #981,194
Anonymous D replied with this 7 years ago, 59 seconds later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #981,196
@981,167 (beckyderp !TInYDicKMI)
> Do you think hamsters are happy generally speaking? Like hamsters people keep in cages?
idk, they are assholes when you keep them alone and assholes when you keep them together. they get bored really easily. they're nocturnal and they're foragers. not particularly social. i don't think they would be very happy no matter what
hamsters are weird
> Do you think hamsters are happy generally speaking? Like hamsters people keep in cages?
idk, they are assholes when you keep them alone and assholes when you keep them together. they get bored really easily. they're nocturnal and they're foragers. not particularly social. i don't think they would be very happy no matter what
hamsters are weird
Sheila LaBoof replied with this 7 years ago, 37 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #981,223
wow that garfield is an asshole
Ghost Anon !!4ieBej4Cq replied with this 7 years ago, 5 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #981,225
Anonymous H replied with this 7 years ago, 1 minute later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #981,226
@981,223 (Sheila LaBoof)
That's just ghost anon's perciveriance of Garfield..
Ghost anon's obvious mental incompetence is being missed here..
That's just ghost anon's perciveriance of Garfield..
Ghost anon's obvious mental incompetence is being missed here..
Ghost Anon !!4ieBej4Cq replied with this 7 years ago, 1 minute later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #981,227
Anonymous H replied with this 7 years ago, 52 seconds later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #981,228
Ghost Anon !!4ieBej4Cq replied with this 7 years ago, 1 minute later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #981,229
MISSOULA, MONTANA joined in and replied with this 7 years ago, 2 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #981,230
Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 7 years ago, 12 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #981,231
@981,109 (B)
> In objective reality, nothing is a big deal because everything happens as it was meant to happen. Also, there is no such thing as a collective subjective reality.
Quite right except, well except for the second part. There'd be no language if there wasn't a collective subjective reality.
> In objective reality, nothing is a big deal because everything happens as it was meant to happen. Also, there is no such thing as a collective subjective reality.
Quite right except, well except for the second part. There'd be no language if there wasn't a collective subjective reality.
Anonymous B replied with this 7 years ago, 3 hours later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #981,249
@previous (A)
There are many individual subjective realities. Language is just an agreed upon series of noises that represent concepts and nothing mystical!
There are many individual subjective realities. Language is just an agreed upon series of noises that represent concepts and nothing mystical!
Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 7 years ago, 30 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #981,256
@previous (B)
It still depends on who you ask what something is called. Maybe the most famous example being what is evil and what is good?
It still depends on who you ask what something is called. Maybe the most famous example being what is evil and what is good?
Anonymous H replied with this 7 years ago, 3 hours later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #981,263
@previous (A)
Just because fags say taking it the ass is ok doesnt make it true..
Just because fags say taking it the ass is ok doesnt make it true..
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Anonymous B replied with this 7 years ago, 5 hours later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #981,309
@981,256 (A)
Good and Evil are just more perceptions of the objective world, in the objective world there is no good and Evil because it is only in the subjective world, the world as interpreted by your senses and mind, that one can consider the meaning of a word.
A man kicks a dog. Is it good or evil? Depends who you ask and how their minds interpret the action. Objectively, it means nothing; it's just a thing that happened.
Good and Evil are just more perceptions of the objective world, in the objective world there is no good and Evil because it is only in the subjective world, the world as interpreted by your senses and mind, that one can consider the meaning of a word.
A man kicks a dog. Is it good or evil? Depends who you ask and how their minds interpret the action. Objectively, it means nothing; it's just a thing that happened.
Anonymous D replied with this 7 years ago, 36 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #981,328
Anonymous D double-posted this 7 years ago, 19 seconds later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #981,329
Kook !!rcSrAtaAC replied with this 7 years ago, 3 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #981,334
Ive met a few Syrians. Both said that Syrians were good people unless they were Muslims. Lmao
Anonymous K joined in and replied with this 7 years ago, 52 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #981,346
Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 7 years ago, 9 hours later, 2 days after the original post[^] [v] #981,412
@981,309 (B)
Yes and people share these perceptions, even enforce them together. Therefore, it's a collective subjective reality.
Yes and people share these perceptions, even enforce them together. Therefore, it's a collective subjective reality.
Anonymous B replied with this 7 years ago, 5 hours later, 2 days after the original post[^] [v] #981,473
@previous (A)
But you can't know that because all you have is a subjective perspective of other people's actions. And even if people were... A beehive is not a single bee!
But you can't know that because all you have is a subjective perspective of other people's actions. And even if people were... A beehive is not a single bee!
Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 7 years ago, 21 minutes later, 2 days after the original post[^] [v] #981,474
@previous (B)
You can know, people can be studied. For example their culture? Culture has a great impact on people.
You can know, people can be studied. For example their culture? Culture has a great impact on people.
Anonymous B replied with this 7 years ago, 6 hours later, 2 days after the original post[^] [v] #981,503
@previous (A)Yes but can you know they are real, or is their apparent reality just a perception of your own subjective reality?
Sheila LaBoof replied with this 7 years ago, 2 hours later, 2 days after the original post[^] [v] #981,532
COCK
Anonymous L joined in and replied with this 7 years ago, 13 minutes later, 2 days after the original post[^] [v] #981,536
