Topic: Why not help homeless citizens instead of non citizens?
Anonymous A started this discussion 7 years ago #84,812
Maybe the resources from citizens could go to helping out other citizens? I know it sounds like a radical idea, but is it just crazy enough to work? Think of it as a perk of being a citizen.
People who are citizens of other countries can help others or not. It's up to them and what they do in their own country.
People who are citizens of other countries can help others or not. It's up to them and what they do in their own country.
MR STEVEN MNUCHIN joined in and replied with this 7 years ago, 2 minutes later[^] [v] #973,434
They do
Sheila LaBoof joined in and replied with this 7 years ago, 12 seconds later, 2 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #973,435
fuck it got things to do
Anonymous D joined in and replied with this 7 years ago, 48 seconds later, 3 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #973,436
Hope you do not mean bert. Hand him a dollar and it goes into his veins with drugs and stomach with everclear.
Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 7 years ago, 3 minutes later, 6 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #973,437
Anonymous E joined in and replied with this 7 years ago, 20 minutes later, 27 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #973,442
@OP
> Maybe the resources from citizens could go to helping out other citizens?
There is almost 300 Billion a years taken from taxpayers that are spent on people that are breaking the law just by breathing on U.S. soil..
Your idea makes very good sense..
> Maybe the resources from citizens could go to helping out other citizens?
There is almost 300 Billion a years taken from taxpayers that are spent on people that are breaking the law just by breathing on U.S. soil..
Your idea makes very good sense..
Anonymous D replied with this 7 years ago, 23 seconds later, 27 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #973,443
@973,437 (A)
Consider helping immigrants. They work hard and pay guberment taxes. They help USA grow. Bums citizens or not, drain the local and national economy.
Just because someone is a citizen does not mean they are good people. Prisons are full of US Citizens. Very few immigrants end up in prison.
Consider helping immigrants. They work hard and pay guberment taxes. They help USA grow. Bums citizens or not, drain the local and national economy.
Just because someone is a citizen does not mean they are good people. Prisons are full of US Citizens. Very few immigrants end up in prison.
Anonymous E replied with this 7 years ago, 16 minutes later, 43 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #973,445
Anonymous E double-posted this 7 years ago, 26 seconds later, 44 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #973,446
Over 250,000 criminal aliens were booked in Texas local jails between June 2011 and April 2018. These individuals were charged with more than 663,000 offenses, including:
1,351 homicide charges
79,049 assault charges
18,685 burglary charges
79,900 drug charges
815 kidnapping charges
44,882 theft charges
50,777 obstructing police charges
4,292 robbery charges
7,156 sexual assault charges
9,938 weapons charges.
1,351 homicide charges
79,049 assault charges
18,685 burglary charges
79,900 drug charges
815 kidnapping charges
44,882 theft charges
50,777 obstructing police charges
4,292 robbery charges
7,156 sexual assault charges
9,938 weapons charges.
Anonymous D triple-posted this 7 years ago, 2 minutes later, 46 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #973,447
They didn't du nuffin
Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 7 years ago, 6 minutes later, 53 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #973,450
@973,443 (D)
Of course immigrants would be helped, depending on how far along their path to citizenship they are. But illegal immigrants and non citizens like tourists shouldn't be helped by citizens instead of helping homeless people.
Citizens should also help veterans instead of non citizens.
Of course immigrants would be helped, depending on how far along their path to citizenship they are. But illegal immigrants and non citizens like tourists shouldn't be helped by citizens instead of helping homeless people.
Citizens should also help veterans instead of non citizens.
Fake anon !ZkUt8arUCU joined in and replied with this 7 years ago, 1 minute later, 54 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #973,452
Anonymous G joined in and replied with this 7 years ago, 1 minute later, 55 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #973,453
@973,450 (A)
How about we split the difference and just help *eligible veterans?
*No dishonorable discharge.
How about we split the difference and just help *eligible veterans?
*No dishonorable discharge.
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grrrrr replied with this 7 years ago, 11 minutes later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #973,454
@973,452 (Fake anon !ZkUt8arUCU)
Bert cannot call himself a veteran. Navy kicked him out for treason and other bad deeds.
Bert cannot call himself a veteran. Navy kicked him out for treason and other bad deeds.
Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 7 years ago, 2 minutes later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #973,455
Sheila LaBoof replied with this 7 years ago, 2 seconds later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #973,456
@973,446 (E)
> Over 250,000 criminal aliens were booked in Texas local jails between June 2011 and April 2018. These individuals were charged with more than 663,000 offenses, including:
>
> 1,351 homicide charges
> 79,049 assault charges
> 18,685 burglary charges
> 79,900 drug charges
> 815 kidnapping charges
> 44,882 theft charges
> 50,777 obstructing police charges
> 4,292 robbery charges
> 7,156 sexual assault charges
> 9,938 weapons charges.
could you subtract out the ones who were let into the country by the authorities but later overstayed their visas, and also sort by country of origin
> Over 250,000 criminal aliens were booked in Texas local jails between June 2011 and April 2018. These individuals were charged with more than 663,000 offenses, including:
>
> 1,351 homicide charges
> 79,049 assault charges
> 18,685 burglary charges
> 79,900 drug charges
> 815 kidnapping charges
> 44,882 theft charges
> 50,777 obstructing police charges
> 4,292 robbery charges
> 7,156 sexual assault charges
> 9,938 weapons charges.
could you subtract out the ones who were let into the country by the authorities but later overstayed their visas, and also sort by country of origin
Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 7 years ago, 37 seconds later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #973,458
Anonymous A (OP) double-posted this 7 years ago, 1 minute later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #973,459
Fake anon !ZkUt8arUCU replied with this 7 years ago, 46 seconds later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #973,460
@973,455 (A)
You worded it in a slightly ambiguous way. Plus as an American, you know illegal immigrants have extremely limited access to social services, and I assume you are also in favor of greatly expanding the social services available to US citizens, financed by tax increases.
You worded it in a slightly ambiguous way. Plus as an American, you know illegal immigrants have extremely limited access to social services, and I assume you are also in favor of greatly expanding the social services available to US citizens, financed by tax increases.
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Anonymous G replied with this 7 years ago, 1 minute later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #973,462
Sheila LaBoof replied with this 7 years ago, 59 seconds later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #973,463
Anonymous H joined in and replied with this 7 years ago, 26 seconds later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #973,465
@973,458 (A)
In my opinion bert represents why many citizens end up with dishonor. Unwilling to contribute to what really makes America great. Lot of hot air while he has his hand out asking for help.
OP I understand why you posted your topic. What grinds my gears over the many years is simple enough. There were those times a gal came up to me in a parking lot asking for a hand out. I said I bet you will go over to that liquor store and buy more alcohol and she smiled and said of course I will. I said I will be happy to buy you some food and she said no thanks - (I could see she was already drunk or on drugs) An enabler I am not going to be.
In my opinion bert represents why many citizens end up with dishonor. Unwilling to contribute to what really makes America great. Lot of hot air while he has his hand out asking for help.
OP I understand why you posted your topic. What grinds my gears over the many years is simple enough. There were those times a gal came up to me in a parking lot asking for a hand out. I said I bet you will go over to that liquor store and buy more alcohol and she smiled and said of course I will. I said I will be happy to buy you some food and she said no thanks - (I could see she was already drunk or on drugs) An enabler I am not going to be.
Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 7 years ago, 59 seconds later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #973,466
@973,460 (Fake anon !ZkUt8arUCU)
No greatly expanding no. The current allocation of resources from citizens should go to helping citizens, not to non citizens.
No greatly expanding no. The current allocation of resources from citizens should go to helping citizens, not to non citizens.
Anonymous E replied with this 7 years ago, 1 minute later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #973,467
@973,456 (Sheila LaBoof)
> >could you subtract out the ones who were let into the country by the authorities but later overstayed their visas, and also sort by country of origin
ie; non citizens
Why should those be seperate...listen closely..
If they 'overstayed' their visas they are just as illegal as the ones who snuck across the Rio grande..
> >could you subtract out the ones who were let into the country by the authorities but later overstayed their visas, and also sort by country of origin
ie; non citizens
Why should those be seperate...listen closely..
If they 'overstayed' their visas they are just as illegal as the ones who snuck across the Rio grande..
Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 7 years ago, 8 seconds later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #973,468
Fake anon !ZkUt8arUCU replied with this 7 years ago, 1 minute later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #973,470
@973,466 (A)
It does though! Medicare, Medicaid, TANF, etc. all overwhelmingly support US citizens. If you would like to increase the amount they support citizens, you will have to increase the amount of money flowing into them.
It does though! Medicare, Medicaid, TANF, etc. all overwhelmingly support US citizens. If you would like to increase the amount they support citizens, you will have to increase the amount of money flowing into them.
Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 7 years ago, 1 minute later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #973,472
@973,465 (H)
Citizens should help out their fellow citizens. It's not a merit system based on your personal morals and who you consider worthy of your help.
Citizens should help out their fellow citizens. It's not a merit system based on your personal morals and who you consider worthy of your help.
Anonymous A (OP) double-posted this 7 years ago, 1 minute later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #973,474
@973,470 (Fake anon !ZkUt8arUCU)
So an increase can be made by supporting citizens instead of non citizens. Yes.
So an increase can be made by supporting citizens instead of non citizens. Yes.
Anonymous I joined in and replied with this 7 years ago, 27 seconds later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #973,475
@973,472 (A)
> Citizens should help out their fellow citizens. It's not a merit system based on your personal morals and who you consider worthy of your help.
fuckin weird opinion bro
> Citizens should help out their fellow citizens. It's not a merit system based on your personal morals and who you consider worthy of your help.
fuckin weird opinion bro
Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 7 years ago, 3 minutes later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #973,476
@previous (I)
I would like to help my fellow countryman who has fallen on hard times, and would like to think he would help me too. I don't think people from other countries should help me or be helped by me. What they do in their country is up to them.
Citizens should help citizens instead of non citizens.
I would like to help my fellow countryman who has fallen on hard times, and would like to think he would help me too. I don't think people from other countries should help me or be helped by me. What they do in their country is up to them.
Citizens should help citizens instead of non citizens.
Anonymous G replied with this 7 years ago, 2 minutes later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #973,479
@previous (A)
We're all people, so why is global positioning so important to determining if somebody is "worthy of help?"
We're all people, so why is global positioning so important to determining if somebody is "worthy of help?"
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Fake anon !ZkUt8arUCU replied with this 7 years ago, 3 minutes later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #973,481
@973,474 (A)
Not in any meaningful way, no. Illegal immigrants by law can't get Medicare, medicaid, TANF, SNAP or Social Security except in incredibly niche circumstances.
It's not like 12 million illegal immigrants are using 50% of the public funding for social services lol.
Not in any meaningful way, no. Illegal immigrants by law can't get Medicare, medicaid, TANF, SNAP or Social Security except in incredibly niche circumstances.
It's not like 12 million illegal immigrants are using 50% of the public funding for social services lol.
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Syntax replied with this 7 years ago, 1 minute later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #973,483
@973,476 (A)
Only minutes left b4 I depart for Real Life Fun
OP - Betting that Your heritage is of Immigrants SO Why was it OK for THEM to enter USA and not for others? Fact is You will never pick fruits/veggies or do dirty dishes in restaurants or work on a garbage truck -
Only minutes left b4 I depart for Real Life Fun
OP - Betting that Your heritage is of Immigrants SO Why was it OK for THEM to enter USA and not for others? Fact is You will never pick fruits/veggies or do dirty dishes in restaurants or work on a garbage truck -
Anonymous I replied with this 7 years ago, 24 seconds later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #973,484
@973,476 (A)
> Citizens should help citizens instead of non citizens
what's the god damned difference
> Citizens should help citizens instead of non citizens
what's the god damned difference
Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 7 years ago, 3 minutes later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #973,487
@973,479 (G)
Citizenship is the determining factor. Not everyone shares the same world view, so people in those countries should be able to decide for themselves.
Citizenship is the determining factor. Not everyone shares the same world view, so people in those countries should be able to decide for themselves.
Anonymous E replied with this 7 years ago, 3 minutes later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #973,489
@973,481 (Fake anon !ZkUt8arUCU)
https://www.sandiegouniontribune.com/opinion/the-conversation/sd-unauthorized-immigrants-health-care-california-20180521-htmlstory.html
https://www.sandiegouniontribune.com/opinion/the-conversation/sd-unauthorized-immigrants-health-care-california-20180521-htmlstory.html
Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 7 years ago, 10 seconds later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #973,490
@973,483 (Syntax)
I do not think immigrants should be an underclass of dishwashers and garbage men. I think immigrants should be highly vetted and bring useful skill sets to a country and also have money to support themselves while working on their path to citizenship.
I do not think immigrants should be an underclass of dishwashers and garbage men. I think immigrants should be highly vetted and bring useful skill sets to a country and also have money to support themselves while working on their path to citizenship.
Sheila LaBoof replied with this 7 years ago, 33 seconds later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #973,491
@973,467 (E)
> >>could you subtract out the ones who were let into the country by the authorities but later overstayed their visas, and also sort by country of origin
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> ie; non citizens
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> Why should those be seperate...listen closely..
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> If they 'overstayed' their visas they are just as illegal as the ones who snuck across the Rio grande..
a wall would not have kept them out
perhaps you've heard about the emergency
I had assumed that the data was was with reference to the emergency, not some weird concern with visitors who were legally allowed in with no trouble, but had overstayed their welcome, shithead
> >>could you subtract out the ones who were let into the country by the authorities but later overstayed their visas, and also sort by country of origin
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>
> ie; non citizens
>
> Why should those be seperate...listen closely..
>
> If they 'overstayed' their visas they are just as illegal as the ones who snuck across the Rio grande..
a wall would not have kept them out
perhaps you've heard about the emergency
I had assumed that the data was was with reference to the emergency, not some weird concern with visitors who were legally allowed in with no trouble, but had overstayed their welcome, shithead
Sheila LaBoof double-posted this 7 years ago, 2 minutes later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #973,493
@973,476 (A)
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> Citizens should help citizens instead of non citizens.
That's too stupid
some citizens are garbage and I'd like to stomp on them
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> Citizens should help citizens instead of non citizens.
That's too stupid
some citizens are garbage and I'd like to stomp on them
Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 7 years ago, 1 minute later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #973,494
@973,491 (Sheila LaBoof)
They should be deported and not allowed back in to the country. Because they have broken the visitation rules and committed crimes against citizens.
They should be deported and not allowed back in to the country. Because they have broken the visitation rules and committed crimes against citizens.
Anonymous A (OP) double-posted this 7 years ago, 1 minute later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #973,495
@973,493 (Sheila LaBoof)
> It's not a merit system based on your personal morals and who you consider worthy of your help.
> It's not a merit system based on your personal morals and who you consider worthy of your help.
Kook !!rcSrAtaAC joined in and replied with this 7 years ago, 16 minutes later, 2 hours after the original post[^] [v] #973,506
Syntax replied with this 7 years ago, 11 minutes later, 2 hours after the original post[^] [v] #973,513
@previous (Kook !!rcSrAtaAC)> I do not think immigrants should be an underclass of dishwashers and garbage men.
Bottom line of course is WHO Else is going to do it. Agriculture depends on one massive amount of brown people doing the work White people will not do. Sad fact but without them none of us wood eat
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