Topic: Pope confirms 2nd miracle of Cardinal John Newman. England set for its first saint in centuries!
Father Merrin !u5oFWxmY7U started this discussion 7 years ago #84,160
https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-birmingham-47228423
The Pope has officially confirmed that the 19th century English priest Cardinal Newman has cured a pregnant woman of unstoppable bleeding. This makes it Cardinal Newman's 2nd confirmed miracle (his first was when his spirit was proven to have answered a man's prayer and cured him of his spinal disease), thus qualifying him for a sainthood.
Very exciting times for England. This will be their first saint since the Reformation!!
The Pope has officially confirmed that the 19th century English priest Cardinal Newman has cured a pregnant woman of unstoppable bleeding. This makes it Cardinal Newman's 2nd confirmed miracle (his first was when his spirit was proven to have answered a man's prayer and cured him of his spinal disease), thus qualifying him for a sainthood.
Very exciting times for England. This will be their first saint since the Reformation!!
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Anonymous B joined in and replied with this 7 years ago, 1 minute later[^] [v] #967,361
Cardinal John Newman. How many children did he sexually abuse. How many molesting priests did he protect and reassign.
Fake anon !ZkUt8arUCU joined in and replied with this 7 years ago, 1 minute later, 3 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #967,362
@previous (B)
The miracle is he molested 30 children and not one of them mentioned it. Hallelujah praise the Lord!
The miracle is he molested 30 children and not one of them mentioned it. Hallelujah praise the Lord!
Father Merrin !u5oFWxmY7U (OP) replied with this 7 years ago, 32 seconds later, 3 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #967,363
@967,361 (B)
> Cardinal John Newman. How many children did he sexually abuse.
None.
> How many molesting priests did he protect and reassign.
None.
Happy to have answered your questions my child!
> Cardinal John Newman. How many children did he sexually abuse.
None.
> How many molesting priests did he protect and reassign.
None.
Happy to have answered your questions my child!
Anonymous D joined in and replied with this 7 years ago, 6 minutes later, 10 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #967,371
@previous (Father Merrin !u5oFWxmY7U)
None? Odds are he molested children. Odds are if he were of sound mind, he fucked a few Nuns. Odds are he got a few pregnant and forced them to have abortions.
Catholic clergy very bad people overall.
None? Odds are he molested children. Odds are if he were of sound mind, he fucked a few Nuns. Odds are he got a few pregnant and forced them to have abortions.
Catholic clergy very bad people overall.
Sheila LaBoof joined in and replied with this 7 years ago, 1 minute later, 11 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #967,372
well you know, nuns have been known to accept babies at their doorstep
very convenient cover story
very convenient cover story
Father Merrin !u5oFWxmY7U (OP) replied with this 7 years ago, 58 seconds later, 12 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #967,373
Anonymous F joined in and replied with this 7 years ago, 35 seconds later, 13 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #967,374
@967,372 (Sheila LaBoof)
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/02/05/world/europe/pope-nuns-sexual-abuse.html
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/02/05/world/europe/pope-nuns-sexual-abuse.html
Anonymous G joined in and replied with this 7 years ago, 11 minutes later, 24 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #967,376
Kys, TG
Anonymous H joined in and replied with this 7 years ago, 1 hour later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #967,416
How are miracles verified? Just wait 300 years till any detractors are dead and then proclaim a legend fact?
Anonymous I joined in and replied with this 7 years ago, 45 seconds later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #967,417
@967,374 (F)
> “It’s true,” Francis said. “There are priests and bishops who have done that.”
Wow! Pope Francis threw his friends under the bus....
> “It’s true,” Francis said. “There are priests and bishops who have done that.”
Wow! Pope Francis threw his friends under the bus....
Fake anon !ZkUt8arUCU replied with this 7 years ago, 0 seconds later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #967,418
Anonymous J joined in and replied with this 7 years ago, 2 minutes later, 2 hours after the original post[^] [v] #967,419
@967,416 (H)
100 years from now the Church will rename itself the Catholic Pedophile Church. Should solve some of the current legal costs Church is forced to pay.
100 years from now the Church will rename itself the Catholic Pedophile Church. Should solve some of the current legal costs Church is forced to pay.
Anonymous K joined in and replied with this 7 years ago, 28 minutes later, 2 hours after the original post[^] [v] #967,423
@967,416 (H)
> How are miracles verified? Just wait 300 years till any detractors are dead and then proclaim a legend fact?
That's really their shtick. Vague second-hand accounts from decades or centuries ago are substantive proof when it comes to gospel apologetics and verifying miracles. Hundreds or thousands of reports of sexual misconduct from living people are barely worth noticing though. Apparently, they think evidence only happens in old books and documents.
> How are miracles verified? Just wait 300 years till any detractors are dead and then proclaim a legend fact?
That's really their shtick. Vague second-hand accounts from decades or centuries ago are substantive proof when it comes to gospel apologetics and verifying miracles. Hundreds or thousands of reports of sexual misconduct from living people are barely worth noticing though. Apparently, they think evidence only happens in old books and documents.
Anonymous L joined in and replied with this 7 years ago, 5 minutes later, 2 hours after the original post[^] [v] #967,425
@previous (K)
Somehow these so called saints can stop the bleeding of one person yet cannot stop a pedophile Priest - Bishop - Cardinal - Pope, from raping a child.
Somehow these so called saints can stop the bleeding of one person yet cannot stop a pedophile Priest - Bishop - Cardinal - Pope, from raping a child.
Anonymous I replied with this 7 years ago, 5 minutes later, 2 hours after the original post[^] [v] #967,427
Funny how TG became silent after Anon D busted his ass. Lol
Anonymous M joined in and replied with this 7 years ago, 2 minutes later, 2 hours after the original post[^] [v] #967,428
@previous (I)
> Funny how TG became silent after Anon D busted his ass. Lol
See:
@967,373 (Father Merrin !u5oFWxmY7U)
> Funny how TG became silent after Anon D busted his ass. Lol
See:
@967,373 (Father Merrin !u5oFWxmY7U)
Anonymous N joined in and replied with this 7 years ago, 5 minutes later, 2 hours after the original post[^] [v] #967,430
Father Dave from Russia.
Anonymous K replied with this 7 years ago, 3 minutes later, 2 hours after the original post[^] [v] #967,432
Don't we know how to stop bleeding now? Isn't that pretty well understood? Don't medical professionals do that all the time? Why is that a miracle? This guy's other miracle involved some dude praying about him after a complicated surgery. That's less a miracle and more just straight misattribution. If some person gets Shake it Off stuck in their head in the dentist's waiting room and it goes through their head during a root canal, I don't think Taylor Swift's magic fixed their teeth. Why is it okay for these priests to steal all the glory from doctors actually doing the work?
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Anonymous I replied with this 7 years ago, 1 minute later, 2 hours after the original post[^] [v] #967,433
@967,428 (M)
See @967,374 (F)
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/02/05/world/europe/pope-nuns-sexual-abuse.html
See @967,374 (F)
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/02/05/world/europe/pope-nuns-sexual-abuse.html
Anonymous N replied with this 7 years ago, 15 seconds later, 2 hours after the original post[^] [v] #967,434
Honk.
Father Merrin !u5oFWxmY7U (OP) replied with this 7 years ago, 2 hours later, 5 hours after the original post[^] [v] #967,498
Father Merrin !u5oFWxmY7U (OP) double-posted this 7 years ago, 6 minutes later, 5 hours after the original post[^] [v] #967,500
@967,416 (H)
> How are miracles verified? Just wait 300 years till any detractors are dead and then proclaim a legend fact?
300 years? Try 2010 for the first miracle and earlier this month for the second!
As for the verification:
"An expectant mother was suffering from unstoppable internal bleeding which threatened the life of her child in the womb,” the diocese of Westminster said on its website.
“She had long been a devotee of Blessed John Henry, and in prayer she directly and explicitly invoked Newman’s intercession to stop the bleeding. The miraculous healing was immediate, complete, and permanent.”
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2019/02/13/british-cardinal-john-henry-newman-made-saint-pope-recognises/
> How are miracles verified? Just wait 300 years till any detractors are dead and then proclaim a legend fact?
300 years? Try 2010 for the first miracle and earlier this month for the second!
As for the verification:
"An expectant mother was suffering from unstoppable internal bleeding which threatened the life of her child in the womb,” the diocese of Westminster said on its website.
“She had long been a devotee of Blessed John Henry, and in prayer she directly and explicitly invoked Newman’s intercession to stop the bleeding. The miraculous healing was immediate, complete, and permanent.”
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2019/02/13/british-cardinal-john-henry-newman-made-saint-pope-recognises/
Father Merrin !u5oFWxmY7U (OP) triple-posted this 7 years ago, 1 minute later, 5 hours after the original post[^] [v] #967,501
@967,427 (I)
> Funny how TG became silent after Anon D busted his ass.
I replied to him 2 posts later asking for proof of his claim. He has since, as you say, "become silent". Pay attention my boy.
> Funny how TG became silent after Anon D busted his ass.
I replied to him 2 posts later asking for proof of his claim. He has since, as you say, "become silent". Pay attention my boy.
Father Merrin !u5oFWxmY7U (OP) quadruple-posted this 7 years ago, 5 minutes later, 5 hours after the original post[^] [v] #967,503
@967,423 (K)
> Vague second-hand accounts from decades or centuries ago are substantive proof when it comes to gospel apologetics and verifying miracles.
The miracles were in 2010 and 2019, not "decades or centuries ago". But don't let such pesky things as 'facts' get in the way of your narrative.
> Hundreds or thousands of reports of sexual misconduct from living people are barely worth noticing though.
On the contrary, the Catholic hierarchy leads the way in fighting sexual abuse.
> Apparently, they think evidence only happens in old books and documents.
Lol, oh you're the "evidence" guy from the other thread. The one who thinks an accusation constitutes the legal definition of "evidence". Very well, carry on with your baseless waffle. You amuse me when you write it :) And have yourself a blessed evening my child!
> Vague second-hand accounts from decades or centuries ago are substantive proof when it comes to gospel apologetics and verifying miracles.
The miracles were in 2010 and 2019, not "decades or centuries ago". But don't let such pesky things as 'facts' get in the way of your narrative.
> Hundreds or thousands of reports of sexual misconduct from living people are barely worth noticing though.
On the contrary, the Catholic hierarchy leads the way in fighting sexual abuse.
> Apparently, they think evidence only happens in old books and documents.
Lol, oh you're the "evidence" guy from the other thread. The one who thinks an accusation constitutes the legal definition of "evidence". Very well, carry on with your baseless waffle. You amuse me when you write it :) And have yourself a blessed evening my child!
What the Fuck? replied with this 7 years ago, 13 minutes later, 5 hours after the original post[^] [v] #967,506
@previous (Father Merrin !u5oFWxmY7U)
This Cardinal - He died 11 August 1890. People century plus later pray to a dead Cardinal? Why a dead Cardinal and not the son of God or God herself?
Yea I know people pray to dead virgin Mary. To bad the people of USA did not pray to this Cardinal during the September 11, 2001 Bin Laden attack.
This Cardinal - He died 11 August 1890. People century plus later pray to a dead Cardinal? Why a dead Cardinal and not the son of God or God herself?
Yea I know people pray to dead virgin Mary. To bad the people of USA did not pray to this Cardinal during the September 11, 2001 Bin Laden attack.
Father Merrin !u5oFWxmY7U (OP) replied with this 7 years ago, 7 minutes later, 5 hours after the original post[^] [v] #967,508
@previous (What the Fuck?)
> This Cardinal - He died 11 August 1890. People century plus later pray to a dead Cardinal? Why a dead Cardinal and not the son of God or God herself?
Because the "dead Cardinal" had already been beatified, which if you don't know what that means (you clearly don't) is a recognition accorded by the Catholic Church of a dead person's entrance into Heaven and their capacity to intercede on behalf of individuals who pray in his or her name.
We've been over this before Syntax but I shall nonetheless repeat it: you would be better able to join in these discussions if you had the first clue what you are talking about.
> To bad the people of USA did not pray to this Cardinal during the September 11, 2001 Bin Laden attack.
I agree. Perhaps then it wouldn't have happened.
> This Cardinal - He died 11 August 1890. People century plus later pray to a dead Cardinal? Why a dead Cardinal and not the son of God or God herself?
Because the "dead Cardinal" had already been beatified, which if you don't know what that means (you clearly don't) is a recognition accorded by the Catholic Church of a dead person's entrance into Heaven and their capacity to intercede on behalf of individuals who pray in his or her name.
We've been over this before Syntax but I shall nonetheless repeat it: you would be better able to join in these discussions if you had the first clue what you are talking about.
> To bad the people of USA did not pray to this Cardinal during the September 11, 2001 Bin Laden attack.
I agree. Perhaps then it wouldn't have happened.
Anonymous O joined in and replied with this 7 years ago, 7 minutes later, 5 hours after the original post[^] [v] #967,509
Anonymous P joined in and replied with this 7 years ago, 27 minutes later, 6 hours after the original post[^] [v] #967,518
https://www.ncronline.org/social-tags/pedophilia
Vatican confirms investigation is underway of bishop for abuse, misconduct
A bishop from Argentina who had been working for the Pople in the Vatican's office is the object of a preliminary diocesan investigation after accusations came to light of sexual abuse.
Four pages about the quality of life for children in the Catholic Church.
Vatican confirms investigation is underway of bishop for abuse, misconduct
A bishop from Argentina who had been working for the Pople in the Vatican's office is the object of a preliminary diocesan investigation after accusations came to light of sexual abuse.
Four pages about the quality of life for children in the Catholic Church.
Anonymous K replied with this 7 years ago, 2 hours later, 8 hours after the original post[^] [v] #967,570
@967,503 (Father Merrin !u5oFWxmY7U)
> On the contrary, the Catholic hierarchy leads the way in fighting sexual abuse.
You misspelled committing.
> On the contrary, the Catholic hierarchy leads the way in fighting sexual abuse.
You misspelled committing.
Anonymous I replied with this 7 years ago, 13 hours later, 22 hours after the original post[^] [v] #967,757
@967,501 (Father Merrin !u5oFWxmY7U)
And you failed to reply to this, why?
See @967,374 (F)
> https://www.nytimes.com/2019/02/05/world/europe/pope-nuns-sexual-abuse.html
And you failed to reply to this, why?
See @967,374 (F)
> https://www.nytimes.com/2019/02/05/world/europe/pope-nuns-sexual-abuse.html
Toilet Seat !TOD33vFX8s double-posted this 7 years ago, 3 minutes later, 22 hours after the original post[^] [v] #967,762
Holy Fuck!!! I should be recognized as a saint!!!
Check this out. My next door neighbor's kid was outside and cut himself picking up a piece of broken glass to throw away.
Me, the cool neighbor that I am, put a bandaid on his cut, and the bleeding stopped.
Whew, poor kid could have bled to death if it wasn't for my quick thinking.
Check this out. My next door neighbor's kid was outside and cut himself picking up a piece of broken glass to throw away.
Me, the cool neighbor that I am, put a bandaid on his cut, and the bleeding stopped.
Whew, poor kid could have bled to death if it wasn't for my quick thinking.
Anonymous O replied with this 7 years ago, 22 minutes later, 22 hours after the original post[^] [v] #967,798
@previous (Toilet Seat !TOD33vFX8s)
No sainthood for you. That is only for Catholic's priest, who will put the band aid on kid and then later the kid needs anus repaired.
No sainthood for you. That is only for Catholic's priest, who will put the band aid on kid and then later the kid needs anus repaired.
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Anonymous Q joined in and replied with this 7 years ago, 1 minute later, 22 hours after the original post[^] [v] #967,801
@967,762 (Toilet Seat !TOD33vFX8s)
You have to stop the bleeding using magic tricks.
You have to stop the bleeding using magic tricks.
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Toilet Seat !TOD33vFX8s replied with this 7 years ago, 6 minutes later, 23 hours after the original post[^] [v] #967,814
@967,798 (O)
Fuck...... Next time the little bastard will bleed to death.
@previous (Q)
What? I made the bleeding stop with a bandaid..... Isn't that magical?
Fuck...... Next time the little bastard will bleed to death.
@previous (Q)
What? I made the bleeding stop with a bandaid..... Isn't that magical?
Anonymous Q replied with this 7 years ago, 58 seconds later, 23 hours after the original post[^] [v] #967,815
Toilet Seat !TOD33vFX8s replied with this 7 years ago, 1 minute later, 23 hours after the original post[^] [v] #967,817
@previous (Q)
Point taken. You got me there.
Now I need to go practice some magic that all these catholics claim to have.
Point taken. You got me there.
Now I need to go practice some magic that all these catholics claim to have.
Father Merrin !u5oFWxmY7U (OP) replied with this 7 years ago, 18 minutes later, 23 hours after the original post[^] [v] #967,827
@967,757 (I)
> And you failed to reply to this, why?
>
> See @967,374 (F)
>
> > https://www.nytimes.com/2019/02/05/world/europe/pope-nuns-sexual-abuse.html
Ummm, let's see...because I posted the story myself 6 days before he did and discussed it then:
http://minichan.org/topic/83929
You're not very bright are you?
> And you failed to reply to this, why?
>
> See @967,374 (F)
>
> > https://www.nytimes.com/2019/02/05/world/europe/pope-nuns-sexual-abuse.html
Ummm, let's see...because I posted the story myself 6 days before he did and discussed it then:
http://minichan.org/topic/83929
You're not very bright are you?
Father Merrin !u5oFWxmY7U (OP) double-posted this 7 years ago, 5 minutes later, 23 hours after the original post[^] [v] #967,833
@967,762 (Toilet Seat !TOD33vFX8s)
> Holy Fuck!!! I should be recognized as a saint!!!
You've performed two verified miracles?
> Check this out.
I'm ready.
> My next door neighbor's kid was outside and cut himself picking up a piece of broken glass to throw away.
Go on...
> Me, the cool neighbor that I am, put a bandaid on his cut, and the bleeding stopped.
You did right. Well done!
> Whew, poor kid could have bled to death if it wasn't for my quick thinking.
It's certainly possible.
Wait, was that it? Where's the rest? You ended your story early, where is the miracle part? You've written only up the point where you applied a bandaid to a wound and it stemmed the blood. Where's the part that is "not explicable by natural or scientific laws", i.e, the 'miracle'?
> Holy Fuck!!! I should be recognized as a saint!!!
You've performed two verified miracles?
> Check this out.
I'm ready.
> My next door neighbor's kid was outside and cut himself picking up a piece of broken glass to throw away.
Go on...
> Me, the cool neighbor that I am, put a bandaid on his cut, and the bleeding stopped.
You did right. Well done!
> Whew, poor kid could have bled to death if it wasn't for my quick thinking.
It's certainly possible.
Wait, was that it? Where's the rest? You ended your story early, where is the miracle part? You've written only up the point where you applied a bandaid to a wound and it stemmed the blood. Where's the part that is "not explicable by natural or scientific laws", i.e, the 'miracle'?
Anonymous R joined in and replied with this 7 years ago, 1 minute later, 23 hours after the original post[^] [v] #967,834
Anonymous S joined in and replied with this 7 years ago, 2 minutes later, 23 hours after the original post[^] [v] #967,835
@967,833 (Father Merrin !u5oFWxmY7U)
Miracle is he put a bandaid on instead of praying to a dead pedophile cardinal for help.
Miracle is he put a bandaid on instead of praying to a dead pedophile cardinal for help.
Father Merrin !u5oFWxmY7U (OP) replied with this 7 years ago, 18 seconds later, 23 hours after the original post[^] [v] #967,836
@967,814 (Toilet Seat !TOD33vFX8s)
> What? I made the bleeding stop with a bandaid..... Isn't that magical?
Deary me the level of education among some people here is shockingly deficient. Did you not study any science at all at school?
> What? I made the bleeding stop with a bandaid..... Isn't that magical?
Deary me the level of education among some people here is shockingly deficient. Did you not study any science at all at school?
Father Merrin !u5oFWxmY7U (OP) double-posted this 7 years ago, 34 seconds later, 23 hours after the original post[^] [v] #967,838
@967,835 (S)
> Miracle is he put a bandaid on instead of praying to a dead cardinal for help.
What is miraculous about that?
> Miracle is he put a bandaid on instead of praying to a dead cardinal for help.
What is miraculous about that?