Topic: Checkmate, Atheists!
Anonymous A started this discussion 7 years ago #83,323
God does, in fact, play dice with the universe.
https://youtu.be/yy6kaDaeDT8
https://youtu.be/yy6kaDaeDT8
Anonymous B joined in and replied with this 7 years ago, 2 minutes later[^] [v] #959,357
Does he play Yahtzee? Asking for a friend.
Anonymous C joined in and replied with this 7 years ago, 1 hour later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #959,370
I guess @OP didnt actually watch the video... the video says literally the opposite of OP's statement...
@OP must be Rworded.
@OP must be Rworded.
Sheila LaBoof joined in and replied with this 7 years ago, 5 hours later, 6 hours after the original post[^] [v] #959,510
also Chess?
Anonymous E joined in and replied with this 7 years ago, 8 minutes later, 7 hours after the original post[^] [v] #959,512
I like how a book written 5400 years ago AKA Bible has a Snake giving an Apple to Eve. She takes a bite and She and Adam are banned from Eden and then the so called God only provides a mass of Incest to propagate God in Mans image.
Anonymous F joined in and replied with this 7 years ago, 6 minutes later, 7 hours after the original post[^] [v] #959,513
Anonymous G joined in and replied with this 7 years ago, 10 minutes later, 7 hours after the original post[^] [v] #959,514
@959,512 (E)> I like how a book written 5400 years ago AKA Bible has a Snake giving an Apple to Eve. She takes a bite and She and Adam are banned from Eden and then the so called God only provides a mass of Incest to propagate God in Mans image.
what a dumb ass. and he put the butt too close to the pussy girls have cooties
Anonymous E replied with this 7 years ago, 4 minutes later, 7 hours after the original post[^] [v] #959,515
@959,513 (F)
So So very So Sorry that I used the Hebrew date as basis for the document - As back then they wood have had to crave in stone that massive book which ain't impossible but ain't so easy
"The first Biblical stories were passed down orally and only written down later by various authors. Most Biblical scholars believe the Book of Genesis was the first book to be written down. This would have happened around 1450 BC to 1400 BC. So perhaps about 3400 years or so ago."
So basically just Yesterday the Incest stuff was cast on paper rather than on stone as China invented paper around 100 BC and B4 that I find China writing stuff on bones 400 to 500 BC and of course those Egyptian hieroglyphs web says 3300 BC and even b4 other cast in stone scratches that mean something other than Gods instructions to go and begat via Incest
So So very So Sorry that I used the Hebrew date as basis for the document - As back then they wood have had to crave in stone that massive book which ain't impossible but ain't so easy
"The first Biblical stories were passed down orally and only written down later by various authors. Most Biblical scholars believe the Book of Genesis was the first book to be written down. This would have happened around 1450 BC to 1400 BC. So perhaps about 3400 years or so ago."
So basically just Yesterday the Incest stuff was cast on paper rather than on stone as China invented paper around 100 BC and B4 that I find China writing stuff on bones 400 to 500 BC and of course those Egyptian hieroglyphs web says 3300 BC and even b4 other cast in stone scratches that mean something other than Gods instructions to go and begat via Incest
Father Merrin !u5oFWxmY7U joined in and replied with this 7 years ago, 49 minutes later, 8 hours after the original post[^] [v] #959,528
@959,512 (E)
> I like how a book written 5400 years ago AKA Bible has a Snake giving an Apple to Eve. She takes a bite and She and Adam are banned from Eden and then the so called God only provides a mass of Incest to propagate God in Mans image.
The lesson to take from this idiotic post is that people who have no idea what they're talking about end up holding retarded opinions.
> I like how a book written 5400 years ago AKA Bible has a Snake giving an Apple to Eve. She takes a bite and She and Adam are banned from Eden and then the so called God only provides a mass of Incest to propagate God in Mans image.
The lesson to take from this idiotic post is that people who have no idea what they're talking about end up holding retarded opinions.
Father Merrin !u5oFWxmY7U double-posted this 7 years ago, 2 minutes later, 8 hours after the original post[^] [v] #959,530
@959,515 (E)
> So So very So Sorry that I used the Hebrew date as basis for the document - As back then they wood have had to crave in stone that massive book which ain't impossible but ain't so easy
>
> "The first Biblical stories were passed down orally and only written down later by various authors. Most Biblical scholars believe the Book of Genesis was the first book to be written down. This would have happened around 1450 BC to 1400 BC. So perhaps about 3400 years or so ago."
>
> So basically just Yesterday the Incest stuff was cast on paper rather than on stone as China invented paper around 100 BC and B4 that I find China writing stuff on bones 400 to 500 BC and of course those Egyptian hieroglyphs web says 3300 BC and even b4 other cast in stone scratches that mean something other than Gods instructions to go and begat via Incest
Have you ever seen that Simpsons episode where a befuddled and senile Grandpa says he pieced together his understanding of American history by what he read on the backs of sugar packets? That's like listening to you expound on Biblical and world history, except that you've replaced "sugar packets" with "half-understood bits and pieces of Wikipedia articles".
> So So very So Sorry that I used the Hebrew date as basis for the document - As back then they wood have had to crave in stone that massive book which ain't impossible but ain't so easy
>
> "The first Biblical stories were passed down orally and only written down later by various authors. Most Biblical scholars believe the Book of Genesis was the first book to be written down. This would have happened around 1450 BC to 1400 BC. So perhaps about 3400 years or so ago."
>
> So basically just Yesterday the Incest stuff was cast on paper rather than on stone as China invented paper around 100 BC and B4 that I find China writing stuff on bones 400 to 500 BC and of course those Egyptian hieroglyphs web says 3300 BC and even b4 other cast in stone scratches that mean something other than Gods instructions to go and begat via Incest
Have you ever seen that Simpsons episode where a befuddled and senile Grandpa says he pieced together his understanding of American history by what he read on the backs of sugar packets? That's like listening to you expound on Biblical and world history, except that you've replaced "sugar packets" with "half-understood bits and pieces of Wikipedia articles".
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Anonymous I joined in and replied with this 7 years ago, 4 minutes later, 8 hours after the original post[^] [v] #959,534
@previous (Father Merrin !u5oFWxmY7U)
How does the Catholic church explain the incest in genesis and why does the Catholic church continue to shield pedos from the law.
How does the Catholic church explain the incest in genesis and why does the Catholic church continue to shield pedos from the law.
Anonymous G replied with this 7 years ago, 6 minutes later, 8 hours after the original post[^] [v] #959,535
@previous (I)
Adam and Eve were genetically perfect so incest was ok. they lived for hundreds of years because they were close to god. but as time passed this changed, and it was when the aliens came and irriadiated humanity that we started mutating and dying off and lying with ones close relatives became taboo as it was decreed thusly in the book of Leviticus and also Deuteronomy:
“‘Do not have sexual relations with your father’s wife; that would dishonor your father.
“‘Do not have sexual relations with your sister, either your father’s daughter or your mother’s daughter, whether she was born in the same home or elsewhere.
“‘Do not have sexual relations with your son’s daughter or your daughter’s daughter; that would dishonor you.
“‘Do not have sexual relations with the daughter of your father’s wife, born to your father; she is your sister.
“‘Do not have sexual relations with your father’s sister; she is your father’s close relative.
“‘Do not have sexual relations with your mother’s sister, because she is your mother’s close relative.
“‘Do not dishonor your father’s brother by approaching his wife to have sexual relations; she is your aunt.
“‘Do not have sexual relations with your daughter-in-law. She is your son’s wife; do not have relations with her.
“‘Do not have sexual relations with your brother’s wife; that would dishonor your brother.
“‘Do not have sexual relations with both a woman and her daughter. Do not have sexual relations with either her son’s daughter or her daughter’s daughter; they are her close relatives. That is wickedness.
“'Do not take your wife’s sister as a rival wife and have sexual relations with her while your wife is living.
Adam and Eve were genetically perfect so incest was ok. they lived for hundreds of years because they were close to god. but as time passed this changed, and it was when the aliens came and irriadiated humanity that we started mutating and dying off and lying with ones close relatives became taboo as it was decreed thusly in the book of Leviticus and also Deuteronomy:
“‘Do not have sexual relations with your father’s wife; that would dishonor your father.
“‘Do not have sexual relations with your sister, either your father’s daughter or your mother’s daughter, whether she was born in the same home or elsewhere.
“‘Do not have sexual relations with your son’s daughter or your daughter’s daughter; that would dishonor you.
“‘Do not have sexual relations with the daughter of your father’s wife, born to your father; she is your sister.
“‘Do not have sexual relations with your father’s sister; she is your father’s close relative.
“‘Do not have sexual relations with your mother’s sister, because she is your mother’s close relative.
“‘Do not dishonor your father’s brother by approaching his wife to have sexual relations; she is your aunt.
“‘Do not have sexual relations with your daughter-in-law. She is your son’s wife; do not have relations with her.
“‘Do not have sexual relations with your brother’s wife; that would dishonor your brother.
“‘Do not have sexual relations with both a woman and her daughter. Do not have sexual relations with either her son’s daughter or her daughter’s daughter; they are her close relatives. That is wickedness.
“'Do not take your wife’s sister as a rival wife and have sexual relations with her while your wife is living.
Anonymous J joined in and replied with this 7 years ago, 7 minutes later, 8 hours after the original post[^] [v] #959,537
@previous (G)
> Adam and Eve were genetically perfect so incest was ok
Bullshit. If perfect, Eve would never have taken that bite of the apple. Remember God said she was made in his image. Adam as well. So God must have been a Hermaphrodite.
> Adam and Eve were genetically perfect so incest was ok
Bullshit. If perfect, Eve would never have taken that bite of the apple. Remember God said she was made in his image. Adam as well. So God must have been a Hermaphrodite.
Anonymous G replied with this 7 years ago, 1 hour later, 10 hours after the original post[^] [v] #959,557
Anonymous K joined in and replied with this 7 years ago, 3 minutes later, 10 hours after the original post[^] [v] #959,559
@959,534 (I)
> How does the Catholic church explain the incest in genesis
https://www.catholic.com/qa/why-incest-in-genesis-was-ok
> How does the Catholic church explain the incest in genesis
https://www.catholic.com/qa/why-incest-in-genesis-was-ok
Anonymous B replied with this 7 years ago, 3 minutes later, 10 hours after the original post[^] [v] #959,560
I'm still a little in the dark about the Yahtzee question.
Father Merrin !u5oFWxmY7U replied with this 7 years ago, 22 hours later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #959,818
@959,534 (I)
> How does the Catholic church explain the incest in genesis and why does the Catholic church continue to shield pedos from the law.
To which "incest in genesis" are you referring, and which instances of "the catholic church continuing to shield pedos from the law" are you referencing?
> How does the Catholic church explain the incest in genesis and why does the Catholic church continue to shield pedos from the law.
To which "incest in genesis" are you referring, and which instances of "the catholic church continuing to shield pedos from the law" are you referencing?
MR STEVEN MNUCHIN joined in and replied with this 7 years ago, 1 hour later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #959,826
Kook !!rcSrAtaAC joined in and replied with this 7 years ago, 1 hour later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #959,840
Father Merrin !u5oFWxmY7U replied with this 7 years ago, 1 day later, 3 days after the original post[^] [v] #960,213
@previous (Kook !!rcSrAtaAC)
> Weren't all of the original humans related?
It depends how you're defining "original humans" and "related".
> Weren't all of the original humans related?
It depends how you're defining "original humans" and "related".
Anonymous N joined in and replied with this 7 years ago, 3 hours later, 3 days after the original post[^] [v] #960,233
Kook !!rcSrAtaAC replied with this 7 years ago, 3 hours later, 3 days after the original post[^] [v] #960,324
Father Merrin !u5oFWxmY7U replied with this 7 years ago, 8 minutes later, 3 days after the original post[^] [v] #960,326
@previous (Kook !!rcSrAtaAC)
> How do you define original humans and related?
"Original humans" I don't define. It's not a term I ever use in any context. "Related" means belonging to the same group or type.
Now since you brought them up, how do you define them?
> How do you define original humans and related?
"Original humans" I don't define. It's not a term I ever use in any context. "Related" means belonging to the same group or type.
Now since you brought them up, how do you define them?
Kook !!rcSrAtaAC replied with this 7 years ago, 17 minutes later, 3 days after the original post[^] [v] #960,332
@previous (Father Merrin !u5oFWxmY7U)
Well Adam and Eve were literally the first humans right? I consider that to be original.
As for related, they are created from a shared body part, and then their children need with each other. So that is definitely incest in my opinion.
Well Adam and Eve were literally the first humans right? I consider that to be original.
As for related, they are created from a shared body part, and then their children need with each other. So that is definitely incest in my opinion.
Anonymous C replied with this 7 years ago, 3 minutes later, 3 days after the original post[^] [v] #960,334
@previous (Kook !!rcSrAtaAC)
didn't they invent the rules against incest shortly after they started multiplying?
didn't they invent the rules against incest shortly after they started multiplying?
Anon Z4 replied with this 7 years ago, 4 minutes later, 3 days after the original post[^] [v] #960,335
@previous (C)
In theory they were Jewish. As they multiplied they became Catholics. Catholics use the tool of pedophila to multiple even more. The Pope is unable to deal with this condrudum.
In theory they were Jewish. As they multiplied they became Catholics. Catholics use the tool of pedophila to multiple even more. The Pope is unable to deal with this condrudum.
Father Merrin !u5oFWxmY7U replied with this 7 years ago, 1 minute later, 3 days after the original post[^] [v] #960,336
@960,332 (Kook !!rcSrAtaAC)
> Well Adam and Eve were literally the first humans right? I consider that to be original.
Fair enough, if that's your definition. I just didn't know what you meant.
> As for related, they are created from a shared body part, and then their children need with each other. So that is definitely incest in my opinion.
I don't know what you mean by "their children need with each other". Need what?
> Well Adam and Eve were literally the first humans right? I consider that to be original.
Fair enough, if that's your definition. I just didn't know what you meant.
> As for related, they are created from a shared body part, and then their children need with each other. So that is definitely incest in my opinion.
I don't know what you mean by "their children need with each other". Need what?
Father Merrin !u5oFWxmY7U double-posted this 7 years ago, 9 minutes later, 3 days after the original post[^] [v] #960,340
@960,335 (Anon Z4)
> Catholics use the tool of pedophila to multiple even more.
How would pedophilia lead to 'multiple' (presumably 'multiplying') even more?
> Catholics use the tool of pedophila to multiple even more.
How would pedophilia lead to 'multiple' (presumably 'multiplying') even more?
Kook !!rcSrAtaAC replied with this 7 years ago, 42 seconds later, 3 days after the original post[^] [v] #960,341
Kook !!rcSrAtaAC double-posted this 7 years ago, 38 seconds later, 3 days after the original post[^] [v] #960,342
@960,334 (C)
I don't know how shortly after. It implies a few generations of incest at least, I believe
I don't know how shortly after. It implies a few generations of incest at least, I believe
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Father Merrin !u5oFWxmY7U replied with this 7 years ago, 1 minute later, 3 days after the original post[^] [v] #960,343
Anonymous J replied with this 7 years ago, 15 seconds later, 3 days after the original post[^] [v] #960,344
US priests 'molested over 1,000 children', report says
https://www.france24.com/en/20180815-usa-pennsylvania-priests-molested-over-1000-children-report-says-catholic-church
It is thought to be the single most comprehensive report to date into abuse in the US church, since The Boston Globe first exposed pedophile priests in Massachusetts in 2002.
But while Tuesday's report led to charges against two priests, one of whom has pleaded guilty, the majority of those responsible are dead and the vast majority of crimes happened too long ago to prosecute, officials said.
The two-year investigation by a grand jury into all but two Pennsylvania dioceses turned up dozens of witnesses and half a million pages of church records containing "credible allegations against over three hundred predator priests."
More than 1,000 child victims were identifiable, but the "real number" was "in the thousands," the grand jury estimated, given those children whose records were lost or who were afraid to ever come forward.
Victims were often traumatized for life, driven to drugs, alcohol and suicide, the grand jury said. The only recourse was to recommend changes to the law and expose what had happened to make sure such widespread abuse was never repeated.
One cleric raped a seven-year-old girl in hospital after she had her tonsils out, the report said. Another child drank juice, only to wake up the next morning bleeding from his rectum and unable to remember what had happened.
'Abuse, deny, cover up'
A priest forced a nine-year-old boy to give him oral sex, then rinsed out his mouth with holy water to "purify him." Another priest abused five sisters from the same family, including one from the age of 18 months to 12 years.
When the youngest victim of the family told her parents in 1992, a police search of the priest's home found panties, plastic containers of pubic hairs, vials of urine and sexually suggestive photographs of young girls.
The church ignored credible allegations against him for years, and the priest died awaiting trial, Pennsylvania's Attorney General Josh Shapiro said.
"The pattern was abuse, deny and cover up," Shapiro said. "As a direct consequence of the systematic cover-up by senior church officials almost every instance of child sexual abuse we found is too old to be prosecuted."
So far only two new priests are being charged with crimes that fall within the statute of limitations. One, accused of ejaculating in the mouth of a seven-year-old, pleaded guilty earlier this month, prosecutors said.
The other allegedly assaulted two boys, one of them for eight years starting from the age of eight. His alleged crimes continued until 2010.
The grand jury called for changes in the law that would scrap the statute of limitations for child sex abuse, give victims more time to file civil lawsuits and tighten legislation compelling people to report abuse they find out about.
"Despite some institutional reform, individual leaders of the church have largely escaped public accountability," the report said.
'Hid it all'
"Priests were raping little boys and girls, and the men of God who were responsible for them not only did nothing; they hid it all. For decades."
Church elders were instead promoted and predator priests allowed to remain in ministries for 10, 20 even 40 years after leaders learned of their crimes as the list of victims got longer and longer, Shapiro said.
Between 5,700 and 10,000 Catholic priests have been accused of sexual abuse in the United States, but only a few hundred have been tried, convicted, and sentenced for their crimes, according to the watchdog Bishop Accountability.
Since the abuse crisis became public in the 2000s, the US church has spent more than $3 billion in settlements, according to Bishop Accountability.
The group has documented settlements for 5,679 alleged victims of Catholic clergy -- only a third of 15,235 allegations that bishops say they have received through 2009. One estimate suggests up there were 100,000 US victims.
The Boston Globe won a Pulitzer Prize in 2003 for work by its investigative team exposing sexual abuse in the Catholic Church. That story was turned into Oscar-winning Hollywood movie, "Spotlight," starring Michael Keaton.
Faced with a growing number of cases worldwide and repeated criticism over the Church's response, Pope Francis in 2013 brought in new legislation covering child sex abuse and pornography and sentences of up to 12 years for priests.
The church in Chile has most recently been rocked by accusations of a wide-scale cover-up of child abuse during the 1980s and 1990s.
https://www.france24.com/en/20180815-usa-pennsylvania-priests-molested-over-1000-children-report-says-catholic-church
It is thought to be the single most comprehensive report to date into abuse in the US church, since The Boston Globe first exposed pedophile priests in Massachusetts in 2002.
But while Tuesday's report led to charges against two priests, one of whom has pleaded guilty, the majority of those responsible are dead and the vast majority of crimes happened too long ago to prosecute, officials said.
The two-year investigation by a grand jury into all but two Pennsylvania dioceses turned up dozens of witnesses and half a million pages of church records containing "credible allegations against over three hundred predator priests."
More than 1,000 child victims were identifiable, but the "real number" was "in the thousands," the grand jury estimated, given those children whose records were lost or who were afraid to ever come forward.
Victims were often traumatized for life, driven to drugs, alcohol and suicide, the grand jury said. The only recourse was to recommend changes to the law and expose what had happened to make sure such widespread abuse was never repeated.
One cleric raped a seven-year-old girl in hospital after she had her tonsils out, the report said. Another child drank juice, only to wake up the next morning bleeding from his rectum and unable to remember what had happened.
'Abuse, deny, cover up'
A priest forced a nine-year-old boy to give him oral sex, then rinsed out his mouth with holy water to "purify him." Another priest abused five sisters from the same family, including one from the age of 18 months to 12 years.
When the youngest victim of the family told her parents in 1992, a police search of the priest's home found panties, plastic containers of pubic hairs, vials of urine and sexually suggestive photographs of young girls.
The church ignored credible allegations against him for years, and the priest died awaiting trial, Pennsylvania's Attorney General Josh Shapiro said.
"The pattern was abuse, deny and cover up," Shapiro said. "As a direct consequence of the systematic cover-up by senior church officials almost every instance of child sexual abuse we found is too old to be prosecuted."
So far only two new priests are being charged with crimes that fall within the statute of limitations. One, accused of ejaculating in the mouth of a seven-year-old, pleaded guilty earlier this month, prosecutors said.
The other allegedly assaulted two boys, one of them for eight years starting from the age of eight. His alleged crimes continued until 2010.
The grand jury called for changes in the law that would scrap the statute of limitations for child sex abuse, give victims more time to file civil lawsuits and tighten legislation compelling people to report abuse they find out about.
"Despite some institutional reform, individual leaders of the church have largely escaped public accountability," the report said.
'Hid it all'
"Priests were raping little boys and girls, and the men of God who were responsible for them not only did nothing; they hid it all. For decades."
Church elders were instead promoted and predator priests allowed to remain in ministries for 10, 20 even 40 years after leaders learned of their crimes as the list of victims got longer and longer, Shapiro said.
Between 5,700 and 10,000 Catholic priests have been accused of sexual abuse in the United States, but only a few hundred have been tried, convicted, and sentenced for their crimes, according to the watchdog Bishop Accountability.
Since the abuse crisis became public in the 2000s, the US church has spent more than $3 billion in settlements, according to Bishop Accountability.
The group has documented settlements for 5,679 alleged victims of Catholic clergy -- only a third of 15,235 allegations that bishops say they have received through 2009. One estimate suggests up there were 100,000 US victims.
The Boston Globe won a Pulitzer Prize in 2003 for work by its investigative team exposing sexual abuse in the Catholic Church. That story was turned into Oscar-winning Hollywood movie, "Spotlight," starring Michael Keaton.
Faced with a growing number of cases worldwide and repeated criticism over the Church's response, Pope Francis in 2013 brought in new legislation covering child sex abuse and pornography and sentences of up to 12 years for priests.
The church in Chile has most recently been rocked by accusations of a wide-scale cover-up of child abuse during the 1980s and 1990s.
Father Merrin !u5oFWxmY7U replied with this 7 years ago, 3 minutes later, 3 days after the original post[^] [v] #960,345
@previous (J)
Meaningless 'report'. Where are the studies into how many children are abused by teachers, doctors, engineers, the unemployed, lawyers, police officers, accountants, Hollywood producers, the military, etc? Every profession has a few bad eggs. The Priesthood has comparatively less than any other, I'd wager.
Meaningless 'report'. Where are the studies into how many children are abused by teachers, doctors, engineers, the unemployed, lawyers, police officers, accountants, Hollywood producers, the military, etc? Every profession has a few bad eggs. The Priesthood has comparatively less than any other, I'd wager.
