Topic: Fake anon, do you love the new gilette
Svet !jzYkdX7lIw started this discussion 7 years ago #82,980
Question?Anonymous B joined in and replied with this 7 years ago, 55 minutes later[^] [v] #956,256
Kook !!rcSrAtaAC joined in and replied with this 7 years ago, 4 hours later, 5 hours after the original post[^] [v] #956,273
Why would they do this? They shit on their primary customer base
Anonymous D joined in and replied with this 7 years ago, 2 hours later, 7 hours after the original post[^] [v] #956,320
They are going hard for new customers, they want the ones that spend to feel better than everyone. If you buy Gillet you're better than a wife beater, that's something i guess.
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MR STEVEN MNUCHIN joined in and replied with this 7 years ago, 6 minutes later, 7 hours after the original post[^] [v] #956,325
I use a Philips OneBlade™
Anonymous F joined in and replied with this 7 years ago, 1 hour later, 9 hours after the original post[^] [v] #956,361
What's all this about Gillette
Anonymous G joined in and replied with this 7 years ago, 1 hour later, 10 hours after the original post[^] [v] #956,369
@previous (F)
They put out some anti-bullying ad about how men shouldn't be assholes and, predictably, assholes everywhere are butthurt and crying about it.
They put out some anti-bullying ad about how men shouldn't be assholes and, predictably, assholes everywhere are butthurt and crying about it.
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Anonymous F replied with this 7 years ago, 1 minute later, 10 hours after the original post[^] [v] #956,371
Anonymous H joined in and replied with this 7 years ago, 13 minutes later, 10 hours after the original post[^] [v] #956,378
@OP
Do you think that "be nice" and "don't sexually harass women" are bad messages?
Do you think that "be nice" and "don't sexually harass women" are bad messages?
Svet !jzYkdX7lIw (OP) replied with this 7 years ago, 15 minutes later, 11 hours after the original post[^] [v] #956,384
@previous (H)
No but I think using politics and social justice to sell a product is a bad message. I also think their product should continue to be pro male rather fault male.
I hope they lose customers
No but I think using politics and social justice to sell a product is a bad message. I also think their product should continue to be pro male rather fault male.
I hope they lose customers
Anonymous G replied with this 7 years ago, 5 minutes later, 11 hours after the original post[^] [v] #956,386
@previous (Svet !jzYkdX7lIw)
> I also think their product should continue to be pro male rather fault male.
Really, I saw it as pretty pro-male. How is "don't act like a frat boy, be an adult" faulting anyone except immature jackasses?
I'm guessing they were counting on the response. It certainly is getting them a lot of free press.
> I also think their product should continue to be pro male rather fault male.
Really, I saw it as pretty pro-male. How is "don't act like a frat boy, be an adult" faulting anyone except immature jackasses?
I'm guessing they were counting on the response. It certainly is getting them a lot of free press.
Anonymous H replied with this 7 years ago, 51 seconds later, 11 hours after the original post[^] [v] #956,387
@956,384 (Svet !jzYkdX7lIw)
If you think they're good messages, then doesn't that make them pro-male? Why are you offended by the the idea that a man can be better than the negative stereotypes?
If you think they're good messages, then doesn't that make them pro-male? Why are you offended by the the idea that a man can be better than the negative stereotypes?
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Svet !jzYkdX7lIw (OP) replied with this 7 years ago, 23 minutes later, 11 hours after the original post[^] [v] #956,396
@previous (H)
Because it implies men are those stereotypes. Most men aren't frat boys so shouldn't have these pinned on them.
Imagine a similar advert telling blacks to stop shooting each other and being bad absent fathers.
They just want to sell their overpriced razors and using a subject they really don't give a shit about. If they did they would have had a history of it so it's also dishonest
Because it implies men are those stereotypes. Most men aren't frat boys so shouldn't have these pinned on them.
Imagine a similar advert telling blacks to stop shooting each other and being bad absent fathers.
They just want to sell their overpriced razors and using a subject they really don't give a shit about. If they did they would have had a history of it so it's also dishonest
Anonymous G replied with this 7 years ago, 22 minutes later, 12 hours after the original post[^] [v] #956,403
@previous (Svet !jzYkdX7lIw)
> Because it implies men are those stereotypes.
I don't think it does at all. Do you think ads that encourage people to drink responsibly imply that everyone is a drunk? I don't understand why a message like "don't be an asshole, real men are responsible people" gets under people's skin so much.
> They just want to sell their overpriced razors and using a subject they really don't give a shit about.
Welcome to advertising. Please keep talking about their ad, it's actually what they want you do.
> Because it implies men are those stereotypes.
I don't think it does at all. Do you think ads that encourage people to drink responsibly imply that everyone is a drunk? I don't understand why a message like "don't be an asshole, real men are responsible people" gets under people's skin so much.
> They just want to sell their overpriced razors and using a subject they really don't give a shit about.
Welcome to advertising. Please keep talking about their ad, it's actually what they want you do.
Kook !!rcSrAtaAC replied with this 7 years ago, 1 hour later, 13 hours after the original post[^] [v] #956,429
@previous (G)
If Playtex released a tampon ad that shamed the sins of women (which include sex crimes!), people would be pissed.
If Playtex released a tampon ad that shamed the sins of women (which include sex crimes!), people would be pissed.
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Meta !Sober//iZs joined in and replied with this 7 years ago, 1 hour later, 14 hours after the original post[^] [v] #956,476
@previous (Kook !!rcSrAtaAC)
There's a fascinating Twitter I read you might like: https://mobile.twitter.com/WokeCapital
I've actually shaved with Bic single blade razors (the orange handle ones) for many years now because the 3/4/5 blade razors tear up my face so I've got a 10 year head start on the boycott.
There's a fascinating Twitter I read you might like: https://mobile.twitter.com/WokeCapital
I've actually shaved with Bic single blade razors (the orange handle ones) for many years now because the 3/4/5 blade razors tear up my face so I've got a 10 year head start on the boycott.
Kook !!rcSrAtaAC replied with this 7 years ago, 31 minutes later, 15 hours after the original post[^] [v] #956,481
Anonymous B replied with this 7 years ago, 24 minutes later, 15 hours after the original post[^] [v] #956,485
Sheila LaBoof joined in and replied with this 7 years ago, 33 minutes later, 16 hours after the original post[^] [v] #956,494
those fuckers lost me when they made a FIVE FUCKING BLADED RAZOR
now they make ads where dudes shave other dude's asses
now they make ads where dudes shave other dude's asses
Anonymous K joined in and replied with this 7 years ago, 3 minutes later, 16 hours after the original post[^] [v] #956,495
Sheila LaBoof replied with this 7 years ago, 2 minutes later, 16 hours after the original post[^] [v] #956,496
Anonymous K replied with this 7 years ago, 13 minutes later, 16 hours after the original post[^] [v] #956,497
@previous (Sheila LaBoof)
Good call, the midgets should still appeal to the SJW crowd they want so badly.
Good call, the midgets should still appeal to the SJW crowd they want so badly.
Anonymous L joined in and replied with this 7 years ago, 31 minutes later, 17 hours after the original post[^] [v] #956,501
is this real
that's like having 'black guy razors' and 'white guy razors'
ugh
that's like having 'black guy razors' and 'white guy razors'
ugh
Anonymous G replied with this 7 years ago, 4 minutes later, 17 hours after the original post[^] [v] #956,502
@956,429 (Kook !!rcSrAtaAC)
> If Playtex released a tampon ad that shamed the sins of women (which include sex crimes!), people would be pissed.
What the actual fuck are you even rambling about? Do think before type these things out?
> If Playtex released a tampon ad that shamed the sins of women (which include sex crimes!), people would be pissed.
What the actual fuck are you even rambling about? Do think before type these things out?
Sheila LaBoof replied with this 7 years ago, 2 minutes later, 17 hours after the original post[^] [v] #956,503
well the word of the Lord does tell us that wickedness of Eve was so egregious that all woman henceforth would have to be punished
Fake anon !ZkUt8arUCU joined in and replied with this 7 years ago, 11 minutes later, 17 hours after the original post[^] [v] #956,505
I haven't watched it but if everyone is talking about it then it's effective advertising.
Anonymous B replied with this 7 years ago, 3 hours later, 20 hours after the original post[^] [v] #956,544
I actual use a Gillete four blade razor..
It works very well..
It works very well..
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Kook !!rcSrAtaAC replied with this 7 years ago, 6 hours later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #956,573
Catherine !ttGirlsPl2 joined in and replied with this 7 years ago, 40 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #956,579
Why are men’s rights activists so offended by an advertisement that is more of an anti-bullying campaign?
Anonymous D replied with this 7 years ago, 6 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #956,585
@previous (Catherine !ttGirlsPl2)
I think most of the people aren't mad or mra, they are just sick of this kind of marketing. So blatantly dishonest.
I think most of the people aren't mad or mra, they are just sick of this kind of marketing. So blatantly dishonest.
Kook !!rcSrAtaAC replied with this 7 years ago, 6 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #956,589
Catherine !ttGirlsPl2 replied with this 7 years ago, 4 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #956,595
@previous (Kook !!rcSrAtaAC)
How should I know? Maybe? Maybe not? This politically correct wprld is starting to get very blurry.
How should I know? Maybe? Maybe not? This politically correct wprld is starting to get very blurry.
Anonymous K replied with this 7 years ago, 2 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #956,596
@956,589 (Kook !!rcSrAtaAC)
I would, bc I think objectively and don't raise people above others. I know women are just as fucked up as men.
I would, bc I think objectively and don't raise people above others. I know women are just as fucked up as men.
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Kook !!rcSrAtaAC replied with this 7 years ago, 6 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #956,598
Anonymous F replied with this 7 years ago, 1 hour later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #956,614
Anonymous O joined in and replied with this 7 years ago, 2 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #956,615
Kook !!rcSrAtaAC replied with this 7 years ago, 1 hour later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #956,631
@956,614 (F)
It would look nearly the same. Women bad mouthing each other on social media, maybe talking how cute they think underage celebrities are such as how it was with Justin Beiber, maybe women fighting over some guy outside of a club. But it would be a Tampax ad and it would be like "We could do better, ladies"
It would look nearly the same. Women bad mouthing each other on social media, maybe talking how cute they think underage celebrities are such as how it was with Justin Beiber, maybe women fighting over some guy outside of a club. But it would be a Tampax ad and it would be like "We could do better, ladies"
Anonymous F replied with this 7 years ago, 2 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #956,632
Anonymous P joined in and replied with this 7 years ago, 4 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #956,634
@956,631 (Kook !!rcSrAtaAC)
If you think the female equivalent ad would be outrageous, that’s pretty telling of how you feel about the male version.
If you think the female equivalent ad would be outrageous, that’s pretty telling of how you feel about the male version.
Ks joined in and replied with this 7 years ago, 42 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #956,640
I think it's okay to address the toxic behavior among people of any sex at any time. Anyone offended by the ad is likely part of the problem. At the end of the day it was a marketing stunt an effective one at that.
Fake anon !ZkUt8arUCU replied with this 7 years ago, 26 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #956,643
Ok yeah so I just watched it and it was so innocuous I genuinely do not understand the anger.
Sheila LaBoof replied with this 7 years ago, 1 minute later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #956,645
have you seen the new "Shape up, cunts" ad from Gillette, wow
Ks replied with this 7 years ago, 8 seconds later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #956,646
@956,643 (Fake anon !ZkUt8arUCU)
I haven't watched it, but from what I understand it encourages men to be good people. I guess that's a problem for some people?
I haven't watched it, but from what I understand it encourages men to be good people. I guess that's a problem for some people?
Fake anon !ZkUt8arUCU replied with this 7 years ago, 20 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #956,649
@previous (Ks)
It was mostly like, men behave badly/harmfully in certain ways that are easily fixable by other men stepping in instead of turning a blind eye (catcalling, physical violence, letting them misbehave because "boys will be boys", etc.). It somehow implied that if you...buy Gillette(?) you'll somehow be fixing the problem. That's where these private companies kinda fall flat.
You can make all the observations about society you want in a 30 second commercial, your main goal as a company to sell as much of your product as you possibly can, so it's all kind of just an attempt to grab market share by capitalizing on pretending to care about social injustices. Don't get me wrong, it's better than doing nothing or perpetuating shitty behavior, but it's not a particularly meaningful push to improve the world.
It was mostly like, men behave badly/harmfully in certain ways that are easily fixable by other men stepping in instead of turning a blind eye (catcalling, physical violence, letting them misbehave because "boys will be boys", etc.). It somehow implied that if you...buy Gillette(?) you'll somehow be fixing the problem. That's where these private companies kinda fall flat.
You can make all the observations about society you want in a 30 second commercial, your main goal as a company to sell as much of your product as you possibly can, so it's all kind of just an attempt to grab market share by capitalizing on pretending to care about social injustices. Don't get me wrong, it's better than doing nothing or perpetuating shitty behavior, but it's not a particularly meaningful push to improve the world.
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Svet !jzYkdX7lIw (OP) replied with this 7 years ago, 29 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #956,658
Kook !!rcSrAtaAC replied with this 7 years ago, 13 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #956,661
Kook !!rcSrAtaAC double-posted this 7 years ago, 35 seconds later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #956,662
Anonymous F replied with this 7 years ago, 1 minute later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #956,664
Kook !!rcSrAtaAC replied with this 7 years ago, 1 minute later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #956,665
Anonymous F replied with this 7 years ago, 2 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #956,666
Anonymous P replied with this 7 years ago, 33 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #956,674
@956,649 (Fake anon !ZkUt8arUCU)
We treat corporations as people in so many ways that they are practically people... shouldn’t they be allowed to hold opinions and values like any other person?
We treat corporations as people in so many ways that they are practically people... shouldn’t they be allowed to hold opinions and values like any other person?
Anonymous G replied with this 7 years ago, 15 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #956,676
@956,573 (Kook !!rcSrAtaAC)
I'm not sure what you think a hypothetical "women's version" would look like or why that matters. Aren't you always the one throwing up your hands and lamenting that the modern world has gone crazy? Now you're crying about an ad portraying a positive image of masculinity like it's some kind of affront to common decency? Do you think bullying and womanizing is an integral part of masculinity?
I'm genuinely confused how "be a better person" is a controversial statement to some people.
I'm not sure what you think a hypothetical "women's version" would look like or why that matters. Aren't you always the one throwing up your hands and lamenting that the modern world has gone crazy? Now you're crying about an ad portraying a positive image of masculinity like it's some kind of affront to common decency? Do you think bullying and womanizing is an integral part of masculinity?
I'm genuinely confused how "be a better person" is a controversial statement to some people.
Fake anon !ZkUt8arUCU replied with this 7 years ago, 37 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #956,681
@956,674 (P)
They are allowed to! It's just pretty obvious what their underlying reasoning is whenever they voice an opinion.
They are allowed to! It's just pretty obvious what their underlying reasoning is whenever they voice an opinion.
Anonymous O replied with this 7 years ago, 22 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #956,683
hahahaha i have no idea what any of this is still and I'm glad
Kook !!rcSrAtaAC replied with this 7 years ago, 4 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #956,688
@956,676 (G)
I don't think it's an affront necessarily. I think it's tone deaf and wouldn't happen regarding other groups.
I don't think it's an affront necessarily. I think it's tone deaf and wouldn't happen regarding other groups.
Anonymous G replied with this 7 years ago, 14 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #956,695
@previous (Kook !!rcSrAtaAC)
> I think it's tone deaf and wouldn't happen regarding other groups.
And? Who cares? What does that matter? Do you think we shouldn't address men's behavior and self-image if we can't also find another group to criticize?
> I think it's tone deaf and wouldn't happen regarding other groups.
And? Who cares? What does that matter? Do you think we shouldn't address men's behavior and self-image if we can't also find another group to criticize?
chill dog !!81dzJNNYL joined in and replied with this 7 years ago, 1 hour later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #956,713
i mean i havent seen it but i cant take issue if it is how you guys describe it
But its just a marketing stunt, its meaningless
Bell has a yearly advertising campaign to end the mental illness stigma but they treat their mentally ill employees like shit
But its just a marketing stunt, its meaningless
Bell has a yearly advertising campaign to end the mental illness stigma but they treat their mentally ill employees like shit
Kook !!rcSrAtaAC replied with this 7 years ago, 23 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #956,715
@956,695 (G)
I think that we only criticize certain groups. Also criticizing your customers is bad business. I'd like to find out if the people who created and ran this campaign were men or women.
I think that we only criticize certain groups. Also criticizing your customers is bad business. I'd like to find out if the people who created and ran this campaign were men or women.
Catherine !ttGirlsPl2 replied with this 7 years ago, 1 minute later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #956,717
This is some mighty fucking good trolling.
I love how men prove that they're just as much of a snowflake as any libural.
I love how men prove that they're just as much of a snowflake as any libural.
catherine replied with this 7 years ago, 1 minute later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #956,718
Fake anon !ZkUt8arUCU replied with this 7 years ago, 19 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #956,721
@956,715 (Kook !!rcSrAtaAC)
I too think no one ever says bad things about black people, latinos, Muslims, immigrants, Jews, or women.
I too think no one ever says bad things about black people, latinos, Muslims, immigrants, Jews, or women.
Kook !!rcSrAtaAC replied with this 7 years ago, 3 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #956,722
Catherine !ttGirlsPl2 replied with this 7 years ago, 12 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #956,727
Anonymous S joined in and replied with this 7 years ago, 38 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #956,738
@956,403 (G)
> > Because it implies men are those stereotypes.
> I don't think it does at all. Do you think ads that encourage people to drink responsibly imply that everyone is a drunk? I don't understand why a message like "don't be an asshole, real men are responsible people" gets under people's skin so much.
>
> > They just want to sell their overpriced razors and using a subject they really don't give a shit about.
> Welcome to advertising. Please keep talking about their ad, it's actually what they want you do.
Because you're a retard. The fact that you're a retard means you won't get most things. Sit down and shut up.
> > Because it implies men are those stereotypes.
> I don't think it does at all. Do you think ads that encourage people to drink responsibly imply that everyone is a drunk? I don't understand why a message like "don't be an asshole, real men are responsible people" gets under people's skin so much.
>
> > They just want to sell their overpriced razors and using a subject they really don't give a shit about.
> Welcome to advertising. Please keep talking about their ad, it's actually what they want you do.
Because you're a retard. The fact that you're a retard means you won't get most things. Sit down and shut up.
TC Help Desk !Uvm54ORbmo replied with this 7 years ago, 4 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #956,739
Anonymous G replied with this 7 years ago, 2 hours later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #956,808
@956,722 (Kook !!rcSrAtaAC)
> I think that we only criticize certain groups. Also criticizing your customers is bad business.
Did you feel personally targeted by ads suggesting you might feel "not so fresh" occasionally? To you feel insulted for all the people who don't impress their blind date with wintergreen fresh breath or nail the job interview because they stayed at a Holiday Inn Express last night? Advertisers constantly want people to associate their products with the good things in life. I don't think anything different is happening here.
The implication that men should stand up for people being victimized isn't anything radical. I grew up watching much more heavy-handed messaging about how real men always strive for fairness and justice and stand up for the underdog to ensure everybody gets a fair shake - that was in everything from Superman TV shows to John Wayne movies. The commercial we're discussing is pretty fucking tame in comparison. And it's corporate fucking messaging. It's designed as advertising to sell a product to people who might want it. I don't think society is going to fall apart because some guys are encouraged to be responsible and keep their hands to themselves. I'm certainly not going to be mad at Gilette for wanting to appeal to men who want to be looked up to because of those qualities.
> I think that we only criticize certain groups. Also criticizing your customers is bad business.
Did you feel personally targeted by ads suggesting you might feel "not so fresh" occasionally? To you feel insulted for all the people who don't impress their blind date with wintergreen fresh breath or nail the job interview because they stayed at a Holiday Inn Express last night? Advertisers constantly want people to associate their products with the good things in life. I don't think anything different is happening here.
The implication that men should stand up for people being victimized isn't anything radical. I grew up watching much more heavy-handed messaging about how real men always strive for fairness and justice and stand up for the underdog to ensure everybody gets a fair shake - that was in everything from Superman TV shows to John Wayne movies. The commercial we're discussing is pretty fucking tame in comparison. And it's corporate fucking messaging. It's designed as advertising to sell a product to people who might want it. I don't think society is going to fall apart because some guys are encouraged to be responsible and keep their hands to themselves. I'm certainly not going to be mad at Gilette for wanting to appeal to men who want to be looked up to because of those qualities.
Anonymous B replied with this 7 years ago, 4 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #956,810
Real men shave..
Shaving commercials should be written by...and feature real men..
Shaving commercials should be written by...and feature real men..
Anonymous B double-posted this 7 years ago, 4 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #956,813
chill dog !!81dzJNNYL replied with this 7 years ago, 4 hours later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #956,896
@previous (B)
To believe what
There are several statements in that post which you could be referring to
To believe what
There are several statements in that post which you could be referring to