Topic: Fora, what is your opinion on the gender pay gap.
Anonymous A started this discussion 7 years ago #81,303
cccuuunnttt !RwordOooFE joined in and replied with this 7 years ago, 32 seconds later[^] [v] #944,022
I think you are a retard
Anonymous C joined in and replied with this 7 years ago, 9 minutes later, 10 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #944,026
Here's a fun trick to play with whiny MRA types and YouTubeBros: Show them this image and tell them it represents average IQs for males and females. Brace yourself as they go all James Damore and talk about how even a slight difference in means reflects the clear superiority of men in technical fields. Then pretend you got the wrong image and that this is actually a graph of average salary differences between men and women in professional fields. Now sit back and watch them try to turn 180 degrees and argue that the two curves are basically the same and there is no appreciable difference.Captain Kate Carr joined in and replied with this 7 years ago, 1 hour later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #944,037
Not real
Sheila LaBoof joined in and replied with this 7 years ago, 5 hours later, 7 hours after the original post[^] [v] #944,056
@OP
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that pic is a little kid though
I don't think that kid was involved in the making of that message
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that pic is a little kid though
I don't think that kid was involved in the making of that message
Sheila LaBoof double-posted this 7 years ago, 2 minutes later, 7 hours after the original post[^] [v] #944,057
@944,026 (C)
well in any case, we have to account for, and describe, as many significant variables as we can, or else the presentation is dishonest
well in any case, we have to account for, and describe, as many significant variables as we can, or else the presentation is dishonest
Anonymous F joined in and replied with this 7 years ago, 4 hours later, 12 hours after the original post[^] [v] #944,130
@previous (Sheila LaBoof)
Any time a pay gap is "proven" the presentation is dishonest.
They always take something like 100 women and average their yearly earnings, then take 100 men and average theirs.
"LoOk aT tHiS GeNdEr pAy GaP REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!"
But men generally work more hours starting earlier and working later. So even in the same job with the same pay, a man will earn more money.
Any time a pay gap is "proven" the presentation is dishonest.
They always take something like 100 women and average their yearly earnings, then take 100 men and average theirs.
"LoOk aT tHiS GeNdEr pAy GaP REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!"
But men generally work more hours starting earlier and working later. So even in the same job with the same pay, a man will earn more money.
Big Daddy Derek™ !Uvm54ORbmo joined in and replied with this 7 years ago, 22 minutes later, 12 hours after the original post[^] [v] #944,132
@OPenis
The correct term is "gender earnings gap". Thanks.
The correct term is "gender earnings gap". Thanks.
Meta !Sober//iZs joined in and replied with this 7 years ago, 1 hour later, 14 hours after the original post[^] [v] #944,143
@944,026 (C)
> watch them try to turn 180 degrees
I don't think our hypothetical Damore Dudebro would have to backpedal at all. The answer would be "Of course! Men have higher IQ so they earn more because their professional work is more valuable (they can code more, or code better, or whatever). This neatly and consistently explains why both graphs look the same.
> watch them try to turn 180 degrees
I don't think our hypothetical Damore Dudebro would have to backpedal at all. The answer would be "Of course! Men have higher IQ so they earn more because their professional work is more valuable (they can code more, or code better, or whatever). This neatly and consistently explains why both graphs look the same.
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Anonymous I joined in and replied with this 7 years ago, 3 minutes later, 14 hours after the original post[^] [v] #944,145
If men work harder they should be paid more..
Kook !!rcSrAtaAC joined in and replied with this 7 years ago, 54 minutes later, 15 hours after the original post[^] [v] #944,155
Anonymous C replied with this 7 years ago, 4 hours later, 19 hours after the original post[^] [v] #944,272
@944,143 (Meta !Sober//iZs)
Then at least they would be acknowledging that there is a gap. It's always nice to have a logically consistent starting point.
Then at least they would be acknowledging that there is a gap. It's always nice to have a logically consistent starting point.
Anonymous F replied with this 7 years ago, 10 hours later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #944,341
@previous (C)
If you think there is a pay gap and not an earnings gap, you don't have a logically consistent starting point.
If you think there is a pay gap and not an earnings gap, you don't have a logically consistent starting point.
Sheila LaBoof replied with this 7 years ago, 1 hour later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #944,355
what is this peculiar usage of the word earnings
seems to imply deservedness
just say deserved pay
seems to imply deservedness
just say deserved pay
Anonymous K joined in and replied with this 7 years ago, 1 minute later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #944,356
Anonymous F replied with this 7 years ago, 39 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #944,364
@944,355 (Sheila LaBoof)
I know that being wilfully ignorant is your schtick, but you understand that working more hours for the same pay means you earn more, right?
I know that being wilfully ignorant is your schtick, but you understand that working more hours for the same pay means you earn more, right?
Anonymous L joined in and replied with this 7 years ago, 36 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #944,376
@previous (F)
> I know that being wilfully ignorant is your schtick, but you understand that working more hours for the same pay means you earn more, right?
that just sounds like working more
> I know that being wilfully ignorant is your schtick, but you understand that working more hours for the same pay means you earn more, right?
that just sounds like working more
Anonymous F replied with this 7 years ago, 22 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #944,383
@previous (L)
Yes that's right. The gender pay gap is alt-left nonsense that doesn't stand up to scrutiny.
Yes that's right. The gender pay gap is alt-left nonsense that doesn't stand up to scrutiny.
Sheila LaBoof replied with this 7 years ago, 5 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #944,386
Anonymous L replied with this 7 years ago, 3 hours later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #944,415
@944,383 (F)
> Yes that's right. The gender pay gap is alt-left nonsense that doesn't stand up to scrutiny.
so you're telling me that men simply work more?
> Yes that's right. The gender pay gap is alt-left nonsense that doesn't stand up to scrutiny.
so you're telling me that men simply work more?
Kook !!rcSrAtaAC replied with this 7 years ago, 36 seconds later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #944,416
@944,355 (Sheila LaBoof)
Deserved pay sounds like certain people deserve the same amount of money regardless of the hours worked
Deserved pay sounds like certain people deserve the same amount of money regardless of the hours worked
Kook !!rcSrAtaAC double-posted this 7 years ago, 47 seconds later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #944,417
@944,415 (L)
Yes they work longer hours and don't leave the workforce for things such as marriage or pregnancy
Yes they work longer hours and don't leave the workforce for things such as marriage or pregnancy
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Sheila LaBoof replied with this 7 years ago, 3 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #944,419
@944,416 (Kook !!rcSrAtaAC)
well what's the thesaurus give us for deserved
competent, condign, due, fair, just, justified, merited, right, rightful, warranted
warranted pay then
well what's the thesaurus give us for deserved
competent, condign, due, fair, just, justified, merited, right, rightful, warranted
warranted pay then
Anonymous C replied with this 7 years ago, 6 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #944,421
@944,364 (F)
> you understand that working more hours for the same pay means you earn more, right?
How does working longer hours for the same pay mean you earn more?
@944,341 (F)
I'm a little confused on your definition of earnings or why you seem hung up on the terms. Do you think that nobody has mathematically accounted for hours worked vs. take home pay?
> you understand that working more hours for the same pay means you earn more, right?
How does working longer hours for the same pay mean you earn more?
@944,341 (F)
I'm a little confused on your definition of earnings or why you seem hung up on the terms. Do you think that nobody has mathematically accounted for hours worked vs. take home pay?
Sheila LaBoof replied with this 7 years ago, 4 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #944,423
well that's the problem with very simple statements. too much is left to assumption or trying to infer what is meant. that's why there should always be accounting and description of all variables when these statements/claims are made. don't leave it up to interpretation.
Anonymous K replied with this 7 years ago, 22 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #944,428
Anonymous C replied with this 7 years ago, 13 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #944,431
@previous (K)
Yes. It would only be an issue for salaried employees. An hourly rate, by definition, is a measure of pay per time worked. It's only an issue for salaried employees if you assume it hasn't been adjusted for, which is pretty easy to do.
Yes. It would only be an issue for salaried employees. An hourly rate, by definition, is a measure of pay per time worked. It's only an issue for salaried employees if you assume it hasn't been adjusted for, which is pretty easy to do.
Anonymous F replied with this 7 years ago, 9 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #944,436
@944,421 (C)
A woman equal to a man in the workforce has no children and stays employed for their entire working life. When their pay rate is compared to a man in the same position, it's the same rate.
This doesn't fit the alt-left view of the world that gender doesn't exist and simultaneously causes a pay gap.
@944,423 (Sheila LaBoof)
> well that's the problem with very simple statements. too much is left to assumption or trying to infer what is meant. that's why there should always be accounting and description of all variables when these statements/claims are made. don't leave it up to interpretation.
This is correct.
A woman equal to a man in the workforce has no children and stays employed for their entire working life. When their pay rate is compared to a man in the same position, it's the same rate.
This doesn't fit the alt-left view of the world that gender doesn't exist and simultaneously causes a pay gap.
@944,423 (Sheila LaBoof)
> well that's the problem with very simple statements. too much is left to assumption or trying to infer what is meant. that's why there should always be accounting and description of all variables when these statements/claims are made. don't leave it up to interpretation.
This is correct.
Anonymous C replied with this 7 years ago, 8 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #944,444
@previous (F)
> A woman equal to a man in the workforce has no children and stays employed for their entire working life.
That's assuming a lot about an average man. It's also outside the scope of what income data would tell you.
> When their pay rate is compared to a man in the same position, it's the same rate.
It's not enough to assert it. You would need to support that assertion somehow.
> A woman equal to a man in the workforce has no children and stays employed for their entire working life.
That's assuming a lot about an average man. It's also outside the scope of what income data would tell you.
> When their pay rate is compared to a man in the same position, it's the same rate.
It's not enough to assert it. You would need to support that assertion somehow.
Anonymous F replied with this 7 years ago, 7 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #944,447
@previous (C)
Every study falsely claiming a gender pay gap exists has been debunked.
I don't need to prove something doesn't exist.
Every study falsely claiming a gender pay gap exists has been debunked.
I don't need to prove something doesn't exist.
Fake anon !ZkUt8arUCU joined in and replied with this 7 years ago, 4 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #944,454
@previous (F)
For what it's worth I don't think you're totally off-base but this is the laziest hand-waving "I don't have to show my work" post I've read in a while.
For what it's worth I don't think you're totally off-base but this is the laziest hand-waving "I don't have to show my work" post I've read in a while.
Anonymous C replied with this 7 years ago, 52 seconds later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #944,455
@944,447 (F)
> Every study falsely claiming a gender pay gap exists has been debunked.
It's fun to just assert things, isn't it?
> Every study falsely claiming a gender pay gap exists has been debunked.
It's fun to just assert things, isn't it?
Anonymous F replied with this 7 years ago, 4 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #944,457
@previous (C)
> > Every study falsely claiming a gender pay gap exists has been debunked.
> It's fun to just assert things, isn't it?
Assert things like a gender pay gap exists?
> > Every study falsely claiming a gender pay gap exists has been debunked.
> It's fun to just assert things, isn't it?
Assert things like a gender pay gap exists?
Anonymous F double-posted this 7 years ago, 50 seconds later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #944,458
Anonymous N joined in and replied with this 7 years ago, 56 seconds later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #944,460
Anonymous C replied with this 7 years ago, 17 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #944,471
@944,457 (F)
> Assert things like a gender pay gap exists?
I thought you were asserting it doesn't. I feel like you would need some support for what you are saying either way.
> Assert things like a gender pay gap exists?
I thought you were asserting it doesn't. I feel like you would need some support for what you are saying either way.
Anonymous F replied with this 7 years ago, 1 minute later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #944,474
Anonymous L replied with this 7 years ago, 5 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #944,477
Fake anon !ZkUt8arUCU replied with this 7 years ago, 8 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #944,487
@944,458 (F)
I know your favorite dance is the Burden of Proof Shuffle, but since you made two related specific claims "Every study falsely claiming a gender pay gap exists has been debunked." and "A woman equal to a man in the workforce has no children and stays employed for their entire working life. When their pay rate is compared to a man in the same position, it's the same rate." you should probably defend at least one of them. Or you can admit that like you read the federalist wsj and daily wire for your information and haven't actually looked at the studies themselves. You could also be lazy and do neither!
I know your favorite dance is the Burden of Proof Shuffle, but since you made two related specific claims "Every study falsely claiming a gender pay gap exists has been debunked." and "A woman equal to a man in the workforce has no children and stays employed for their entire working life. When their pay rate is compared to a man in the same position, it's the same rate." you should probably defend at least one of them. Or you can admit that like you read the federalist wsj and daily wire for your information and haven't actually looked at the studies themselves. You could also be lazy and do neither!
Anonymous O joined in and replied with this 7 years ago, 7 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #944,489
@previous (Fake anon !ZkUt8arUCU)
The burden of proof is very heavy. Not everyone can cope with it. I can almost sympathize with his attempts to pass it off to others.
@944,447 (F)
But you should try to carry it once in a while. You will become stronger for it. Try it now. Accept the burden.
The burden of proof is very heavy. Not everyone can cope with it. I can almost sympathize with his attempts to pass it off to others.
@944,447 (F)
But you should try to carry it once in a while. You will become stronger for it. Try it now. Accept the burden.
Anonymous F replied with this 7 years ago, 12 seconds later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #944,490
Anonymous F double-posted this 7 years ago, 1 minute later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #944,491
@944,489 (O)
> The burden of proof is very heavy. Not everyone can cope with it. I can almost sympathize with his attempts to pass it off to others.
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> But you should try to carry it once in a while. You will become stronger for it. Try it now. Accept the burden.
I'm not going to disprove something i don't think exists. If you believe it to be true, the burden is yours alone.
> The burden of proof is very heavy. Not everyone can cope with it. I can almost sympathize with his attempts to pass it off to others.
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> But you should try to carry it once in a while. You will become stronger for it. Try it now. Accept the burden.
I'm not going to disprove something i don't think exists. If you believe it to be true, the burden is yours alone.
Fake anon !ZkUt8arUCU replied with this 7 years ago, 1 minute later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #944,492
@944,490 (F)
Ok that was a combination of the two least intellectually honest options. Exactly what I'd expect! Thanks.
Ok that was a combination of the two least intellectually honest options. Exactly what I'd expect! Thanks.
Anonymous F replied with this 7 years ago, 1 minute later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #944,494
@previous (Fake anon !ZkUt8arUCU)
Would you like a link to his work, or can you Google that all by yourself?
Would you like a link to his work, or can you Google that all by yourself?
Fake anon !ZkUt8arUCU replied with this 7 years ago, 5 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #944,495
@previous (F)
I think if you want to convince people that you are right you should probably make an effort to support the positions you hold.
I think if you want to convince people that you are right you should probably make an effort to support the positions you hold.
Anonymous F replied with this 7 years ago, 4 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #944,496
Fake anon !ZkUt8arUCU replied with this 7 years ago, 7 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #944,498
@previous (F)
You are responsible for proving your own points. I don't know how else to explain the basics of conversation and argument to you.
You are responsible for proving your own points. I don't know how else to explain the basics of conversation and argument to you.
Meta !Sober//iZs replied with this 7 years ago, 1 hour later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #944,534
@944,272 (C)
We're upset about the gender pay gap, but why not the prison gap? 93% of Federal prison inmates are male https://www.bop.gov/about/statistics/statistics_inmate_gender.jsp Why is the criminal justice system so sexist? Men serve 9+ years in prison for every year that women serve. For every kind of crime, men are vastly over-represented in the statistics.
Is it possible that whatever makes men commit more crime (aggression, risk-taking, greed, dominance, desire to prove they're hardcore) might end up giving them the edge in terms of earnings? That men who have these traits at below criminal levels but above the female average have an advantage in the business world? I would say yes. I think if you add back in the $0 earnings of the male prison population, you'd end up with a more equal total income between the sexes, but with the male one having a lot at both extremes.
We're upset about the gender pay gap, but why not the prison gap? 93% of Federal prison inmates are male https://www.bop.gov/about/statistics/statistics_inmate_gender.jsp Why is the criminal justice system so sexist? Men serve 9+ years in prison for every year that women serve. For every kind of crime, men are vastly over-represented in the statistics.
Is it possible that whatever makes men commit more crime (aggression, risk-taking, greed, dominance, desire to prove they're hardcore) might end up giving them the edge in terms of earnings? That men who have these traits at below criminal levels but above the female average have an advantage in the business world? I would say yes. I think if you add back in the $0 earnings of the male prison population, you'd end up with a more equal total income between the sexes, but with the male one having a lot at both extremes.
Anonymous O replied with this 7 years ago, 2 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #944,536
@944,491 (F)
It isn't too heavy for you. I want you to try to lift it. It's okay. You can lift it. Just try.
It isn't too heavy for you. I want you to try to lift it. It's okay. You can lift it. Just try.
Anonymous F replied with this 7 years ago, 53 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #944,555
Anonymous F double-posted this 7 years ago, 1 minute later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #944,557
Anonymous O replied with this 7 years ago, 2 hours later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #944,597
@944,555 (F)
You seem unable to lift the burden of proof. You wiggle helplessly beneath it, impotently waving around your weak noodle-arms.
You had the chance here to show some intellectual strength, but you blew it. You could not even reach for one source.
You seem unable to lift the burden of proof. You wiggle helplessly beneath it, impotently waving around your weak noodle-arms.
You had the chance here to show some intellectual strength, but you blew it. You could not even reach for one source.
Anonymous F replied with this 7 years ago, 2 hours later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #944,608
Anonymous C replied with this 7 years ago, 44 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #944,618
@944,474 (F)
> Do you believe a gender pay gap exists?
It's not a matter of belief. You should be trying to gather evidence from the world around you rather than staking yourself to an opinion.
If you're interested in US data, you can go download CPS data and ACS data from census.gov and actually look at the numbers by year. These are the data sets that you might see cited in an article. Tools at factfinder.census.gov will give you tons of data about individual income of men and women sliced up by field, age, race, education, full-time/part-time work status, and other factors.
There really is a gap by any reasonable estimate. It's bigger or smaller depending on which age groups, fields, races, or income types you choose to look at, but there's a pretty definite gap between males and females across those factors. Just like with differences in any other area, the interesting part is talking about why that gap is present and what it means. But you can't have that discussion with someone who has staked themselves to an opinion and is too busy hand-waving away any evidence to the contrary.
> Do you believe a gender pay gap exists?
It's not a matter of belief. You should be trying to gather evidence from the world around you rather than staking yourself to an opinion.
If you're interested in US data, you can go download CPS data and ACS data from census.gov and actually look at the numbers by year. These are the data sets that you might see cited in an article. Tools at factfinder.census.gov will give you tons of data about individual income of men and women sliced up by field, age, race, education, full-time/part-time work status, and other factors.
There really is a gap by any reasonable estimate. It's bigger or smaller depending on which age groups, fields, races, or income types you choose to look at, but there's a pretty definite gap between males and females across those factors. Just like with differences in any other area, the interesting part is talking about why that gap is present and what it means. But you can't have that discussion with someone who has staked themselves to an opinion and is too busy hand-waving away any evidence to the contrary.
Anonymous F replied with this 7 years ago, 35 minutes later, 2 days after the original post[^] [v] #944,623
@previous (C)
Oh look! Median yearly earnings for men and women... Thanks, that's exactly what I've been saying.
> "LoOk aT tHiS GeNdEr pAy GaP REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!"
Oh look! Median yearly earnings for men and women... Thanks, that's exactly what I've been saying.
> "LoOk aT tHiS GeNdEr pAy GaP REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!"
Anonymous C replied with this 7 years ago, 1 hour later, 2 days after the original post[^] [v] #944,633
@previous (F)
> Thanks, that's exactly what I've been saying.
Nope. You've been crying about work hours and babies. Are you going to start complaining about median averages now?
> Thanks, that's exactly what I've been saying.
Nope. You've been crying about work hours and babies. Are you going to start complaining about median averages now?
Captain Kate Carr replied with this 7 years ago, 31 minutes later, 2 days after the original post[^] [v] #944,638
@944,487 (Fake anon !ZkUt8arUCU)
You know there's a law that says you can't pay a woman less for the same job right
You know there's a law that says you can't pay a woman less for the same job right
Fake anon !ZkUt8arUCU replied with this 7 years ago, 3 hours later, 2 days after the original post[^] [v] #944,660
Anonymous F replied with this 7 years ago, 3 hours later, 2 days after the original post[^] [v] #944,691
@944,633 (C)
Are you fucking retarded? Reread the thread and stop being so dishonest.
The median averages that you linked to are the reason why "tHe GeNdEr pAy GaP" myth exists. You have to take into account the fact that men work more hours, and don't leave and rejoin the workforce after 5 years raising kids and start from the bottom again.
There is data that men earn more per year, not that men earn more per hour!
Are you fucking retarded? Reread the thread and stop being so dishonest.
The median averages that you linked to are the reason why "tHe GeNdEr pAy GaP" myth exists. You have to take into account the fact that men work more hours, and don't leave and rejoin the workforce after 5 years raising kids and start from the bottom again.
There is data that men earn more per year, not that men earn more per hour!
Anonymous C replied with this 7 years ago, 1 hour later, 2 days after the original post[^] [v] #944,731
@previous (F)
> You have to take into account the fact that men work more hours, and don't leave and rejoin the workforce after 5 years raising kids and start from the bottom again.
These are certainly reasons a gap might exist, but just saying something over and over doesn't make it true. The gap is still there when comparing fields with hourly wages. The gap is still there when comparing full time employees. Having children can negatively impact pursuing some careers, but the gap is still there in age groups that wouldn't be having children. Please show me where the effects you mention exist and account for the gap in the data.
> You have to take into account the fact that men work more hours, and don't leave and rejoin the workforce after 5 years raising kids and start from the bottom again.
These are certainly reasons a gap might exist, but just saying something over and over doesn't make it true. The gap is still there when comparing fields with hourly wages. The gap is still there when comparing full time employees. Having children can negatively impact pursuing some careers, but the gap is still there in age groups that wouldn't be having children. Please show me where the effects you mention exist and account for the gap in the data.
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Anonymous F replied with this 7 years ago, 8 minutes later, 2 days after the original post[^] [v] #944,735
@previous (C)
Your data is median yearly earnings, and common sense explains it at a glance.
You are going to have to prove a gender pay gap exists, not give another example of an earnings gap...
Your data is median yearly earnings, and common sense explains it at a glance.
You are going to have to prove a gender pay gap exists, not give another example of an earnings gap...
Anonymous C replied with this 7 years ago, 10 minutes later, 2 days after the original post[^] [v] #944,739
@previous (F)
The gap is there in the data. You have suggested some hand-waving reasons why a gap might exist, but you have failed to provide any evidence to show that is the case.
The gap is there in the data. You have suggested some hand-waving reasons why a gap might exist, but you have failed to provide any evidence to show that is the case.
Anonymous F replied with this 7 years ago, 5 minutes later, 2 days after the original post[^] [v] #944,740
@previous (C)
So you don't have any data to back up a pay gap, only an earnings gap? Nothing at all to prove something exists? Zero evidence it exists?
So you don't have any data to back up a pay gap, only an earnings gap? Nothing at all to prove something exists? Zero evidence it exists?
Anonymous C replied with this 7 years ago, 24 minutes later, 2 days after the original post[^] [v] #944,746
Anonymous K replied with this 7 years ago, 9 minutes later, 2 days after the original post[^] [v] #944,749
@944,735 (F)
> common sense explains it at a glance.
Tried and tested methodology that has never gone wrong.
> common sense explains it at a glance.
Tried and tested methodology that has never gone wrong.
Sheila LaBoof replied with this 7 years ago, 43 minutes later, 2 days after the original post[^] [v] #944,757
Captain Kate Carr replied with this 7 years ago, 2 hours later, 2 days after the original post[^] [v] #944,780
@944,660 (Fake anon !ZkUt8arUCU)
If a women is being paid less than her male counterpart she should sue and she will win
If a women is being paid less than her male counterpart she should sue and she will win