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Topic: ATTN Indy and any other DSLR enthusiasts

Anonymous A started this discussion 7 years ago #81,017

I purchased a Nikon D3500 through Amazon today on special.

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07GW23M7T/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_yIi.BbF05EF4H

Any tips/tricks, software, must have accessories? Never owned a fancy camera before. It was regularly priced near $800 so I couldn’t resist.

Anonymous B joined in and replied with this 7 years ago, 1 hour later[^] [v] #941,603

Not at all useful for Ghost hunting.

Anonymous C joined in and replied with this 7 years ago, 21 seconds later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #941,604

Push the button to take image

Anonymous D joined in and replied with this 7 years ago, 2 minutes later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #941,606

@previous (C)
You can do that with a $50 cellphone.

Anonymous C replied with this 7 years ago, 39 seconds later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #941,608

@previous (D)

So?

Anonymous D replied with this 7 years ago, 6 minutes later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #941,613

@previous (C)
So? For one IMPORTANT FUCKING THING - Cell phone cameras have Image Stabilization!

Nikon D5300 doesn't have Image Stabilization!

Guess what else that camera does not have that cell phone cameras have.

Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 7 years ago, 15 minutes later, 2 hours after the original post[^] [v] #941,614

@previous (D)
I don’t know what that is

I just know I was out with a friend this weekend and his dslr camera pictures were way better than my iPhone 8 Plus.

Anonymous D replied with this 7 years ago, 4 minutes later, 2 hours after the original post[^] [v] #941,615

@previous (A)
Your friend is probably a good photographer. Not everyone is.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image_stabilization

With that Nikon it is easy to end up with blurry photos. With cell phone cameras, not easy to end up with a blurry image.

Anonymous E joined in and replied with this 7 years ago, 24 minutes later, 2 hours after the original post[^] [v] #941,616

Don't be a dick anonymous d

Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 7 years ago, 45 minutes later, 3 hours after the original post[^] [v] #941,621

@previous (E)
It’s syntax, he’s automatically in attack mode because he saw Indy in the title

Anonymous F joined in and replied with this 7 years ago, 1 hour later, 4 hours after the original post[^] [v] #941,633

I'm still confused why anybody is advertising cameras as DSLR like it's special.

Anonymous G joined in and replied with this 7 years ago, 27 minutes later, 5 hours after the original post[^] [v] #941,639

@previous (F)
Used to be special. You have to hold them steady. Try phoning home with one. lol

Anonymous H joined in and replied with this 7 years ago, 2 minutes later, 5 hours after the original post[^] [v] #941,641

@941,621 (A)
@941,616 (E)
he also thinks that cell phones are better than people at everything apparently

Anonymous I joined in and replied with this 7 years ago, 13 minutes later, 5 hours after the original post[^] [v] #941,643

@previous (H)
When using Tinder, the phone connects with real people in real time.

Anonymous F replied with this 7 years ago, 15 minutes later, 5 hours after the original post[^] [v] #941,651

@941,639 (G)
I'm talking about the SLR part. It was a neat trick back in the day when the light that exposed the film could be split so you could see through the viewfinder exactly the picture that was going to hit the film. With modern cameras using CCDs it's mostly a non-issue. Beyond people waving their hands around and saying "They take better pictures!" I haven't found a good explanation as to why an SLR system is better or even necessary in a digital camera.

Anonymous B replied with this 7 years ago, 15 minutes later, 6 hours after the original post[^] [v] #941,656

@previous (F)
Of course you're correct about the SLR part. The larger camera body that accommodates a wide rage of attachable lenses has value. The more expensive Nikon's even have image stabilization. Even advanced techniques that are adjustable. You don't usually see professional photographers using a cell phone except for phone calls.

Anonymous F replied with this 7 years ago, 42 minutes later, 6 hours after the original post[^] [v] #941,658

@previous (B)
I'm definitely not advocating using a cell phone for professional photography or saying that professional camera equipment is equivalent to what is found in a cell phone. That the SLR part stuck around as a selling point just always puzzled me. The part about the larger camera body being more compatible with things makes sense though.

Captain Kate Carr joined in and replied with this 7 years ago, 3 hours later, 9 hours after the original post[^] [v] #941,676

@941,613 (D)
The image stabilization happens in the lens you senile fuck

Syntax replied with this 7 years ago, 7 hours later, 17 hours after the original post[^] [v] #941,708

Externally hosted image@previous (Captain Kate Carr)
I am about to prove 2 U that U are the one that is senile
Your apology is accepted in advance and only because of your poor education.

The Lens gathers the light and directs it to WHERE? Where does that light end up?

Think about that - Rater important eh!

If by now you have learned to read more than you see on MC - Check out this link.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image_stabilization

The Real Indy !AfFi4sYFlg joined in and replied with this 7 years ago, 2 minutes later, 17 hours after the original post[^] [v] #941,710

@previous (Syntax)
The image stabilization mechanism is in the lens. This is an indisputable fact.

Syntax replied with this 7 years ago, 2 minutes later, 17 hours after the original post[^] [v] #941,712

Externally hosted image@previous (The Real Indy !AfFi4sYFlg)

Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 7 years ago, 4 minutes later, 17 hours after the original post[^] [v] #941,713

@941,708 (Syntax)
It does say on the wiki page that there is lens based IS down in the technique section.

Syntax replied with this 7 years ago, 4 minutes later, 17 hours after the original post[^] [v] #941,715

@previous (A)
Yes and if you looked you wood find Other methods like moving the Object the Light from the Lens falls on

More important is that that so called SLR you selected DOES NOT HAVE EITHER - NONE NADA - So buy a Tripod and take it everywhere you go OR Marry a cute girl and use her back when she bends over to prop the camera on so as to steady the camera body.

Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 7 years ago, 2 minutes later, 17 hours after the original post[^] [v] #941,718

@previous (Syntax)
Why do cameras make you so angry?

Anonymous K replied with this 7 years ago, 24 seconds later, 17 hours after the original post[^] [v] #941,719

@941,715 (Syntax)
It is in the fucking lens, not in the camera body, moron.

Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 7 years ago, 6 minutes later, 17 hours after the original post[^] [v] #941,721

Lens-based Edit
In Nikon and Canon's implementation, it works by using a floating lens element that is moved orthogonally to the optical axis of the lens using electromagnets.[8] Vibration is detected using two piezoelectric angular velocity sensors (often called gyroscopic sensors), one to detect horizontal movement and the other to detect vertical movement.[9] As a result, this kind of image stabilizer corrects only for pitch and yaw axis rotations,[10][11] and cannot correct for rotation around the optical axis. Some lenses have a secondary mode that counteracts vertical-only camera shake. This mode is useful when using a panning technique, and switching into this mode depends on the lens; sometimes it is done by using a switch on the lens, or it can be automatic.

Anonymous B replied with this 7 years ago, 20 seconds later, 17 hours after the original post[^] [v] #941,722

@941,719 (K)
I understand you also have failed to get even a GED
So Google this "camera with image stabilization in body"

The 1st result I get is

Nikon and Canon. Pentax, Sony and Olympus use in-body stabilization on their latest lineup of DSLRs and mirrorless cameras. Panasonic has 2 high-end models with stabilization and the rest without


This is the preferred and perfected method because there are 10,000 High end quality add on lens's many around before the invention of IS and even adapters so one can use those lens's on OTHER Brands of cameras

Captain Kate Carr replied with this 7 years ago, 55 minutes later, 18 hours after the original post[^] [v] #941,737

@941,708 (Syntax)
That's digital image stabilization lol if you have a properly sized lens you can keep the lens stable so you don't lose quality/resolution like with digital stabilization


https://www.nikonusa.com/en/learn-and-explore/a/products-and-innovation/vibration-reduction.html

(Edited 38 seconds later.)

Syntax replied with this 7 years ago, 13 minutes later, 19 hours after the original post[^] [v] #941,739

@previous (Captain Kate Carr)
Reminds me - I failed to mention one additional technique - Truly useful One holds the lens fixed and the sensor fixed - In front of the Sensor is another lens that includes all of the sensors and gizmos to move this small Correcting Lens Nikon does this in the newer super expensive large format cameras.

Odd did I miss your apology or did it somehow slip your young ill formed mind.

Captain Kate Carr replied with this 7 years ago, 1 day later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #942,112

@previous (Syntax)
Wow you are really angry today

Captain Kate Carr double-posted this 7 years ago, 39 seconds later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #942,114

@941,739 (Syntax)
Also thats the opposite of what you claimed @941,715 (Syntax)

Syntax replied with this 7 years ago, 12 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #942,126

@942,112 (Captain Kate Carr)
Angry? Damn not really - Funny how brains can work. I said to self - Remembering the Hubble Telescope and how the Mirror at launch was ground with an error and how later a Mission to install a correction in the light path to sensor turned out to be the perfect solution - So I said to self hummmmm so how come this method has failed to find use in Cameras and sure enough I found the Nikon Patents and others as well.

Hubble which is in a holding orbit for de-orbit has someone looking to make a few $$$ with a solution to repair the bum Gyros. That wood be nice cause I No of many a Satellite that could use repair of such as well. It is just so weird that many a Gyro has failed because of bad connections - Damn one can understand the problem of bearing wear and lube problems in space - Not as if a tube of KY Jelly is handy - Hubble had many many connection fails to the Gyros to make a mess of this wonderful tool

@previous (Captain Kate Carr)
WTF?

(Edited 1 minute later.)

Anonymous L joined in and replied with this 7 years ago, 48 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #942,141

@previous (Syntax)
so... ten myle satellites zoom?

Anonymous M joined in and replied with this 7 years ago, 1 hour later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #942,144

There are three things that work together or against each other, shutter speed, ISO, and f-stop. You need to balance them out to take reasonable photos.
With a fast shutter speed you need more light, a low f-stop is good but gives you a shallow depth of field so you raise the ISO so the sensor has more light sensitivity.
Taking a photo of a bird in a tree is different to taking a photo of a lake with a mountain behind it.

Many cameras have ISO correction but start low, if you don't have image stabilization and are shooting handheld then I'd suggest faster shutter until there is no blur and lower f-stop until there is enough light. You'll get the bird in the tree with the leaves behind it out of focus.
If you want to photograph a mountain you'll need a high f-stop, a slow shutter and higher ISO and that's on a tripod with a remote switch and taking the photo for a couple of seconds. Then the entire scene will be in focus if nothing moves.

Anonymous M double-posted this 7 years ago, 8 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #942,146

You can buy a cheap tripod for about $20. They are for laser levels and have the 1/4" thread you need. My Olympus camera has an app that turns my phone into a remote switch. There's probably one for Nikon

Anonymous A (OP) replied with this 7 years ago, 50 minutes later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #942,156

@942,144 (M)
@previous (M)
Thanks for being the only actual helpful reply ITT

Is there a quick guide to learn all about ISO, shutter speed etc or does it just come with time and fiddling with your camera? I have zero technical knowledge wrt photography

Anonymous M replied with this 7 years ago, 1 hour later, 1 day after the original post[^] [v] #942,176

@previous (A)
Modern cameras are pretty user friendly. Mine has a light sensor and sets the ISO higher if I'm indoors or it's cloudy. I can also just set the f-stop higher and the shutter slows accordingly. Yes I can set these things individually, and I do mess about when it's on a tripod.
When I say high f-stop I'm using a lens that goes up to 20 and I'm using like 14 or something. Your lens goes from 3 to 6 so don't worry too much about it. Low ISO is like 100-500 and if you crank it up too far you'll get grainy images.

Just Google camera settings and keep them in mind, while you work on focus and framing your photos. When you have things in frame and in focus make small adjustments and go from there. Handheld snapshots rely on fast shutter speed to stop them being blurred because you moved, so the adjustments you can make will be limited anyway.

Go take some photos and find out
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