Topic: I don't know if I deserve to fucking vote.
Catherine !ttGirlsPl2 started this discussion 7 years ago #80,178
I'm never an informed voter and whenever reading about propositions the descriptions are so confusing that it is difficult to contemplate the long-term consequences of such a vote. I rarely keep up with my local politicians and city officials. I think I was suckered into the system in 2008 just because I wanted to be a part of electing history. I'm a fucking idiot who has often times forgot to vote in elections and gets too focused on other shit like school or some online bullshit to even bother reading up on the important matters. I'm the very reason why I am starting to think votes should only be given to informed people who are qualified to make such decisions. Maybe the ancient people had it right.Fucking Prop. 6 and 10 annoy the shit out of me since one of them claims it affects homeowners which I am not since I live in an apartment complex. I know you could just leave some of these blank on the ballot, but that feels like a wasted vote and I feel obligated to at least choose a side.
I honestly felt tempted a couple of times to throw away a couple of votes by writing in "Sprite" or "Not Sure."
Voting is WAY TOO MUCH PRESSURE!!!
Cletus McGee !AfFi4sYFlg joined in and replied with this 7 years ago, 3 minutes later[^] [v] #933,438
Please vote all Democrat!!
Catherine !ttGirlsPl2 (OP) replied with this 7 years ago, 5 minutes later, 8 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #933,439
@previous (Cletus McGee !AfFi4sYFlg)
I've voted down party lines before (even though I declined to state upon registration), but when your state is one where you might have two Democrats on the ballot and no Republicans (or any third party members for that matter) then voting down party lines doesn't make much sense.
I've voted down party lines before (even though I declined to state upon registration), but when your state is one where you might have two Democrats on the ballot and no Republicans (or any third party members for that matter) then voting down party lines doesn't make much sense.
Anonymous C joined in and replied with this 7 years ago, 18 minutes later, 27 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #933,441
@Cathy
At least you care enough to care. There are people voting who don't bother to even worry about such things.
A little light searching should turn up some discussion on the ballot. Plenty of organizations publish voting guides with recommendations and arguments for positions on certain ballot issues. I would say go over a sample ballot and try to look up some of the stuff you're not sure about. (I was actually just doing this for local judges appearing on my ballot) Maybe a California LGBT organization has something to say about a particular Associate Justice's appointment to the California Supreme Court or some way of looking at a regional issue that you might not have thought of before. You don't have to take a deep dive into the political and economic history of central valley water management in order to vote up or down on Prop. 3. Even voter guides published by people you generally disagree with can be handy if you are looking for reasons not to support something.
Don't get discouraged if you're not sure about an issue. Don't get discouraged if you just don't fucking care about an issue. It's a big state with a lot of people in it and not every issue is your issue. At least go to vote about the things you do care about.
At least you care enough to care. There are people voting who don't bother to even worry about such things.
A little light searching should turn up some discussion on the ballot. Plenty of organizations publish voting guides with recommendations and arguments for positions on certain ballot issues. I would say go over a sample ballot and try to look up some of the stuff you're not sure about. (I was actually just doing this for local judges appearing on my ballot) Maybe a California LGBT organization has something to say about a particular Associate Justice's appointment to the California Supreme Court or some way of looking at a regional issue that you might not have thought of before. You don't have to take a deep dive into the political and economic history of central valley water management in order to vote up or down on Prop. 3. Even voter guides published by people you generally disagree with can be handy if you are looking for reasons not to support something.
Don't get discouraged if you're not sure about an issue. Don't get discouraged if you just don't fucking care about an issue. It's a big state with a lot of people in it and not every issue is your issue. At least go to vote about the things you do care about.
Catherine !ttGirlsPl2 (OP) replied with this 7 years ago, 8 minutes later, 35 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #933,443
@previous (C)
I already marked a few things in my sample ballot. I think Prop. 6 was some gas tax which I wanted to vote to repeal, but I have no idea if that is a yes or no vote because of how it's worded.
I already marked a few things in my sample ballot. I think Prop. 6 was some gas tax which I wanted to vote to repeal, but I have no idea if that is a yes or no vote because of how it's worded.
Catherine !ttGirlsPl2 (OP) double-posted this 7 years ago, 7 minutes later, 42 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #933,444
@933,441 (C)
Actually, not sure why it slipped my mind to look for LGBT affirming candidates. I think a chairperson of a local LGBT group up here is running for city council so I might actually have one of two votes for that category. They helped me out in the past so I might as well return the favor and send a vote their way.
Actually, not sure why it slipped my mind to look for LGBT affirming candidates. I think a chairperson of a local LGBT group up here is running for city council so I might actually have one of two votes for that category. They helped me out in the past so I might as well return the favor and send a vote their way.
Catherine !ttGirlsPl2 (OP) triple-posted this 7 years ago, 17 minutes later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #933,446
I did a quick Google search for LGBT supporting candidates and this list popped up. It appears that I would more or less have to vote Democrat (not surprising, to be honest) and I already marked most of these people in my sample ballot except for Liuentent Governor since she is running against another Democrat. Also, what the fuck? There are only two Republicans running for District 8 Representative. I don't know jack shit about Paul Cook or Tim Donnelly and the list doesn't list them has having any LGBT endorsements.
https://www.eqca.org/our-endorsements/
https://www.eqca.org/our-endorsements/
berty joined in and replied with this 7 years ago, 7 minutes later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #933,447
@933,439 (Catherine !ttGirlsPl2)
> I've voted down party lines before (even though I declined to state upon registration), but when your state is one where you might have two Democrats on the ballot and no Republicans (or any third party members for that matter) then voting down party lines doesn't make much sense.
what
> I've voted down party lines before (even though I declined to state upon registration), but when your state is one where you might have two Democrats on the ballot and no Republicans (or any third party members for that matter) then voting down party lines doesn't make much sense.
what
Catherine !ttGirlsPl2 (OP) replied with this 7 years ago, 6 minutes later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #933,450
@previous (berty)
I'm not sure if this is the same in other states, but in California, you might have a position like "United States Representative District 8" where the candidates are both Republicans (in this case Paul Cook seeking re-election and Tim Donnelly). "Lieutenant Governor" has only two Democrats campaigning for it and no Republicans. I like that this is a thing as it encourages people to look into them more, but the unfortunate truth is that I might not be one of those people who looks into them more which leads me to think if I deserve a vote.
Honestly, I think I know what I might do for now on. I think it might benefit my best interests to just vote for LGBT supporting candidates or the political party that usually supports LGBT rights (usually the Democrats it seems), because honestly, right now that seems to be the only issue that concerns me right now.
I'm not sure if this is the same in other states, but in California, you might have a position like "United States Representative District 8" where the candidates are both Republicans (in this case Paul Cook seeking re-election and Tim Donnelly). "Lieutenant Governor" has only two Democrats campaigning for it and no Republicans. I like that this is a thing as it encourages people to look into them more, but the unfortunate truth is that I might not be one of those people who looks into them more which leads me to think if I deserve a vote.
Honestly, I think I know what I might do for now on. I think it might benefit my best interests to just vote for LGBT supporting candidates or the political party that usually supports LGBT rights (usually the Democrats it seems), because honestly, right now that seems to be the only issue that concerns me right now.
Anonymous E joined in and replied with this 7 years ago, 22 minutes later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #933,453
Anonymous F joined in and replied with this 7 years ago, 36 minutes later, 2 hours after the original post[^] [v] #933,481
this topic is pissssssssssssssss
Catherine grow up
Catherine grow up
Anonymous E replied with this 7 years ago, 4 minutes later, 2 hours after the original post[^] [v] #933,487
> Catherine grow up
Anonymous C replied with this 7 years ago, 10 minutes later, 2 hours after the original post[^] [v] #933,493
@933,450 (Catherine !ttGirlsPl2)
> is that I might not be one of those people who looks into them more which leads me to think if I deserve a vote
LOL I had an old guy to tell me to vote for Donald Trump the other day. I wouldn't want to be the poll worker who gets to explain to him why Donald Trump isn't on the ballot, but I'm pretty sure you're just as qualified to have an opinion as that guy.
> is that I might not be one of those people who looks into them more which leads me to think if I deserve a vote
LOL I had an old guy to tell me to vote for Donald Trump the other day. I wouldn't want to be the poll worker who gets to explain to him why Donald Trump isn't on the ballot, but I'm pretty sure you're just as qualified to have an opinion as that guy.
Catherine !ttGirlsPl2 (OP) replied with this 7 years ago, 5 hours later, 8 hours after the original post[^] [v] #933,526
Syntax joined in and replied with this 7 years ago, 1 hour later, 10 hours after the original post[^] [v] #933,560
@previous (Catherine !ttGirlsPl2)
ODD how you have tons of time to play games YET when something important happens all around U?
Also just because someone is pro on Gender Bending/Role/Playing - Does that make them qualified to solve political problems.
@933,493 (C)
> Donald Trump isn't on the ballot,
Clearly you have not viewed him recently where he says HE IS ON THE BALLOT and he has said that over n over n over again
ODD how you have tons of time to play games YET when something important happens all around U?
Also just because someone is pro on Gender Bending/Role/Playing - Does that make them qualified to solve political problems.
@933,493 (C)
> Donald Trump isn't on the ballot,
Clearly you have not viewed him recently where he says HE IS ON THE BALLOT and he has said that over n over n over again
Anonymous H joined in and replied with this 7 years ago, 12 minutes later, 10 hours after the original post[^] [v] #933,570
Syntax replied with this 7 years ago, 4 minutes later, 10 hours after the original post[^] [v] #933,571
@previous (H)
It is a difficult decision.
Choice is simple - Yes means Gas goes back to cheaper BUT Roads remain full of pot holes and bridges may fall apart at any moment.
Poor people will be able to save a few pennies per gallon YET end up with more car repair costs because of road damage and a bridge falling on them makes for health care costs
People like me want a smoooooth ride so I will be voting to keep the gas costs high WHICH IS MY NO VOTE
I do feel bad about making it hard on the poor.
It is a difficult decision.
Choice is simple - Yes means Gas goes back to cheaper BUT Roads remain full of pot holes and bridges may fall apart at any moment.
Poor people will be able to save a few pennies per gallon YET end up with more car repair costs because of road damage and a bridge falling on them makes for health care costs
People like me want a smoooooth ride so I will be voting to keep the gas costs high WHICH IS MY NO VOTE
I do feel bad about making it hard on the poor.
Anonymous I joined in and replied with this 7 years ago, 1 minute later, 10 hours after the original post[^] [v] #933,573
Anonymous H replied with this 7 years ago, 1 minute later, 10 hours after the original post[^] [v] #933,575
@933,571 (Syntax)
I don’t buy the arguments made by pro gas tax people. California has tons of tax revenue. They can just better manage their budget instead of raising taxes.
I don’t buy the arguments made by pro gas tax people. California has tons of tax revenue. They can just better manage their budget instead of raising taxes.
Anonymous H double-posted this 7 years ago, 51 seconds later, 10 hours after the original post[^] [v] #933,576
@933,573 (I)
Depends where you are. Where me and Syntax live it is anywhere from 3.75 to 4.75 a gallon, fluctuates a lot
Depends where you are. Where me and Syntax live it is anywhere from 3.75 to 4.75 a gallon, fluctuates a lot
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Anonymous G replied with this 7 years ago, 1 minute later, 10 hours after the original post[^] [v] #933,577
berty replied with this 7 years ago, 1 minute later, 10 hours after the original post[^] [v] #933,579
@933,575 (H)
seriously
not like the potholes are getting fixed anyway
California has the shittiest roads
seriously
not like the potholes are getting fixed anyway
California has the shittiest roads
Anonymous I replied with this 7 years ago, 53 seconds later, 10 hours after the original post[^] [v] #933,580
Syntax replied with this 7 years ago, 1 minute later, 10 hours after the original post[^] [v] #933,581
@933,579 (berty)
You may not be aware of history of California roads. People on East Coast were told California roads were paved with Gold.
They came out via wagon trains and dug up all the Gold and left us with Potholes
You may not be aware of history of California roads. People on East Coast were told California roads were paved with Gold.
They came out via wagon trains and dug up all the Gold and left us with Potholes
Syntax double-posted this 7 years ago, 38 seconds later, 10 hours after the original post[^] [v] #933,582
Anonymous I replied with this 7 years ago, 1 minute later, 10 hours after the original post[^] [v] #933,584
@previous (Syntax)
In UK fuel tax has been frozen since 2011 and the price near me equates to us$9.5 per gallon
In UK fuel tax has been frozen since 2011 and the price near me equates to us$9.5 per gallon
Anonymous G replied with this 7 years ago, 5 minutes later, 10 hours after the original post[^] [v] #933,587
@previous (I)> $9.5 per gallon
I was going to say that in UK there really is not all that much to drive2 near ya but then I did this and damn ya ain't as big as California but close enough
Ah then again the prime reason to hold on2 Falklands has to do with offshore drilling rites which of course remain in dispute
Anonymous H replied with this 7 years ago, 27 minutes later, 11 hours after the original post[^] [v] #933,605
Catherine !ttGirlsPl2 (OP) replied with this 7 years ago, 2 hours later, 13 hours after the original post[^] [v] #933,730
Catherine !ttGirlsPl2 (OP) double-posted this 7 years ago, 2 minutes later, 13 hours after the original post[^] [v] #933,735
Syntax replied with this 7 years ago, 8 minutes later, 13 hours after the original post[^] [v] #933,745
@933,730 (Catherine !ttGirlsPl2)
They are ready to start on a massive improvement to the I 5 from South of me up about 20 minutes north of me with HOV n such. All funded n approved.
$6 Billion budget but that was back in 2016 so it's going to go wayyyyy up by the time it's finished.
They are ready to start on a massive improvement to the I 5 from South of me up about 20 minutes north of me with HOV n such. All funded n approved.
$6 Billion budget but that was back in 2016 so it's going to go wayyyyy up by the time it's finished.
Catherine !ttGirlsPl2 (OP) replied with this 7 years ago, 1 minute later, 13 hours after the original post[^] [v] #933,746
@previous (Syntax)
They should be improving the desert communities since those are growing and would likely provide the state with added income.
They should be improving the desert communities since those are growing and would likely provide the state with added income.
Syntax replied with this 7 years ago, 10 minutes later, 13 hours after the original post[^] [v] #933,754
@previous (Catherine !ttGirlsPl2)
Perhaps you are unaware that Water in California is becoming a scarce item. North of me they are now turning Ocean a Blue water into drinkable
Cost is $One Billion and accounts for 7% of total San Diego county water
All we need is perhaps $250 Billion for future to provide enough water for desert people
Perhaps you are unaware that Water in California is becoming a scarce item. North of me they are now turning Ocean a Blue water into drinkable
Cost is $One Billion and accounts for 7% of total San Diego county water
All we need is perhaps $250 Billion for future to provide enough water for desert people
Anonymous J joined in and replied with this 7 years ago, 55 seconds later, 13 hours after the original post[^] [v] #933,755
Cath this is important. You need to either vote Republican and help your country continue on it's amazing recovery, or not vote at all.
You currently have the best chance at being employed, for more money, than ever before.
It's not people shifting to the right. It's the Dems shifting so far left they are leaving people behind! The #walkaway movement would be good for you to look into.
You currently have the best chance at being employed, for more money, than ever before.
It's not people shifting to the right. It's the Dems shifting so far left they are leaving people behind! The #walkaway movement would be good for you to look into.