Topic: "Liberals are NPCs with no variation"...
Anonymous A started this discussion 7 years ago #79,955
...says the Russian shill bot.
Kook !!rcSrAtaAC joined in and replied with this 7 years ago, 8 minutes later[^] [v] #931,226
The NPC meme has really shook people up. I don't know why, its not even that good
Fake anon !ZkUt8arUCU joined in and replied with this 7 years ago, 5 minutes later, 14 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #931,234
@previous (Kook !!rcSrAtaAC)
I didn't even know it was a meme! I saw chalk drawings of it in Lafayette Square park in front of the white house, and didn't know what it was. Then I saw Gab use it as the default profile pic after they deleted the jew murderer's profile page. I still don't quite "get" it, but maybe that's because I'm also an NPC!
I didn't even know it was a meme! I saw chalk drawings of it in Lafayette Square park in front of the white house, and didn't know what it was. Then I saw Gab use it as the default profile pic after they deleted the jew murderer's profile page. I still don't quite "get" it, but maybe that's because I'm also an NPC!
Anonymous D joined in and replied with this 7 years ago, 3 minutes later, 18 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #931,237
@previous (Fake anon !ZkUt8arUCU)
yeah same. i don't get it/didn't know it was a meme. i don't know what memes are anymore.
yeah same. i don't get it/didn't know it was a meme. i don't know what memes are anymore.
Anonymous E joined in and replied with this 7 years ago, 6 minutes later, 24 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #931,239
If the far-right are the player characters, what does that say about the game we're in?
@931,234 (Fake anon !ZkUt8arUCU)
If you were an NPC, I am confident that you would be one with a unique voice actor and quest. The rightist PCs would note that, as NPCs go, you were a little more integral to the story.
@931,234 (Fake anon !ZkUt8arUCU)
If you were an NPC, I am confident that you would be one with a unique voice actor and quest. The rightist PCs would note that, as NPCs go, you were a little more integral to the story.
Anonymous D replied with this 7 years ago, 2 minutes later, 27 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #931,241
Anonymous F joined in and replied with this 7 years ago, 2 minutes later, 29 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #931,243
@931,234 (Fake anon !ZkUt8arUCU)
Something about depersonalizing people by thinking of them as unimportant scripted actors. It's almost like the right wing trolls got tired of being mistaken for bots and workshopped a meme to turn the idea around.
Something about depersonalizing people by thinking of them as unimportant scripted actors. It's almost like the right wing trolls got tired of being mistaken for bots and workshopped a meme to turn the idea around.
Kook !!rcSrAtaAC replied with this 7 years ago, 5 minutes later, 35 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #931,245
Kook !!rcSrAtaAC double-posted this 7 years ago, 16 seconds later, 35 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #931,246
Fake anon !ZkUt8arUCU replied with this 7 years ago, 1 minute later, 36 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #931,248
@931,239 (E)
Thanks! I hope they gave me a snazzy joke or something that the PC will remember.
@931,243 (F)
Oh, I mean maybe they correctly identified that people who identify with an ideological label tend to have similar beliefs, but I think that is less about humans being botlike and more about the fact that people who share a political ideology are...similar politically?
Thanks! I hope they gave me a snazzy joke or something that the PC will remember.
@931,243 (F)
Oh, I mean maybe they correctly identified that people who identify with an ideological label tend to have similar beliefs, but I think that is less about humans being botlike and more about the fact that people who share a political ideology are...similar politically?
Anonymous G joined in and replied with this 7 years ago, 7 minutes later, 44 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #931,249
@931,246 (Kook !!rcSrAtaAC)
https://gab.com/
They are trying to find a host - This is the site Robert Bowers spewed his Jew hate stuff on. Site rule were no limits to what you could say - including slander or anything except of course CP.
TOS allowed anything and everything no limits.
https://gab.com/
They are trying to find a host - This is the site Robert Bowers spewed his Jew hate stuff on. Site rule were no limits to what you could say - including slander or anything except of course CP.
TOS allowed anything and everything no limits.
Anonymous F replied with this 7 years ago, 1 minute later, 45 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #931,250
@931,248 (Fake anon !ZkUt8arUCU)
I think they're trying to pretend there are very fine bots on both sides, and this is an effective way sell that idea without actually making an easily refuted claim. Or at least trying to draw an equivalence so they can pretend they don't have any real critics.
Incidentally, if Minichan had voice actors who would you like to voice your role?
I think they're trying to pretend there are very fine bots on both sides, and this is an effective way sell that idea without actually making an easily refuted claim. Or at least trying to draw an equivalence so they can pretend they don't have any real critics.
Incidentally, if Minichan had voice actors who would you like to voice your role?
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Fake anon !ZkUt8arUCU replied with this 7 years ago, 1 minute later, 46 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #931,251
@931,246 (Kook !!rcSrAtaAC)
Oh, well I'd link it now, but their site is down because they've lost their host. Like all "free speech" sites with little to no moderation, it became quickly overrun by people with an ideological axe to grind (in this case neo-nazis and far right extremists). I would have thought you might have been keeping tabs on some of the crazier shit there haha; you seem fascinated by the darker corners of the internet. It'll be back up again eventually I suppose.
Oh, well I'd link it now, but their site is down because they've lost their host. Like all "free speech" sites with little to no moderation, it became quickly overrun by people with an ideological axe to grind (in this case neo-nazis and far right extremists). I would have thought you might have been keeping tabs on some of the crazier shit there haha; you seem fascinated by the darker corners of the internet. It'll be back up again eventually I suppose.
Meta !Sober//iZs joined in and replied with this 7 years ago, 1 minute later, 48 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #931,252
@931,243 (F)
Even that's not new though. How long have people been saying their outgroup is sheep/zombies/lemmings/brainwashed?
I don't get the meme. Like, I understand what it means: leftists are like the NPCs in video games who say the same few scripted lines over and over, but I can't understand why it's gotten such traction and affected people so much. I can't picture Twitter banning accounts en masse for saying "leftists are brainwashed sheep".
Even that's not new though. How long have people been saying their outgroup is sheep/zombies/lemmings/brainwashed?
I don't get the meme. Like, I understand what it means: leftists are like the NPCs in video games who say the same few scripted lines over and over, but I can't understand why it's gotten such traction and affected people so much. I can't picture Twitter banning accounts en masse for saying "leftists are brainwashed sheep".
Anonymous E replied with this 7 years ago, 2 minutes later, 50 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #931,253
@931,241 (D)
It depends on the PC. See, that's the thing with player characters: they can do many things. They are not stuck with narrow, repatative scripts like the NPCs.
It depends on the PC. See, that's the thing with player characters: they can do many things. They are not stuck with narrow, repatative scripts like the NPCs.
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Anonymous F replied with this 7 years ago, 53 seconds later, 51 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #931,254
Meta !Sober//iZs replied with this 7 years ago, 2 seconds later, 51 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #931,255
I'm actually surprised this hasn't been appropriated by the left (like Fake News was by the right). I could see edgy leftists saying Trump supporters are the real NPCs (an NPC in a MAGA cap saying FAKE NEWS!!)
Fake anon !ZkUt8arUCU replied with this 7 years ago, 26 seconds later, 51 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #931,256
Anonymous E replied with this 7 years ago, 35 seconds later, 52 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #931,257
Anonymous E double-posted this 7 years ago, 1 minute later, 53 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #931,259
@931,255 (Meta !Sober//iZs)
I have seen a picture like that before. It's a guy surrounded by robot-looking guys with MAGA caps, calling him an NPC.
I have seen a picture like that before. It's a guy surrounded by robot-looking guys with MAGA caps, calling him an NPC.
Anonymous F replied with this 7 years ago, 2 minutes later, 55 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #931,260
@931,255 (Meta !Sober//iZs)
That's already been happening for weeks. I've seen MAGA hat NPCs here and there on Twitter.
@931,256 (Fake anon !ZkUt8arUCU)
That really going to screw up the flow of reading MC threads if I try to do the voices in my head now.
That's already been happening for weeks. I've seen MAGA hat NPCs here and there on Twitter.
@931,256 (Fake anon !ZkUt8arUCU)
That really going to screw up the flow of reading MC threads if I try to do the voices in my head now.
Anonymous G replied with this 7 years ago, 45 seconds later, 56 minutes after the original post[^] [v] #931,262
@931,251 (Fake anon !ZkUt8arUCU)
At this point they will run into exactly the same problem AnT ran into. Kimmo kept running to a new site ever few months because his site kept breaking the TOS of his host. Also if say Gab could find a host that will put up with what Gab does. All hosts are resellers as sub tiers and the top tiers like AT&T or L3 have their own mean as all fuck TOS.
At this point they will run into exactly the same problem AnT ran into. Kimmo kept running to a new site ever few months because his site kept breaking the TOS of his host. Also if say Gab could find a host that will put up with what Gab does. All hosts are resellers as sub tiers and the top tiers like AT&T or L3 have their own mean as all fuck TOS.
Meta !Sober//iZs replied with this 7 years ago, 3 minutes later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #931,264
@931,254 (F)
I don't see how it's any more dehumanizing than lemmings/sheeple which I don't remember anyone ever freaking out over being called. Or is it really worse to compare someone to a computer program than a sheep? Is it that sheep are animals, alive and with the capacity to feel pain even though they're dumb and raised to be sheared and/or slaughtered while a computer program of course can't feel anything when you delete it?
I don't see how it's any more dehumanizing than lemmings/sheeple which I don't remember anyone ever freaking out over being called. Or is it really worse to compare someone to a computer program than a sheep? Is it that sheep are animals, alive and with the capacity to feel pain even though they're dumb and raised to be sheared and/or slaughtered while a computer program of course can't feel anything when you delete it?
Meta !Sober//iZs double-posted this 7 years ago, 3 minutes later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #931,265
@931,259 (E)
Good! To me it seems like it work just as well from the left.
If both sides call the other NPC it'll cancel out to zero.
Good! To me it seems like it work just as well from the left.
If both sides call the other NPC it'll cancel out to zero.
Anonymous F replied with this 7 years ago, 18 minutes later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #931,274
@931,264 (Meta !Sober//iZs)
I think the mass Twitter ban had more to do with a bunch of accounts suddenly all doing the same thing. I know some people started making new accounts just to do that. Some where actually spreading fake news stories about the midterms. It probably looked a lot like bot activity. Did Twitter release any kind of statement about it? I can't find Jack giving any kind of rationale for that publicly.
> Is it that sheep are animals, alive and with the capacity to feel pain even though they're dumb and raised to be sheared and/or slaughtered while a computer program of course can't feel anything when you delete it?
I think you might be reading too much into the metaphor here. Although, Philip K. Dick wrote an awesome book about how caring for robot sheep can help people develop empathy. Maybe the answer lies in a dialectical synthesis of bots and sheep?
I think the mass Twitter ban had more to do with a bunch of accounts suddenly all doing the same thing. I know some people started making new accounts just to do that. Some where actually spreading fake news stories about the midterms. It probably looked a lot like bot activity. Did Twitter release any kind of statement about it? I can't find Jack giving any kind of rationale for that publicly.
> Is it that sheep are animals, alive and with the capacity to feel pain even though they're dumb and raised to be sheared and/or slaughtered while a computer program of course can't feel anything when you delete it?
I think you might be reading too much into the metaphor here. Although, Philip K. Dick wrote an awesome book about how caring for robot sheep can help people develop empathy. Maybe the answer lies in a dialectical synthesis of bots and sheep?
Catherine !ttGirlsPl2 joined in and replied with this 7 years ago, 18 minutes later, 1 hour after the original post[^] [v] #931,280
What the fuck is an NPC?
I think of non-playable characters.
I think of non-playable characters.
Sr. Real Sanchez joined in and replied with this 7 years ago, 25 minutes later, 2 hours after the original post[^] [v] #931,282
Anonymous E replied with this 7 years ago, 15 minutes later, 2 hours after the original post[^] [v] #931,285
Catherine !ttGirlsPl2 replied with this 7 years ago, 16 minutes later, 2 hours after the original post[^] [v] #931,287
Anonymous E replied with this 7 years ago, 1 hour later, 4 hours after the original post[^] [v] #931,301
@previous (Catherine !ttGirlsPl2)
It does mean non-player characters. It's a right wing meme that basically calls liberals predictable and lacking free will. As Meta already pointed out, it's an old idea.
It actually came from a psychological study that said that some people don't have inner monologues in their head. Some people who weren't scientists took this to mean that some people are operating on a kind of auto-pilot and unflatteringly compared them to video game NPCs.
Of course, that's completely inaccurate. Yes not everyone thinks with an inner monologue, but research has also found that some people just use images or formless concepts or a mixture of things.
It does mean non-player characters. It's a right wing meme that basically calls liberals predictable and lacking free will. As Meta already pointed out, it's an old idea.
It actually came from a psychological study that said that some people don't have inner monologues in their head. Some people who weren't scientists took this to mean that some people are operating on a kind of auto-pilot and unflatteringly compared them to video game NPCs.
Of course, that's completely inaccurate. Yes not everyone thinks with an inner monologue, but research has also found that some people just use images or formless concepts or a mixture of things.
Anonymous K joined in and replied with this 7 years ago, 11 minutes later, 4 hours after the original post[^] [v] #931,304
@931,262 (G)
I think it's funny that the FBI/DOJ instantly takes down tiny little Gab but would never ever consider leaving twitter users high and dry in a million years.
I'm willing to bet there are more admissions to crimes posted to twitter per day than were on Gab in it's entire existence.
I think it's funny that the FBI/DOJ instantly takes down tiny little Gab but would never ever consider leaving twitter users high and dry in a million years.
I'm willing to bet there are more admissions to crimes posted to twitter per day than were on Gab in it's entire existence.
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Anonymous F replied with this 7 years ago, 12 minutes later, 4 hours after the original post[^] [v] #931,307
Anonymous K replied with this 7 years ago, 3 minutes later, 5 hours after the original post[^] [v] #931,308
Anonymous F replied with this 7 years ago, 16 minutes later, 5 hours after the original post[^] [v] #931,314
Anonymous K replied with this 7 years ago, 1 minute later, 5 hours after the original post[^] [v] #931,315
Meta !Sober//iZs replied with this 7 years ago, 12 hours later, 17 hours after the original post[^] [v] #931,412
@931,262 (G)
I'd like to see no-platforming go a few levels up. Like, Richard Spencer can't get his trash taken out from his house because Waste Management no-platformed him. Can't buy cable TV or internet because Comcast no-platformed him. That kind of thing.
TOS is really meaningless though because every single TOS has a "but also we reserve the right to do whatever we want, whenever we want, for any reason we want so fuck you lol" clause which effectively nullifies the whole thing.
I'd like to see no-platforming go a few levels up. Like, Richard Spencer can't get his trash taken out from his house because Waste Management no-platformed him. Can't buy cable TV or internet because Comcast no-platformed him. That kind of thing.
TOS is really meaningless though because every single TOS has a "but also we reserve the right to do whatever we want, whenever we want, for any reason we want so fuck you lol" clause which effectively nullifies the whole thing.
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Anonymous F replied with this 7 years ago, 42 minutes later, 18 hours after the original post[^] [v] #931,421
@931,262 (G)
> All hosts are resellers as sub tiers and the top tiers like AT&T or L3 have their own mean as all fuck TOS.
I have heard this before, but what are some examples of this happening?
Around a year ago, TDS and Stormfront just bounced around from host to host and country to country. Kimmo did the same. Are there examples of top tier providers pulling the plug via TOS?
> All hosts are resellers as sub tiers and the top tiers like AT&T or L3 have their own mean as all fuck TOS.
I have heard this before, but what are some examples of this happening?
Around a year ago, TDS and Stormfront just bounced around from host to host and country to country. Kimmo did the same. Are there examples of top tier providers pulling the plug via TOS?
Catherine !ttGirlsPl2 replied with this 7 years ago, 1 hour later, 19 hours after the original post[^] [v] #931,436
@931,301 (E)
That last sentence of your post disappoints me. I was hoping this might be the first clue to our universe being a gigantic simulation.
Since this is an alt-right meme, does this mean game publishers are no longer going to use this term due to it's more negative connotations?
That last sentence of your post disappoints me. I was hoping this might be the first clue to our universe being a gigantic simulation.
Since this is an alt-right meme, does this mean game publishers are no longer going to use this term due to it's more negative connotations?
Anonymous L joined in and replied with this 7 years ago, 30 minutes later, 20 hours after the original post[^] [v] #931,443
Anonymous E replied with this 7 years ago, 1 hour later, 21 hours after the original post[^] [v] #931,450
@931,436 (Catherine !ttGirlsPl2)
Yes. That is exactly what it means. Ment publishers have already swapped NPC for the new term "unhuman".
Yes. That is exactly what it means. Ment publishers have already swapped NPC for the new term "unhuman".
Meta !Sober//iZs replied with this 7 years ago, 46 minutes later, 22 hours after the original post[^] [v] #931,456
@931,443 (L)Would look better if the NPC's speech was presented as Windows dialog boxes (the ones where the only option is "OK").
Actually Windows 95 dialog boxes for the ＡＥＳＴＨＥＴＩＣ
Also Juanita Broderick is from the Clinton era so it fits the reference.
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Catherine !ttGirlsPl2 replied with this 7 years ago, 13 minutes later, 22 hours after the original post[^] [v] #931,457
@931,450 (E)
> unhuman
What the fuck?
This makes me want to play these devs that episode of Black Mirror with the NPCs.
> unhuman
What the fuck?
This makes me want to play these devs that episode of Black Mirror with the NPCs.